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DOCUMENTS: ASU 2021-2022 Salary Data (Faculty, Admin, Classified)

September 18, 2021 at 9:49am
New coronavirus cases in the SLV this week: 139. That is more than double (240% increase) from a few weeks ago, and our third straight week breaking 100. We've only seen two time periods where cases exceeded this: two weeks in mid-May and 4 weeks post-Thanksgiving.

As they always said on Hill Street Blues, "Let's be careful out there, folks." And as they never said, please get the vaccine.

- Jeff Elison
September 17, 2021 at 9:02am
Are we in high school? Or educated professionals? I’m perplexed on the atmosphere in this GROUP.
September 14, 2021 at 8:32pm
Interesting article about one aspect of dropping enrollments around the country:
Colleges Have a Guy Problem

"American colleges and universities now enroll roughly six women for every four men. This is the largest female-male gender gap in the history of higher education, and it’s getting wider. Last year, U.S. colleges enrolled 1.5 million fewer students than five years ago, The Wall Street Journal recently reported. Men accounted for more than 70 percent of the decline."

"If male identity is seen, by some, as being at odds with education, that’s a problem for the whole country.”  Etc.
September 14, 2021 at 4:50pm
September 14, 2021 at 10:56am - She doesn’t have time for bullshit nor does she participate in any bullshit. You’re welcome.
September 14, 2021 at 10:56am
I agree. I also am so confused. For example, 9/10 @ 7:58pm----is 69 the position or the age? And, if so, what does either one have to do with this nonsense!
September 13, 2021 at 11:05am
Dodie, could you clarify that last comment? I don’t know what that is about… thank you.
September 13, 2021 at 10:23am
Stop drinking her kool-aid! Look where listening to Deanna’s gossip about Title V got you, Dodie!
September 12, 2021 at 8:51pm
September 11 @ 937pm - Scared? Hardly. Tired? Absolutely. No I’m not scared of Dodie’s voodoo dolls, printed toilet paper or general nastiness. Do I feel like being attacked on this forum by her, not really.

I’m no Lovell fan. But I’m beginning to think that Lovell isn’t half the problem as people like Dodie Day. Does that make me a clown? Nah.

And I go back to an earlier comment about people like you who have no nothing substantive to say so you resort to name calling. That’s cool. It says far more about you, the content of your character and your ilk than it does me. And, I’m perfectly fine looking at myself in the mirror each morning—flaws and all.

Have a great week.
September 11, 2021 at 5:37pm
September 10, 2021 at 9:56pm - You are the definition of a clown. Just say you're scared.
September 10, 2021 at 9:56pm
Dodie, I may take you up on that. Because regardless of your age, you are acting line a dang 3 year old. And I have no problem telling you that personally.  See you next week!

Actually on second thought, it is completely inappropriate to have this conversation/meeting during work hours. I respect the hours the institution pays me. So perhaps after or before your hourly hours. And I would LOVE to invite Dr. Lovell.
September 10, 2021 at 7:58pm
Maybe I am immature or maybe closer to 69 and can see when people are being abused and bullied. Just giving back to CL what she has dished out to so many. I know bull when I see bull. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. You all know I am in the School of Business, 105. Have a problem with my comments? Voice them to me personally.

- Dodie Day
September 8, 2021 at 9:05pm
How college students can minimize covid risk on campus - a helpful article.

As someone pointed out, the weekly case report was removed from the COVID dashboard. I'd like to see it back, plus more: "Gerri Taylor, co-chair of the American College Health Association’s COVID-19 Task Force, explained that most colleges have put together a dashboard to monitor the number of coronavirus cases, hospitalizations and deaths, as well as vaccination rates among the students, faculty and staff."

I truly appreciate the mask and vaccine mandates at ASU. I hope we can exceed 90% vaccination: "Although there would still be breakthrough cases, once vaccination coverage exceeds 90 percent, campuses could return to “some semblance of normalcy” without other measures, such as frequent testing for the coronavirus." Another Washington Post article about the Sturgis Rally noted that an estimated 75% rate of resistance (vaccines + past infections) wasn't enough to prevent a spike in cases after the rally. So, it would be nice to know the info listed above. If the current mandates aren't sufficient to reach 90% and/or control COVID, then maybe stronger measures would be warranted.
September 8, 2021 at 5:57pm
Re: September 8 @ 1:28pm - it seems that you are just as immature as Dodie. When people like you have nothing constructive or intelligent to say “shut up” or name calling is your last resort. Nice work. You and your lot are soooo predictable.
September 8, 2021 at 1:28pm
September 7, 2021 at 6:48pm - shut up.
September 7, 2021 at 6:48pm
That has to take the award for the dumbest comment ever! I don't believe anyone wants to stoop to that level of toilet paper with someone's face printed. Honestly, despicable!
September 7, 2021 at 2:54pm
real classy
September 5, 2021 at 2:41pm
September 4, 2021 at 10:21pm - Period.
September 4, 2021 at 10:21pm
Yes, I gave Ken a "retirement" present, which was appropriate for the occasion. If you want a roll, let me know.

- Dodie Day
September 3, 2021 at 9:06pm
September 3, 2021 at 8:44pm - I did not even notice that they removed it. What the hell.
September 3, 2021 at 8:44pm
Why did administration remove the weekly case report from the COVID Dashboard page? I don't think hiding information is ever a good plan. Cases in the SLV doubled this week compared to last! We have the right to know how many of those are at ASU.
September 3, 2021 at 8:11pm
September 3, 2021 at 4:54pm - okay, and...? She has the right to say and do whatever she wants, right?

The president made peoples' lives hell, so can you really blame anyone for showing their dislike towards her? I am fairly certain Ken left because of her. Just got to respect other peoples' opinions right?
September 3, 2021 at 4:54pm
That "printed" toilet paper was Ken Marquez's retirement gift. Oh Day is SO amazing. NOT!
September 3, 2021 at 3:17pm
Dodie Day, your wonderful person had Cheryl Lovell’s face printed in toilet paper and brought it to work to show everyone. Talk about petty, childish, and downright mean.
September 3, 2021 at 1:26pm
September 3, 2021 at 6:38am - What are you talking about?
September 3, 2021 at 8:14am
Dangggggg 😂 “if” she did actually do that, you must be a crappy person 🤣
September 3, 2021 at 6:38am
@ September 2, 2021 at 4:16pm - wrong. I was not the one leaving the earlier comment. You are so full of hate you can not even keep your conversations straight. There is more than one person on this board. You keep bashing people for their opinions but expect yours to be taken. Grow up.
September 3, 2021 at 2:07am
Ms. Day is amazing? Did she print your face on toilet paper, too? 🤷🏻‍♀️
September 2, 2021 at 4:16pm
@ September 2, 2021 at 7:41am - All I said was you’re extremely petty and childish for leaving a comment like that, and I am right. Mrs. Day is an amazing individual and she’s open and honest about everything. I don’t understand why you’re hating on her so much.
September 2, 2021 at 8:20am
Dear September 1, 2021 at 10:55pm, I think we’re on the same page ✊🏽
September 2, 2021 at 7:41am
“I cannot imagine a grown ass woman or man posting petty comments anonymously. Embarrassing.”… is that not what you just did? What is the benefit of your comment? I am pointing out the hypocrisy of your statement. This forum is to bring to light the good and the bad of ASU, not to bash those trying to do just that. Your opinion is not the only one out there and for sure is not always correct. Please show a little more tolerance of others and please do not bash them simply because you do not agree with them.
September 1, 2021 at 10:55pm
September 1, 2021 at 7:39pm - I hope you’re 18 or younger because I cannot imagine a grown ass woman or man posting petty comments anonymously. Embarrassing.
September 1, 2021 at 9:12pm Brilliant! 🤣
September 1, 2021 at 7:39pm
Dear Dodie, I’d like to address a comment you left on August 25th, 2021. I must agree with you that the bashing of Deanna is just awful. As a professional and of sound judgement, not wanting to cause friction in the workplace, regardless of your attempt to cyberbully, the comment wasn’t left by Anna as hinted in your post. Please email me at to further discuss who did post the comment and about the validity of what was said. I hope your days get better, and your professional judgement improves.
September 1, 2021 at 5:45pm
I may not like everything Dodie says, but "go Dodie." I think it is great you speak your mind and sign your name to it. You have way bigger balls than most people on this site. I don’t see you as being a bully. You are entitled to your opinion and I think it is great you share it. Don’t listen to the real bullies trying to squelch your voice. Again, keep it up, Dodie. If there were more like you at ASU, I think it would be a better place.
September 1, 2021 at 5:12pm
September 1, 2021 at 1:20pm - Are you mad she is speaking facts? Because she really is speaking nothing but facts. She’s has the balls to say everything most people are afraid to say publicly.
September 1, 2021 at 1:20pm
@August 25th 7:43 pm - Hooray for Dodie Day! Not only is she the playground bully, she now asserts to be an expert in hiring regulations for Federal Programs.  Dodie for President! You can't go wrong. She knows it all.
August 31, 2021 at 7:33pm
Re: august 31 @ 10:35 - Trust? At Adams? Trust? This administration? One word: laughable!
August 31, 2021 at 10:35am
What’s with all this I hear about some required reading for ASU employees? A book about trust?
August 28, 2021 at 10:20pm
This school is falling apart. What is even sadder is this school is bringing down its students and employees too. Every comment that has been made on here is still being ignored or downplayed, the comments show what is wrong with ASU.
August 28, 2021 at 9:54pm
I want to clarify the Classified raises. We are state employees and Polis signed a bill that gave us the 3% raise. The additional raises for 13 Classified employees were possible because Classified employees fought and negotiate for several years for it. I am still asking why Lovell received a 3.2 raise?

- Dodie Day
August 27, 2021 at 4:15pm
RE: August 26, 2021 at 9:30am - Merit raises for faculty? I haven't heard anything about this. We got a COLA and a CUPA adjustment. Yes, turnover has many associated costs. Institutional knowledge, in particular, is constantly being lost at ASU. Then there are the obvious costs like hiring, training, morale.
August 26, 2021 at 7:55pm
How many Interim positions can Dr. Blake hold. $10,000 per month is a high price to pay because you have a president who continually condescends, yells, and makes valued employees leave. BoT, you are all intelligent people. Many have addressed the BoT regarding this. When will you wake up?

- Dodie Day
August 26, 2021 at 9:30am
The mass exodus continues! Ken was pushed out, Chris left with no warning, Karla leaving, others looking to leave, and several campus services leaders are ‘out of the office’ and I don’t see them returning, or have already quit. The toxic treatment of people is to blame. Domineering, micromanaging, manipulative, blaming, shaming, distrustful, hateful and lying bosses (administration) are to blame. Giving classified and faculty ways to earn merit raises and give them raises, when exempt staff are told it will be at least another year for them to have the same, is to blame. Saying this staff got a COL increase this year and celebrating it when exempt staff haven’t received COL consistently for years, is to blame. People’s lives are being ruined by this place. So much so that many many people have discovered they can’t stay and sacrifice themselves anymore for the very students we all care so much about. Worse yet, administration’s treatment has pushed out so many people that the new professionals, who will have the same treatment and little support, are being used as temporary replacements with high expectations and little mentoring or experience under their belt, and I fear for them. Absolutely devastating to see it all. No job is worth the effects of the treatment at Adams. It is clear. I hope students fight back and demand better treatment of their staff and faculty, so that they have people to rely on for the longterm instead of this consistent turnover.
August 25, 2021 at 7:43pm
The Deanna bashing is so predictable. I have had to send out ABM for Deanna. Those in Title V need to look hard at those they employ, Anna?

- Dodie Day
August 25, 2021 at 10:46am
I have been looking forward to getting back into the routine of things, but I will admit I am slightly concerned about a few things. I am not confident we are moving in the right direction with HIPs, particularly the ePortfolios. Throughout the summer, Deanna Bartee showed very little leadership or knowledge in leading HIPs. She does not listen well to others and talks over people or tries to talk them down when someone disagrees. Other times she belittles people for suggesting something that could be useful practice. She also is constantly saying problematic things to try and sound progressive and that she appreciates diversity, but really she seems to have learned a few buzz words and tries to interject them into conversation. Mostly she exposes her conservative tendencies, which students pick up on and tell others. I am not sure she is the right person to be leading HIPs especially if she does not want to listen to others who could really help her.
August 24, 2021 at 8:10pm
What is going on? Are we still talking about ASU?

- Meagan Smith
August 24, 2021 at 7:48pm
For a person who voted for Biden, you are making Trump sound super sweet. Something does not add up if you ask me...

I called out European Americans who feel like they are better than me because I am a person of color. I am mature enough to realize that every white person is not a racist but since I am being questioned about who I supposedly dislike here is a more direct answer. I highly dislike people who belittle me and make me feel insecure about the color of my skin, having a superior complex is a real thing, and in my case I have only felt like this when I have been around a racist white man/woman. I dislike racists in all form but I have never personally experienced racism from a person of color so that is why I said "white people".
August 24, 2021 at 4:33pm
@ August 24, 2021 at 4:01pm - I think you are talking to multiple people. I voted for Biden personally and I am looking back at posts and I think you are lumping multiple posters into one.
August 24, 2021 at 4:01pm
I am very much not a racist. I do not hate anyone because of the color of their skin so don’t pull that “you’re racist” stunt on me. I have every right to feel the way I do and I can tell you are a white person so you have no right to tell me how to feel. In all honesty I could tell you are an European American just like how I kind of predicted you were a Republican (which I got right because you even stated that you are more conservative then anything ). I’m sorry but there’s no way in hell the majority of my community voted for that racist piece of shit. Now if you tell me that an African American who has been “white washed” /brainwashed” voted for that man then I would honestly believe you. There is no way in hell a decent/an intellectual person would vote for him, period point blank.

Love is love but people like you love to hate? The man that you are defending has spread nothing but hate and fear so miss me with that bs.
August 24, 2021 at 3:40pm
8 In 10 Black Americans View Trump As 'A Racist,' Poll Finds. Trump increased his turnout of minority voters because more people voted in the last election than any previous election, thanks largely to expanded voting access which Trump and the GOP opposed and have claimed is the basis for Trump losing the election.  Nonetheless, the GOP overwhelming skews older, whiter, and more rural than Democrats.
August 24, 2021 at 3:29pm
@August 24, 2021 at 1:16pm - sorry, but that sound pretty racist yourself but I guess that is ok? Racism is founded in ignorance. All racism. When you call out “white people”. That is racist. Especially since you have no idea the color or gender of the individual you are “calling out”. Some facts… the main leader of the Proud Boys, Enrique Tarrio, one of the most militant trump supporters, pretty sure he is a Black Man, no? I am pretty sure Trump got more minority votes than any other republican presidential candidate in history, is that correct? You have no idea what anyone on this page’s background so your comments appear ignorant and when you bring color into it, racist. If not, they are surely hateful. Love is all we need.
August 24, 2021 at 1:16pm
Don’t ever try to belittle me. I am sick and tired of white people doing that shit. First of all look at this website, Karen: Timeline of Trump’s Coronavirus Responses

Second of all he is a fucking racist Karen, he called my people thugs and losers, he called Hispanics rapists, he calls Muslims terrorists, he is a fucking sexist/predator, and he fucking refers to the Corona Virus as the China Virus and you have the fucking nerve to doubt that he’s a racist/a horrible guy. I may be young, but I am an educated black woman and I genuinely do try to speak the truth (you can’t relate now can you), you’re living in a false reality and you’re so full of shit that you don’t even realize that crap. If you’re going to go after someone, you better make sure your information is correct.
August 24, 2021 at 12:10pm
The ignorance on this page, from both sides, is appalling. The lack of tolerance is incredible. I can not stand Trump but it was under his administration that the vaccine was developed and his “warp speed” approach seemed to be pretty darn effective. The vaccine was first deployed to the public while he was still president. Also, remember in February 2020 when trump halted flights from wuhan, he was called xenophobic. I know it is a big word, look it up. Most of You are ridiculous and the hate I see here is unbelievable. Part of what made this country great was the ability to have an opinion and discuss it with civility, now it is “I will show tolerance as long as you agree with me” This virus is not political, not sure why people make it as such. Just looking for reasons to hate each other? So sad.
August 24, 2021 at 12:52am
Hold up….

TRUMP WANTED US TO GET THE VACCINE????? HELL TO THE FREAKING NO!!! He was initially against it but since he got sick with COVID, he had no choice but to get it and since he didn’t want to make himself look like a bigger idiot(to the whole world) he “recommended” getting the vaccine to his little idiotic cult. This moron was downplaying the situation and handled the pandemic poorly and you have the nerve to defend him??? Girl bye

“ QAnon is a disproven far-right conspiracy theory alleging that a cabal of Satanic, cannibalistic pedophiles operate a global child sex trafficking ring and conspired against former President Donald Trump during his term in office. QAnon has been described as a cult.”

Like really???
August 23, 2021 at 10:02pm
The fact that you were dumb enough to believe in that stupid shit says more about you then you think. Based off of all your comments, you haven’t changed a bit.
August 23, 2021 at 10:50am
Trumpie vibes? Hardly, at least on my part. Did I fall for the whole QAnon thing for about month? Yeah, but I quickly left that junk behind and Trump had been asking us to get vaccinated since before he left office and he did it again at his rally. There’s more that could be said but why try and have a reasonable conversation with someone who resorts to calling people who disagree with them negative and ignorant? Add some more fitting words to your Lexicon of Tolerance. I’m done with this place for now.
August 22, 2021 at 8:12pm
RE: August 22, 2021 at 5:39pm - Live free and/or die. "Owning the libs" is worth dying for.
August 22, 2021 at 5:39pm
We are pairing a parasitic meme with a biological parasite.

"Organic parasites, such as viruses, live inside the body of their hosts. They multiply and spread from one host to the other, feeding off their hosts, weakening them, and sometimes even killing them [coronavirus]. As long as the hosts live long enough to pass along the parasite, it cares little about the condition of its host. In just this fashion, cultural ideas live inside the minds of humans. They multiply and spread from one host to another, occasionally weakening the hosts and sometimes killing them [belief vaccines aren't safe]." Harari

The idea that vaccines don't work or are more harmful than COVID or your "personal freedom" [T]rumps public health or whatever conspiracy theories are being spread are memes that are killing their hosts. Take for example, the politicians and pundits who have spread these hateful memes, only to die themselves. Unfortunately, these memes are killing those of us who don't embrace or spread these memes.

Nevertheless, it is clear that embracing these memes is killing more Republicans than Democrats, changing the proportions in the American population. Evolution in action? It is certainly meme-based cultural evolution and probably to some small extent biological evolution as well.
August 22, 2021 at 4:58pm
August 22, 2021 at 8:56am - I have no idea who wrote which posts in an anonymous forum about a range of topics.  I am specifically asking: 1) what "spewing socialism and Marxism" means, 2) which ASU professors are doing this, 3) in which classes, and 4) based on what evidence.  Anyone is free to clarify here; it's all unsigned posts, anyway.  Also: vaccines work.
August 22, 2021 at 11:13am
"The unvaccinated are killing people in ways they probably never imagined.

As the delta variant spreads, hospitals in Florida, Alabama and other states have been filling with covid patients, almost all of them people who chose not to get vaccinated. As daily infections break records, intensive-care unit beds are scarce or nonexistent.

But the surge has also affected non-covid patients, such as the Texas shooting victim who had to wait more than a week for surgery. Louisiana stroke victims who can’t get admitted to hospitals. And the cancer patient I recently had to turn away."

Unvaccinated covid patients are straining hospitals like mine, where I had to turn a cancer patient away
August 22, 2021 at 8:56am
To August 21, 2021 at 2:55pm you commented to me - August 21, 2021 at 7:47am and start quoting another poster. I never said anything about spewing anything. Might want to address something else since I said nothing of the sort
August 21, 2021 at 10:26pm
Some of y’all are giving me Trumpie vibes and it’s scaring me. Y’all are one of the most craziest and uneducated folks out here. Please keep your ignorance to yourself. A lot of us don’t claim all of your negative energy.
August 21, 2021 at 2:55pm
August 21, 2021 at 7:47am - What does "spewing socialism and Marxism" even mean?  To teach about these ideas?  To lecture on them?  To assign reading which chronicles or examines their implementation?  This complaint is only ever raised without any meaningful context or intellectual honesty, hence it becomes a "bugaboo" of the right-wing ideological echo chamber to suggest as much.  ASU has problems with shared governance (surveys of ASU faculty have shown this), but those problems cannot be traced back to the contents of an academic curriculum.

Like most developed countries, the USA has a mixed market economy - including publicly-funded programs and services (like state universities).  To whatever degree the USA has a regulated private sector and a taxpayer-funded public sector, it isn't going to become an authoritarian state like North Korea.  The USA already has various examples of democratic socialism, along with most other developed countries, and the Colorado state university system is among them based on its funding and organizational structure.

But this missive about ASU faculty "spewing socialism and Marxism" is a facile, vague talking point that doesn't even yield the rhetorical value it appears to provide.  So shelve the McCarthyism.
August 21, 2021 at 7:47am
@August 20, 2021 at 12:05pm - you have used the term bugaboo a couple times now so I wanted to clarify… do you not fear socialism and Marxism? I sure don’t want to be like North Korea, China or Venezuela or Cuba, do you? Those are some of the countries out there that follow those political structures. I personally don’t see anywhere where Marxism has really been tried, as he wrote about it, but Socialism is definitely out there. That I am afraid of, yes. Have you been to any of those countries? I have and let me tell you, it is not good for the people. Oh, I bet you will say Sweden. Well, Sweden is not socialist. They have some great social programs yes, and they have some very high taxes to support them. But more importantly they have a very strong capitalistic business environment to tax and pay for those great social programs. Oh, and they have a very strict immigration policy.

We may be on the right road raising business taxes and seeing what happens.
August 21, 2021 at 7:24am
Is there any truth to the claims that these places don’t have a vax mandate?

The White House
August 20, 2021 at 7:05pm
----Editor's Note: We have published ASU 2021-2022 Salary Data (Faculty, Admin, Classified).
August 20, 2021 at 12:05pm
August 20, 2021 at 11:51am - Socialism and Marxism are important civic and philosophical concepts for students to understand... as are many other governmental structures and historical schools of thought.  That's what higher education should be doing.  But this bugaboo about "spewing socialism and Marxism" is just performative politics from right-wing politicians and commentators.  It is a lazy, erroneous generalization about higher education which doesn't account for the broad range of analysis and critical thinking on campus. Fox Not News, anyone?
August 20, 2021 at 11:51am
You all complain about the dictatorship at ASU yet spew socialism and Marxism from your classrooms. Maduro Diet anyone?
August 19, 2021 at 7:53pm
I swore to myself that I wouldn't post and give her a chance. At the same time, her actions still indicate a Dictatorship and TRUST will never take place. Her play on words is astounding.

- Dodie Day
August 19, 2021 at 3:31pm
It took over 30 years to eradicate polio. This is a long haul event, COVID is here to stay. It is not going away anytime soon, vaccine or not. In fairness though, the vaccine mechanism that eradicated polio is very different than the mRNA vaccine used to fight COVID.
August 19, 2021 at 1:57pm
Some folks could benefit from understanding "simple" evolution.

Quote: "It is simple evolution really. When you eradicate the earlier strains it allows the new strains to thrive uncontested. It is the same thing as using antibiotics. You kill the weaker variants allowing the stronger variants to thrive without competition. Science. Lol"

Ya, LOL! You don't need to eradicate earlier strains. Organisms that multiply faster or resist environmental threats better will eventually outnumber other similar organisms. Delta completely took over the U.S. in just a few months, but not because we eradicated other strains. By your logic we should have "stronger variants" of smallpox and polio plaguing us, when the reality is they've been all but wiped off the face of the earth - oh yeah, by vaccines.

Another gem: "In order for it to survive it can’t keep killing its host therefore it will mutate and become less deadly but more contagious just like the common cold." Great, but with 7.8 billion of us sharing the Earth, coronavirus has a whole lot of fuel. It could easily become more deadly in the meantime. A mutation that makes it more deadly and more contagious is an absolute possibility, and it could haunt us for a long time before it loses its advantage to other strains.

The evolution of new mutations is the number one reason why I favor vaccine mandates. This part is simple: more infected people = more copies of the virus = more mutations = more bad variants, some possibly resistant to our current vaccines.

But hey, what's wrong with taking a wait-and-see approach? What's a few more million dead on top of the current 4.4 million in the world?
August 19, 2021 at 1:41pm
Someone wrote: "they haven’t even isolated the COVID pathogen(at least to my knowledge, I may be wrong) and without that it’s not even a legitimate vaccine."

WTF? Viruses ARE pathogens. SARS-CoV-2 is the virus/pathogen that can cause COVID. They had the genome sequenced 18 months ago.

Not legitimate? What makes it legitimate, Facebook posts from the uniformed? In some ways, the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are the most advanced ever developed. Their efficacy (greater than 95% at preventing serious symptoms, hospitalizations, and deaths) exceeds all expectations, as wells as the efficacy of the yearly flu vaccine.

Where do you get these baseless claims?
August 19, 2021 at 10:56am
I’ve interacted with the president one time and she seemed like a nice person but when I saw how she interacted with certain folks from those meetings she holds on campus, my perception of her completely changed. I figured that she might’ve been a sassy person by nature but no, she was just been extremely rude and condescending.
August 19, 2021 at 10:47am
Back at August 17, 2021 @ 9:59 pm - more individuals are leaving the student affairs team????? Listening to Lovell for over two hours is enough to ruin my day. It would be so nice if she could speak eloquently! Do you think she can say individuals names correctly? O and she wants us to keep our moral up!!! Really - she's the one who makes everyone mentally exhausted!!! It's difficult to be enthusiastic and optimistic when employees have been treated horribly from Human Resources to the president. President Lovell take your own advice regarding "talking about each other, how we treat each other and talk to one another". TRUST!!! BS!!!! I don't trust anyone on this campus. Goal to increase trust and increasing moral! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! The administration is not trustworthy - been burned too many times and to late to trust!

August 17, 2021 at 9:59pm @ August 17, 2021 at 10:58am - So are several managing members of the student affairs team. The whole administration is to blame for the toxic environment that is rampant. Many had hoped the new VP would add change, unfortunately he treats people the worst of them so far, Lovell hired herself there, ego over relationships. This hurts even worse because of how excited so many of us are to see a POC at the helm. Unfortunately he was indoctrinated before he even got here about how terrible the people who work here are and how much fixing there is to do. I agree, change needs to happen. Abuse of power and people to do so, does not. For the sake of the students, I hope this changes sooner than later. Serious damage control is needed BOT.
August 19, 2021 at 10:34am
They moved faculty to 80 % but what about all the people that are still below 72% of their CUPA? How can the institution not get everyone to the minimum of 72% first? No wonder why good people are leaving.
August 19, 2021 at 8:49am
RE: August 18, 2021 at 10:35pm - I agree, but it's much more complex (and depressing) than just coordination these days. Misinformation is killing thousands of Americans. How do bad actors from Russia, China, Iran, etc. mess with the U.S.? Using social media to undermine elections, create divisiveness, and spread misinformation. It's so easy to create fake social media posts promoting conspiracy theories. Claim we are being injected with microchips and you can cause endless fights over vaccines and kill thousands.

Americans' willingness to embrace conspiracy theories (and laziness or ignorance when it comes to seeking reliable info) and then spread them, killing other Americans, is a national tragedy. If people would think and do some research before sharing, it might prevent them from acting like pawns of foreign powers that rejoice over American polarization and deaths.
August 19, 2021 at 8:40am
Global death toll from smallpox during the 20th century was approximately 300 million.

During 1951-1954, an average of 16,316 paralytic polio cases and 1879 deaths from polio were reported each year. Polio incidence declined sharply following the introduction of vaccine to less than 1000 cases in 1962 and remained below 100 cases after that year. In 1994, every dollar spent to administer oral poliovirus vaccine saved $3.40 in direct medical costs and $2.74 in indirect societal costs. "Thanks to the success of vaccination, the last natural outbreak of smallpox in the United States occurred in 1949. In 1980, the World Health Assembly declared smallpox eradicated (eliminated), and no cases of naturally occurring smallpox have happened since." "Five out of six World Health Organization regions are now certified wild poliovirus free—the African Region, the Americas, Europe, South East Asia and the Western Pacific. Without our polio eradication efforts, more than 18 million people who are currently healthy would have been paralyzed by the virus."

How were these "miracles" achieved? Science! Vaccines. Knocking on doors. Traveling to remote villages. Caring about fellow human beings.
August 19, 2021 at 7:05am
@August 18, 2021 at 10:35pm - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, stop lying to yourself. This virus is not a intelligent entity. It is not “coordinating” anything. It is simple evolution really. When you eradicate the earlier strains it allows the new strains to thrive uncontested. It is the same thing as using antibiotics. You kill the weaker variants allowing the stronger variants to thrive without competition. Science. Lol
August 19, 2021 at 5:23am
Simple virology tells us a virus is made to survive. In order for it to survive it can’t keep killing its host therefore it will mutate and become less deadly but more contagious just like the common cold. Also, they haven’t even isolated the COVID pathogen(at least to my knowledge, I may be wrong) and without that it’s not even a legitimate vaccine.

Yes, I am more conservative in my thinking but I haven’t completely rules out the vaccine as an option. I just want a little more proof it’s safe. I’m willing and have looked at both sides since it’s began so whatever opinion you have of me doesn’t matter at all. Think of me what you will, I believe you made a conscious decision and I respect that. I’ll continue my research which won’t be found in conversations like this.
August 19, 2021 at 4:13am
I honestly don’t know who you are but the one thing I know is you can’t force anyone to see/understand anything they’re refusing to see/understand. I genuinely hope you open your eyes because this pandemic has severely crushed our society and it can only go away if WE all are in this thing together. I’m signing off for a while
August 18, 2021 at 10:35pm
The coronavirus thrives and mutates on the fractured, hyper-individualistic, self-centered mentality of "just do you."  The only way this pandemic will actually end is when humanity coordinates its defense more effectively than the virus has coordinated its invasion.
August 18, 2021 at 9:47pm
@ August 18, 2021 at 8:43pm - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, stop lying to yourself.
August 18, 2021 at 8:43pm
Actually I sound like an individual who makes their own choices. Do what you want when it comes to you but I won’t resort to calling you a wannabe. Do you. Just do you.
August 18, 2021 at 6:15pm
That person that is down playing COVID needs to do some serious soul searching. This whole "situation" basically describes how ASU is as a whole.
August 18, 2021 at 5:38pm
Dear Lauren (or Boebert wannabe),

Incentives? How about not going to jail (explosives) or paying fines for traffic violations? Or being kicked out of college for violations? Those are incentives. Going door to door? Yes, as a public service to make it easy for folks who may not have time off from work or a chance to get away from their kids to get the vaccine, or don't know where to go or don't have transportation. Drop your conspiracy theories. You sound like Marjorie Taylor Greene, suggesting people welcome public health volunteers by flexing their "second amendment rights."

Ironically, many health insurance companies offer incentives to not to drink or smoke: lower rates and other perks.
August 18, 2021 at 3:50pm
Has the government or an institution ever given a person an incentive like donuts or gift cards or planned to go door to door to tell you not to smoke, drink, have explosives, etc.?
August 18, 2021 at 1:16pm
August 18, 2021 at 12:18pm - Also I’m a broke college student who has ambitions not a dictator 😐
August 18, 2021 at 12:32pm
THANK YOU!!!! @August 18, 2021 at 12:27pm
August 18, 2021 at 12:27pm
Interesting.  So are requirements not to smoke in/around campus buildings, prohibitions on drugs and alcohol use in classroom settings, prohibitions on weapons and explosives in/around residence halls, requirements to wear a shirt and shoes in campus buildings, imposition of library due dates and fines, anti-discrimination policies, computer networking policies, and required hand-washing for food preparation workers... signs of a dictatorship at ASU, also?
August 18, 2021 at 12:18pm
What a dictator says… “ ASU better make those things mandatory and they better enforce harsh consequences for folks who refuse to comply. End of story.”
August 17, 2021 at 10:46pm
Selected Adverse Events Reported after COVID-19 Vaccination
August 17, 2021 at 10:21pm
From the European Journal of Neurology: Meningitis due to cerebrospinal fluid leak after nasal swab testing for COVID‐19, Francisco Jose Alberola‐Amores, Enrique Valdeolivas‐Urbelz, [...], and Jorge Alom‐Poveda
August 17, 2021 at 9:59pm
@ August 17, 2021 at 10:58am - So are several managing members of the student affairs team. The whole administration is to blame for the toxic environment that is rampant. Many had hoped the new VP would add change, unfortunately he treats people the worst of them so far, Lovell hired herself there, ego over relationships. This hurts even worse because of how excited so many of us are to see a POC at the helm. Unfortunately he was indoctrinated before he even got here about how terrible the people who work here are and how much fixing there is to do. I agree, change needs to happen. Abuse of power and people to do so, does not. For the sake of the students, I hope this changes sooner than later. Serious damage control is needed BOT.
August 17, 2021 at 9:25pm
You can do whatever you want, but if you’re at risk, you better stay the hell away from me. Unlike those people, I truly do value my life/others lives. It’s unfair that my family and I may have to be severely ill for days at time because someone is being stupid and refusing to comply. The fact that this all could’ve been over is what’s upsetting. ASU better make those things mandatory and they better enforce hash consequences for folks who refuse to comply. End of story.
August 17, 2021 at 8:05pm
I know there are a lot of issues. The mask/no mask, the vaccine/no vaccine. I still believe in freedom of choice. I made a choice to be vaccinated. I have family members who have chosen not to. Freedom of choice, we all have that freedom, businesses and individuals. If a business decides that employees need to be vaccinated so be it. Either comply or move on. Lots of jobs out there at this time.

- Dodie Day
August 17, 2021 at 2:18pm
Okay karen
August 17, 2021 at 1:50pm
You don’t have to read everything I wrote in order to understand what I am saying? Wow. Not even sure how to respond to that. Thank you for assuming. Telling someone to grow up as your argument seems immature in itself. You are entitled to your opinion and I to mine. That is the difference here. I respect that others have opinions, it seems you are not mature enough to do the same. I won’t comment again because you are like talking to a brick wall, not the other way around.
August 17, 2021 at 1:19pm
August 17, 2021 at 11:55am - You need to look back and see what you wrote. Sis you’re making the vaccine and mask mandate look like it’s unnecessary when in reality it’s crucial. I do not have to read everything you wrote in order to comprehend what you’re trying to say. Like I said before, grow up and do better.
August 17, 2021 at 11:55am
August 17, 2021 at 10:56am- you obviously are not reading what is being written. Never said masks shouldn’t be worn. Also, never said people should not get vaccinated, just said it should not be forced. I guess ignorance is bliss and it gives you someone to attack. So much for a civil conversation but I guess you being progressive, you must always be right and you will attack anyone who disagrees. Yes, people like me must be the problem, even though I am a registered Democrat and have never voted for a republican since I was 18 years old. But because I don’t agree with you, I must be a republican.
August 17, 2021 at 11:32am
Karla for president is leaving?! Wait, wait wait for it!
August 17, 2021 at 10:58am
@August 12, 2021 at 1:21pm - So much so that Karla is jumping ship from the good ol’ SS Dumpster Fire.
August 17, 2021 at 10:56am
August 17, 2021 at 6:16am - Then why the hell are you saying it’s okay for people to not get vaccinated and wear a mask? Make it make sense. You want to know why I referenced Republicans in my previous post? It’s because you sound like every uneducated Trump supporter, seriously, like down to the tea. I even did a whole project dedicated to folks like you so I see your perspective and it’s a really shitty/selfish/ignorant thing y’all are doing and I don’t you think you realize that what you’re saying is causing our society to go into shit.

This pandemic would’ve been over if people got vaccinated and were wearing masks but noooo “this goes against our constitution” “COVID is like very other virus” “ the vaccines don’t really work” etc. As I also said, you’re a hypocrite. You’re masked up but you’re also against it??? Like you willingly wear a mask but you preach against it. Likeeeeeeee…. Stop spreading misinformation and do the right thing. Get vaccinated and wear a mask. You completely missed my point but I still stand with what I said. God knows if people like you were in charge, we all would’ve been dead.
August 17, 2021 at 8:27am
RE: August 16, 2021 at 5:17pm - Your "Kool-Aid anyone?" comment takes the grand prize for dumbest thing ever written on Watching Adams. You are comparing the government trying to get people to use life-saving vaccines to a mass murder-suicide of over 900 people by a religious freak. If you don't want to get the vaccine, don't. Maybe present some reasons based on facts, but don't compare public health measures and medical breakthroughs to murder and suicide via cyanide. If anyone actually listened to your nonsense, you'd be approaching Jim Jones on moral footing.
August 17, 2021 at 6:16am
August 16, 2021 at 10:10pm - you obviously are heading blindly into this argument anyway. If you had read the post says that I was vaccinated and not an anti-vaxer. I am also not a republican and I wear a mask anytime I am indoors. Even being vaccinated. I am not, however, willing to force anyone into being vaccinated, especially children.
August 16, 2021 at 10:10pm
@ August 16, 2021 at 7:47am - Really. Be better.

I'm sorry but if you’re still an anti-vaxxer, you need some serious help. How many lives do we need to lose in order for y’all to wear a mask? Millions have died worldwide and y’all can’t wear a face covering to protect YOURSELF and others? It's literally not that hard to be a decent human being, grow the hell up and wear a mask especially if you're not vaccinated. I'm tired of all this nonsense.

Also who the hell said your freedom was being taken away? You’re just playing with your life, at the end of the day, when you're severely ill with COVID and are on the verge of death, you will understand just how ridiculous you sound. Republicans tend to belittle COVID and its impacts (in my opinion) and for people that claim they are pro-life, your actions during this pandemic speak otherwise. #bighypocrites  Anyways, I'm done arguing with folks like you, talking to y'all is like talking to a wall.
August 16, 2021 at 5:17pm
Kool-Aid anyone?
August 16, 2021 at 3:46pm
Thanks for the straw-person argument: "heart disease, cancer, accidents, obesity." First, they are not plagues except maybe metaphorically. Second, billions have been spent to reduce death by all of these. Third, solutions sometimes include new laws: seatbelt laws, airbags, toxic chemicals. Fourth, none of them can be prevented as easily as COVID (meaning vaccines).

Vaccines slow transmission for at least two reasons. The vaccinated are less likely to get COVID, and thus less likely to have symptoms that lead to spread (making hosts sneeze, cough, and have snotty noses - great evolutionary adaptations). Second, viral loads tend to be lower and shorter lived.

As was pointed out in two recent posts and the "mere" opinion piece: U.S. law is backing vaccine mandates.
August 16, 2021 at 10:17am
Except that "heart disease, cancer, accidents, obesity and other diseases" are still also happening, but it is the COVID-19 pandemic which is overwhelming healthcare resources all across the country and the delta variant is hospitalizing younger, healthier populations. COVID-19 hospitalizations are almost exclusively from unvaccinated individuals.

A university campus is not a "general population." University students, faculty, and staff are often in enclosed areas for prolonged periods of time: classrooms, auditoriums, offices, dorms, training facilities, locker rooms, etc. In order to promote the health and safety of the campus community as a whole, a university has an interest in preventing the spread and severe infections of COVID-19; this takes precedence over an individual campus member's interest in determining whether or not to be vaccinated (Klaassen v. Trustees of Indiana University, 7th Circuit case, 2021).

ASU should mandate vaccinations for the entire campus (providing for documented health exemptions) and those who do not wish to be vaccinated do not have to enroll or work at ASU.
August 16, 2021 at 7:47am
To August 15, 2021 at 9:11pm:

Deadliest plague of the century? Sources please… the article cited is an opinion piece with little in the way of sources. I believe we have lost way more people to heart disease, cancer, accidents, obesity and other diseases over the last century, even the last year. We loose around 600,000 people a year to cancer. Wait, we have an extreme issue with obesity in this country. In order to protect the people we are going to insist every fat person has to get their stomach stapled. That would save way more people considering there are millions of obese people in this country. COVID is a big deal but it is not the deadliest plague of the century. Vaccination should be a choice and not a mandate especially now with delta and the fact, yes fact, that people who are vaccinated are still able to spread it. So, in short, getting vaccinated protects the individual but does little to protect the rest of society. If a vaccinated person can still spread the disease then vaccination does little to protect anyone other then themself. The opinion article you cited talks about Washington forcing troops to get smallpox vaccines. The key to this point is troops. Troops are held to different standards than the general population and troops do not have the same rights as the rest of the population. I have chosen to be vaccinated but that was my choice. Land of the free, except when the government tells you that you have to put a foreign substance into your bodies. I don’t think that is what they said. Oh, has anyone noticed the wealth that companies like Moderna have gained during this “plague” ? Again, let me state, I believe that vaccination is a good thing and I and the people around me are vaccinated and for that I am proud and grateful. That was all of our choice. Freedom of choice is my argument here, not that vaccines are bad.
August 15, 2021 at 9:11pm
Vaccine mandate? Yes, please!

“I believe it makes sense to get vaccinated,” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) tweeted, “but everyone must make their own choice.” Sounds nice, but we don’t let everyone make their own choice about whether to smoke indoors, wear a seat belt, drive drunk, drive at 100 mph or myriad other public health matters. Why should covid-19 — the deadliest plague in a century — be any different?
August 14, 2021 at 8:23pm
Given that Supreme Court Justice Barrett declined a request to block the vaccine mandate at I.U., ASU and every other institution of higher ed in the U.S. have a green light to mandate vaccines. Please do it now, before the semester starts.
August 12, 2021 at 8:30pm
The E-Team is staying at one of the highest priced venues in Taos. Consider lodging, meals, and meeting space for X number of days... get the picture?
August 12, 2021 at 7:06pm
Travel, no travel, but E-team can travel out of state. 1. Why is anyone traveling? 2. Revenue Sharing dollars have been stolen. 3. The turn over is increasing day by day. 4. E-team left, all of them.  Who was given responsibility to act on the universities behalf? NO ONE. There was a need for someone to be in charge.

- Dodie Day
August 12, 2021 at 4:17pm
When Lovell first came to ASU, I thought she was awesome. She came across as genuine and caring. Apparently that is an outward appearance only. When I needed some help with my program, she gave me zero support and I was hung out to dry - despite having done nothing but give everything I had to ASU. She could have reached out to me with just a little bit of support and I would have been so appreciative. But nothing. Absolutely nothing. It was a kick in the stomach. I wish those at ASU well. It’s such a great place. It deserves better leadership for sure.
August 12, 2021 at 1:21pm
For a school that’s suffering tremendously the President isn’t really doing much about it. A lot of people are quitting and students are transferring, it seems to me that ASU is coming to an end.
August 11, 2021 at 3:51pm
@ August 8, 2021 at 1:51pm - Then you have supervisors say their staff doesn’t deserve a 4-day weekend after about 1.5 years of being on the frontlines of a pandemic, shorthanded among other things yet they can leave early every Friday and miss at least one day a week on top of that.
August 10, 2021 at 12:32pm
With travel being restricted, is the e-team really on a retreat in Taos this week?
August 8, 2021 at 1:51pm
Classes beginning and so is the continuation of an exit of many, many wonderful professionals. Some of them have given loyal years of service, put up with so much over the years, been some of the most engaged advocates for our students, and now is so much worse than ever for the treatment of staff and they’re leaving because the environment is now too unsafe to stay. I hope the board takes note.
August 5, 2021 at 6:15am
Is the most recent CUPA data available?
August 3, 2021 at 8:42pm
I know everyone believes there is shared governance at Adams State, but ultimately the president has to answer to bot, lower case was intentional. E-team is only an advisory team. They have no power. Adams is a DICTATORSHIP.

- Dodie Day
July 31, 2021 at 4:31pm
If ASU doesn’t make the vaccine and masks mandatory, then there’s a problem. We’ll be shutting down two weeks after the school year starts.
July 31, 2021 at 9:20am
RE: the two 7/30 posts, the latest Delta surge is looking worse by the day, with breaking news about its transmissibility even among vaccinated people. It sounds like everyone should go back to wearing a mask and social distancing. I'm afraid this will affect colleges and students all across the U.S. I don't see ASU pulling off the full capacity plan.
July 30, 2021 at 9:14pm
Now that the DOJ ruled vaccine mandates legal, ASU doesn't need to wait for final FDA approval. Please switch to a mandate ASAP.

DOJ Memo: The Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act Does Not Prohibit Entities from Requiring Vaccines Subject to an EUA
July 30, 2021 at 7:49pm
Thank you, Governor Polis. Masks are mandated for all unvaccinated state employees.

- Dodie Day
July 29, 2021 at 7:39am
With payday tomorrow… Is it true that some exempt employees got increases but others did not?
July 28, 2021 at 7:49pm
I believe that ASU faculty, staff, exempt, and classified employees need to unite and make our voice heard.

- Dodie Day
July 27, 2021 at 10:18pm
That’s simply not going to happen. The “power balance” at ASU is nonexistent at the moment and it’s been like that for a while. A lot of voices are not being heard so there can’t be harmony
July 27, 2021 at 8:11pm
My opinion is that it is a Dictatorship. There is no "shared governance" at Adams State. My wish is that the Adams State faculty, and staff unite and come together with NO CONFIDENCE in the BoT. They are the body that is allowing her to do what she is doing.

- Dodie Day
July 27, 2021 at 6:41am
Not sure how this turned into a conversation about socialism when a simple comment was made correcting the person who referred to it as a dictatorship. ASU is not a dictatorship but is socialist in nature. Yes it is a state run school, uses a lot of state funds and is “owned” by the state (the people) sounds socialistic to me. People are also inferring that socialism is a bad thing or something that needs to be defended. When the wealth (SOBs money) is spread around to the other schools, that is socialist in nature. Take from the rich and give to the poor. Not sure I am seeing a bugaboo or McCarthyism here, just pointing out that it is not a dictatorship. Let us look at the world. North Korea, dictatorship, China, Cuba, Venezuela, socialist.
July 26, 2021 at 6:32pm
@July 20, 2021 at 4:29pm - It’s better if everyone gets vaccinated. I highly doubt that’ll be the case since a lot of students refused to wear a mask, let alone wear it properly, when this virus was at it’s peak (no vaccine available) but I am some what hopeful. ASU has to be able to easily distinguish a real vaccination card from a fake one because I’m willing to bet that there are students who will pull this stunt on them. If masks/vaccinations aren’t required then I can’t help but assume we will revert back to online school because this Delta virus is spreading and it’s spreading fast.
July 26, 2021 at 5:58pm
The 1950's called.  They want their McCarthyism and red-scare hysterics back.

ASU is a public institution funded through state and federal programs - paid for collectively by taxpayers.  Adams State isn't exactly a communist utopia, nor a Leninist thinktank.  A historical quote from before ASU was founded - about a time and place quite different from when and where the quote was attributed - isn't a very coherent or persuasive way to understand Colorado state higher education, public health guidelines during a pandemic, or much of anything else.
July 26, 2021 at 5:45pm
The goal of socialism is communism.

- Vladimir Lenin
July 26, 2021 at 1:42pm
Ah yes, hand-wringing over the bugaboo of "socialism" at Adams STATE University!
July 26, 2021 at 7:02am
To July 25, 2021 at 8:06pm: I think it would actually be socialism as opposed to a dictatorship.
July 25, 2021 at 8:06pm
It boils down to freedom of choice or dictatorship.
July 25, 2021 at 7:32pm
I understand, the problem is with the method. The SoB is very generous and has no problem supporting others. The just taking without conversation is the problem.

- Dodie Day
July 24, 2021 at 8:31am
Hi Dodie,

Here is the issue… The school of business does well, brings in a lot of students and has a surplus. We have a lot of programs that provide for the greater good of humanity but have a very limited draw from outside. Those are the programs that need the money more than the SOB. If SOB were to keep all that money, those other programs would not be able to survive. Think of the administration as Robin Hood, taking from the rich to give to the poor. A hero to most, unfortunately the money has to come from somewhere and the SOB generates more than many of the other programs. Thank you to the SOB for helping to uplift the ASU community as a whole. We could not do it without you!
July 23, 2021 at 7:54pm
So revenue sharing is no longer revenue sharing. The School of Business was notified today that ASU was taking all but $50,000 from the $280,000 they brought in. Administration already takes approximately 48% and now they are taking all but $50,000. The School of Business has helped other departments install security cameras. We have installed new carpet, and new blinds in the School of Business. It is shameful! Where is the incentive to recruit? SHOVEL LOVELL OUT THE DOOR.

- Dolores Marie Day
July 23, 2021 at 3:53pm
So, with everything, how much does Lovell get paid per year?

- bellisimma
July 22, 2021 at 11:08am
@July 20:

There are certainly many factors and a ton of information to consider regarding vaccinations. So, just a few comments:

- Following one of your links leads to a well-known limitation: "Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem." VAERS isn't all that helpful.

- Delta is taking over in terms of percentage of cases, but there are many other variants: delta plus, epsilon, kappa, lambda... The more people who carry coronavirus, the more replications (billions per person), so more mutations, and eventually more variants of concern. It's simple evolution, probabilistic. You don't even need to develop COVID, just carrying the virus is enough. So, the more people who are vaccinated, the slower the evolution, which will reduce the probability of evermore newly threatening variants. Delta is winning the evolution game right now because it is "worse" (acknowledging multiple dimensions here) than other variants, but we could certainly see something worse than delta come along.

It's impossible to weigh all the factors perfectly because there are too many unknowns (what small fraction of deaths in VAERS were actually caused by COVID; what new variants may appear), but we are nowhere near herd immunity, almost everyone dying from COVID these days is UNvaccinated, our economy is suffering, and more variants are on their way. I'm glad everyone in my family has been vaccinated, even the 18 and 29-year-olds.

- Jeff Elison
July 21, 2021 at 6:33pm
Congratulations to all the faculty and classified staff celebrating raises and systems that honor your accomplishments and years of service. That is sincere, it has needed to happen.

Just remember the exempt staff members that work 12-months a year as EDUCATORS for students as well, who do not get promotions and do not get raises - merit or seniority matter nothing. In fact, we get a printed certificate in a dollar store frame to celebrate our 5, 10, 15, 30 years of service. No joke, that’s it. We have no awards for us at the end of the year like you do to celebrate or honor outstanding staff. We get no recognition - verbally, monetarily, in any way, shape or form. Please remember that we matter too. Please stand up for us as we stand up for you.

HR says they’re hiring a consultant to build a system but it will take at least another year, like this is a new need? Like it couldn’t have happened at the same time as faculty and classified?

Adams will continue to see good people leave. I hope to be one soon, and I care a lot about this campus and our students. I can not handle this consistent circus that is ruining me and many other faculty and staff as people. Every day is a new day to get shit on by administration, to be run over by their micromanagement and lack of courage for progress.

The good news is you also have weeded the bad weeds among the flowers. The communications yahoo to name a big one.
July 20, 2021 at 4:29pm
@June 26, 2021 at 4:49pm - "COVID vaccine - no brainer from a science / public health perspective"

I agree, no brainer from both a science and public health perspective, but why are we insisting that our children get this vaccine when significantly less than 1% of the deaths are for individuals 15-24 years old? This is the science, CDCs numbers from the CDC website. 15–24-year-olds account for 998 of the 598,624 deaths nationwide. We should talk about the numbers (science) Over 90% of the deaths are in people over 50. (Provisional COVID-19 Deaths by Sex and Age)

I want to point out that I am not an anti-vaxer, I just think we should be very careful in forcing young people to take an unproven vaccine, especially when numbers (science) are now showing that the protections from the Delta variant may not be as good as were hoped. (Pfizer vaccine protection takes a hit as Delta variant spreads, Israeli government says)

I think this especially now that we are also seeing instances of young people having serious issues with the mRNA type vaccines since they have been granted provisional approval. According to VAERS and the CDC, over 1000 young people have had issues with their hearts. This just since April. (Myocarditis and Pericarditis Following mRNA COVID-19 Vaccination)

I think the vaccination is a great idea for those of us, including myself who is, are either at risk or older in age (say over 40?) but I have a hard time thinking my children will be forced to take this unproven vaccine. Especially considering that this is a novel virus and a new vaccine type. I understand that mRNA technology has been around for some years but using the technology as a vaccine has not. I would be much more willing to see the J&J adenovirus type vaccine forced since the military started using adenovirus type vaccines back in the 1970's and has 30 years of data available about side and long-term effects. (Adenovirus type vaccines were used 1971-1999 and were stopped because no one was producing the vaccine any longer. The military again started to give the adenovirus vaccine to all recruits starting 2012) At this point we do not have the luxury of that time related data available for evaluation of the mRNA type therapy.

I am by no means denying the existence or the impact of this virus. If you are at higher risk of dying from the virus, please get the vaccine. It has been proven to lessen the effects of the virus and improve survivability. This is the science. If those at-risk individuals are vaccinated and protected, like vaccines do, should we then have to force our children into a situation that is more dangerous to them than the virus itself? If the vaccine is already protecting the older, vaccinated individuals, why do the young need to be forced into that vaccination? Maybe since 90+% of the deaths are individuals over 50, those should be the people forced to get the vaccine, not those of college age. I invite responses. The only way we are going to get through this is together. I am just concerned what the long-term effects will be for our children.
July 8, 2021 at 9:41pm
I am appalled to hear Housing dropped the ball (again) and moved a student into an apartment that hadn’t been cleaned yet! The new director is nowhere to be found and the lack of communication in that department is at an all-time high.
July 8, 2021 at 7:25pm
I have been going back and forth with Classified Employees Council. I am sure I made a comment. Cannot find it. Yes, the current president of CEC admitted that she understands why I am upset. Through my persistence it has been proven, that CEC agreed to conduct the requested survey about Lovell. I would be happy to share all the emails if I knew how to do it.

- Dodie Day
July 3, 2021 at 8:06pm
Mr. Martin certainly brings in many athletes and is a valuable member of the school. However, where Adams State makes their big mistake is that track and field and cross country are the only sports that are funded adequately. When you put all your eggs in one basket, you will never go to the next level. If Adams would invest more money in their other athletic programs, they would likely see more bang for the buck, as well. Unfortunately, some programs are so underfunded that it makes it nearly impossible to recruit and retain athletes and compete in the conference. When track pays one athlete a scholarship that is worth equal to what some programs receive for the whole team in scholarship money, it is frustrating to everyone involved including other athletic coaching staff members. Whatever the case, 180% CUPA is pretty far off the charts.
July 2, 2021 at 7:19pm
The merger of departments, that statement is correct. The savings would be equal to her bonus. Didn't happen so WHO will she give the next negative evaluation to? As I have stated in the past "Shovel Lovell out the door. I haven't even begun about remarks she has made about brown people. Just my opinion and hearsay. I don't doubt it for a second.
July 2, 2021 at 3:01pm
----Editor's Note: We received this anonymous message yesterday and believe it is best to share it here for others to read and respond:

I would love to see a story or get some insight as to why Damon Martin makes 180% above his CUPA. He makes $120k a year and was given a associate AD title but has zero administrative duties.
July 1, 2021 at 7:26pm
July 1, 2021 at 12:31pm - Don't be silly! Bonuses at ASU only go to the President (i.e. Lovell), remember? To the tune of a $60,000 per year! Which, incidentally, happens to be the amount Lovell demanded in savings from the merger of departments into schools...but nothing to see here, move along folks!
July 1, 2021 at 12:31pm
Alamosa High School custodians got $1600 for working during Covid. Did ASU Facilities Services get any bonuses? Asking for a friend…
June 26, 2021 at 4:49pm
COVID vaccine - no brainer from a science / public health perspective, but politically complicated. Here is an interesting summary of the issues and how other universities are handling vaccination:

Colleges want students to get a coronavirus vaccine. But they’re split on requiring the shots.

I like this: "Rhodes College will require viral testing for unvaccinated students and charge them $1,500 per semester to cover the costs of the public health surveillance.

“We think we will see a lot of students voluntarily vaccinated,” said Meghan Harte Weyant, vice president for student life at the college in Memphis. She said the fee is not meant to be punitive. But it might spur some holdouts to get shots. “There may be some students who maybe weren’t sure or kind of apathetic on the topic,” Harte Weyant said. “This might encourage them to do that.”"

Please don't let politics interfere with public health. Please don't let your anti-vax misinformation be the reason for me, my relatives, my friends, my colleagues, or my students being added to the 600,000 dead due to COVID in the U.S. so far. Vaccinated and relieved to be.

- Jeff Elison
June 24, 2021 at 7:52pm
You cannot let everything slide. Classified Employees Council is a joke at this point. I have requested that the CEC website be updated. It hasn't been updated since 2017/2018. The only thing they are spending on is benefiting them. Let us talk about the Scholarship. Applications have been received with no response from CEC. Last, but not least, several Classified employees asked the council to conduct a survey regarding Lovell. An emergency meeting was called and the request was approved. No longer going to happen. Fear is rampant at Adams State.

- Dodie Day
June 24, 2021 at 3:20pm
Oh yes, and I'm sure the ASU administration has sent out a similarly authoritative announcement to the coronavirus that it is not allowed on campus until the FDA has fully approved the vaccine.
June 24, 2021 at 2:46pm
If you read the announcement it states once the vaccine is fully approved by the FDA. That is not the case as of yet. *Moot Point
June 24, 2021 at 2:01pm
A few points of correction: 1) The phrase is "moot point."  2) The FDA has authorized several vaccines for emergency use, which is precisely what a deadly pandemic requires.  3) The rabble rousing is being caused by a virus that has already killed over 600,000 Americans and the Delta variant is poised to ravage under-vaccinated communities this summer/fall because it is more contagious and more harmful.
June 24, 2021 at 6:32am
If you all had actually read the statement about mandatory vaccinations, you would have seen that there are both religious and personal exemptions available. No one is being forced to get the vaccine. Also, none of the vaccines have been approved by the FDA yet so really a mute point at this moment, but thanks for trying to rabble rouse.
June 23, 2021 at 9:01pm
Worse, the non-vaccinated will not face consequences, continuing the two-tiered system Adams runs on. Rules for thee, not for me.
June 23, 2021 at 8:11pm
I've been listening to people for the last several months say they will quit if being vaccinated is required. Well, the rubber is about to hit the road. Enjoy your job search.

Ha, who am I kidding? They'll stay and endlessly complain about it.
June 21, 2021 at 9:42pm
June 14 at 3:22 - Trust that being non-straight is NOT does not make life on-campus or off any easier- quite yet opposite even in 2021. Hiring a “straight” person is no better than saying I can’t believe they hired a white person. It’s messed up to think being a majority label is 1) appropriate to place someone else’s perceived orientation on here and 2) somehow a misgiving to be straight in a heteronormative world. It’s ignorant and hurtful.

I am proud to see a Latina leader in alumni, too. But please don’t celebrate one success by picking on another marginalized population who is hurting.
June 14, 2021 at 11:11pm
At June 19-12:02 am - Your comment saddens me deeply. I too have a love for ASU- formerly Indians! I’m proud to be a Native American and former Indian. Many changes and many quality employees have left this institution due to financial distress, sexism, discrimination and inequalities ( to name a few). The institution has apparently forgotten the reason and mission it stands for and who it serves. The students should be the primary focus. I continue to receive my A-Stater magazine and find myself lost for words. After the retirement of David Svaldi- the institution has been on the downhill track.

The two past presidents have been only in position for greed and power. Who is on the chopping block next? Which faculty administrator will have enough and walk away? It’s obvious that no employee is protected from the current president and she is only out for herself. How does she think she can gainfully understand the SLV communities, students and institution? Not once has she been to Costilla or Conejos Counties (much less say these words) to visit with the communities! She seems to send her spies, minions, or pets to do her LatinX outreach. Many of us oldies but goodies have stopped contributing to ASU.

Please remember your roots and where you came from! Viva la Raza!
June 14, 2021 at 3:22pm
I can’t believe the President agreed to hire a straight female SLV Latina for the Director of Alumni Relations.  Maybe the President is opening her eyes! Good luck pronouncing Ms. Ashley Maestas name - please take note of the spelling of last name! Ashley won’t put up with the President’s shit!
June 10, 2021 at 8:50pm
I’m saddened to see the recent post from the student. But I’m honestly not shocked. People are hurting there. Adams State is a wonderful place. But the upper administration has definitely made things toxic. I left about a year ago because I knew I would never be supported in my position despite pouring all my effort into what I did. As much as I loved the community and the school, it wasn’t worth the frustration I felt.
June 10, 2021 at 12:13am
I know I wasn't going to Post. I have to support the last post.

- Dodie Day
June 9, 2021 at 12:02am
I want to preface this message with the fact that I have a profound love for Adams State. It is the institution that has become the epicenter for the rest of my life. This campus has been my home for years. The experiences and memories that I have created will carry me onto the next steps of my life.

However, there are times (now more than ever) that I find myself falling between feeling more tired and borderline ashamed of being a Grizzly. This feeling is at no fault of the faculty. My professors and the relationships that our tiny campus community has allowed me to have (in such few years that feels like a lifetime) already made an invaluable impact in my life. I will forever be indebted to the countless hours my professors have spent outside of class time and office hours to help me grow into my authentic self. These very moments that (many) students like myself have found to be the most impactful. These personal connections (in my opinion) are what make ASU so incredibly unique. We feel seen and heard, and our advising becomes personal. Our professors see our potential every day and encourage us to go beyond our own perceived limits. Unfortunately, this is where it ends.

Students' voices are not as valuable as the institution wants us to believe. I fully understand that students do not know all of the details that go into decision-making, rightfully so. But there comes a time where the blatant disregard of our concerns and questions becomes... deplorable. Students deserve transparency. Students deserve the right to understand why our voices do not carry weight.  When large-scale institutional changes occur, the changes that directly affect students, we're left in the dark.

Most students were unaware of the new financial and course load caps until bills were sent out. The removal of what makes ASU so special (tenure track lines) was decided without our input. The second students caught wind of these situations, they acted. They approached AS&F and tried to talk with President Lovell and make sense of what was happening. Instead, students were met with unanswered emails and passive dismissals. Students are tired. Students are fed up. What happens when students feel this way? They leave.

The retention issues that ASU faces could be easily addressed if the administration took a second out of their day to listen. They can send out all the surveys they want, go to conferences, and compare data from other institutions. But the most valuable resource they have access to are made to feel like burdens. Students could give entire presentations as to why they feel dissatisfied with ASU. But what's the point? ASU has incredible potential. I want to know why the students are the last to know. I want to know why we, the students (the very reason for ASU's existence), do not matter.
June 2, 2021 at 8:38pm
What is the devil, you do not need to look far. My last post. She has humiliated many, how many have cried, she has forced people out. She is the devil. She needs to go. Shovel Lovell out the door. Last post, grow some Xxxx!

- Dodie Day
June 1, 2021 at 7:54pm
The issues at ASU are far and wide. There is discrimination, white and non-white. It goes both ways.

- Dodie Day
May 28, 2021 at 4:13pm
These petty comments about the new athletic director need to stop. It is not her fault that you accepted an offer that was low while having a Masters or PhD. Mind your business, get your coin, and your network together.

- Meagan Smith
May 25, 2021 at 9:38pm
Re: May 24 @10:35 - I am truly sad that you would prefer to leave ASU rather than work to make it better. It is our students who suffer the most in this realm. Having said that, I certainly understand. I understand the need for self-preservation. The environment is SOOO toxic. Whatever your decision, know that I am behind you and I hope others will pick up your mantle for our students left behind in your wake.
May 24, 2021 at 10:35am
I as a Hispanic/Latina employee feel as though I am treated unfairly and have been since the 5 years I have started. There is NO equality or diversity! Out of all of the jobs I have been at - this place is sexist, hypocritical, and discriminatory! If you are not of the correct gender, race (need to be white), or political party you are literally screwed. Heaven forbid it if you disagree, have an opinion, or ask a question regarding any of the LGBTQ issues or political issues on campus - you are outcast!

And to think that we are an HSI! I didn't know what an HSI was until I started instructing here - but I clearly can state we do not serve our HSI population one ounce! MEP and CAMP students are treated as though they are not welcomed or wanted here! I see faculty treating them like they are some type of plague. Disgusted! And yes, I am looking for other opportunities to get out of here. I would like to suggest that any of Lovell's puppets should instruct her to learn and become more fluent in learning individual's last names! Not only Latinx but all employees! She is ruining this institution. The community cannot stand this woman.
May 22, 2021 at 12:18pm
Thank you for speaking out. Keep it up. It is good to bring questions/concerns to the surface.

- Dodie Day
May 19, 2021 at 6:35pm
The issue is, we don't want to harm/hurt Adams State. We all love Adams and believe in the mission. Lovell is poison.

- Dodie Day
May 15, 2021 at 1:33pm
I know that people working at Adams State are afraid of loosing their jobs. I have only scratched the surface. People are talking to each other. There is so much to expose.

- Dodie Day
May 15, 2021 at 9:25am

Yes people are afraid. Lovell is vindictive. Please provide a copy of this report to the editor of this website. I haven’t seen it. If there has been fraud on federal reporting, you (or someone with proof) should call the US Department of Education and report this fraud. I suspect it is a crime if a federal report was falsified.
May 14, 2021 at 7:10pm
I want to encourage everyone to post. You don't need to sign it. I know a lot of people at Adams are afraid of retaliation. That has been proven from a survey that Lovell could not tamper with. It should be a crime to even suggest that a PI alter information on a Title V grant.

- Dodie Day
May 12, 2021 at 8:05pm
Yes... just a puppet for the track coach mainly. Track will undoubtedly start getting more funding while the other athletic programs are left to fight over the scraps...a little league operation for sure.
May 11, 2021 at 3:17pm
to May 7, 2021 at 8:00pm - Matt Gersick, throwing coach and weight room coach. Gersick coached her while she was on the track team I believe. Nothing going on here.  She is a puppet for the president and the $125,000 Associate Athletic Director Martin.
May 10, 2021 at 7:34pm
I don't know anything about the AD. I did believe she needed more experience. I had a great trip this past weekend. My youngest graduated, not from Adams. We visited and there is this, Shovel Lovell out the door. Lovell has not only made a comment about brown people, she has made a PI, or suggested, that all negative reporting be taken out. It is true, we do not retain students.

- Dodie Day
May 7, 2021 at 8:00pm
Katelyn is also engaged to a coach under her. Tell me that’s okay any where else... it’s not.
May 7, 2021 at 7:48pm
The simple answer is that the new AD is a President pet. She is hand selected for many initiatives from the President including sponsoring her to be a part of a women’s leadership program- she was groomed for the role from the top. Katelyn is a very nice woman, but under qualified with little experience- and now is making more money (over double) than folks who have been here longer and with more experience across campus. Once again, athletics comes before all else is administration’s motto, and it will be our institution’s downfall- already has been since 2010. The current AD can’t even tell others how money is spent within athletics, but she does what she is told so it’s a perfect fit for the micromanager of a President we have. Can’t fight that fight. It was a waste of a search.
May 7, 2021 at 2:22pm
Why the underqualified AD? Same reason She does everything: save $.
May 7, 2021 at 12:04pm
I was shocked by the hire of the new AD. How can you hire someone to run an athletic department when they have never held a head coaching position at any level? I compare this to a school district that hires a superintendent of schools who has never been a teacher. Or hiring a bank president who has never been a bank teller. I don't know who else applied, but I did see that the president said over 100 people applied. And they hired someone who has never been a head coach in college or even high school? That seems like that would be an absolute prerequisite. These are the types of issues that make you wonder what goes on behind the scenes.
May 6, 2021 at 7:53pm
You are right on.

- Dodie Day
May 6, 2021 at 5:04pm
Why is ASU a toxic environment?
1) The essential workers on campus get treated like crap and are over worked.
2) As a person of color, I do not feel welcomed/ seen as an equal by some of the staff member here.
3) A handful of the staff members here do not deserve the title that they have because there are more deserving/honest people on campus that deserve that title they have.
4) Diversity is an issue here. It is honestly nonexistent here.
5) Students voices do not matter.

If you are thinking of working here or attending this school, don't. You will get screwed over.
May 5, 2021 at 7:05pm
Thank you all for your comments. I appreciate all of them. Maybe, I should have been less hostile. What can we all agree on? Please leave your comments.  At this point, how does she stay? She has referred to Hispanic as brown people. More brown people want that job. The person in the job was too white.

- Dodie Day
May 5, 2021 at 9:07am
@May 4 10:26 BRAVO!
May 4, 2021 at 10:57pm
The dynamics of discourse on this forum clearly demonstrate a good match between employees of ASU and its leadership. You ever question why you get leaders like Frank Novotny or Beverlee McClure (and those are not the worst)? You can get the answer by exploring how you communicate.
May 4, 2021 at 10:26pm
Dodie, I really went back and forth about whether or not write this. At the end of the day, here it goes.

Yes, you are entitled to your thoughts, opinions, etc. as we all are. Believe me there are many issues on which I disagree with Lovell. BUT IT IS NEVER ok to resort to name calling, bullying, or just general uncivil behavior. She is a human being who deserves a modicum of respect for that simple fact (taught to me by a very respected professor, Dr. Doston) and that doesn’t include calling her a “bitch” in a public forum. Fine if you do that amongst your “people,” but not here.

We should be engaged in thoughtful, CIVIL debate on this forum. If we don’t, we lose all credibility.
May 4, 2021 at 9:29am
@ April 27, 2021 at 7:00pm:  That’s 7 custodians and 4 supervisors (Rodney, the 2 day guys and the night guy). Get your facts straight. That’s 1.75 custodians per 1 supervisor.
May 3, 2021 at 6:49pm
I appreciate your comments. We are all entitled to express our thoughts. See her for what she is. That goes for both of us.

- Dodie Day
May 3, 2021 at 4:20pm
Re: May 3 @4:00pm - And she would be the first to criticize anyone else for far less. She is a as Dodie says not as Dodie does.
May 3, 2021 at 4:00pm
So disrespectful! Dodie Day must be very proud of herself. Playground bully is the picture she has painted of herself.
May 3, 2021 at 8:25am
What was the bright light, Dodie?
April 30, 2021 at 7:20pm
A very sad day for me. The only bright lite at Adams has been snuffed out by Lovell. No, we do not want your cookies, bitch.

In addition... last year, after Governor Polis mandated no tuition raises, Adams State, during the summer, when most faculty and students are not on campus, closed the tuition window. This was a cap of 20 credits and changed to 16 credits. Between Nursing and the School of Business, that accounted for $110,000 dollar that students paid in tuition. What is that money being spent on?  Definitely not academics. Maybe Lovell's bonus?

- Dodie Day
April 27, 2021 at 7:00pm
$120K for a comedian yet the custodial staff has been shorthanded all semester. Give those people a break and hire already and don’t say it’s the state hiring process that makes it take so long. No other department has ever taken this long but every time custodial is shorthanded it always takes months to fully staff that department and even then it never lasts that long. I’ve spoken to the handful that work there and they’re all burned out mentally, emotionally and physically.
April 27, 2021 at 4:46pm
Oh it is real. $120k for one hour of a comedian courtesy of Chris Lopez and his blind followers within his alumni staff. Just waiting on the top to officially put the stamp of approval on it. I propose the tag line for their marketing of the event “Adams 100- celebrating like it’s our last party, because if we keep spending money like this, it will be! Thanks donors for your support of my bad decisions to support my own ego! Also while you are here, can we have some more money to spend like children and laugh while the rest of campus is barley surviving budget cuts?”
April 26, 2021 at 11:09pm
$120,000? This can't be real.
April 24, 2021 at 11:49am
Some students are upset regarding the approval to retain a coach. Again, as always, it all leads back to Lovell.

- Dodie Day
April 23, 2021 at 7:49pm
ASU can’t afford anything, but thanks to some donors money that went unused due to COVID- 19, will now be bringing comedian Gabriel Iglesias for the cost of over $120,000 for a one-hour “comedic performance” to celebrate 100 years. No joke. One hour. $120,000.

Way to go Adams State, Communications, and Alumni.

Plop that shiny band-aid on an institution that has a lot of real issues that need fixing. We can’t afford to pay employees a wage above 70-80% of average unless you are administrator or within Athletics. We can’t afford to have programs that would have tangible impact on retention. We can’t afford to update the deplorable living conditions in the campus family and apartment living. We can’t have auxiliary buildings that don’t have toxic filling. We can’t have adequate support systems for our students.

We can have unrealistic expectations from the top, and apparently, bring something for one night that is worth sending several students to school on a full ride. You would think after this year alumni would have gone back to donors and asked to put the money donated for the 100 year celebration, to go back to directly to students who can barely survive until tomorrow after losing family, jobs and support this year. I feel like I’m in a twilight zone and I want out desperately. I am so tired of feeling alone and demeaned on this campus while “they” continue to push this kind of crap through with no campus input or care for current students. It’s literally like a homeless person buying a Mercedes. Just doesn’t make sense. It’s infuriating, actually.
April 16, 2021 at 2:10pm
----Editor's Note: We recently received an anonymous message from someone identifying themselves as a black student at ASU who is very upset with "racial issues/inequalities" at ASU and is transferring out of the school as a result.  They describe in detail a pattern of comments, situations, and language that led them to conclude ASU is "not black friendly" and mention many other students of color also leaving ASU for these reasons.  They conclude by asking for Watching Adams to bring this to the attention of the faculty, staff, and administration at Adams State.

Because the author chose not to leave contact information or post their comment publicly, we are encouraging anyone who wishes to share these or similar concerns to post their comments here.  Comments may be submitted anonymously, as always, in the interest of facilitating a discussion while protecting the identity of those involved.
April 15, 2021 at 8:28pm
Just saw this article and since I know the administration watches these comments, I felt it fitting to share the link.

The Dumbest Thing You Can Say to an Employee
April 5, 2021 at 3:40pm
Ledonne v. McClure Case Summary - For those of you who didn't know much of this story, I'm sharing this Powerpoint here, which I received for the first time over the weekend and had not seen prior.

This presentation was prepared by the ACLU of Colorado in June 2016 as part of our mediation conference and lays out the facts of the lawsuit I filed against Adams State University. I have added two final slides as a post-script to summarize the outcomes for myself and Beverlee McClure, then president of ASU.  This was one of the most formative experiences of my life and served as a strong motivation for attending law school.

- Danny Ledonne
March 18, 2021 at 8:54pm
I am a simple person. I believe Cheryl Lovell is only one part of ASU's problems, although, in my opinion, the largest. The BoT is also at fault. I am sure there are students, faculty, and staff not putting in 100% every day and not giving it their best. The majority of us are committed to ASU and believe in our mission and giving it 100%.

- Dodie Day
March 18, 2021 at 10:26am
March 3, 2021 11:30 p.m. - I found your post a bit cold. If you are a person who lives and works and studies at ASU, and things go wrong for you, because of the horrid rash of fights between the Admins and the faculty, especially over money, you are owed at least a modicum of respect for what you went through. My first take and advice, if you will, is to quit using the PhD students as Adjunct Faculty. It's not fair to the students paying tuition. You can get a person who doesn't teach well, and who plays favorites and bad guys with the students. If you are an undergrad, you can walk away from the university with your credits and plop them at some other school. But you can't do that as a graduate student, and often with a job at the ASU, you are left trying to explain what went wrong. For many hiring managers, this could be a deal-breaker. Not to mention the fact you may have purchased or rented a home in Alamosa, and guess what? The management isn't hiring at certain retail establishments, at least not at more than 8 dollars an hour. That's 320 a week and going to that from 70 k a year? How?

Now, other things I noticed about you. You opined that life is hard. That's not a nice way to speak to others. It's in fact kind of nasty, and weren't you, at the outset of your post, complaining about another poster bullying? "Too busy watering my grass to look at yours?" Really, is this Lovell or something? ASU is a state school, and once you've attended it, worked at it, and paid taxes to it by living in the state of Colorado, IT IS YOUR GRASS!

The college/university status at ASU should be undone and it should be a special school for Leadership from grades 11-12 from all over the state, perhaps the country. The only rules should be that you should not deliberately hurt others, you should create something, and you have to get turned on by what you do. It should be open to any race, religion, or creed. ASU as it stands now is a testimony to failed leadership, from long ago. Not just the current management. Their money problems take the school by the balls and bring it down really low.
March 18, 2021 at 9:19am
The below message came out to the Classified Employees on March 17. Looks like ASU is in financial trouble. Sadly, ASU will not fill those classified positions - more work dumped on an employee. Curious as to how long it will take to fill the extended studies admin. position. Seems as though it's been over 9 months!

Dear Certified Classified Employee:

As part of our ongoing budget and planning process, we would like to explore the feasibility of a Voluntary Separation Incentive Plan (VSIP). Offering a VSIP allows us to provide a monetary incentive to those considering separating from the institution, resulting in base salary savings and increased flexibility for the institution.

We are only gauging interest at this time and may or may not move forward with offering an incentive depending on the financial feasibility of doing so. If you have any interest in participating or learning more, please let me know by close of business on Wednesday March 24, 2021.

Indicating interest does not obligate you in any way; it simply provides us with a way to gauge interest. I will not share this information in any manner except as necessary to evaluate the effectiveness of utilizing a plan.

As we are in the feasibility study phase, we have not set the value of the incentive, however the basic eligibility requirements are as follows:

1. Employee must be a permanent, classified employee in certified or trial services status with 5 years of service with ASU as of June 30, 2021.

2. Employee must not have received a specific notice of disciplinary termination.
3. Employee must not currently occupy a position for which a waiver of retention or appeal rights is a condition of employment.
4. Employee must voluntarily separate from ASU in accordance with the Program and during the time frame specified in the program.
5. Employee must sign the written agreement as specified in the program.

If you have interest or have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me at and we can find a time to chat.

March 3, 2021 at 11:30pm
Feb 19- I can agree with much of what you said but 1) bullying is never okay, and yes, it’s bullying if you are calling people out on an anonymous post with no context to your claims and no room for improvement on feedback because it’s anonymous and catty instead of helpful. 2) calling college students who are learning skills “kids” or “children” shows your true colors 3) I’m assuming who you are, and I’ll remind you that not everyone is privileged to leave a job to go home to their parents to flip the bill, so be kind before you judge others. “Too busy watering my grass to look at yours” may be something to keep in mind. 4) life is hard. There is no reason to make life harder for others. You have no idea what others have been through. 5) be a part of the change or let go. You have already left, so now, let go.
March 1, 2021 at 12:26pm
Feb 21, 2021 11:18 - Well sexism isn't rampant in my life, trust me. But there are patterns of behavior that you see over and over again in the workplace! Check out
February 25, 2021 at 10:57am
@ February 19, 2021 at 5:04pm - Did you have an experience where the PD refused you an on campus escort? Honestly, I am shocked that someone was refused an escort. I would think you should probably talk to the chief about that because I am pretty sure part of the job is escorting residents on campus. Why else would ASU have a PD if they are not there to make the campus community feel safe and to protect the campus and students?
February 22, 2021 at 11:25am
Toot Toot!! Go Meagan!
February 21, 2021 at 4:00pm
Just remember: Meagan Smith started the "signing your comment" movement. Because I am not a coward. You're welcome!
February 21, 2021 at 11:18am
Whoa February 20 @ 3:26! Let’s be cognizant of broad brush strokes or stereotypes of specific groups of people. Would hate for you to come across as sexist and misogynistic. Geesh!
February 20, 2021 at 3:26pm
@Dodie Day about Lovell targeting individuals.  Personality in the workplace: Targeting those who tell you 'no' or those who say they have a problem to fix. Some react terribly, terrifiedly, by any challenge and don't see the problem as anything other than the messenger. This is all too common in women, AND they often rise quite high.
February 19, 2021 at 5:04pm
Where to begin...

- Underfunded
- Disorganized
- Incredible turnover rate (wtf is with this position?!)

Jeni Carter
- Unavailable
- Unmotivated (unless it comes to funds)
- Spends less hours in the office than I call my daughter

President Lovell
- Flakey
- Remembers her Starbucks points but forgets concerning IMPORTANT emails
- Dismisses student concerns

- A 6 person team only holding up by 2 kids (Is it that hard?)
- Lead by a single intern hired at the beginning of the fall semester for only one AY (excluding Ken, who Adams State will miss)
- There is no hope for student life to live on for another year regardless of COVID circumstances.

- As per this site, we can see that Football - a million dollar 2017 - 2018 business
- Using student fees to cover for student-athlete SCHOLARSHIPS

- Sub-par
- Cold
- Grossly outdated
- Poorly maintained

- Money hungry
- Pseudo-super heroes (refuse to escort residents back to apartments if they feel unsafe)
- Understaffed yet have enough money to get more equipment? (But then still asked for student funds)

- Money pit for sub-par results
- Greedy and unwilling to compromise for the betterment of the academic departments of the institution

Faculty Senate
- Faculty Tenure Policy - BS

- CM
February 19, 2021 at 9:44am
Campus cops make way more than the average professor! What is wrong with this place? We have a local police department, but we don't have a local alternative to the dedicated professors.
February 19, 2021 at 6:31am
You tell them Dodie, aside from you and Jeff, hardly anyone, including myself, has the balls to sign their names.

I may not always (or ever) agree with Dodie but I have a ton of respect for her in that she has the balls to sign their names. She is the last person on this forum that should “give it a rest.” Plus, if you notice, all Dodie’s posts come outside work hours, which again, I can not say for everyone else.

Props from me on this Dodie!
February 18, 2021 at 11:55pm
Give 'em hell, Dodie!
February 18, 2021 at 8:51pm
Whow, sign your comment. Be brave and stand behind your comment. Your comment has no value.

- Dodie Day
February 17, 2021 at 8:55pm
"Positive thinking brings positive results." Ha ha ha ha ha, you have me rolling on the floor. You might as well prescribe soma. "Just be happy, quit protesting, administration has your best interests at heart. What comes next won't hurt a bit."
February 17, 2021 at 8:19pm
Who agrees that the appropriate reference for "Watching Adams" should be changed to "Watching Adams by Dodie Day?" Give it a break, Dodie, and support your leader. Focus on doing the work you were hired to do. Positive thinking brings about positive results.
February 17, 2021 at 7:24pm
I am not defecting, just pointing out. There are classified employees, tenure track faculty, and those at will not performing. We have a president who targets individuals. Thank the universe we have classified and tenure to protect us from her wrath.

- Dodie Day
February 17, 2021 at 8:50am
Dodie, my first reaction before I finished reading your post was you probably have more protection than we do.

Just like you, tenured faculty can get bad evaluations, be required to come up with a plan, and eventually be dismissed if we don't improve (post-tenure review process). You ask how much damage students need to endure before that happens, and the answer is probably a whole lot. Tenure was designed to protect the public good. It is supposed to prevent administrators from firing professors because they do controversial research (gun violence, pornography, climate change) or teach controversial topics or points of view. Imagine the damage that could be done from suppression of climate science research or gun violence. Oh wait, the U.S. government has done that at times, pandering to the gun and oil industries. See what I mean about the public good?

Also protected: speaking out against insane conspiracy theories like QAnon, faked school shootings, Trump's stolen election, COVID isn't real conspiracy, all the anti-vaccine crap, and even teaching evolution is controversial for some people.
February 17, 2021 at 7:30am
Dodie, this wasn’t a conversation about faculty. Stop deflecting and stay focused.
February 16, 2021 at 7:32pm
Yes, the classified system has flaws. I do feel safe. I am performing, my supervisor appreciates me. As a classified employee, I have almost as much protection as a tenured faculty member. Classified employees can receive a poor evaluation. A plan is put in place. Tenured faculty, stay until they leave on their own or pass away. How much damage do students need to endure taking a class from a tenured faculty member, because no one will intervene?

- Dodie Day
February 15, 2021 at 9:07pm
February 15 @ 7:46 - I think I was pretty clear...seniority doesn’t mean equity. Why are you asking redundant questions?  There are a number in the classified system would be fired for incompetence if it were easy to do. That’s not equitable, either. Perhaps I hit a nerve with you?
February 15, 2021 at 7:46pm
@ February 15, 2021 at 6:33pm - Call it what you want, but the classified system ensures that seniority matters. It also provides the protections that allow people like Dodie to speak their mind without the fear of retaliation. Are you suggesting that the classified system is not fair and equitable?
February 15, 2021 at 6:33pm
Well...seniority — however defined — certainly guarantees a lack of equity!
February 15, 2021 at 12:59pm
To February 14, 2021 at 7:30pm: Seniority.
February 14, 2021 at 7:30pm
Somebody needs to do an investigation. Tell me why are Custodian I’s the only group of people that when they have company time can’t take it when they want? They’re always told to take their comp time on Mondays and Tuesdays.
February 10, 2021 at 7:01pm
Not sure if it will make a change. I have asked Governor Polis to investigate ASU. We live under a dictatorship, not an army. Yes people.

- Dodie Day
February 9, 2021 at 9:31pm
Colleges vowed a safer spring, but then students, and variants, arrived.

"The American College Health Association ... issuing guidelines in December. “For the spring, we specifically recommend that all students are tested on arrival and twice a week thereafter if possible,” said Gerri Taylor, a student health expert who serves as co-chair of the organization’s Covid-19 task force."
February 9, 2021 at 2:49pm
I find it in extremely poor taste that nothing has come out from administration about the passing of former trustee Val Vigil on February 5, 2021. Mr. Vigil was a long time supporter of Adams and served our institution well. I know it’s difficult and time consuming to copy and paste information from an obit and blast it campus-wide, but gosh, seems like an appropriate thing to do.

Even the Denver news stations reported it.
February 5, 2021 at 8:25am
To be honest, the environment sounds like what happens when you stuff rats in a barrel and then remove the food.

Yes, the above comment was on the board, Jan 20th! And after attending Adams, and reading this site, that part of the statement is true. Bashing the board though, well, you would know a lot less of what is going on if you hadn't read it, now wouldn't you? People will say things anonymously they won't say at other moments. The problems of the school are still the same, does anyone want to share the sobriquet they started for Lovell? Superstorm Beverly moved on. And Lovell?

As for the solution to Adams's problems financially? You almost always have to cut expenses. Perhaps they could sell Adams as a satellite school to one of the state schools? Nah, maybe not. The isolation of the area also causes a lot of trouble. Working two jobs is a problem because of the small area, so taking a job at a normal market value might be harder, especially if you move to the area with a wife/husband who also needs a professional position.

Maybe, you might be better off if you hire a Jean a la Billy Jack, to make the place a Freedom School!

- bellisimma
February 1, 2021 at 7:37pm
Masood, I agree. Ken is an asset to ASU. It would be difficult to find a person more dedicated to Adams State and its students.

- Dodie Day
January 31, 2021 at 5:06pm
I'm surprised our COVID Dashboard says only 4 cases for last week. Dozens of students have told me they are quarantined.
January 30, 2021 at 6:52pm
I am extremely saddened to hear of the situation with Ken. When I first came for an on-campus interview for the director of student engagement and success position in April, 2008 he was at the airport to receive me in his truck and when he dropped me at the Best Western motel he gave me a complete pack of bottled water as that was the time when water was contaminated in Alamosa. Later we became good friends, and we always enjoyed being in his and his wife’s company. I know when he came to my office in the SUB in June 2015 to hand me the letter from the administration that they were eliminating my position, he was uncomfortable, and I sensed sadness in him. He was just following orders from Beverlee McClure. I wish him and his family the very best as always.

- S. Masood Ahmad
Director of Student Engagement and Success (2008-2015)
January 30, 2021 at 4:53pm
Yes, it is true, Ken is being forced out. He is constantly being subjected to harassment by Lovell. She has a history of harassment. No one will speak out because who do you go to? I am going to send a letter to Governor Polis. I want our board of trustees and Lovell reviewed.

- Dodie Day
January 28, 2021 at 8:32pm
Lovell has created a hostile working environment at ASU. Why would Ken retire? He hasn't reached retirement age. He only has 27 years in. Lovell has created a hostile working environment for him. She thinks she's steps in front of everyone else. The truth will prevail.
January 28, 2021 at 6:23am
There will be an all campus meeting today at 3:30pm. We may be told that Ken is going to retire at the end of April. That may be true but not the complete truth. One can only put up with so much of Lovell's BS. Ken loves Adams State and wouldn't be leaving if Lovell was not ASU's President.
January 23, 2021 at 1:17pm
What happened with Ken Marquez? Did he retire? Resign?
January 22, 2021 at 9:06pm
Well, Ken Marquez has had enough of Lovell. She is poison. Who is next, anyone not a yes person? Maybe the new VPAA.
January 20, 2021 at 6:38pm
Well ain’t that special! Someone who has never worked under this vile leadership knows exactly what our problems are—we the faculty and staff are greedy!

Piece of advice “Dr. know it all”, until you’ve lived it, you don’t have an opinion grounded in fact. Period.
January 20, 2021 at 10:59am
I am a faculty member at another university (far from ASU). I occasionally dream about moving out to the SLV to live/retire, and that dream also includes an interest in teaching at ASU (I enjoy teaching and learning). Sometime in the past ten years I came across this site (WA). I check back from time to time to see what is going on at ASU and the SLV (since I don't know anyone there). I realize that WA is a somewhat jaundiced view of ASU, but you can learn a lot about an institution from this "fly on the wall" perspective. Unfortunately, the perspective hasn't changed over the years. That's not entirely true - the situation has gotten worse. To be honest, the environment sounds like what happens when you stuff rats in a barrel and then remove the food. Yes, ASU has a bad hand to play for many reasons, and it hasn't gotten any easier over the last few years (2020 especially). I think everyone understands that. The big picture (about the money, because it seems that all you talk about on WA is money) is fairly simple - revenues are insufficient to cover costs. And you can't fix a revenue problem by firing a custodian here or an art professor there. I am not trying to be a smart-a**. I realize that there are many intelligent, informed people out there trying to work the problem.

But...there seems to be a collective feeling on this site, trumpeted for all to see, that the ship is sinking. You continue to snatch the life preservers out of each other's hands as you struggle to be the last person who drowns. The way you talk about each other (students, staff, administrators, faculty) is just heartbreaking. I have come to see the same phenomenon at my own institution over the last few years - our collective sense of shared mission and purpose has withered under a steady stream of social media invective. We have stopped talking to each other and have retreated to our own camps for consolation. I fear that we are like ASU, only some years removed. Some of our faculty think a union is the solution. Some think our administration is to blame. To me, the solution is clear.

ASU has built a cost structure that it can no longer support. From this point forward, there are only two options: reduce costs, or find a way to meaningfully increase revenues. I read a lot about "this person" and "that person" on this site, what he or she makes, how worthless they are...but have you ever discussed (really discussed) the product that you are offering? I know that most people think they are great teachers...but are you really? What about your programs? Some think that the most important thing about students is that they learn how to write in MLA format. Does an ASU education pull students in, or is that just inertia? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing...

If ever there was a time for transformational thinking (and doing) with regard to the post-secondary experience, this is it. ASU has an opportunity to reinvent more than just a revenue model. If you really care about your students (like everyone on this site professes to do), then you will find a way to turn ASU into the kind of place that everyone will be proud of. It is going to take a new sense of mission and new ways of thinking. It is going to take humility and conversation and grace. Mostly grace. It has to be organic, from the faculty and staff and students up (sadly, there is no hero-administrator just over the hill in Denver waiting to charge in and save the day). Stop waiting and get to work. Build it yourselves and they will come.

And then, hopefully, someone will close this awful site down.
January 18, 2021 at 7:27pm
So what happened at the “spring fling”? Needless to say, I was busy.
January 18, 2021 at 12:00pm
"Adams State Campus Community - Don't forget the Welcome Back Spring Fling scheduled for January 18 @ 3 pm."

Wonder what are wonderful lack of a leader will update us on...

Campus is already infected with COVID-19 from the students that arrived on last Monday prior to testing this past weekend. Makes sense? Why on Earth would you bring students to campus, then have them test, then start classes two days later? Does this make sense? Most colleges and universities are having faculty, staff and students test 7 days prior to arriving on campus!

Prez Lovell - you need to start leading and become a leader! Take some etiquette courses and learn how to treat your ALL of your employees (stop favoring - we see who those puppets are) look and see how you treat our community! Some of us are born and raised here - some of us have lived here for many years and consider this our HOME! You are destroying the SLV Community! You have no representation here! We all know that you live in Aurora and would rather stay there and call that place your home - if that is your choice ~ please by all means ~ pack up and leave! Reside on Lakeview Drive (Southshore neighborhood). Maybe you can do more for that community.

Lost me day 1 (too)!
January 15, 2021 at 9:42am
Thanks Jeff I appreciate the information you have provided. I wish the school would look at some of these position that have extremely high CUPA.
January 14, 2021 at 6:53pm
Responding again to January 13, 2021 at 9:14am:
You wrote "I feel if the focus is on the students everything else will fall into place." And again, most of us faculty are always focused on students, but it never shows in pay. Salaries have been incredibly low, as in some of the worst in the U.S., since before I arrived 10 years ago. Things didn't "fall into place" when enrollment was at record highs around 2011. We saw no significant raises.

- Jeff Elison
January 14, 2021 at 6:10pm
RE: January 13, 2021 at 9:14am
I think there is more to graduation rates than just professors vs. administration, but I don't have time to address them right now. I'll just give you one example: I bet most students at CU and definitely at DU don't have to work or help support their families; many of ours do. That's a huge burden that detracts from their time on academics, and in some cases it requires them to drop out - for a while or forever, or "a while" becomes forever.

Most professors I know work their butts off to help students. We teach because we love it. In a previous life, I was a software engineer at Intel Corp. and Hewlett-Packard. I made more money for less work. I enjoy my job here much more. I'm not in it for the money. However, it does hurt and feels like we are underappreciated when we see what colleagues at other schools make. It's also difficult when some of us are forced to work well past 65 just to afford retirement. Apparently, "society" values Facebook, Twitter, and Netflix more than education.

RE: January 13, 2021 at 6:28pm
Thanks for the clarification. I can certainly understand and appreciate everything in this most recent post.

- Jeff Elison
January 13, 2021 at 6:28pm
Mr. Ellison,

I think you lost the point that she never once has involved herself over the past year in the community struggle. It is disappointing. Also, the point was that there was violence close to home. Many of us were terrified of losing our businesses to perceived violence etc. she showed no leadership.
January 13, 2021 at 9:14am
I’m not sure of what the current climate is at ASU, but are professors just worried about there salaries? Or should the focus be on provide the correct services to help students graduate? I feel if the focus is on the students everything else will fall into place. Is the rigor and appropriate for the type of student that we serve? Who is responsible for the low graduation rates the professors or the administration? These things create a domino effect.
January 13, 2021 at 8:11am
Yet another record day for COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. yesterday (over 4,300), and the seven day average for new cases (over 250,000) was 50% higher than when we went online in November. Why is ASU bringing students back to Alamosa and campus? Who wrote ASU administration doesn't care about the local community?
January 12, 2021 at 11:30am
Another "what about?" All this talk about percentages and CUPA can be a bit abstract. I was asked about dollars.

Looking at the half dozed positions, closest to 82% of CUPA, they range from about $8,000 - $20,000 per year short of the CUPA average. $12,000 is fairly representative.

Multiply that over a 20 year-career: Your pay will be $240,000 less. At our *old* retirement contribution rate, you will be short an additional $44,000, plus interest. Would $300,000 make your life and retirement more comfortable?

Things are worse if we use comparable master's granting institutions from the AAUP data (CUPA institutions are a bit arbitrary).

Using associate professors as a middle ground (things are considerably worse for full profs), we average about $25,000 less per year.

Multiply that over a 20-year career: Your pay will be $500,000 less. Retirement will be $92,000 less, plus interest.

I have to prep for classes, so I'm unlikely to run more analyses in response to requests (unless they are too intriguing). All the data is publicly available, mostly here, through HR, or on the AAUP website.

- Jeff Elison
January 12, 2021 at 11:07am
Of course the "but what abouts" are popping up regarding my salary analysis... thanks for the interest.

Since Counselor Ed makes up 16.7% of the listed faculty, how do things look for the rest of us?
The 15 listed Counselor Ed faculty average 100.4% of CUPA. Again, this could be dependent on the comparison groups HR chose, they teach graduate courses, etc. The rest of us faculty average just under 82%.

So, updated:
- An average of 82% of CUPA for the 75 faculty not in Counselor Ed
- An average of 85.0% of CUPA for the 90 faculty positions listed
- An average of 100.4% of CUPA for the 15 faculty in Counselor Ed
- An average of 86.2% of CUPA for the 101 non-athletics administrative positions listed
- An average of 92.9% of CUPA for the 30 athletics positions listed

What's our mission again? I can't tell, does this say something about the relative importance of training athletes vs. educating students?

- Jeff Elison
January 12, 2021 at 10:01am
Dear "You Lost Me,"

I don't have enough information to evaluate the validity of your claims about Dr. Lovell's concern for the community. I'll take you at your word, especially since you are expressing an opinion. However, you really confused me with: "Please spare us the grief over what happened at the capital as if it somehow is different than the violence that happened in our own town that you said nothing about."

The two are very different. One involved sedition and an attack on democracy.

And further confused me with: "your political beliefs" and "And for goodness sake, show some class and rise above the political conversation. How about model acceptance of things you don’t like rather than just demanding people do what you tell them? Do you really think people will just change their minds because YOU tell them to. Quit lecturing and be a leader that lives it rather than lectures it."

Rise above conversations about democracy and the Constitution? Are those not your "political beliefs"? Acceptance for sedition and political violence? I'm just about a free-speech absolutist; I support the rights of the peaceful protesters (if not the content), but sedition and violence are too much. State and federal laws were broken in a way that threatened democracy - end of story.

Confused (AKA Jeff Elison)
January 12, 2021 at 9:15am
Jeff, Thank you (I think) for your analysis of the salary data provided by ASU HR department. I state this because Lovell has challenged salary analyses in the past, questioning from where the data came. And, it came from her own HR department. The results are even more grim than I had suspected. And until Lovell and company are gone, it will continue to spiral downward.
January 12, 2021 at 9:12am
Re: January 12 @ 5:34 am - You are absolutely correct in your assessment that Lovell isn't invested in our community. She doesn't give a flying flip about Alamosa, the SLV, or even Adams for that matter. What she cares about is the $3.5 million she stands to make during her 5 year contract (that will likely take her to a very comfortable retirement). She has even said, in front of Community Leaders during fundraising events, that she needed to leave to "go home". When challenged about her living just 5 minutes away, she indicated that no, she lives 4 hours away. Denver is her home. She is there whenever her work doesn't demand her be here. Don't believe it? Just drive by Marvel House any weekend starting on Friday afternoon. It's locked up, outside light shining and no sign of activity in sight.

She lost me on day 1
January 12, 2021 at 5:34am
Dr. Lovell,

Have you not also crossed the street in Alamosa where a BLM protester shot an innocent motorist in the head because he was just trying to drive? I am thoroughly disgusted by an email that blasts violence elsewhere and demands people adhere to your political beliefs when you have sat by silent over the past year while this community suffered.

Your own community has been wrought with angst and fear. Businesses that you frequent have been near death. There was not a single message during this entire time that you stand behind this community, that you support our businesses. You said nothing either way. These are the same businesses you are begging to donate to ASU. But yet here you are taking a stand on events elsewhere. Not one single time did you involve yourself in COMMUNITY conversation unless it was related to COVID logistics. True leaders do not choose to lead only when it’s easy. It’s easy to condemn the capital violence, It would have been harder to invest yourself in the community conversation.

Please spare us the grief over what happened at the capital as if it somehow is different than the violence that happened in our own town that you said nothing about.

And for goodness sake, show some class and rise above the political conversation. How about model acceptance of things you don’t like rather than just demanding people do what you tell them? Do you really think people will just change their minds because YOU tell them to. Quit lecturing and be a leader that lives it rather than lectures it.

You lost me

And P.S. a notice was sent out for the community to put together a video of why ASU is important to them. Seriously, where was your video on why the community is important to you? We sure could have used that this year!
January 11, 2021 at 6:39pm
I followed the suggestion of January 9, 2021 at 5:01pm, based on the CUPA comparison data here, which was provided by HR: (Administration) and (Faculty).

Note, that many people are well above 72.5% of CUPA because of years of experience / years in position, which CUPA does not take into account. Thus, all the averages for the groups are above 72.5% of CUPA; that being a minimum goal.

- An average of 85.0% of CUPA for the 90 faculty positions listed
- An average of 86.2% of CUPA for the 101 non-athletics administrative positions listed
- An average of 92.9% of CUPA for the 30 athletics positions listed

Faculty are the most underpaid group relative to our peers. I believe things are a bit worse for us than these numbers indicate since faculty have higher minimum qualifications in comparison to many administrative and athletic positions (e.g., advisers/recruiters, assistant coaches).

As HR pointed out: 1) some of these percentages are based on imperfect comparisons between job titles; and 2) the years in position issue. Nevertheless, which positions are (or were) the highest paid in percentage of CUPA terms? (I'm not picking on anyone, as I don't know who most of these people are.)

- 142.1% Major Gifts Officer
- 128.7% Executive Director of Foundation
- 120.8% Student Loan Counselor
- 115.7% Student Employment and Special Programs Coordinator
- 114.8% Counselor Education Clinical Coordinator
- 110.7% Senior Admissions Counselor
- 108.9% Manager of Support Services
- 106.3% CASA Coordinator / Student Advocate
- 104.7% IT Support Coordinator
- 104.4% Grant Specialist
- 102.3% Graduate Program Coordinator
- 100.7% Systems Administrator
- 90.0-99.9% There were 20 positions, including
- 90.2% President
So, 32 out of 101 (31.7%) administrative positions were above 90%

- 188.1% Associate Athletic Director & Head Coach ‐ M&W CC/Track & Field
- 132.2% Senior Associate Athletic Director ‐ Compliance/Internal Affairs
- 117.5% Assistant Coach ‐ M & W CC TR
- 114.8% Head Coach ‐ Volleyball
- 111.2% Strength & Conditioning Coordinator/Throws Coach
- 101.4% Head Coach ‐ Wrestling
- 90.0-99.9% There were 6 positions
So, 12 out of 30 (40%) athletics positions were above 90%

- 125.9% Graduate Studies - Counselor Education - Teaching Assistant
- 108.4% Graduate Studies - Counselor Education - Professor
- 102.0% Graduate Studies - Counselor Education - Assistant Professor
- 102.0% Graduate Studies - Counselor Education - Assistant Professor
- 101.1% Science Math & Technology - Biology & Geosciences - Professor of Biology
- 100.4% Graduate Studies - Counselor Education - Assistant Professor
- 90.0-99.9% There were 17 positions

So, 23 out of 90 (25.6%) faculty positions were above 90%. Fifteen of those positions were in Counselor Education; 100% of Counselor Education positions are above 90% of CUPA. Again, this may be due to imperfect comparisons ("Education General"). If these are inflated due to the comparison, then they inflate the average for all faculty, and we are doing even worse.

- Jeff Elison
January 9, 2021 at 5:01pm

Thank you for the CUPA analysis. Now look at those comparisons for administrators, especially senior level. Might knock your socks off!
January 9, 2021 at 1:54pm
Salaries are worse than I remembered. In our classes, 72.5% is usually a C, but our salaries are in the 3rd percentile (AAUP) or 2nd lowest among our CUPA comparison group (see below), which feels more like an F. Here is a one-page summary of a much longer analysis:

ASU Salary Comparison (based on the 2018-2019 AAUP Faculty Compensation Survey)

Like many institutions, ASU uses CUPA comparisons. For the last several years, ASU administration has set the bar at 72.5% of our CUPA comparison group’s average salaries across ranks. We usually offer new hires 72.5% at each rank and try to maintain at least 72.5% for current faculty. Administration sometimes claims we are doing well because some faculty are above 72.5%. However, our CUPA comparison institutions are a small subset of schools. Perhaps more importantly, CUPA and averages are just one form of comparison. Here are data comparing ASU salaries to similar institutions (all Category IIA, Masters) from the 2018-2019 AAUP Faculty Compensation Survey.

Full professors: ASU full professors average 67.1% of the AUUP average, placing us in the 3rd percentile, with only 13 institutions (out of 370) paying lower salaries. That paints a very different picture than the CUPA numbers.

Associate professors: ASU associate professors average 69.4% of the AAUP average, placing us in the 3rd percentile, with only 12 institutions (out of 370) paying less.

Assistant professors: ASU assistant professors average 77.9% of the AAUP average, placing us in the 8th percentile, with only 31 institutions (out of 370) paying lower salaries.

COLA: The AAUP survey also indicates that salaries increased 3.5% for assistant professors, 3.6% for associates, and 2.7% for full professors from 2017 to 2018. Thus, with our 2% COLA that year we fell farther behind.

CUPA & AAUP: Most of ASU’s 88 CUPA comparison institutions participated in the AAUP survey. I found data for us and 64 other institutions. Again, 72.5% of average is just one indicator. Only one institution paid full professors less than ASU. Only one institution paid associate professors less than ASU. Fourteen institutions paid assistant professors less than ASU, putting us in the 24th percentile. However, this last statistic may be misleading. ASU assistant professors averaged $55,716, but they averaged $74,880 in Business and $56,822 in Counselor Education. The remaining assistant professors averaged $48,183.

What has happened since this analysis? ASU cut their contribution to our healthcare in 2018-2019, cut their contribution to retirement in 2020, gave us no COLA in 2020, and passed the healthcare increase on to us in 2021. The facts clearly do not support the claim that salaries are a priority.

- Jeff Elison
January 9, 2021 at 12:03pm
RE: January 8, 2021 at 10:02am

I wasn't disagreeing with you, just providing my perspective on the president's email. I can see how that email might come across as self-focused or hypocritical.

Speaking of the latter, I wish administration and the Board of Trustees would stop telling us salaries are a priority. They've "been a priority" since before I arrived 10 years ago. Other than the approximately $200K that was thrown at the embarrassing sub-72.5% of CUPA problems, circa 2015, nothing has been done. We fall farther behind our colleagues at other institutions and workers in other professions by the year; occasional COLAs don't cut it. You can't say something is a priority year after year without doing anything significant about it and expect people to believe you.

Worse yet, no one buys it when our paychecks just got smaller (as a recent post mentioned - ASU should have covered the HMO increases), and they cut ASU's contribution to our retirement. The latter really accrues over time, like a 20+ year career. The vast majority of us are significantly worse off with regard to take-home pay and benefits than we were last year.

Please stop insulting us with the "priority" ruse. Doing another analysis doesn't count as addressing the problem - we know the answer, pay stinks. I've done many analyses and presented them to Senate - we have the lowest salaries in the state (public 4-year) and some of the absolute lowest in the country (bottom 3-8 percentiles). I'm happy to share the most recent document I prepared; in fact, it may be here on WA.

- Jeff Elison
January 8, 2021 at 8:02pm
Thank you 10:02AM on January 8, 2021.  I cannot disagree. The most recent post is right on.

- Dodie Day
January 8, 2021 at 3:42pm
Can someone share the president’s message? Not all of us who follow WA are still at ASU.

---- Editor's Note: We linked to it below and here it is again.
January 8, 2021 at 10:02am

Nobody is disputing the need to teach and engage our students. That is absolutely true and important for each faculty and staff to do.

What, I think, the issue with the president’s message is her self-focus — how she is all knowing about how our democracy works; her experiences giving her some level of expertise that felt a little condescending.

To take the rhetorical analysis one step further, perhaps if she was to practice what she preaches, her words wouldn’t ring so hollow—specifically civility and treating people with respect. Because she most assuredly does not do that.

I was intrigued by your pedagogical practices. Thank you for being a great professor.
January 7, 2021 at 6:38pm
Thank you Jeff, well said.

- Dodie Day
January 7, 2021 at 11:40am
I'm sure many others feel incredibly upset today, as I do. So, I appreciate president Lovell's email. I hope it went to all students. I bet many of them don't understand just how historical these events are, what a threat to democracy they represent, the importance of free speech, and the big fat red line between protest vs. sedition and violence.

I tried to balance perspectives this past semester with assignments on "The Mythology of Racial Progress" and "What is Woke," which discusses the pros and cons of woke/cancel culture. I was alarmed by how many students felt suppressing speech was desirable, including specific instances of "cancelling." To attack polarization, I showed the clip of Hawk Newsome (president of BLM of Greater NY) when he was invited onto the stage at a MAGA rally, as well as the clip of President Obama making comments critical of some aspects of woke culture. Obama's message is clear, better to reach across the aisle than "be as judgmental as possible" - "that's not activism."

I can't think of more important issues for students to consider this semester, recognizing that not all courses are suited to these discussions.

- Jeff Elison
January 7, 2021 at 10:31am
So typical of Lovell... make a national crisis about her. She’s such a narcissist. Can we toss her out at the same time we toss Trump?
January 5, 2021 at 10:22am
And why members of the board of trustees should sit in the first row during the graduation ceremony?

What did these incompetent people with small-town syndrome do for students?
January 4, 2021 at 8:02pm
Maybe Meagan Smith should be in the “Hall of Fame”? I’m sure I made ASU history in one way or another.
January 3, 2021 at 12:03pm
2020 is over! Now enjoy your smaller paycheck, reduced contribution to retirement, unfilled positions, and flattened management structure. We survived 2020 to be rewarded with more work for less compensation. Thanks, Prez and Board!

Know who else recently moved to a flatter management structure? Walmart. ASU, the Walmart of higher education. That should have been our marketing slogan for the last bunch of years. "We make education cheap for students by breaking our employees."
December 30, 2020 at 9:15am
Walters' post was disgusting, magnified by his position.

What's with all the thumbs-down for ASU's New Years video? Is it because of the way they treat employees, the terrible pay?
December 29, 2020 at 5:30pm
Who says a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can’t make a difference? Timmy-boy took down the offensive, anti-Muslim post. Nice work WA crew!
December 27, 2020 at 8:31am
The posting by Tim Walters should be sent to Senator Hickenlooper and Gov. Polis so they know who they are appointing on the board of trustees at their public universities. Can you imagine if a current or previous board member at any of the other public institutions in Colorado posted something like that? Walters responsibility to the university and to the community did not end when he left as a trustee.
December 27, 2020 at 2:28am
The posting from Tim Walters reflects how Adams State handles faculty who are not US citizens. For the few years I spent as a faculty at ASU, HR (thanks, Tracy) almost screwed up my H1B process and refused to start the green card process.

Hearing all ENDLESS talks about diversity equity, and inclusion, along with other Title V crap was especially painful. So glad I am done with this now.

Are views expressed by Tim Walters unique and uncommon in the SLV? No, they are not. The community in Alamosa is not that different when it comes to how they treat people with a different background. Maybe you don't need a university down there. Just a big ranch with horses and guns will do.
December 26, 2020 at 8:55am
Honestly, I am bewildered by Tim Walters' public post on FB. I have considered him and his wife good friends for a long time. I know his son served with distinction in Afghanistan as the personal VIP pilot to the previous President Hamid Karzai, and I proudly posted a picture of his son shaking hands with President Karzai on my FB. Tim always showed interest in my background and my family. So I don't know why he posted this? All I can say that it is much below his stature, education and background. I wish him and his family the best always and hope we will remain friends.

- S. Masood Ahmad, Director of Student Engagement & Success ASU (2008 to 2015)
December 25, 2020 at 10:15pm
I almost never post on here anymore, but let me take a few minutes to say something on this fine Christmas.

I think back on all the great people ASU's toxic culture has driven away.  People who loved Adams State, who still love the San Luis Valley, who started a family, bought a house in the area, and built a life here.  Then, through circumstances and actions painfully documented on this website and elsewhere, were driven away - some near, some far, but almost none left from a mere decade ago.  It's nothing short of tragic.

Then on today of all days, I see the grotesque public social media post (archived here if removed) by former ASU Trustee Tim Walters, whom ASU recently heralded as a member of its "Hall of Fame."

This is hate speech.  It is bigotry.  It is discriminatory.  It would easily meet the standard of review for an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission complaint.  And this kind of bigotry is not an isolated incident, as others have described here for years and years.

Yet these are the individuals ASU celebrates, lifts up, entrusts with great responsibility, coronates and memorializes?  Even as ASU actively drives away so many intent on improving the institution, upholding accountability and insisting upon academic integrity?

What about the students, faculty, and staff (past, present, and future) who see this pervasive culture of exclusion and conclude, quite rationally, that ASU claims to support diversity but nonetheless maintains a pervasive toxicity coursing through campus?

Hall of Fame?  ASU is upholding Halls of Shame, from one end of campus to the other.  And the painful truth is that everyone knows it, but too many are still entrenched in the same culture of protectionism which tolerates this kind of behavior.

- Danny Ledonne

(I have notified Tim Walters of my comment and posted this response.  Tim responded, then blocked me.  I replied from a second account).
December 24, 2020 at 9:38am
From the Chronicle Community - Our HyFlex Experiment: What’s Worked and What Hasn’t (October 26, 2020):
"I’ve been teaching college classes for 23 years, and there have been times this semester when I’ve felt less like a teacher and more like one of those circus performers spinning stacks of plates and cups on my arms and head — except in my case, there are many more drops and crashes.

What seems clear is that institutions using the HyFlex model need to find more and different ways to support faculty members than before. Hire work-study students to wrangle Zoom? Improve the integration and workflow of these various tools? At the very least, we have to acknowledge the significant burden now on classroom instructors, a burden for which very few of us were prepared."

And especially relevant for ASU -
"Faculty members cannot hide from structural racism and economic inequality any more, because our students were never able to in the first place. That is perhaps the most important lesson we’ve learned in our HyFlex semester.
But after our pandemic-induced pivot, the dramatic disparities in this area became brutally evident. We have students who:

- Share iffy Wi-Fi with other family members all trying to do some form of online schooling at the same time.
- Try to do their coursework on a smartphone, since the computers they relied on are in now-shuttered campus computer labs.
- Do not have reliable internet access at all, and attend class on Zoom while parked in the McDonald’s parking lot, hoping the restaurant’s guest Wi-Fi signal is strong enough.
- Keep their cameras off, not because they’re zoning out or playing video games during class, but because they’re crammed into a tiny apartment with the rest of their family and they’re sitting in the bathroom because it’s the only quiet place to attend class virtually.

None of those inequities are new, but the abrupt shift in modality has both exacerbated and intensified them. If all your schooling is now online, and you can’t get online, then for you, school is closed. And with the similar online shift in learning-support services, the scaffolding that many of our students depended upon — and which we told them they were entitled to and exhorted them to use — became unreachable. Covid-19 has laid bare the profound inequities in our society, from the global scale all the way down to my section of “Ancient World History.”

HyFlex classes didn’t cause those inequities, but they can reflect and intensify them. If we employ an instructional model that is dependent upon things like live videoconferencing and streaming media — without ensuring that all students are able to access their courses — we’ve committed institutional malpractice, and it doesn’t matter if we’re in a pandemic. If we are open for learning, it has to be for all our students or none. To do otherwise is to intensify the very inequities we say we want to fix."
December 18, 2020 at 3:14pm
December 18 @ 6:59 - Ok, I will engage with you this one last time. But let me bullet point it for your ease of understanding. And, I must add the caveat that I don’t know for certain if you are an employee. I’m guessing by your uninformed posts, probably not. Here goes:

1. I did not call you a racist, I called Lovell a racist. She CHOOSES to not learn how to pronounce the surnames of the Hispanic students at our institution, an HSI. I don’t know anything about you in this realm. But having observed her for two or so years, I can assure you that statement is true.

2. You call me a bully because I asked you to get your knickers out of knot. How ironic. What prompted that response from me was YOU calling me and another poster “not part of the solution... a part of the problem”. The problem (no pun intended) here is that we were bringing to light a VERY serious issue: the president’s racism. I guess everybody should do as you say, not as you do? You claim to be here [on this forum] because you thought all ideas were welcomed. Huh! Sorry I didn’t read between the lines that you meant only yours. Telling you "if you don’t like it you can leave" was my giving it right back at you. You certainly can dish it out, but you assuredly can’t take it. That’s sad, really...

3. Oh and this one is REALLY important: you know NOTHING about me or any other poster on this site to make such assumptions. You do NOT know — because again I’m guessing you don’t work in the viper pit —how awful this “leadership” truly IS. Sometimes this forum provides a much needed outlet for abused employees who are too damn afraid to speak up or out or even identify who we are amongst one another. What we don’t need is more abuse by uninformed, self-righteous folks such as yourself — hence my holier-than-thou knickers request.

Now. I’m DONE with you. Please just stop. Or someone might think you’re a harasser and a bully. And that would be “Sad really.”  Geesh!
December 18, 2020 at 6:59am
To December 15, 2020 at 7:24pm - Glad to see bullying is alive and well at ASU. I hear what you are saying. “Agree with me, or else leave”.. “agree with me or else it is racist.” I think you are nothing more than a disgruntled bully. I am here because I thought this is a forum in which all ideas were welcome. I guess all ideas are welcome as long as they agree with you. Sad really.
December 15, 2020 at 7:24pm
December 15 @ 8:02 - Get your knickers out of their holier-than-thou knot. Big difference between a cheeky play on her name that underlines how Evil she is, vs her willful ignorance. She’s been here how long? The willful inability to pronounce Hispanic surnames is simply racist...again showing how Evil she is. Perhaps if you don’t like what you read here, you can leave. Just sayin’.
December 15, 2020 at 8:02am
December 11, 2020 at 12:03pm and December 14, 2020 at 7:17pm - You are both purposely doing exactly what you are complaining about Lovell doing. She may not know how to pronounce names, that is an ignorance issue. You are purposely making last name misspelling and mispronunciation errors. Two wrongs don't make a right and you purposely making those errors, in my opinion, is worse than her ignorance. Her ignorance can be corrected. I hate when HR says "if you don't like it, you can leave." but for both of you, it may be the better option. It is obvious who is part of the problem here and not part of the solution.
December 14, 2020 at 7:17pm
December 11 @ 12:03 - Instead of president level, how about president lEvil. (Lower case L). Because she is.
December 11, 2020 at 12:03pm
Good gawd! December campus update... President Level (intentionally misspelled) can’t even pronounce last names of our staff! We are an HSI - don’t you think she’d learn to pronounce last names correctly? If you don’t know how, have your assistant help her out! Embarrassing! SMH!
December 10, 2020 at 3:38pm
Another issue is people who are working remotely don’t work. They go run errands or whatever else they do just like they did when they worked on campus. They cried about wishing they could work from home to be with their family yet they go all over town all day and if they have a deadline on something they’ll work from home until 9-10 pm thus ignoring their family anyway.

Also, regarding those four hours. If you requested that day off should you be asked to fill a leave sheet for 8 hours or just 4? It would seem unfair to fill one out for 4 in my opinion.
December 6, 2020 at 7:25pm
There is a lot of mistrust. How can we support an administration we don't trust?

- Dodie Day
December 5, 2020 at 8:32am
To December 4, 2020 at 9:27am - “Blah, blah, blah” ?? Thank you. With three words, you have summed up ASU's issues. Thank you for solidifying that perspective. You forget that those parents and students are the ones paying your salary. I know where my money will not be going.

CU and CSU offer the same degree? Wow, you really are in a fantasyland. If you think that an ASU degree has the same earning potential as a CU or CSU degree, you must be an ASU grad because I assure you that you get out of the valley and there is no where that would agree with you. ROI on a degree from CU or ASU are equal? Ha, no way. Earning potential from CSU is equivalent to ASU? You have been in the valley for way too long. ASU has tons to offer and is a great place to get an education but there is no way that they are on par with a CU or CSU. You think outside of the valley that anyone even knows where ASU is? You say ASU and 99% of the people think Arizona State, not Adams State.

I have a question... if ASU admissions and enrollment management are not contacting prospective students, what are they doing? Isn’t that the core of their job? It is not about $ it is about laziness. It is tough to make contact with prospective students from the Starbucks or Safeway. Picking up a phone and making a call is not about money. No one on campus has ever been told they can’t make a phone call to a prospective student because of money. I am guessing this is just another excuse as to why admissions can not do their job. Also, schools like Western, Mesa, Metro, Northern Colorado, CSU Pueblo all made calls too but they have so much more money than ASU? You know what they say... ignorance is bliss!

Dodie, I highly doubt that Lovell is encouraging enrollment management to not follow up with admitted students. I love that you have the protections to be able to speak your mind but those same protections make it very difficult to remove individuals that are not doing their job. Lovell is not encouraging laziness, which seems to be the real problem right now. Give me more, the gift baskets are not enough, and I will sit here and do nothing until I retire with a state pension. Come payday you and the university are even, they don’t owe any employees jack. This is not the same as HR telling people if they don’t like it they can leave, this is just people being plain lazy. Admissions and enrollment management are not doing their jobs and taking pay for it. To me, that seems like theft. They are paid to do a job and they are obviously not doing it. There are a ton of individuals at ASU doing their jobs and doing them well, but there are also a lot of employees, from top to bottom, doing the bare minimum, if that. Yes, it starts at the top but those under the top are still not doing their jobs. If people are not doing their jobs and the management is not ensuring they are doing their jobs, then it is Lovell’s job to step in and make some changes. Enrollment management/admissions is not doing their jobs. They arguably have the jobs that most impact ASU's bottom line. If there are no students, then the rest of the employees are not needed. ASU needs students and not online grad students that do not use, or pay for, all the employees that support the on campus students. If ASU changes to a mostly online model, there are a lot of people in Alamosa whom are no longer needed. Why is it that enrollment was over 3000 undergrad students not too long ago, and half that now? Enrollment management is failing miserably. But let’s not pick on them, it must be Lovell’s fault. If ASU were a private rather than public institution, there would be a ton of employees fired, but I doubt Lovell would be one of them.
December 4, 2020 at 8:25pm
I hear your concern. I hope it wasn't the School of Business. We really put a lot of effort into reaching out to our students.

- Dodie Day
December 4, 2020 at 9:27am
CU and CSU have many more resources and people, it comes down to $. I know it's 2020 and you have to reply and respond, make the students and parents feel good, appreciated, coddle them, entitle them (blah, blah, blah). Go to CU or CSU and pay double the tuition for remote learning, more $ for housing, meals. For the same degree.
December 3, 2020 at 8:23pm
Dodie, honesty isn’t “picking on” micromanaged employees. Enrollment management was a mess long before Lovell showed up... actually since Karla Hardesty assumed her “leadership” position under the McClure reign of terror. Lovell is culpable in that she allows this incompetence to continue.
December 3, 2020 at 7:22pm
Please, don't pick on those under Lovell. She is a micromanager. She makes all the decisions. We have to live with that for now.

- Dodie Day
December 3, 2020 at 11:44am
Gift baskets are not ASU's issue. They did not owe you anything. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth.

The issue is that enrollment management is failing miserably. I have a child that applied to multiple schools including ASU. They have been granted admission by all he applied to including schools like CU and CSU (early acceptance for both). Without fail, every school, with the exception of ASU, has had someone from enrollment management call and speak to them about attending their school. From ASU, an acceptance email was sent but that was it. No follow up. I see where the real problem is. I am wondering what all those people in admissions are doing. This is not “if you admit them, they will come” type of situation. There is way too much competition out there.
December 1, 2020 at 6:46pm
I believe I appreciated the 4 hours of administrative leave. What I do not appreciate is an administration, Lovell to be precise, sending out baskets with items in them that the "best use by date" is 11 days out. December 4, 2020. The very next day an email is sent out by her stating how important we are. Just a reminder, the state rescinded the 3% raises we were supposed to get. Not sure, but I don't think the majority of people received a raise. Lovell, on the other hand, is awarded a large bonus. Of course she DEFERRED a portion of it. Just saying.

- Dodie Day
November 30, 2020 at 8:01pm
Gosh Dodie,

That just seems awfully small considering all of the issues, budget and otherwise, we are facing as an institution. I appreciated that they cared enough to provide something small for everyone. Your four hours of administrative leave had a significant dollar value attached to it. I think you forgot to add that to your $10 value. Why don’t you just say “thank you” and move on.
November 24, 2020 at 7:03pm
Would anyone like to comment on the Holiday Baskets? No offense to Sodexo. It seems they had a lot of coffee and Clif Bars to get rid of. There was probably a dollar amount stipulated and they did their best. Maybe a $10.00 gift card? Just my thoughts. I do appreciate the 4 hours of Administrative Leave.

- Dodie Day
November 17, 2020 at 6:30pm
The reports also expressed concern about university students returning home on break.

"On university campuses, students are letting their guards down with Thanksgiving break less than a week away. Message to students to continue their mitigation actions on and off campus to protect others and themselves. If they are going home, they should follow CDC holiday guidelines for protective behaviors," the reports said.
November 2, 2020 at 7:01pm
If you type in COVID in search on the Adams State website the weekly update is there. Yes, it has been hard to find. I think that was addressed last week.

- Dodie Day
October 31, 2020 at 8:26pm
COVID cases are increasing exponentially in the SLV. The last 3 days have seen record increases of 21, 22, 32 cases, mostly in Alamosa county. Yet we haven't heard anything from administration, have we?
October 30, 2020 at 9:21am
Enrollment is booming, 10x: Brown believes if one of the larger Colorado universities were to go out of business, every one of the 35,000 students would likely relocate to a different university to complete their higher education experience.
October 29, 2020 at 6:48pm
So here’s an interesting little gem. It appears ASU has begun to market and sell its years of equity work, funded by Title V. Here’s the problem: Marcella Garcia is the contact for this new entrepreneurial enterprise and yet she is still working on the Title V grant that finds it.

This is illegal. Institutions are not allowed to make money from grant funds... thoughts?

Oh, and don’t get me started about her and Lillian trying to market this as a private venture a few years ago — using institutional resources, materials, and monies. Corruption much? And yes, at Arnold’s farm.
October 28, 2020 at 7:42pm
After today’s CEC meeting, my heart goes out to the custodial staff. Matt Chacon asked a question on behalf of one of the custodians and that was what was going to happen to them once the students left for the semester. Rodney chimed in, and in this faux incredulous tone, he said he couldn’t believe someone would ask that question. How dare he! How dare he try to demean his whole staff with his arrogance?

Who wouldn’t wonder in times like these about the future? It shows a complete lack of confidence in him as a leader for someone on his staff to ask someone else about their job security and Kevin Daniel needs to set him straight. Maybe he’s told them before that it would be business as usual but again, there’s no confidence in the man. Not to mention, he asked about the future of his staff at the last Zoom meeting! If any custodian feels any sort of retaliation from this, they need a safe place to address it, because they won’t have any safety going to HR!
October 13, 2020 at 11:20pm
According to the 2020-21 spreadsheet, the directors most underpaid compared to any others are: Director of AITC ($52k), Director of Counseling and Career ($56k), and Director of Activities and Rex ($51k). All of those areas have multiple components of direct retention, health and well-being of students, and at least the latter two have higher degrees and multiple areas of oversight. All are highly involved on this campus and are student advocates, but their pay is drastically lower.
October 13, 2020 at 11:02am
It looks like the largest sports revenue generating schools are also pretty top notch academically as well. I guess the revenue the sports generated has nothing to do with that.

Ranking college sports' highest revenue producers

I would like to know what directors at ASU are making between 45 and 55K, I would also like to know what those directors generate in revenue, for departments other than athletics. There are several departments on campus that are dying and a drain on the university. I think those Directors should be paid at least 100K. If you can not appreciate the sarcasm then... Just because you have a higher degree, does not mean you are better or even more qualified than someone who doesn't. Remember, 49 percent of all higher degree earners are in the bottom half of their class. Having a degree does not make you entitled to higher pay, it still has to be earned.

The athletic community adds heads to a struggling school, you want to watch ASU crumble, Get rid of the athletics since they do not generate revenue. I think there are plenty of programs on campus that do not "pull their own weight" should we be looking at them? You want to really play the blame game, take a look at all departments and see which are being funded by the rest of the school with little or no revenue generation themselves.

Listen, in a perfect world, money would not be an issue but whether you like it or not, education has to be run like a business (money coming in has to be greater than expenditures). The money has to come from some where. It is not found in that pot at the end of the rainbow. Wait, I know, rather than fix the problems we will "kick the can on down the road." That seems to be the status quo.
October 12, 2020 at 3:55pm
Absolutely it’s jealously...and also anger. How can you justify equally or more important jobs with more supervision and oversight being paid $20,000 to $30,000 lower? These are all directors on campus with Masters or higher degrees.
October 12, 2020 at 3:13pm
"if Adams State didn't have athletics, there would be no Adams State"

Whoops. Somebody just said the quiet part out loud. This is a succinct summary of what is wrong with Adams State and the NCAA's effect on higher education as a whole: the tail is now wagging the dog and the emphasis is not on how to build structurally-sound academic programs, but how to prioritize athletics to then fund academic programs as an afterthought.

Higher education isn't an entertainment factory. The best educational systems in the world, and within the USA, do not prioritize sports as the primary method of funding their campuses. So this laudatory praise for, and disproportionate funding of, Athletics at ASU. Kind of sounds like ignorance and grossly-misplaced priorities.

October 12, 2020 at 2:53pm
One picture does not tell all. I was at the golf tournament, which had a great turn out and very well ran. When people were on the patio, most were either distanced or had a mask on. Some foursomes only had 1 per cart, and it was an outside event which I believe follows the state guidelines. Find something else to complain about other than athletics, because if Adams State didn't have athletics, there would be no Adams State. The co-AD's earn every cent of their pay, probably one of the toughest jobs in the RMAC. Kind of sounds like jealously.
October 12, 2020 at 8:27am
That's because the Athletic Department is poorly run and just doesn't give a damn!
October 9, 2020 at 11:30am
It is nice to see that our Athletic Department hosted a golf tournament and posted a picture with no one wearing masks or social distancing. Spread on.
October 8, 2020 at 8:08pm
Well, there we have it. The new co-athletic directors with less time at Adams state, less experience, just earning their higher degrees- earning $75,000 each while leading the super COVID-19 spreader department on campus. No other director on campus makes anywhere near that amount, most are $20-30,000 lower salaries... many of whom are much more experienced and seniority... other levels are even more underpaid. Administration always says it’s just not true, people are paid what they’re worth here... fuck that. This is BS. There is no merit in choosing pay for anyone who is not faculty or classified, just being liked or fucking lucky.
October 8, 2020 at 7:43pm
Yes, it was confirmed today that on campus we have five more positives. Please, wear your mask, wash your hands often, and keep a 12 foot distance.

- Dodie Day
October 8, 2020 at 10:35am
One building and maybe another were sprayed for Covid yesterday it seems. They’re not saying anything about it and I’m sure more furtive actions will be taken to where not even those of us who try to put this info out there will know.
October 6, 2020 at 7:26pm
Your calculations are based on all employees being furloughed. Mine was based on the State formula, for classified employees, which seems fair to me. If there is a furlough I believe the states approach is fair and should be applied across the board.

- Dodie Day
October 6, 2020 at 12:25pm
According to the Salary info posted by WA. Keep in mind these numbers do not include anything other than salary figures (employer savings from not making retirement contributions for said furlough or payroll tax responsibilities are not calculated) Numbers rounded to the nearest dollar. Based on a 40 hr work week:

Classified Employees:
88 positions listed
$ 3,676,008 annual salary expense – Average classified salary is $41,773/year
$ 70,692 weekly salary expense (40 hr work week)
$ 1767 /hr
$ 14,138 /8 hour day furlough salary savings

Admin Employees:
127 positions listed
$ 7,077,822 annual salary expense – Average Admin salary - $55,731
$ 136,112 weekly salary expense (40 hr work week)
$ 3403 /hr
$ 27,222 /8 hour day furlough salary savings

94 Positions Listed
$ 5,382,855 - annual salary expense – Average Faculty salary - $57,264
$ 103,516 - weekly salary expense (40 hr work week)
$ 2588 /hr
$ 20,703 /8 hour day furlough salary savings

1 day salary savings for all three groupings combined is just over $62,000. For a week, just over $310,000.

Please check all my math. I am not making any judgements here, just some numbers.
October 5, 2020 at 8:56pm
Not sure what all of this "Buttercup" is about. The fact is that, if you furlough all Classified employees you are going to save less than $5000. If you take ASU police out of the equation it is under $4000. The savings comes from the president and all others who make $80,000 or more. Just saying.

- Dodie Day
October 5, 2020 at 5:50pm
----Editor's Note: We have published ASU 2020-2021 salary data.
October 1, 2020 at 5:46pm
Oct 1 @ 5:16 - Sounds like you want to have a civil conversation as long as people agree with you. I seem to have touched a nerve and it is very obvious you don’t really want a civil conversation, you want to complain. If you see a problem, suggest how to fix it, otherwise you are just a complainer.

Also, I wasn’t calling you buttercup in my initial post, I was using a common colloquialism “suck it up buttercup”. If you are not coming up with any sort of solution, you should probably get off your high horse and keep your complaints to yourself. If you really cared, you would offer up some alternatives or solutions. Again... just sayin’
October 1, 2020 at 5:16pm
Ok Buttercup

I don’t appreciate you assuming I am a faculty member. I never indicated I was. I just asked a question in my original post as to HOW that would work given faculty work—not a complaint. Maybe I’m an administrative assistant who sees that.

Again with regard to task vs time oriented, senior administration also will take their Friday’s off and still earn the same hourly rate. If you go back to the original questions in the original post I also mentioned scholarship and service in addition to teaching. The fact that you are so uninformed about faculty work that you couldn’t see a rhetorical question about cutting class 20 minutes early proves my point. And to correct your math, a faculty member who teaches 12 credit hours spends 12 hours in the classroom and COUNTLESS hours grading, advising, prepping, etc. in addition to their aforementioned work above.

So tell me Buttercup, do you spend countless hours post-toilet scrubbing helping that toilet succeed? Or do you go home at the end of your shift and forget about ASU for a while? Now I’m finished with you Buttercup. You clearly are too dense to try to learn something here, to see the original post for what is was, to engage in civil conversation for our institution. Have a really wonderful day.
October 1, 2020 at 4:56pm
Oct 1 @ 3:33 - Wouldn't administrators be “task oriented as well? And the statement about ending a class 20 minutes early, that would be the wrong place to take it. A professor teaching 12 credit hours spends 10hours a week in the classroom and that is where you want to cut your time from? Sounds like you are really in it for the students. The only person that has complained about a possible furlough is you, a faculty member. Everyone else is just talking that it may be coming. Where there are many faculty who are here for the students, I am guessing you are here for the pay check. Which, my friend, is sad because ASU does not pay that well. Yes buttercup, suck it up. I am sure if you had other options, you would have taken them by now. Just sayin’
October 1, 2020 at 3:33pm
Re: October 1 @ 6:29am - No, an hourly employee who punches a clock is not a task oriented employee. That toilet won't get scrubbed or offices vacuumed on Friday if that is a Furlough Day. But what faculty cannot do is cut class 20 minutes short to start their furlough. THAT is the difference between task-oriented and time-oriented.

It's also the difference between an hourly employee's hours will be cut but they are still making the same hourly amount. Not so for a faculty member. And, by the way, I wasn't focusing on custodial or support staff, I was thinking more along the lines of overpaid administrators. My post wasn't arrogant as much as it is INFORMED, which you clearly aren't. Seek first to understand, then to be understood. BTW, did you READ the news article about the income level that was posted? It's unlikely you or any other custodial staff make $50K+.

And, calling people names isn't helping either, "Buttercup".
October 1, 2020 at 8:14am
Re: September 30 @7:36 - I wonder how or if this will impact ASU employees paid through federal grant dollars. Seems there would have to be federal approval first.
October 1, 2020 at 6:29am
@ 6:05 9/27 - Of course a furlough is a pay cut. That is exactly what a furlough is, a pay cut to save money. Faculty are not the only ones who will have to still do the work. I think that is an arrogant statement you made. If a janitor is furloughed, the work is still there and will still have to be done. Suck it up buttercup, these are the most trying times the university has seen, it is going to require sacrifice from everyone if ASU is going to survive.
September 30, 2020 at 7:36pm
So the furloughs look to be coming for State employees so they are probably in the works at ASU, as well. Good news is that the state will be approaching it on a sliding scale with most of the lower paid employees being spared.

Mandatory Unpaid Furlough Days Planned For State Of Colorado Employees: 75% Will Be Ordered To Take Two Days Off
September 27, 2020 at 6:05pm
How do we furlough faculty? Faculty work is task oriented, not time oriented. Shall we stop research? Service? Office hours? Classroom contact hours? No, a faculty “furlough” is a pay cut—plain and simple, because the tasks or work MUST be completed.

Or maybe we can get it “deferred” like the president’s bonus. You know, when #karlaforpresident increases actual enrollment and not just dual enrollment (ie weighted student credit hours).
September 26, 2020 at 7:43pm
Furlough - the executive order states the following:

I. Background and Purpose
State law provides the leaders of the State's institutions of higher education with the independent authority to furlough nonclassified employees. Through this Executive Order, I also direct the State's institutions of higher education to furlough classified employees if needed to manage their budgets accordingly.

It seems, from the "All Campus" meetings, which have been held monthly, Adams State is doing better than expected. There should not be a reason to use furloughs to manage the budget this fiscal year.

- Dodie Day
September 22, 2020 at 8:44am
@ September 14, 2020 at 8:54pm - they probably won’t put up photos of Hispanic students to make sure none are left out. Instead they released the census and to include all Hispanic students they assigned them a number with a percentage sign afterward.

No Child Left Behind 2.0: College Edition.
September 22, 2020 at 8:36am
A new round of student quarantines must mean the positive tests are coming back from the Fri-Sun testing. Although the county numbers didn't change yet.
September 19, 2020 at 2:32pm
From the recent Colorado Public Radio News article: "Undergraduate enrollment has fallen at the University of Colorado system, the Colorado School of Mines, Western Colorado State University, and Adams State University, according to numbers provided by the Colorado Department of Higher Education.

Adams State experienced a 6 percent dip in undergraduate enrollment. The school, however, is reporting flat enrollment this fall thanks to an increase in graduate students.

Adams State expanded opportunities at its graduate schools to students who might need additional training during the pandemic, said Cheryl Lovell, the school’s president. Half of the regional university’s population in Alamosa is considered in high financial need, Lovell said.

“We knew our growth in graduate programs would not only meet workforce demand to provide highly trained, skilled advanced employees,” Lovell said. “It also provided an upward mobility for our students to advance themselves professionally.”
September 19, 2020 at 2:16pm
I would say those numbers look pretty good. Strong growth on the grad school side. Considering the current environment, ASU seems to be hanging strong. Keep it up everyone! Great stories still start here!
September 18, 2020 at 11:15am
----Editor's Note: ASU has released their Fall Census data and published a summary.
September 14, 2020 at 8:54pm
Hey, are they going to put up photos of Hispanic students for the 100th Anniversary? Just a thought. Being an HSI and all.

- Meagan Smith
September 13, 2020 at 9:08am
New York Times: "But while health officials have endorsed masks and social distancing as effective measures for curbing the spread of the coronavirus, some experts scoff at fever checks. Taking temperatures at entry points is nothing more than theater, they say, a gesture that is unlikely to screen out many infected individuals, and one that offers little more than the illusion of safety."

In one study only 44% of people sick enough that they were being admitted to a hospital had a fever. Only 30% in a larger study.

“You are maximally infectious before you exhibit symptoms, if you exhibit any symptoms at all,” Dr. Paltiel said. “You can be exposed and incubating the virus, and be beginning to shed massive amounts of transmissible virus and be a superspreader, without actually exhibiting any symptoms like a fever.”

And then there's the weather. After walking a few blocks to school, the thermometers on campus read well below 98 degrees for me. Some days it's in the low 90s. And it hasn't even gotten cold yet. Once temps are down below the 40s consistently, those thermometers will be completely meaningless.

Widespread testing this week/weekend should finally give us a real picture of where we stand.
September 12, 2020 at 7:17pm
I just want to clarify what I mean by fiasco. We are depending on Matt Chacon to solve all the camera and mic issues. He is one person and doing a great job. He cannot be in five places at the same time. He needs to be appreciated. Due to the problems with the cameras and mics the HyFlex classes have challenges for students and faculty. I do believe that we have students who are taking advantage of the HyFlex model.

- Dodie Day
September 11, 2020 at 8:42pm
I am concerned about the quality of education at Adams State. Students are supposed to be in the classroom or remote. Not happening. This is a fiasco.

- Dodie Day
September 11, 2020 at 3:29pm
I am sure you can make your donation at the Grizzly Club Golf tournament in early October.
September 11, 2020 at 6:27am
$ Adams will take your donation.
September 10, 2020 at 9:36pm
At the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, more than 40,000 students take tests twice a week for the coronavirus. We can't even get a test at ASU.
September 7, 2020 at 7:26am
Dodie, that’s because Kevin Daniel and Housing have gotten really mad at even a mere mention of the possibility of a positive case. And that’s just the side I know. Who knows who else?
September 4, 2020 at 8:23pm
I did hear today that we do have one or more cases. Just curious why I was told yesterday that we have positive cases and it was being kept quiet? That was not from administration, but faculty.

- Dodie Day
September 4, 2020 at 12:11pm
August 31 @ 3:35 pm - Well stated and that’s exactly where I’m coming from. The amount of people hat I have seen going above and beyond to curtail the spread of Covid has been too many to number and that goes from custodians to admins to professors. Many people here have taken a frontline approach in keeping us as safe as possible.
September 4, 2020 at 11:58am
Confirmed case out of Theater which means Music and McD has been compromised.
September 3, 2020 at 7:51pm
I want to apologize for my comment yesterday. I am always a little crazy but become more crazy just before Labor Day and Memorial Day.

- Dodie Day
September 2, 2020 at 10:58pm
I only moved to the valley to be closer to my sister. She lived in Moffat at the time. My niece committed suicide by shooting herself in the third eye. I am not afraid to stand up to ASU administration.

- Dodie Day
August 31, 2020 at 3:35pm
To various posts: don’t for a minute think that because we are critical of ASU that we don’t love it. Quite the contrary and exactly why we are critical of an inept, greedy administration. No, nothing is ever perfect. But if the administration valued shared governance, ASU would be a hell of a lot better than it currently is. Heather, Karla, Tracy, Ken and others who have been here too long because they are “yes” people are exactly our problem. Well... and a bully, autocratic President. The critics also love Adams State. If we didn’t, we would have left long ago, like so many of our colleagues who didn’t love it as much as us.
August 30, 2020 at 2:08pm
----Editor's Note: We have posted the August 21, 2020 memo from President Lovell regarding the Temporary Reduction in Employer Defined Contribution Pension Plan Contribution.
August 28, 2020 at 10:20am
@August 27, 2020 at 3:15pm - Thank you. I love Adams State. It's not perfect, but nothing ever is and I'm quite happy here. I can't think of a better place to work in the entire Valley. If you can, go there. See if the grass is greener on the other side. My opinion only...
August 27, 2020 at 7:56pm
Never be discouraged to comment. There are two sides to everything. Voice your personal opinion. We, as Americans, still have the right to free speech. Always refer to it as your personal opinion.

- Dodie Day
August 27, 2020 at 3:15pm
@August 27, 2020 at 8:46am - Well said, I completely agree! I only get on this site occasionally, but the more I do, the more it seems that the majority of commenters would not be satisfied no matter what is being done or who is leading. Quite frankly, it seems that most of you jumped on Dr. Lovell before she even had a chance to show what she could do here. And to be honest, it just feels like most of you are rooting for people and this university to fail. I will be the first to say that I would love higher pay, and could really use it. But so could so many others. And I will also say that I wouldn’t want several of the leaders’ jobs here. I see so many of the people who are constantly being berated and criticized here working incredibly hard every day and no matter what they do or try, it’s never enough. Not often are they thanked for doing all the above & beyonds that a lot of times are not in their job descriptions, and people are so quick to assume they know everything that is “not being done” when in reality, a lot of issues spoken about and criticized here take a lot of work, time and are regulated so much. Just because some haven’t been made aware of specifics does not mean nothing is being done. There are regulations in place and confidentiality rules that must be followed. What bums me out more than seeing the state our university is in right now, is getting on this site and seeing the way some of our employees and community members do nothing but complain and bash the school that a lot of people work really hard to keep going. Do you really think this site helps the morale or culture of our campus?? None of this helps ASU. All it does is show incoming and potential students/employees how divided this campus is and what little respect there is. Maybe all of you could stop criticizing and judging for a while and try to work toward the positive instead. Because I guarantee if a lot of you were put under a microscope, the job you’re doing wouldn’t look that great either.
August 27, 2020 at 11:25am
August 27, 2020 at 8:46am - You've articulated the classic "if you don't like it, leave" philosophy that Frank Novotny and other bad administrators have used.  The result?  Droves of faculty have left and student enrollment declined during that same period, resulting in budget cuts and job insecurity for those who remained.  Morale also declined and campus culture suffered.  The only way to have a campus where students enroll and graduate is to retain faculty and staff who are happy to be at ASU.
August 27, 2020 at 10:14am
That message was sent out to the ASU faculty. It will be a matter of time we are shut down and students will start withdrawing!
August 27, 2020 at 9:50am
A blind man could see this coming:

"Dear Adams State Community:

Out of an abundance of caution, and through direction from our local public health agency, we have made the decision to quarantine 44 individuals who were in direct contact with the person who tested positive for COVID-19. We learned this individual not feeling well came to campus despite our protocol to stay home if sick. While this is our first positive case since fall semester started this is alarming and we should all be reminded to follow our health and safety protocols.

I am sure there are a few lessons from this one positive test result. First, stay home when you are not feeling well. Everyone should inform their faculty member or supervisor (if an employee) immediately on your status. Second, at no time should anyone rearrange any furniture in classrooms or outside of classrooms. Every room has been measured and prearranged to allow the safest distance between seats. Do not remove the tape or try to use the marked off seats.

Remember the classrooms equipped with hyflex technology are specifically selected to allow a reduced number of the total class enrollment to attend in person and the remainder to attend remotely with an opportunity to switch on additional class days. At no time should the entire class be in the classroom if the number exceeds the predetermined seats. Finally, we ask everyone to reinforce the message for students or employees to stay home if not feeling well.

We can only maintain our in-person instruction and our on-campus experience for the entire semester if everyone follows our health and safety protocols. Careless, selfish, and/or reckless behavior jeopardizes each of us.

Please remember to continue your daily health self-assessment, take your temperature, wear your masks at all times, practice social distancing, and wash your hands regularly. To keep our community informed about any change in the number of positive test results, we will be adding a weekly COVID dashboard of confirmed positive cases to our website by the end of today.

Keep moving forward and keep holding everyone accountable to follow our health and safety guidelines.

President Lovell"
August 27, 2020 at 9:29am
4th day of classes: two more confirmed cases of COVID-19 in classrooms. Professors and other students exposed in large classes. Here comes the dominoes...
August 27, 2020 at 8:46am
If everyone is so unhappy at Adams, why don't you leave for greener pastures? If Adams is so bad, why stay? I get a complaint column, but this is ridiculous and as for information... the only information I've seen so far is opinion. Nothing is backed up by fact. Truth is, you all (with the exception of one person on here) have NO idea what the upper administration does on a daily basis or the shit they have to put up with. Yes, they are compensated for their experience and leadership, which is what you all are saying that you want. Better compensation. Do all of you have PhD's and years of leadership under your belt? Please... I have nothing but a high school diploma and I don't expect the same compensation as someone with a PhD and 20 years of experience. I see what goes on, I hear what goes on, is life always fair? NO, and I don't expect it to be... maybe you all shouldn't either. Talk about entitled brats... and I'm not talking about the students here.
August 27, 2020 at 6:52am
@8/26 9:29 pm - Rankism, classism? WTF are you talking about? People like you are the dividers. Always pointing out the differences between people. Divide and conquer? We have to get rid of higher ed. Rankism is at play. The professors are ranked higher than the students and TAs fall someone in between. Uh oh, you say “go to your supervisors” that is promoting and enabling rankism. Better get rid of class rank for all the graduating seniors in high school. Funny because a lot of people are say class rank is a better indicator of student ability as opposed to say, the SAT, but they are so wrong. Classism is also at play... watch out Seniors, the sophomores are coming. Sarcasm is at play here for those of you who live to be offended. Yes, I said live not love to be offended.

Work hard, that may allow you to be at a higher rank or class. Unlike race, the lines of rank and class are malleable and they can be crossed. Now that is not to say that race does not ever effect access to those different ranks and classes but that is racism not this so called classism and rankism.
August 26, 2020 at 9:39pm
It’s on a “need to know” basis. That’s how we’re being informed yet they can’t trace where those infected may have been. If it gets to the point of sending students home, we will have to stay.

You know why? So the ones in leadership in our respective departments can stay ensconced in their offices or vehicles while the rank and file get exposed to COVID more. Classism and rankism will rule the day.

For next year’s evals, don’t let them get away with low-balling you. Don’t let them get away with not signing off on a potential raise (if Compression will even be available). Don’t let them tell you the scores don’t mean a thing when every day we put ourselves at risk to be there. Don’t let them get away with sucking up your time talking about things that don’t pertain to work and putting you behind and just leaving you to play catch up. Tell your supervisors it’s lead, follow, or get out of the way. Their incompetence, laziness and sense of entitlement is a liability.
August 26, 2020 at 8:47pm
Up to 2 more COVID cases on campus. More details to come.
August 26, 2020 at 12:10am
It’s fun to see all the students on campus. However, I see them also walking around with their masks below their nose or even below the chin and walking in groups. It’s only a matter of time before we get shut down.

Parking lots look empty. Not much life on campus. I understand we are down enrollment by 12%, per the horse's mouth. But, what is the true actual count? Must be severe enough to start talking about upcoming layoffs, furloughs, voluntary separations and continued hiring freezes. Discussion to start after census day - 9/9/20.

Prez Lovell - set an example, take a free salary! Donald Trump takes no salary!
August 25, 2020 at 5:29pm
50/50 following instructions? Hardly anyone is taking their temperatures or stopping to use hand sanitizer. Directional arrows are largely ignored. I haven't seen any students wipe down a desk yet. How many profs are actually wiping down computers and podiums? About the only guideline being followed is masks.
August 23, 2020 at 8:50pm
I have a mirror just outside my office so I can see who is coming in and out. It was 50/50 on Thursday and Friday for those who followed instructions. I am very concerned about our safety.
August 22, 2020 at 8:23pm
@August 22 at 7:28 - I, too, try to be optimistic. But I have to say, this generations seems to have been raised by a bunch of self centered, rabid, wild hyenas. They have absolutely no regard for anyone but “MEEEE” and mommy and daddy defend them by suggesting they can't make adult choices yet because their frontal lobes aren’t fully developed. In the meantime, they will likely be responsible for hundreds of deaths because they just gotta party and have a real college experience.

I hope ASU kicks the little bastards out. But you know we are driven by the almighty dollar and nothing more... so... expect a catastrophe here.

August 22, 2020 at 7:34pm
August 21, 2020 at 6:36pm: Yes!
August 22, 2020 at 7:28pm
I'm an optimist, but...
COVID-19 in the quad: Colleges crack down on student parties as virus spreads across campuses

Ultimately, it all boils down to personal choices, according to Penn State President Eric Barron. "I ask students flaunting the university's health and safety expectations a simple question: Do you want to be the person responsible for sending everyone home?"

"I want you to understand right now and very clearly that we have one shot to make this happen. The world is watching, and they expect you to fail. Prove them wrong. Be better. Be adults," concluded Syracuse's Vice Chancellor Haynie.
August 21, 2020 at 8:13pm
Why didn't I speak during the comment section? This is my comment section. Every word that is spoken by President Lovell or Heather Heersink goes in one ear and out the other. Classified employees are protected. That really can annoy Dr. Lovell. People need to voice their concerns. Thank you, Danny for providing this format.

- Dodie Day
August 21, 2020 at 6:36pm
Solutions you say? Here you go:

- Stop hiring new people and paying them more than staff who’ve been here longer with more education and experience.

- Stop treating people like they don’t matter

- Stop taking all the credit for other people’s efforts

- Stop glorifying our shitty athletic teams who are currently spreading COVID, do not contribute to long term retention because they dropout or transfer (FACT), and have changed the climate of our campus since 2010 when shit hit the fan- and athletic enrollment increased.

- STOP GIVING THE PRESIDENT BONUSES, even if delayed. AND STOP GIVING HER A FREE YEAR OF EMPLOYMENT. What’s wrong with her? She is mean, micromanaging, devaluing to those around her and only hears her own voice. She faked us all her first year to get the job.

- Stop using all campus meeting to spread more b.s. without backing it up. Grizzly Relationships, my ass. This whole campus treats each other like shit and it starts from the top.

- Stop asking people to do more when they never receive accurate compensation for their first job, let alone the four others you pile on top of them.

- Stop making it impossible to offer critical feedback that is actually received and changes are made.

- Stop making excuses that our campus shit storm is COVID or Beverlee. This crap started several years ago and it doesn’t get better.

- Stop hiring people who hold higher degrees and paying them $30K.

Would you like more solutions? No, you don’t. Because they don’t matter anyway. It’s is unfortunate because students are amazing and worth way more, so are the professionals trying to serve them.
August 21, 2020 at 10:01am
@August 21, 2020 at 7:28am - Thank you, very well said! I believe everybody should be able to voice their concerns and complaints, but when does it cross into just plain whining? If some are not even going to try to be part of the solution, or offer any helpful suggestions/ideas, (Beyond The same old “fire Karla”, or cut Administration’s salaries, etc.), why get on and complain?

And as for the person who tested COVID-positive, yes, there are several regulations and requirements that ASU must abide by, and just because not everybody on campus has been given information on it does not mean it is being hidden or that administration has not been notifying the necessary parties. Do you really think administration is not trying their hardest to do everything they are supposed to be to comply with COVID regulations? Sometimes (most times), it has nothing to do with administration trying to be sneaky. There are so many rules ASU is bound by and plenty of meetings, conversations and brainstorms that take place that a lot of us are never privy to - doesn’t mean it isn’t being done.
August 21, 2020 at 9:56am
This place is still a good source of information. Maybe the “complaining” is just good information filtered through years of frustration, burnout, neglect, anxiety, etc. Maybe a sense of humanity would work well when reading posts because we don’t know what someone else has gone through. Maybe in always trying to have the right attitude before God and man and not trying to burden anyone else this place is their safe haven to be human and have feelings. Not trying to get on any kind of soapbox or make excuses for anyone because I for one can’t stand complaining and whining but sometimes I need to remind myself to take a step back. I’d rather read complaints here than to be overwhelmed with them via text, email, calls or conversations.
August 21, 2020 at 8:40am
Thank you to anyone who acknowledged the efforts and diligence Facilities Services in the meeting yesterday. It’s good to know there’s a couple people who see us as human beings and colleagues and not just human shields at best.
August 21, 2020 at 7:28am
So, just asking here but can someone please let us know exactly how Lovell is doing a terrible job? With the Bev, there seemed to be lots of examples and her actions were often perceived as questionable but with Lovell it seems more like people just don’t want any sort of leader. Leaders often have to make tough decisions and not everyone is going to like them.

Also people, remember, if the student body is not on campus, a lot of jobs are not needed. You will have less of a need in departments like housing and facilities. With no athletics, there is less of a need for all that staff. Also, wether or not we all want to admit it, ASU requires money from students to run and pay its employees. The money has to come from somewhere. Be careful for what you ask for, you just might get it.

As far as being impressed by Dodie signing her posts, I am as well. Remember though, I think she is a classified employee and as a classified employee, it is nearly impossible to get rid of them. It takes way more persistence and red tape than most of the administrators Or management are willing to do. That has why administrators try to replace classified positions with exempt positions. easier to fire an exempt employee.

I see a ton of complaining on this site but no real offers of solutions. If you see an issue and only complain but do not offer any solution, it is just complaining and does not help ASU grow or move forward in any way and you become part of the problem.

There are lots of people on campus who do their jobs and some do it very well but there are also many on campus who are just there to milk the system, so to speak.

Also, for all of those complaining about not knowing whom tested positive for COVID, have you ever heard of HIPPA, have you ever heard of FERPA? I believe there are lots of rules involving protection of student health and educational data and PII.

I tend to agree that this has become a forum to complain. This site used to provide a valuable resource and I believe it had a large part in the decline of the Bev, although she had a big part to do with that, now, just a lot of complaints with no real offers of solutions. I support your right to complain, I just wish some solutions were being offered as well.
August 20, 2020 at 11:47pm
@August 20, 2020 at 2:43pm - If this site is so negative, why come here and post about it? This seems to be the only place some of us can get information, in spite of some of the posts. As to asking questions or comments during official communications, why risk it? Adams is all about retribution and retaliation, if you ever question authority or point out a problem with procedure or policy the system comes down on you instead of the problem. I'm impressed Dodie puts her name on her posts, and I hope for a time when Adams is strong enough to let others voice their opinion without retaliation.
August 20, 2020 at 9:10pm
I know it’s not census date yet, but what are enrollment numbers right now? I’ve heard they’re down 15%. Is that accurate?
August 20, 2020 at 8:57pm
So Dodie, when there was a call for questions, comments or concerns, why didn’t you pipe up about this?
August 20, 2020 at 7:20pm
We all know from comments that COVID is on our campus. This should have been addressed during the "All Campus" meeting held today. I personally have many reasons why I do not trust Dr. Lovell.

- Dodie Day
August 20, 2020 at 2:43pm
@August 19, 2020 at 10:05am, “genitalia and obscene hand gestures...”?!? What signs are YOU looking at?? LOL, I swear, some a y’all goofy as he//. Are the signs fancy? No, not all of them, but considering the budgets some of our departments are working with, they’re doing an amazing job & I don’t see anything wrong with all the signs & arrows. I walk past a ton of them every day, they literally have zero negative impact on me, and will be helpful to some coming here for the first time or who need reminders to comply. I swear, this site spreads so much more negativity than I ever see good come from it. Is this campus perfect? Absolutely not, in fact, some here get on my damn nerves, don’t do half of the job they should be, take forever to answer and cause more problems than good. But there are so many who work their tails off here day in and day out, without a complaint and with perpetual smiles on their faces. It would do some of you well to learn a thing or two from them instead of spending your work day whining & complaining on this ridiculous site.
August 19, 2020 at 8:47pm
Please keep in mind that shit rolls down from the top.

- Dodie Day
August 19, 2020 at 12:57pm
The football player has has endangered many by not staying isolated. I ask the question again: can someone please find the open information of how much these two new Co-athletic directors are making? Kaitlynn Smith and Justin Boyd. What a job they’re doing and I can only assume at a higher pay than any other directors on this campus. The priorities at this institution are sick and twisted.
August 19, 2020 at 10:26am
Yes and he was in Rex Gym so expect it to be closed for a while. I for one will not be a martyr for this place. Especially when they don’t want to let us know anything regarding our safety.
August 19, 2020 at 10:05am
I knew of this student since Monday but I gave Kenny Marquez the chance to say who it was. It was a football player. See, these people who tell you to wear your masks, etc. don’t care about us. They cover it all up but what should I expect from a place who puts tacky arrows on the floor that look more like genitalia and obscene hand gestures than anything else. Stay classy, ASU. Western and Mesa did it better. Again, it was a football player.
August 19, 2020 at 9:33am
Looks like Notre Dame and Michigan State have suspended in-person learning. Is ASU really going to try to do this in person?
Michigan State And Notre Dame Suspend In-Person Learning Over COVID-19 Concerns
August 18, 2020 at 8:16pm
It has been confirmed, one positive test and we haven't brought students back on campus, other than athletes.

- Dodie Day
August 17, 2020 at 7:22pm
If we have confirmed positive cases, we and the community, have the right to know. Are we going to end up doing distance learning?

- Dodie Day
August 16, 2020 at 11:46pm
Fact or fiction? Did football practices get shut down due to several players testing positive for COVID-19? Heard this directly from a parent of a football scholarship awarded athlete. If so, as ASU employees, don't we have the right to know?
August 14, 2020 at 8:39pm
Did you read the paper today? The ASU BoT feel Dr. Lovell is doing a great job (my opinion, just like Trump). Agreed to deferral of a portion of her bonus. She will still get it eventually. Our raises were not deferred.

- Dodie Day
August 13, 2020 at 3:27pm
I saw the recent picture that says, “Do your part to keep Adams State healthy” and I couldn’t agree more. Let that also apply to the higher-ups and directors, as well. How? They can stay out of the way and let the people who actually do the work day on and day out continue to do so. We might not always know what’s ahead of us, but we know why we show up to work every day. Learn to trust us that we know our job and don’t need you to interject on every issue. Also, when everyone shows back up to work on campus, how about showing up to work on time - that way we don’t have everybody trying to hurry in and ignoring all the safety precautions and becoming reckless to make it to their work areas... so they can then hurry to Safeway?
August 13, 2020 at 11:33am
@August 12, 2020 at 11:47am - I would think that not having athletics might be good overall. Everyone is always commenting how athletics is such a drain on ASU. If there are no athletics, ASU is not spending money on athletics, right?
August 12, 2020 at 11:47am
Let's watch the enrollment numbers drop as Athletics is cut for the fall semester and student athletes decide "why go to Adams State if I can not participate" in his or her sport. They will maintain eligibility by attending a university closure to home and most likely one that is in better standing. They will worry about athletics when they can actually participate.
August 12, 2020 at 4:12am
@August 6, 2020 11:44 a.m. - Taking apart the cornerstone of a country, it's buildings and statuary is done by conquerors. So, when someone says get rid of a tomahawk, and people of Indian descent ask why, could it be the group wants to get rid of everything and begin with their own playbook?

The people who originated BLM are Marxists. Could it be equal power for blacks isn't their only agenda? Could it be that Antifascist groups who riot don't know what they're doing? They think they're protesting police misbehavior, but under it all, the people who are alleged to pay the rioters 1200 dollars a day, plus attorney care if they get arrested, really want something else at the end of the day? Ask George Soros, a Nazi during WW2.

---- Editor's Note: Whatever else this comment may or may not be claiming, the often-repeated slur that Holocaust survivor George Soros was a Nazi is false.
August 9, 2020 at 5:23pm
After reading the article about CSU athletes, you can bet ASU will get shut down. It will once again demonstrate that athletics comes before learning. Holding practices and athletic events puts face-to-face learning at risk for all students. Once again, ASU holds true to its mission: "Great Athletic Careers Rarely Ever Start Here."
August 9, 2020 at 10:40am
Could Adams State be next?
CSU athletes, staff say athletic administration covering up COVID-19 health threat
August 7, 2020 at 9:25pm
Those discussing convocation are not wrong, and you can thank administration. I know the orientation team had to push back hard to even have them agree to move convocation and most of orientation online.
August 7, 2020 at 3:30pm
This article doesn't mention ASU specifically but it definitely rings true:
College sports embraced reckless greed. With the coronavirus crisis, the bill has come due.
August 6, 2020 at 11:44am
@August 5, 2020 at 9:23pm - As a Native American, the fact it’s shaped like a tomahawk doesn’t offend me at all. Now I’m only going to speak for myself on this: I’m all for statues or any remnants of a history riddled with hate, racism, etc. to be taken down but again, for me the tomahawk is part of our culture so why erase that? That’s where we minorities are getting the wool pulled over our eyes in the name of political correctness. If they take our culture away, then we’re just left with White America’s ways. No, I’m not racist; far from it but I definitely don’t want some furtive way of Naturalization to take place. We can tear down barriers without sacrificing culture.
August 6, 2020 at 7:21am
If your job can be done effectively from home/off campus, then I think you should be able to work from home but how do we handle those who can not?  I mean, it is not really fair that some people are being paid to work but from off-campus, there is no way for them to do their job. They can not pay people to do nothing forever. We are always discussing CUPA and such, how much does the sitting at home position pay? Is ASU in the 80% range? I bet the people in dining and the bookstore are not able to “work from home” and getting paid for the last almost 5 months.

If ASU were smart, they would have furloughed everyone and let them file for unemployment. A lot of employees would have made more with the addition of $600 per week federal subsidy than ASU pays them.
August 5, 2020 at 9:30pm
I am looking at the comments. There is concern. I am not going to volunteer to be at a temperature taking entry point. Actually, I am offended that we would be asked. We are all putting our selves at risk just by showing up to work on campus. This is just my opinion.

- Dodie Day
August 5, 2020 at 9:23pm
Just wondering since the music building is in the shape of a tomahawk if that is cultural appropriation? Shouldn’t it be razed like the offensive statues and a new music building built?
August 5, 2020 at 7:46am
Put yourself at risk for convocation, put yourself at risk by even being on campus, put in extra hours due to COVID and staffing cuts. And by the way, we are cutting our contributions to your retirement and health insurance. Great careers end here.
August 4, 2020 at 9:28pm
Is this some sort of perverse joke?

Setup: Due to safety concerns, Convocation will now be live streamed. Convocation is still scheduled for Friday, August 21st at 11:00am. An email will be sent out with a link to access the live stream the morning of. The list of speakers includes, Dr. Lovell, Dr. John Taylor, and the AS&F President Lathen Tsalate.

Punchline: Please join the NSO Team and new students for lunch on the Campus Green directly after Convocation.
August 3, 2020 at 8:40pm
Will the new motto be "Great Superspreading Begins Here" ...?
August 3, 2020 at 3:24pm
Re: August 3 @ 9:29 - Oh, Cheryl and company won’t keep students on campus any longer than census. They just want to ensure the fall semester money. Hopefully not too many will become infected and/or die during that time.
August 3, 2020 at 9:29am
Has anyone considered the fact that they are releasing prisoners due to the dangers of COVID and transmission in an institutional environment but it is okay that students are getting ready to go back?
July 30, 2020 at 9:20pm
July 31, this is disturbing. Employees received raises? Students athletes receiving inflated scholarships? My personal opinion is that contact sports should be canceled.

- Dodie Day
July 29, 2020 at 7:40pm
Whether Lovell likes it not not, these meetings are public. No executive session announced. Whoever the hell wants to be there is legally allowed. I hope someone challenges her, legally, like Danny did with McClure. These power narcissists are unbelievable!
July 29, 2020 at 7:21pm
Why would ASU care who was Zooming in? I also noticed that the concern expressed by classified employees, from areas that need to enter student housing or working closely with them had a reply, "It will be as normal." SAD

- Dodie Day
July 29, 2020 at 6:31pm
Everyone should read the recent article posted here about Colorado universities losing money on sports!

"Coaches’ salaries increased by at least 15% at each of the schools" - which includes ASU. Coaches are getting paid 15% more and the rest of us get 2% or nothing?

"Recruitment expenses, meanwhile, increased by at least 5% at every school that was included in the audit but CSU Pueblo."

"The audit found each institution’s athletic expenses — which also include uniforms, travel, scholarships and other costs — are growing at a faster rate than the self-supporting revenue they bring in"

Who cares about an education when ASU is fulfilling its true mission - entertainment.
July 29, 2020 at 6:18pm
Dodie, at the start of one of the recent meetings, Dr. Lovell or someone asked if there were any reporters on the phone or something similar. And if so, asked them to leave since it was for employees only. I'm not defending, just passing on info.
July 28, 2020 at 7:37pm
How do you feel about today's briefing? I heard, through the grapevine, that some joining the Zoom meeting where questioned who they were. Why in the world would you question anyone joining a Zoom meeting. Are we trying to hide something?

- Dodie Day
July 28, 2020 at 12:58pm
Re: July 28 @ 9:03 - Yeah, classic Cheryl Lovell: do as she says, not as she does. Is her contract almost up yet? How much longer must we tolerate poor leadership?
July 28, 2020 at 9:03am
I don’t feel safe coming back. Most of the time, Dr. Lovell doesn’t even wear a mask. Maybe once baseball and softball resumes, she can throw out the first pitch - the same way she throws out the rule book.
July 23, 2020 at 10:28pm
The back to work agreement makes it pretty clear, if we want to keep our job, we will return to work. The guidelines can stretch out the time you are no longer employed, but in the end you loose your job. Wondering why, at least one faculty member, is being allowed to teach their load through ASO.

- Dodie Day
July 23, 2020 at 8:42pm
Dear Dodie, 

Of course! I’m terrified. I am highly immune-compromised. There appears to be NO guidance for folks like us. It seems the president just wants folks back, regardless. I can appreciate she has a large private office and bathroom. That doesn’t help me much—or you. We cannot control what folks do on their off time. They can be going to parties, bars, whatever and coming back infecting us all. Same with other students. You say you have mixed feelings. I don’t. I can tell you unequivocally, this return is dangerous at best.
July 22, 2020 at 9:04pm
Is anyone concerned about going back to work? I am back on campus and feel fairly safe. I am wearing a face mask. I am concerned about students coming back. I will turn 68 in January. Gosh, how do you all feel about being on campus? I have mixed feelings and concerns.

- Dodie Day
July 12, 2020 at 3:40pm
July 12 at 3:35pm - That reminds me of the question that Education Secretary DeVos answered so poorly: proficiency versus growth?
July 12, 2020 at 3:35pm
Regarding the recent Erasing Equity Gaps with State Funding article posted here, does anyone know if the new state formula is based on percentage for targeted groups (minorities, Pell, etc.) or the increase in those numbers? The article mentions something like "Universities will get bonus points if they improve more than other institutions" three times. If this is correct, then the new formula could penalize institutions like ASU that are currently doing well with these specific metrics. It is much easier to "improve" if you already suck. An institution with no Black students can "improve" a great deal more (and more easily) than an institution that already has 70% Black students. Politicians have been confusing this difference for decades.
July 10, 2020 at 1:28pm
I have not seen anything on the athletic website for who has been hired for the empty coaching openings or the co-athletic director spots?
July 10, 2020 at 9:05am
Is there information on how much the Co-Athletic Directors are now making? I can only guess it’s higher than most other directors based on the President’s assertion that there was a minimal cost savings.
June 19, 2020 at 7:56am
Happy Juneteenth, Adams State

- Meagan Smith
June 14, 2020 at 9:06am
The AAUP recently succeeded in convincing the Colorado Community College System to support unemployment applications for those faculty with courses cancelled on account of the pandemic or other reasons. Because this victory is underwritten by the Colorado Department of Labor and Employment, they believe this opportunity is available to all adjunct faculty regardless of institution.

However, most adjunct/contingent faculty seem to be unaware that they are most likely able to apply successfully for unemployment insurance benefits it their classes were cancelled this summer. The money (regular unemployment of a few hundred per week PLUS $600/week from the federal Pandemic Unemployment Assistance program) is much needed by them now. It can be sought even if they have not yet applied for UI, and it will be effective from the last day of spring semester and run through the end of July. The U.S. Senate may extend the program to run through the end of 2020 due to the COVID-19 2nd wave.
May 20, 2020 at 9:29pm
@May 20, 2020 at 10:21am - It’s sad for me to confirm what you said and I’m sorry it’s that way. You and every other student are the reason we have a job. Nobody communicates with us either, they hide possible COVID-19 cases from us and if anybody even suggests a possibility of a case they are severely excoriated. We have leadership focusing on if employees are carrying a bottle of disinfectant with them at all times and if one isn’t seen on their person it should be assumed no disinfectant is being used at all and one should be questioned as to the whereabouts of their spray bottle. The higher-ups are “above reproach” though. Their status makes them immune to COVID-19 apparently thus making their requirement of a spray bottle unnecessary. They’re practicing their methods of madness and totalitarianism on the few left on campus to be ready for the many upon their return. Welcome to the beginnings of a Post COVID-19 Dystopian ASU. Let me be the first to say thank you for caring enough about your future and your money to speak out. I hope “they” eventually communicate.
May 20, 2020 at 10:21am
As a student, the higher-ups need to communicate with us better. I don't know how you can have students pay thousands of dollars for them to not be told about any changes, or necessary information. Seems like nobody really cares about us, just want to take our money and run. Can't tell you how much money has been taken from me because of others' failure to communicate. Some departments are fine, but I would love to see more effort from the president.
May 9, 2020 at 3:13am
ASU’s plans to resume face-to-face instruction in Fall is a little concerning to me when they have tried their best to keep mum about Covid-19 related issues. Even just the mention of someone getting sent home due to possible symptoms of Coronavirus gets all of Housing extremely angry and in turn the one who mentions such cases gets excoriated. They put a lot of effort into keeping quiet about Covid-19 just like they did when the bedbug outbreak happened and they’re all in on it. ASU doesn’t care about their employees or the students when they cover up things and they’re very selective on whom they choose to protect. The higher ups put more effort into covering things up than they do in positive prevention yet they act as if they care about their staff.
May 8, 2020 at 4:58pm
The Colorado Conference of the American Association of University Professors has released a statement: Protecting Colorado Faculty Throughout the Pandemic
May 6, 2020 at 11:23am
Re: May 5 @ 5:45 - Interesting to see which positions/people are worth more than 72% of CUPA, especially the NEW major gifts officer. Weren’t some people forced to take pay cuts recently? This is simply sickening.
May 5, 2020 at 5:45pm
Editor's Note: We have obtained and published ASU Faculty and Administrative CUPA Evaluations for 2019-2020.
May 4, 2020 at 9:36pm
Word on the street is that Fort Lewis' president is going to reduce his own salary by 20%. I wonder if our president will do the same? At the very least, she could elect to forgo her "bonuses," but even this seems unlikely.
May 4, 2020 at 2:40pm
May 1 @ 9:13 - maybe they work part time? Maybe they are taking a vacation day? Maybe they worked until 9pm the night before? Maybe they keep 8-5 hours? Maybe we don’t know their story or what their supervisor has approved. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure there is nefarious activity, but let’s give people the benefit of the doubt. As the engine that runs this institution, we need to stick together to get through yet one more bad hire (and her minions) by the Board.
May 4, 2020 at 2:10pm
@May 1, 2020 at 8:54am - Of course they are coming, there are no students on campus and I am betting there will be very few on campus this fall. Brick and Mortar is a thing of the past. The world has changed and things are not going to be the same. Time for Adams State to either pivot or fade away. Remote learning is going to be the norm. Society has changed and traditional education providers, not only Adams, were struggling to attract on campus students even before this pandemic. Without on-campus students, the need for housing and facilities is severely impacted. The need for dorms and classrooms disappear. The food service people will not be needed either. I know they are not ASU employees but they are part of the ASU community. With the lack of on campus students, the need for things like the gym and library are also diminished. The professors and administration will be the ones left in the end. The status quo will no longer be enough people. ASU can make it but not the way it has been making it for the last 99 years.

I am also guessing it is just a matter of time before ASU students come calling for their housing and student fees to be refunded as well. It is happening elsewhere so it is just a matter of time.
May 1, 2020 at 9:13am
Why is it that work-at-home people from ASU are out shopping and running around between 8-5? Looks just like they used to go to work. Same repeat offenders.
May 1, 2020 at 8:54am
Word going around this week is that furloughs are imminent. More discussions to be had next week supposedly.
April 24, 2020 at 11:25am
And it wasn't only the coaches who took pay cuts: "The release also noted campus leaders, including University President Mark Kennedy, are taking pay cuts at this time as well." Now that's solid leadership.
April 23, 2020 at 4:24pm
Good start, CU. Adams could take a lesson.
CU AD George, coaches Dorrell, Boyle and Payne to take pay cuts
April 23, 2020 at 7:48am
Mixed messages from ASU: normally we hear sports make money; now we hear we are saving money since athletes aren't traveling. Administration wants to streamline and cut things we have been living without in this time of corona. Sports should be first. Save lots of money on coaches, trainers, facilities, scholarships. If we are online in the fall, sports won't exist anyway.
April 12, 2020 at 8:30am
I agree with April 9 5:14. How can the Board give our president bonuses when students don't have the resources they need? Students should come first. Dr. Lovell should voluntarily forego her bonuses. And yes, a 7% cut in administrative salaries would leave money for more important employees.
April 9, 2020 at 8:14pm
I am not a fan of Dr. Lovell. I think she is doing her best. On the other side of the coin, there is no excuse for not doing your job. The SUB is open and internet is available. Stop making excuses.

- Dodie Day
April 9, 2020 at 5:14pm
Just watched the campus update. Overall pretty good. But here’s a serious idea to realize cost savings and budget priorities: Cheryl Lovell forgoes any bonuses for the next two years and we cut bloated administrative salaries by 7% — let’s say anyone whose contractual base amount is $80,000 or more. Oh and I think it’s time for the president to go do what presidents do: fund raise. Leave the operations to Dr. Buchanan and Kevin. She spends too much time dabbling in the minutiae — just like Svaldi and McClure.
April 7, 2020 at 8:08am
Furlough, anyone? I heard they are coming and have already hitting other campuses.
April 6, 2020 at 10:22pm
Okay ASU “leadership,” can ya give us a directive based on the governor’s newest stay at home directive? We don’t trust your backstabbing, vindictive asses. Just sayin'.
March 29, 2020 at 7:10pm
It is amazing to me, but not surprising, that COVID-19 has highlighted all the existing inequities and exploitation on university campuses like ASU... and made them a matter of life and death.
March 29, 2020 at 6:45pm
There are those who have no choice but to show up if they want to get paid or not lose leave time. A walkout should be staged but most won’t do it. It’s always said "nobody is irreplaceable" and that’s true but their health isn’t replaceable. There’s still a lot of people showing up in buildings, especially in the evenings. Hopefully it will come to a stop.
March 28, 2020 at 5:44pm
Didn't go silent. Governor Polis put an order in place and I am following it, as is ASU. ASU has followed every order issued from the state. Working from home with an ASU computer. I prefer working from my office on campus, but appreciate all the effort by ASU to make this work so we all continue to get a paycheck.

- Dodie Day
March 26, 2020 at 6:52pm
Now that all those deemed important get to go home, this place goes silent.
March 25, 2020 at 10:17pm
Essential yet the least paid. Accommodating and dealing with every single person who violated the building closures. Being herded like cattle to work in groups. Being spread too thin by the few who keep their hands clean by staying in their offices or driving their company vehicles. They have practiced social distancing all their career out of sheer laziness and their false walls of vainglory held together by their puny yet overreaching authority. Then told by an authority figure this is how we provide for our families. How do we provide comfort for their fears of our well-being when they see we are a human shield forced to choose to lessen the risk by depleting our leave or continue to provide more money while bringing home more risk to all? When has a scorpion and a dove both thrived when being held in the same hand?
March 25, 2020 at 7:50pm
Leadership is still expecting all facilities services to show up even though the PDQs list most of them as nonessential.
March 25, 2020 at 5:22pm
Governor Polis just issued a stay at home order effective at 6am tomorrow morning. The announcement made not quite an hour ago. I cannot believe that the ASU administration haven't been having conversations about this possibility. Yet, crickets... not one word! What we wouldn't give for true leadership at this institution. So discouraging and disappointing.
March 25, 2020 at 12:47pm
It's quite clear that the President doesn't care about the employees nor the students wandering in and out of buildings.

It is YOUR job to keep everyone out of harm's way, even if they don't know better or have a life outside of this campus.

How do you do this, you may ask? LOCK DOWN THE CAMPUS, CLOSE THE DOORS TO ALL! Let us protect OUR families.

What is it that you are missing here?
March 25, 2020 at 11:30am
SLV Health was just over here at Richardson loading up hospital beds from the Nursing program in preparation and yet all over campus there are free-range students and kids roaming the halls. While nationwide we have police officers guarding tissue paper and limiting customers to one pack. Ridiculous. Why are we still open?
March 25, 2020 at 11:09am
ASU issue follows this brief excerpt from an AAUP email:
"The AAUP has put together a coronavirus information web page for AAUP members and the higher education community. We have been collecting resources from the government, other higher education organizations, and our chapters to help all of us respond to this challenge. We will continue to add to the page as new resources become available."

"As many of you know, some administrations have been leaving the faculty out of decisions pertaining to curriculum and program, online teaching and intellectual property, and the faculty role in navigating the financial impact of COVID-19 on our campuses. Faculty governance bodies and academic unions must insist on involvement in decision-making about the effects that this crisis is having on our campuses, and we will be sharing guidance from the national AAUP, as well as strategies some of our chapters have developed as they grapple with the crisis."

ASU note: Although I personally think ASU's administration has done a reasonable job of seeking employee feedback related to COVID, an issue came up at Senate yesterday. Should faculty be given the option to leave this semester's student evaluations out of retention, tenure, and promotion materials? Please share any feedback you have with your faculty senator.

The rationale for such a policy includes: abrupt change to online delivery, variability in instructors' prior experience with online, factors outside our control such as tech problems, the possibility that evaluations will be affected by the economic and physical / psychological stress related to COVID / social distancing, and affects on evaluation response rate. I'm sure you can think of other factors.

Stay positive, stay healthy! I'm so impressed by how well everyone is rallying to support our students. MVPs: AITC!!!

- Jeff Elison
March 25, 2020 at 10:54am
Why are there still students in the building on a daily basis?
March 23, 2020 at 9:38pm
Dodie, who else enters that locked building?  Who else uses that office?  Who touches the railings, door handles, bathroom surfaces?  Who all have they come into contact with?  You feel safe, but do you know who else has access to these same facilities?  Have they been tested?  Have you?  Your feeling of safety may be part of what is unsafe.  Please find a way to stay home.  Right now, we all have duties to our healthcare system, and to each other, that exceed those of our employer.
March 23, 2020 at 9:16pm
I feel very safe going to work. I cannot completely perform my duties from home. I enter a locked building. I enter a locked office. I feel very safe.

- Dodie Day
March 23, 2020 at 1:15pm
@March 23, 2020 at 7:27am - They determined that with all the people gone already they’re past the 50% necessary. They have professors coming back from California and New York and someone told me someone from Facilities might have it, as well. People are asking questions and the best answers they have gotten so far is no response at all.
March 23, 2020 at 7:27am
The Governor has ordered no more than 50% of non-essential staff to come into work. I can’t wait to see how ASU handles this! Stay tuned to Looney Tunes.
March 22, 2020 at 9:03pm
Send us home!
March 20, 2020 at 1:31pm
@ March 19, 2020 at 3:34pm - Totally agree and Plachy or any other building on campus be used as an ad hoc Boys & Girls Club.
March 20, 2020 at 1:17pm
I really wish President Lovell would take A LITERAL PLAGUE seriously.
March 19, 2020 at 3:34pm
"Adams State Nielsen Library will remain open to students and employees, but with limited hours. Your campus ID will be required to enter Nielsen Library."

Under no conditions should any library, as a social gathering place, remain open. Data points for your consideration:

Academic libraries already closed or closing in Colorado: CU-Boulder; CSU-Pueblo; UC-Colorado Springs; Auraria; School of Mines; Western Colorado; Colorado College; possibly others?

National and regional associations calling for library closure:

- American Library Association: Statement Recommending Closing Libraries (
- Association of College & Research Libraries (ACRL) (
- Association for Rural and Small Libraries (ARSL) (
- Association of Research Libraries (ARL) - no formal statement, but see growing list of closures (
- Colorado Association of Libraries: Statement on COVID-19 (

Editorials and blog posts:

- Director of MIT Libraries (
- Library Journal (
March 19, 2020 at 7:48am
This is why it is foolish for the ASU administration to believe its safe to open its doors to face to face classes at all this semester. This is exactly what the nurse was talking about in the campus wide meeting. If the “leadership” thinks that students can’t take can extended spring break and still manage their online classes, then they are more foolish than any of us believed.
‘If I get corona, I get corona’: Miami spring breakers say covid-19 hasn’t stopped them from partying

I hope Dr. Lovell stands at the entrance and shakes every one of their hands upon their return.
March 17, 2020 at 5:20pm
Some presidents put money and power before the health of those under their leadership: Trump, Maduro, ... They lack compassion. They put others at risk with their denials and slow responses.
March 16, 2020 at 10:47pm
@March 16, 2020 at 10:30 pm - I agree completely but I understand that the only language that tickles their ears is money talk. In order to be of service to the students we all should be sent home too. It’s not worth staying open just to decimate faculty and staff. People who have to go back to work under these conditions are already stressed out to the point they’re practically unapproachable never mind social distancing. The stress of being there under such conditions is creating a hostile work environment but do they care?
March 16, 2020 at 10:40pm
So far no counties in the SLV have reported coronavirus cases. Bringing hundreds of students back to the SLV after visiting home far and wide during the peak acceleration of the spread is pretty much guaranteed to bring the virus to the SLV and literally cost lives of local residents.
March 16, 2020 at 10:30pm
Dear March 16th, It's not in the best interest of humanity to reopen this semester, nevermind financially. It's irresponsible morally and ethically to reopen. In terms of our ethical obligations to students, the sooner administration makes the decision, the sooner staff and faculty can start taking the necessary steps to minimize the impact on our students' educations. Full stop.
March 16, 2020 at 6:33pm
The Dow plunged nearly 3,000 points today and it’s suggested all people stay home from school and work for the next 15 days. So is it in the best interest financially to keep ASU open?
March 15, 2020 at 6:07pm
Having to hear the president say that all students and faculty need to stay home for their safety but then saying all staff must return to business as usual is a low blow. I knew I was valued less than faculty but I mistakenly thought Adams State cared about staff, too.
March 13, 2020 at 10:50am
So those who constantly call in from work and find every excuse not to be here get rewarded. Oh, but they’ll have to work from home? I wonder if they’ll show up to work to avoid work?
March 13, 2020 at 10:44am
I like how Dr. Lovell smugly said she’s not an essential employee so she doesn’t have to be at work. You’re right about that, Dr. Lovell, this place is a snake that doesn’t need its head to survive. I just wish it was spelled “e$ential” for those who have to be here.
March 12, 2020 at 2:50pm
Why wouldn't ASU go into a strictly online delivery? I thought we had this really great Extended Studies platform that monitors delivery of education online through a multi-faceted approach of quality assurance checks and balances.
March 12, 2020 at 9:58am
The World Health Organization recommends avoiding public gatherings if at all possible. So what does Adams State do? They call a public forum to discuss Coronavirus. Unbelievable.
March 12, 2020 at 7:44am
Dear March 11th, we have nothing to worry about, we are in the best of hands: "If you know you’ve been exposed or if you exhibit symptoms of COVID-19 virus, students should immediately notify Vice President for Student Affairs Ken Marquez before returning to campus, and faculty and staff should immediately notify Tracy Rogers in Human Resources."

With quality healthcare professionals like Ken and Tracy at the helm, we safely sail into uncharted waters! What could go wrong?
March 11, 2020 at 5:50pm
Institutions of higher education are closing their doors across the nation, and now in Colorado are moving to an online format. Yet Adams State’s official response today? “It is important to repeat, however, that as of today it is business-as-usual for Adams State and the campus has not been impacted by COVID-19 at this time.”

Smart? Foolish?

1. Many individuals, if they present symptoms, don’t do so for a couple of weeks.

2. Society — including folks in the SLV — is mobile and many individuals could have traveled outside of the Valley and been exposed already or still might.

3. Dozens of visitors have come to campus and the community already, perhaps already exposing us and we don’t know it.

4. Students, as well as many faculty and staff, are going to travel for spring break and have the potential to be exposed. There appears to be NO plans to test them upon their return.

5. Students and faculty are still traveling domestically for university business and run the risk of exposure. In fact, three TSA agents in San Jose have already been diagnosed. There will be more.

6. There are many other realities of this disease we are only beginning to understand.

Smart or Foolish?

I wonder if there are costs associated with the brave moves other institutions across the nation and state have made. Of course this would impact the budget and potentially President Lovell’s anticipated bonus.

Whatever the motivations, one has to wonder about what seem to be increasingly stupid decisions.
March 10, 2020 at 7:43am
From the AAUP:

As we are learning, COVID-19 (the coronavirus) has the potential to present a serious challenge to the health and safety of our campus communities. At this time, campuses in Washington State, New York State, California, Nebraska, and elsewhere have closed or moved to all-online teaching, and a number of study-abroad programs have been cut short or suspended altogether.

Administrations are taking the potential health impact of the virus seriously, and we applaud their efforts to do so. The safety of the students, the staff, and the faculty should be everyone’s primary concern. We are hearing from AAUP members, however, that decisions to close campuses or to move to an all-online model for the short term are being made without adequate faculty involvement in decision-making. The AAUP’s 1966 Statement on Government of Colleges and Universities makes clear that “the faculty has primary responsibility for such fundamental areas as curriculum, subject matter and methods of instruction, . . . and those aspects of student life which relate to the educational process.”

In certain situations, it is necessary to close a campus or move to online instruction to safeguard the health of the campus community. Faculty and academic staff—through their shared governance bodies or, when applicable, their unions—should be consulted on how best to implement this decision. In order to ensure full participation, administrations should share information with faculty and seek input from the appropriate faculty bodies. In cases where the institution is moving to an all-online model to avoid virus transmission on campus, it is incumbent on administrations to provide all instructional faculty with the appropriate software and training. Administrations should also consider the needs and limitations of students, who may lack access to the internet or face other obstacles to completing their coursework remotely.

It is hard to know what the ultimate impact of COVID-19 will be on our campuses. The administration should provide the appropriate faculty body—the union or the governance body—with information regarding the impact of COVID-19 on enrollments, revenues, and hiring and renewals. In the spirit of the AAUP’s One Faculty campaign, we encourage our chapters to be especially sensitive to how these closures and any future curtailment of programs could affect our colleagues on full-time non-tenure-track or part-time contingent appointments.

The AAUP has developed a web page with resources on COVID-19. We will continue to update this page as new resources become available. We also ask that chapters share information with us about what is being done on their campus and what the chapter or faculty senate’s role has been in decision-making around campus closures and the implementation of all-online teaching.

In solidarity,

Rudy Fichtenbaum
AAUP President
February 28, 2020 at 5:29pm
It’s an absolute shame to watch an institution of higher learning fall prey to the same moral pitfalls plaguing exploitative major corporations. High turnover, poor treatment and compensation of staff, dissatisfied customers (students) and a downward spiral across all markers of success.

I’ve seen it before. You won’t increase enrollment with underpaid, overworked staff. You won’t increase output without investment. You won’t build a successful, thriving institution through cutbacks and austerity measures. It. Never. Works.

A sacrifice may need to be made to save Adams State, but it should be made holistically and in a way that does not disproportionately affect individuals who depend on the institution for their livelihood or education.

As a country, we are following GDP off a cliff at the expense of our planet and health. As a school, Adams State is following enrollment off a cliff at the expense of students and teachers.
February 27, 2020 at 7:41am
Because the president won't listen to input from anyone?
Because she thinks she knows everything?
Because she is so out of touch with what employees actually do? I heard she showed up at senate and tried to enlighten senators on the scholarship of teaching. 
Because her greatest financial achievement has been refinancing, just kicking our problems down the road?
Because she has failed to drain the swamp?
Because she has no empathy for employees, instead condescending to us?
Because she managed to drop our already low morale even lower?
She's doing a great job.
February 24, 2020 at 6:50pm
If President Lovell gets a bonus, the Board really isn't doing its job.
February 11, 2020 at 7:00pm
It is so wonderful to see students involved in campus culture and policy. They wrote a compelling letter. I'm sure it will garner the attention of the president and board of trustees.
February 8, 2020 at 1:05pm
I see that Counselor Education is bringing a stress management expert to ASU on February 21st.

That's great!  Will Mr. Osincup be offering individualized sessions for ASU faculty and staff being squeezed by the corporate, top-down governance model being imposed on campus at the expense of shared governance and valuing employees?
January 27, 2020 at 5:32pm
The president's request for an unranked list of pros and cons for the VPAA candidates is yet another example of declining shared governance at ASU. Were she to receive a ranked list it would make it too obvious if she ignored input from faculty and staff. Past Boards and presidents have done that at ASU's expense, for example hiring McClure.
January 23, 2020 at 8:03am
RE: 1/22 8:25 - ASU has been careening down a path of self-destruction for years, but Lovell is about to steer us over the edge of the cliff. We will never recover from the damage of a 60% tenure policy. Her decision, which no one outside of administration seems to support, will result in our revolving door of instructors spinning ever faster. Students and faculty will pay the price and she will reap the bonus. What she is doing is clear. Everyone should attend Tuesday's Faculty Senate meeting at 4:00pm, Richardson Hall 3rd floor. The president is scheduled to present her brilliant plan to make us the Walmart of Colorado higher education.
January 22, 2020 at 6:03pm
Re: January 22 @8:25 - Yet we keep on paying those ridiculous administrative salaries for no productivity or return on that investment (eg Karla Hardesty). Because, ya know, administrators are why students come to ASU. Geesh!
January 22, 2020 at 8:25am
Word on the chilly streets of Alamosa is that the Prez, who is pulling in over $300k a year, is going to cut ASU faculty to 60% tenure or tenure track. Welcome to market solutions! Instead of digging in and supporting those of us who make the institution run, they're simply going to outsource teaching to adjuncts and lecturers. What does this mean for students? In all likelihood, a reduction in quality of service. Fully time adjuncts and lectures hardly make enough to pay the bills, which means that turn over will be even higher, searchers for faculty will be constant, and the quality of instruction will suffer. The future of ASU has never looked so beak. It's worth remembering that all of this began back in 2015 when Svaldi told the presidential search committee that ASU needed a "market solution" to lead the institution forward. That advice led to McClure, who promptly directed ASU into a nosedive. Remember her idea of a brewery on the river? And now we have Lovell, who, although much more stable than McClure, seems convinced that the best way to save ASU is by becoming the highest paid president in ASU history while simultaneously reducing the cost of instruction and transferring the cost of benefits onto the backs of faculty and staff. How much worse could it possibly get?

A word of advice to job candidates interviewing at ASU, don't take the bait! Stay in grad school or keep adjuncting elsewhere while applying to jobs. But whatever you do, don't assume ASU will be a step to a big, better job. At this point, it won't be. It'll simply be a blotch on your resume that you'll never be able to remove.
January 13, 2020 at 10:21pm
Why would a school with only a 29% (maybe lower?) graduation rate not adopt proven ways to help students succeed? For example, if an online learning module is demonstrated to be easier to use and increasingly used by top institutions (Canvas), why would you insist on using something (Blackboard) that is more difficult to use? Choosing a less user-friendly user module essentially discriminates against people with light sensitivity, people of a certain age who have more challenges with online systems, and people with learning disabilities.

Anyone who has used the two systems will agree that Canvas is easier to use. What could be the rationale for using Blackboard, unless a decision-maker has personal stake?

“Blackboard was at turns frustrating, migraine-inducing, and burdensome. Which isn’t to say Blackboard wasn’t innovative. It was, back in the day. Unfortunately, that day was around 2004.”
- The Reeducation of Blackboard, Everyone's Classroom Pariah - Wired

“Canvas has unseated Blackboard Learn as the leading LMS at U.S. colleges and universities, according to new data from MindWires Consulting.”
- Canvas Catches, and Maybe Passes, Blackboard - Inside Higher Education
January 13, 2020 at 10:02pm
Why are the "Grizzlies" so grouchy? (: I feel like I stepped into a snake pit. Wish I never applied to Adams State University. Maybe it's the cold climate that makes admin so mean. Bad vibe from upper levels of mgmt.

Some of the staff seem overworked and annoyed by students' questions. Some staff and department heads are unfriendly to online students. This is a school where you can apply, register for, and drop classes all online -- without ever speaking to another HUMAN.

They are not trying to make things better for students' learning experiences. It's very IMPERSONAL, and they do not care about individual students, because they have a waiting list of other students to fill the online spaces. If you drop your classes (because of their cold, defensive, almost scary attitudes), they will make money off of you AND the next person. They have no motivation to improve their systems or communication styles because students are replaceable.
December 30, 2019 at 11:31am
To a couple recent points- As far as Karla, you forgot nepotism- how could she be fired when Ken's daughter works directly for her? And of the "$9 million increase"- how much of that is due to the horrible decision to recently refinance their debt and get cash in hand now only to totally condemn the future? Assets vs. Liabilities Chris and Heather? They are too dishonest to paint the true financial picture and the trustees are too stupid to ask the hard questions.
December 18, 2019 at 8:52am
It's wonderful to hear we are up by 9 million dollars. Now we can all get 5% raises or more.
December 17, 2019 at 8:27am
I wondered how they could justify banning men from the REX, but I never cared enough to ask. I guess the answer is they can't.
December 11, 2019 at 6:43am
Who developed the sexual harassment definitions at ASU? Was it the OEO/Title IX? I feel that office may have used overly broad definitions in the past so I was wondering if that is the case this time?
November 22, 2019 at 1:52pm
Another advisee complained to me today about their experiences with a past visiting professor. During a one year contract, visiting professors probably only teach 150-200 students. A little sub-par teaching of those students hardly matters. What was it the Senior BS Analyst wrote yesterday about excellence?
November 21, 2019 at 4:11am
Top 5 Reasons Karla Hardesty Has Not Been Fired
(Written by our Senior BS Analyst in the field)

It confused me for some time as to why Karla Hardesty has not been fired. In any other industry when that division is performing poorly, new leadership is always brought in. So why then, can a person be failing so miserably at their job, yet continue on? Here are my top 5 reasons why Karla Hardly has not been fired.

1. Nationwide trends. Since Universities across the country are facing similar issues, we can hardly blame one person at our less than prestigious University.

2. The accreditation debacle. How can we blame her when the University as a whole was making very poor unethical decisions?

3. Narcissism. The current and previous president’s share a similar behavior. They believe that they ultimately know all the answers. They do not look to other people on their team to solve big problems. They believe they alone have all the answers and they look to the people on their team to just execute their ideas. Therefore, Karla isn’t expected to solve the problems, she just needs to demonstrate she is doing what they tell her to do.

4. Problems everywhere. Enrollment has been one of many, many problems the university faces. Complaints abound from everywhere on campus. There are so many problems to solve, it’s hard to just focus in on this one.

5. Lack of stability. With all the turmoil that had occurred, leadership erroneously may believe that a public firing could bring unwanted attention. The desire to just have stability is so strong that a status quo environment ensues.

The thinking errors here pile up and give Karla Hardesty job security. This is as much an organizational culture issue as anything else. The university DOES NOT pursue excellence as a standard. It pursues stability. They have no understanding that pursuing excellence WOULD give them stability.

I would go on with what pursuing excellence would look like, but #3 exists. We already think we know. ASU needs to wholeheartedly embrace a culture of excellence. Don’t just graduate students and pat yourself on the back because they are first generation or low income. Bring them to a higher level!

Start with creating that higher within your leadership.

This boils down to one thing. Even if this is a nationwide issue, ASU needs someone in that position that can and will figure it out. Clearly, Karla is not that person!
November 20, 2019 at 8:09pm
Thank you for your feedback.

- Dodie Day
November 20, 2019 at 6:25pm
No, Dodie, it’s never too soon to worry about enrollment...especially given our drastically overall declining rates these past few years. And to suggest that you are “thinking and hoping for only a 3% drop” isn’t acceptable either. This type of nonchalant attitude is part and parcel of what got us here. This and the fact that the any growth has been in dual enrollment, where enrollment is not guaranteed over time (and pointed out in earlier comments and commentaries). But then, you are not an enrollment management expert (as Karla isn’t either). You and her are no Eric Carpio, Michelle Romero or Dr. Mumper. You are a product of your time as Frank Novotny’s secretary. Period. And everyone knows his role in the decimation of ASU.

Finally the point of my earlier comment wasn’t about whether or not spring would be salvageable, rather will ASU be salvageable once Karla is through. Stop reading into comments things and thoughts that aren’t there. It is irritating at best. At worst, well...your lack of knowledge shows. And that’s the nicest way I can put it.
November 19, 2019 at 7:16pm
Too soon to be concerned about enrollment for Spring 2020. We always lose freshmen. The students who are pushed by parents, being offered a very small scholarship to play a sport and get discouraged because they are a red shirt, or they realize they don't have the skills to succeed. This will always be the case due to our mission. I think and hope we are only down 3% Spring 2020.

- Dodie Day
November 19, 2019 at 5:16pm
Happy Thanksgiving from the prez. Oh and btw continue to do Karla Hardesty’s job. Cause, ya know, she’s so freaking competent — I mean we are potentially down 540 MORE students this spring. Seriously... when will she be fired?
November 18, 2019 at 10:41pm
In Dr. Gilmer's short time at Adams State, he spearheaded several initiatives like creating the National Center for Historically Underserved Students, advocated for the Hall of Research in McDaniel Hall, and shined some much-needed sunlight onto Extended Studies with the Mathieu Report. While not perfect and only at ASU for just over a semester before being chased out by McClure and her minions, Dr. Gilmer was eminently qualified and deeply understood ASU's mission in ways that Dr. McClure never did and likely never could.

He also didn't violate people's civil rights, publicly insult ASU's accreditor, lie countless times on impulse, and leave the institution in much worse shape than he found it.  McClure did all of those things.  It's entirely false equivocation to believe they are two figures in some comparative middle with respect to one another. That's not remotely descriptive of the reality born out by the evidence.  Such a conclusion isn't "absolutist" if it's broadly and factually true.
November 18, 2019 at 9:45pm
Regarding previous comment.

I left Adams State in 2018 and what I still cannot comprehend is that "absolute" rhetoric - quite common to the western civilization in general - that is so prevalent at Adams State. Dr. Gilmer was portrayed as a combination of every great thing that can happen - he is gay, he is eloquent, he is innovative. Ok, well, Dr. Gilmer did not do a thing - not even looked at my retention folder. And Dr. McClure - after her resignation of course - was the essence of pure evil, if you listen to some people.

Truth is that neither of these descriptions are accurate. Nor they do any good to students or faculty. Nor they are constructive.

The fact that he got an award means very little, to be honest. If you want to argue otherwise, well - Dr. McClure had quite a few of these. All faculty and administrators will acquire several awards in their professional lifetime. They mean nothing, but actions that precede them do.

I am not defending them. In the current financial situation and prior history Adams State is unlikely to attract great leaders to come and to serve in senior academic positions. So people have to learn how to deal with each other and perhaps refrain from dichotomizing people and events.
November 14, 2019 at 11:50pm
Dr. Chris Gilmer, President of West Virginia University at Parkersburg, won an award tonight for Business Leader of the Year.  Imagine what awards, recognition, and positive change Dr. Gilmer could have brought to Adams State University if he weren't run off campus, like so many others, by a corrosive workplace culture and vindictive administrators.

Dr. Gilmer is just another example of "Great Stories Begin Here... and Get Better Somewhere Else!"
November 14, 2019 at 7:47pm
I really wish someone would enlighten me and others who weren’t able to attend the all campus meeting as to what happened!?

President Lovell “learn”?!? Have you met her? She is a know it all bully. She really dislikes to be questioned, challenged or otherwise told she’s wrong. Her senior staff get that. Just ask the yes-women (and Kevin).

Conferences? Do tell! From what I understand, Lovell LOVES conferences herself. Seriously when is she here? And how much fundraising has she accomplished during that travel (which by the way costs the institution significant dollars)? Perhaps WA should do an open records request for that!

Regarding the follow up “survey”. One of the most poorly constructed instruments I’ve ever seen! I said so in my responses. And I didn’t hold back on my criticism of the “leadership” (what an oxymoron). Let’s see if I get fired. Stay tuned!
November 14, 2019 at 7:15am
The real question is what did President Lovell learn from the Great Colleges campus update meeting? Anything? Based on the categories where we fell short, upper administration should be paying close attention.
November 13, 2019 at 11:44am
My Great Colleges To Work For Survey came in this morning. Yay! A new way to silence us!!! Here’s what mine said when I clicked on the link:

"You need permission - This form can only be viewed by users in the owner's organization. Try contacting the owner of the form if you think this is a mistake. Learn More."
November 12, 2019 at 11:25am
What’s with President Lovell displaying social disparity and cutting people off during today’s All Campus Meeting?

You know where you can fix things President Lovell? Stop paying people to go to conferences which will never translate into them being more knowledgeable or productive when they get back to work. They just treat it as time off from work and real life and will resume their malingering and taking time off. Yesterday a lot of people were off. Abuse of flex time is another way ASU is being destroyed from within.
November 11, 2019 at 11:31am
Why are the names of the VPAA finalists a secret?
November 9, 2019 at 9:11am
My daughter graduated from ASU in 2015 with her nursing degree. She has had an incredible number of job opportunities, including an offer before she even graduated or passed the NCLEX. She wanted to sample different types of work and needed to move with her husband after getting married, and nursing allowed her to do that. She's worked 5 different jobs, including Director of Nursing. When she needed to move, they practically offered her the job over the phone. She and her proud father are very pleased.

I can't think of any other profs' children who have gone here, but I wouldn't necessarily know if they had. The fact that ASU is the only institution in the state that doesn't offer at least 50% (if not 100%) tuition remission for our kids does little to motivate their attendance here.

BTW, ASU's Nursing Department's NCLEX pass rates for the last two years have been 94.44% (of 18 students) and 86.36 (of 22 students), a huge increase from the 40-68% rates during 2013-2016. Way to go Nursing!

- Jeff Elison
November 8, 2019 at 7:15am
I've never been in a class with a teacher's kid. Where do ASU teachers send them?
October 25, 2019 at 6:06 am
Wow, looks like we are no longer a Teacher Ed college and are now a Business college?
October 24, 2019 at 7:24pm
Editor's Note: We have obtained ASU undergraduate/graduate department enrollment from 2015-2019.
October 20, 2019 at 6:06pm
Right there with you, 5:45pm on the 19th.

Our president didn't even acknowledge a graduate from our prison program whose parents made a sustainable contribution to ASU. There was a picture in the A Stater, no president though.

- Dodie Day
October 19, 2019 at 5:45pm
Replying to the comment from October 17, 2019 at 10:15pm - Salazar benefited from all these equity bullshit workshops. Do you need a fancy facility to talk about equity and shit? I always was surprised by the ratio of equity talk and lack of that in everyday operation of the school. It looks like they are inversely proportional. But ASU get tons of Title V support... okay, I got it.

One instance surprised me the most. One of the four finalists for the president's position was Salazar’s wife. She was obviously clueless. I still don’t get why she was chosen. Okay, maybe there are politics. But why none of the senior faculty said anything about it, is unclean to me. You are sinking your own ship.
October 19, 2019 at 5:44pm
I have been on vacation the last two weeks. Looks like numbers were released. I believe numbers should be released by department. What departments are attracting students?

- Dodie Day

-- Editor's Reply: We have filed an open records request for all ASU undergraduate/graduate department enrollment from 2015-2019. We will publish any updated information we receive.
October 18, 2019 at 7:35pm
"...We need and want teachers and scholars who would unhesitatingly come to the defense of the 'odd ball', the heretic, the dissenter, the troublemaker, whose freedom to speak and to write is under some threat from colleagues, administrators, governing board, government, or pressure groups. ...One of the most important tasks of true, freedom-and-progress-loving scholars is to come to the aid of a troublemaker under attack." -AAUP President Fritz Machlup, 1964
October 17, 2019 at 10:15pm
Speaking of the Trump administration, the White House's announcement to host next year's G7 Summit at Donald Trump's Miami resort... is right out of Arnold Salazar's playbook by personally profiting from a campus equity retreat while serving as ASU Board Chair!
October 16, 2019 at 6:40pm
The enrollment numbers are worse than expected. That must be the reason they were moved to the top secret server, or was that the Trump administration? I get confused.
October 16, 2019 at 7:40am
The "Reading Between the Lines" commentary is helpful to put the latest enrollment numbers in perspective, but the new "Fall 2018-2019 Comparison" file is much more alarming. With comparable categories, you can see:

- "Full-time" enrollment, which is probably the traditional benchmark, is down 110 students. A whopping 7.5% decline from last fall.

- Similarly "Headcount" is down 95 students, 4.7%.

- "FTE" is down 121, 6%

I guess administration can be proud of budgeting for a 5% decline and just about achieving it.
October 14, 2019 at 12:20pm
So instead of "Adams State attracts 513 new students," a more honest headline would read, "Adams State attracts 65 fewer new students than last year and 173 fewer than in 2015."  686 new freshman down to 513 is a drop of 25% in five years, folks... and still declining.
October 11, 2019 at 8:27am
Yes, very dishonest reporting. Note the spin in their press release. The headline "Adams State attracts 513 new students" is ambiguous, making it sound like they grew by 513. This gem, "Adams State’s student population mirrors national trends, where the number of students seeking graduate degrees is growing faster than the undergraduate student population," makes it sound like undergraduate enrollment grew when it actually shrank, just like the national trend.
October 10, 2019 at 3:10pm
Re: October 10 @ 1:30 - Those 236 aren’t just “undeclared” they are dual enrollment — high school students taking a course here and there that satisfy high school and guaranteed transfer requirements. A few of them will matriculate but not the majority. Yes, very dangerous (and dishonest) reporting indeed.
October 10, 2019 at 1:30pm
A few things stand out from the Fall 2019 enrollment numbers.

(1) ASU clearly wanted to hide the bad news, which is, things haven't improved and in fact, they've probably gotten worse. If this weren't true, they would have simply reported the numbers as opposed to creating new categories and stalling the release.

(2) Enrollment appears to be at 1,908 students, which is apparently up from 1,710 students in Fall 2018. BUT, that is only if you include undeclared majors in the equation. Since 2016, undeclared majors have increased from 27 to 236 but they only take an average of 4.2 credits per semester. This is a dangerous trend in a higher ed environment in which credit hours per student are the best predictor of revenue generated.

(3) If you take out undeclared majors, and simply compare enrollment of 1-4 year students, enrollment is down 8% from 2016 to 2019. That's a much more accurate way of looking at the overall picture.

(4) It's not all bad news. Although impossible to know for sure based on the way figures were presented this year, it appears that ASU's headcount is up 3% from last fall. It's likely that this isn't entirely accurate because it seems as if some heads are being counted multiple times but if nothing else, this reveals that enrollment may be stabilizing at ASU.

(5) ASU's administration continues to fail its faculty, staff and students by refusing to provide transparent numbers. This is a major problem for an institution that is ostensibly trying to regain trust on a campus that has a hard time remembering what trust means in the first place.
October 7, 2019 at 7:24am
Related to free tuition, I half jokingly pointed out at the benefits meeting that voting for Sanders could lower our growing health care costs. That applies to Warren, too. Can you imagine a prescription drug cost limit of $200/person/year (Sanders' plan)? The pharmaceutical companies are pulling in piles of cash while students and higher ed employees struggle.

- Jeff Elison
October 6, 2019 at 7:05pm
@October 6, 2019 at 10:17am - This might be a case where we should take your apparent sarcasm seriously.  Tuition-free college is the logical, policy-based extension of tuition-free K-12 schools.  For all the reasons we have public grade schools (social mobility, economic opportunity, level of education likely to be a successful individual), we should also have tuition-free college.

This isn't only an Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders idea; Governor Polis has also advocated for tuition-free 2 year college for Coloradans.  Given the population it serves, ASU and the surrounding SLV community would benefit tremendously from a tuition-free college program.  And in my opinion, Colorado shouldn't be among the eleven states spending more on prisons than on higher ed.
October 6, 2019 at 10:17am
If we give everyone free tuition, we will increase our numbers. Maybe we should institute Elizabeth Warren’s ideas now! Free tuition leads to higher enrollment. Problem solved.
October 5, 2019 at 8:24pm
Re: October 5 @ 6:51 - Yes, recruitment and retention are everyone’s job. Except Karla.

October 5, 2019 at 6:51pm
HEY! Recruitment and retention is everyone's job. So go do it. But do it without the numbers to indicate how we are doing. Operating in the dark is so much better. At least for those who want to hide the numbers.
October 5, 2019 at 7:39am
Administration can only delay the inevitable and not for very long. So ask yourself, Why bother delaying at all? My answer: They don’t want to release #’s until they’ve first figured out their plan for addressing them. It’s a form of administrative self-preservation. They must be seen to have all the answers up front, right? Reactionary decisions are being made behind closed doors right now without community input, without any dialogue. Their “solution”, hatched in isolation, will be imposed on the campus. It won’t be transformative. And it will likely involve pain (for others, not them). So the vicious cycle continues.

If I’m off base, fine. But what else is one to think? We all know that holding back numbers is not a sign of anything good.
October 5, 2019 at 7:20am
@Oct 4, 8:05am - “But community spirit is supported through trust, transparency, collaboration, and accountability; foundational components of a healthy institution that ASU just does not possess.“

That, in a sentence, is why I and so many others are no longer at ASU. Attrition isn’t just an issue with students. Dozens of faculty and staff who desired a healthy academic environment, who require trust and transparency in their daily life, and who strove to introduce the foundational components that were glaringly absent, were forced (literally) to conclude that the capacity was just not there. ASU just does not possess it.

I still ask myself why this is. I believe your above statement encapsulates the one central issue ASU must take up - earnestly - if it is to survive the rural institutional purge that is inexorably marching toward its doorstep.

I’ve been watching from afar for years now. Presidents and VPAAs come and go. Don’t see that anything fundamental has changed.

Transparency, in all its painful glory: Give it a try. Release the numbers. Then talk about them. Together. Candidly.
October 4, 2019 at 8:05am
The fact that aggregate enrollment numbers have not been made publicly available, let alone to faculty and staff, is deplorable. Shame on administration for keeping people in the dark - AGAIN! I can't help but think back to the Letter to the Editor in regards to "starting a movement". "Who wants to attend a school where the energy of the institution remains locked within the few blocks of the buildings?" - energy isn't the only thing locked in the buildings of this campus. I'm sure most will agree that they miss the "sense of community spirit". But community spirit is supported through trust, transparency, collaboration, and accountability; foundational components of a healthy institution that ASU just does not possess. Perhaps Dr. Seger or any other community member can go ask for enrollment numbers, since even public CORA requests have gone unanswered. We're all in this together right?
October 3, 2019 at 8:26pm
Word on the street is that enrollment is down between 8-11%. Tomorrow’s meeting would be a great opportunity to press for the actual figures.
October 3, 2019 at 10:32am
Hiding enrollment numbers is bad management. No trust for admin anymore, period.
October 3, 2019 at 7:53am
The top brass are worried the public will see the enrollment numbers and conclude we've failed again with recruitment and retention. They are using a divide and conquer strategy where they will only provide specific numbers to specific people and departments. That way, no one will see the big picture and we have no context for interpreting our own department's numbers. Then, they can tell us anything they want about our performance.
October 2, 2019 at 6:33pm
Dear Oct 1, 3:00pm, Yes someone has numbers, they just aren't sharing. A great example of transparency. Failure to share those numbers sets a new precedent, one that should concern us all. The daily news reminds us how much presidents like a good cover up. This definitely lowers my opinion of the current administration.
October 1, 2019 at 3:30pm
So Lovell receives bonuses for saving money. Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that she is saving money off of employees’ backs in order to line her own pocket? Case on point: the proposed employee pay for their dependents’ health insurance. Yes! This proposal is going forward. It is imperative that everyone attend Friday’s meeting!
October 1, 2019 at 3:00pm
So, are there no enrollment numbers for the fall 2019 semester? I am guessing they are bad... but does anyone have actual numbers?
September 30, 2019 at 8:02am
I'm so glad U.S. News recognized Adams for social mobility of our students. Too bad ASU doesn't provide social mobility for its staff and faculty. U.S. News refers to families making less than $50,000 as an impoverished background. Probably half the employees at ASU make less than that, so unless they have an employed spouse, they qualify as impoverished by U.S. News standards. What help does ASU offer with their kids' tuition? Zero. ASU is the only public 4-year institution in Colorado that offers no help with tuition. So much for caring about social mobility within its own ranks.
September 26, 2019 at 11:32am
Maybe the fire drill should include testing doors to see if they can be opened by children. The library seems like a death trap if a child was ever in there during a fire. The issue has been on AS&F's list, but no change.
September 20, 2019 at 6:44pm
The president is raking in the money while she plans to cut our benefits. We will see our depressing turnover rate worsen. Students will suffer.
September 19, 2019 at 8:31pm
People!!! Karla is still in charge of enrollment management. It’s simple, figures don’t lie but liars figure.

September 19, 2019 at 7:40pm
Humm, when Dr. Lovell came to visit me, she indicated that enrollment numbers would not be known until census date. Well past, probably... working on "FUSSY" numbers.

- Dodie Day
September 18, 2019 at 1:39pm
Dear September 18, 2019 at 5:45am - No, the numbers are a mystery. Danny Ledonne made a CORA request to HR, but Tracy claimed they have no such document. This in spite of the fact that Danny has requested and received those numbers for many past semesters. So much for Open Records. What might this imply? Are the numbers that bad? Has ASU administration reached a new low in transparency?
September 18, 2019 at 10:03am
The president's new contract is generous to say the least. Unless I'm reading it wrong, the president stands to make $1.67 million over the next 5 years, which works out to $334k per year. That's a massive jump from the $210k/year that the previous presidents were pulling in. It seems odd to me that her new contract hasn't received more attention, especially given the difficult fiscal decisions that the campus is collectively having to make simply to stay afloat.
September 18, 2019 at 5:45am
So have the fall numbers not been released?
September 11, 2019 at 6:53pm
Can anyone, perhaps someone who attended the Campus Update, provide an actual number for how many undergraduate students we had as of the census date?
September 9, 2019 at 9:05am
To the August 25th posters and the conversation about privacy online and paranoia - some things gather negative and reflexive reactions of paranoia, or other psychological problems, when in point of fact, Snowden and others are persona non gratis and worse for the releasing of such knowledge about spying on individuals by the govt. AND it does not stop there! Your neighbors and others can hack you without your knowledge, read all of your stuff, and take custody of your email accounts, by hacking into it and changing the password. Trust me on this: do not ever let your recovery Emails, #'s get out of date.

- Ali
September 7, 2019 at 5:30pm

I may not agree with you. I do respect your opinion. I hope that venting your thoughts and/or discuss has helped release your anger. It has helped me.

I did not blame the current Interim VPAA of anything. It was an administrative decision. That does not hold one person accountable.

If you have never worked in Richardson Hall, it is hard to understand the dynamics. Depending on who the president is, the E-Team can just be puppets on a string. They are all at-will.

We all see what is happening in the areas we are working in. Speak out. If you do not you are part of the problem.

- Dodie Day
September 7, 2019 at 1:25pm
Respectfully disagree with the assessment of Margo’s ethics. She earned her stripes in the Mean Girls Club. And while the past cannot be changed, it can and should inform the present.
September 7, 2019 at 12:10pm
Dear Dodie,

With ALL due respect, your very first paragraph is an oxymoron. To suggest we cannot completely blame one person, then suggest that people have differences about what is ethical or acceptable is simply — WOW! You are correct. We cannot completely lay the blame on Frank. After all, Dave Svaldi allowed him to get away with it and many others chose not to blow the whistle — yourself included (which brings into question your own ethics). As to what others — including yourself deem ethical — I can’t decide that for you. But HLC certainly did. The US Department of Education certainly did, as did a majority of folks on campus. (I do have to applaud your loyalty to such a schmuck as Novotny. I certainly couldn’t do it.)

As to your comment about the past: no, we certainly can’t change it. But it’s imperative to learn from it so as not to repeat it. Which, from what I glean from your earlier post, is exactly what you are claiming the current Interim VPAA of doing: putting the almighty dollar ahead of the student. Like or hate Margaret, she’s a far more ethical person than your former boss will ever be.
September 7, 2019 at 10:38am
@September 7, 2019 at 7:42am - In my opinion, it is impossible to blame one person, past or present. We all have our own views about what is ethical or acceptable.

Watching Adams provides a platform to bring attention to current issues. We can't change the past.

- Dodie Day
September 7, 2019 at 8:45am
Ken Marquez makes as much as two full professors, almost as much as three new profs! Why?
September 7, 2019 at 7:45am
Policy # 100-03-05 "Student Non-Attendance Verification"

All Academic Undergraduate policies can be found using the link below:

Under the bold heading "100-03 Academic Responsibilities - Undergraduate" you will find policy # 100-03-05 "Student Non-Attendance Verification - Undergraduate Students (PDF)"

- Dodie Day
September 7, 2019 at 7:42am
Dear Dodie,

Not to defend this administration, BUT...when you were in the VPAA office so was Frank Novotny. And Dr. No was responsible for all of our problems—academic probation, financial aid fines, fraudulent salaries, vacations to Singapore, etc, etc, etc. Sooo...I’m just sayin’. The shit show has been going on for a very long time. And the VPAA under whom you worked taught everyone else how to commit fraud.
September 7, 2019 at 6:55am
Senate should review the incident Dodie describes. It is a clear intrusion into the domain of faculty. 

Dodie, you are fearless!

September 6, 2019 at 8:50pm
This one is hard to believe: On the census date, a student, who has never attended one class, has had no interaction with the faculty member teaching the course. They are dropped from the course. The following day, administration determined they were to be added back into the class. It would affect their financial aid. This is a prime example that the dollar is more important than the student.

When I was in the VPAA office, the faculty member decided if a student who had never attended class could remain in the class and succeed. Administration only approved the facility recommendation. The concern was for the success of the student, not the dollars.

- Dodie Day
September 3, 2019 at 9:59pm
Dodie! Karla is never going to provide accurate figures. Has anyone looked into what goes on in admissions?  Figures don't lie but liars figure.

August 31, 2019 at 10:55pm
Speaking of cuts, it appears Leslie Cramblet Alvarez will be cutting and running soon.  Heavens!  How many Mean Girls are even left?  How did that whole "Standing Strong for President McClure" posture work out?
August 31, 2019 at 3:09pm
Yes, I remember the many comments by Dr. Lovell. "Can't Cut Yourself to Success" was one of them. "550 new students, 550 new students, 550 new students," over and over again. Karla stated we didn't quite make it. When will we hear the truth?

- Dodie Day
August 31, 2019 at 9:46am
Brace yourselves for the Oct 4th benefit rate discussion. Take home pay is about to drop. We will be given several shitty options and "discuss" which is least painful. They will justify cutting our benefits because ASU can't stay afloat if we don't make more cuts, blah, blah. The Board gives us a raise and administration will reduce benefits to where we are worse off than last year. Is it any wonder we can't retain employees and properly serve our students? So many people have left that Student Support Services can't come close to the service it used to provide. Do I remember someone saying we can't cut our way to success? Cuts take many forms and ASU is hemorrhaging.
August 30, 2019 at 12:17pm
As I was looking at salary information for 18-19 I noticed there is no dollar amount listed for the Vice President of Academic Affairs. Was there a reason for this? I also noticed that salary information was not listed for 19-20 for the position of Professor in Teacher Education. Both of these positions held by Dr. Joaquin Vila. It would be interesting to see what the salary was for him as the VPAA, total payments made to him in July and his salary as a professor of Teacher Ed. Just curious to see if he was paid some sort of settlement.

- Dodie Day
August 27, 2019 at 7:07am
Selective justice is alive and well at ASU.
August 26, 2019 at 7:30pm
Don't worry about the cameras. The School of Business had over $150 in items taken and we have cameras throughout the building. ASUPD couldn't see anything.

- Dodie Day
August 26, 2019 at 7:11pm
Karla Hardesty? That is JOKE, right?
August 25, 2019 at 7:00pm
@ 8/25 10:02 - Its not paranoia. Ask Russel Shawcroft, he loves to record conversations on his cell phone.

August 25, 2019 at 11:18am
@August 25, 2019 at 7:43am:

Although I get what you are saying you miss the point that many are just being exploited through surveillance and a lot of it has to do with who their supervisors are. Paranoia isn’t even a factor in my previous post it has everything to do with being aware. I understand socialism and all the byproducts but this has nothing to do with socialism in and of itself. Most of the people doing the bullying, watching and exploiting don’t even understand what socialism is. Some people get away with ridiculous measures of insubordination, etc. while another person can’t even get away with taking a breather for five minutes. They don’t even like it when people have friends outside of their departments. 

People who repeatedly do things they should get written up for don’t. It’s all about creating a subculture of subterfuge and fear. Department heads telling us not to trust our supervisors. Supervisors telling us not to trust the department heads. Look at all the buildings with cameras then look at the people who go and talk to the people in charge of said cameras and the camaraderie between them and you will see who is watching whom and it’s not just people who work under them.
August 25, 2019 at 11:01am
Hey August 25, 2019 at 7:43am - You sound super confused so I'll help you out.  You assure us that Adams State isn't watching people, then you assert that big tech companies are doing much more surveillance. Then you complain about government "socialism" having more control. But ASU is "socialism" (as a state school) and big tech (Amazon, Facebook, Google, Instagram, Snapchat) are private companies!  So you have your thesis and your examples exactly inverted.

Whether we agree with your analysis or not, public universities are government entities whereas tech companies are private organizations. Plus, nobody is forcing you to subsidize social media companies, but your tax dollars already help to pay for public schools... so you have a material interest in how they are run and whether or not they violate your Constitutional rights.

One more thing: "if you are not doing anything wrong, who cares?"  Do you hold this view about cameras in your bathroom and bedroom? This is the kind of reasoning that causes people to forfeit their Fourth Amendment rights to begin with.  Individuals have and should maintain some expectation of privacy and, at minimum, a notice when they are being recorded so they can choose to discontinue that interaction.
August 25, 2019 at 10:02am
@August 24, 2019 at 2:28pm - Yes they are. ASU PD is also being used by the higher ups as “heavies” as well to intimidate people. The newer the officer, the more of a “heavy” they are.
August 25, 2019 at 9:29am
Please tell us more about the surveillance: who, how, where. I've had a few experiences that have made me suspect ASU is over the line with invading employees' privacy.
August 25, 2019 at 7:43am
8:24 @2:28 - You sound so paranoid. Do you really think they are watching/listening to you? Why would they waste their time watching you? What are you doing that makes you so worried about them watching? Just an FYI... In the private sector, you usually are watched. Walk down the street in Denver, you are being watched. I don’t think any one is watching you or cares what you are doing but, if you are not doing anything wrong, who cares? There is a digital footprint of almost everything you do both inside and outside of work and I guarantee you, you are watched far less at work than you are in your off time. Amazon, Facebook, Google, Instagram, Snapchat, those are the ones watching, not ASU. The airlines are installing cameras in the seat backs to watch you. Heck, the title of the webpage is “Watching Adams” You are being watched and quite honestly, get ready to be watched more and more. An unfortunate side effect of socialism and the government having control of more is that they will also have to watch more so get ready because when we win, there is going to be more, not less. You are correct... 1984... it is all about control.
August 25, 2019 at 6:36am
Dear Dodie,

I think Dr. Lovell’s visit to you was a threat in and of itself. She visits no one else on campus, other than her minions in Richardson Hall. She keeps those folks around because she can bully them into submission. Those she can’t bully into submission she bullies in other ways. Let’s see what she has in store for you.

She is Dr. MClure in a different sheep’s costume.
August 24, 2019 at 6:13pm
I have thought about this throughout the week. I have shared it with a few on campus. Is it a threat, warning, or just random? The following link was sent to two people. It was from Dr. Lovell, the same day she came to visit me. In the subject line: (FYI), in the body only the link:
Abolish the Business Major!

- Dodie Day
August 24, 2019 at 2:28pm
Higher enrollment is not the main focus of ASU; it’s surveillance. You’re being watched, people. There’s people listening in on your conversations, everything. People watching camera footage in their offices, at home, etc. You’re being spied on, preyed upon through the camera eye and exploited. It’s 1984 at ASU. They’re watching the rank and file mostly. Don’t even trust the privacy of your offices to make sure your fly isn’t down. It’s sick.
August 24, 2019 at 10:05am
In a previous comment, I suggested we should drop the evening class experiment or do a better job of marketing them (because I have yet to hear about a single community member enrolling for these classes). Now I'm teaching a "themed course" which I love, and I think the theme idea is great. However, polling students in my section and another, a very small percentage (10-15%) had any idea they had registered for a themed course or that themes existed.

I'm sure part of the problem is because many in my class are first-year students. I also believe word will get out over the years as more students have experience with themed courses. Nevertheless, I'm curious about whether there is a plan to communicate / market themes, themed courses, night classes, Saturday classes. These are desperate times, enrollment and retention are everyone's job... but they are some people's jobs more than others.

- Jeff Elison
August 23, 2019 at 8:15am
It looks like the Board learned something from the Beverlee McClure fiasco and beefed up Dr. Lovell's contract in case they have to fire her, too. This contract is more specific about what ASU pays if the contract is terminated under various conditions.
August 22, 2019 at 6:10pm
It would be interesting to look at how much bad debt there is. If the bad debt is in a program that has revenue sharing, the dollars are taken from the revenue sharing budget to cover the bad debt. Not many programs have revenue sharing to pull from.
August 22, 2019 at 5:46pm
August 22 at 4:40PM - You are 100% correct. I have stated more than once we are doing a disservice by admitting students who need to take developmental courses. Those students would be better served by a community college. Does ASU care about the student or the dollar?
August 22, 2019 at 4:40pm
August 22, 2019 at 8:41am – Your “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” perspective is well-taken but doesn't fully capture the systemic problem of which Adams State is a part.

We all know ASU has some of the lowest graduation rates in Colorado and in the entire country.  It has been named a “drop-out factory” in national studies of higher education.  The college math requirement is among the reasons – in no small part because ASU accepts students who weren't ready to begin with and then has insufficient and/or ineffective resources to close the skills gap.  And yes, K-12 school districts also share some of the blame here because many high school graduates leave with a diploma (and sometimes at the top of their class), yet are not prepared for college level work in many areas - according to ACCUPLACER testing.

But this attitude of “it's not our problem, it's your problem” is a fundamental mistake for anyone working at ASU to make.  If the school is going to survive as a relevant and viable rural university, it must work with the student population it has.  If ASU cannot reasonably accommodate students to help them meet the requirements to attain a degree (within four years or six years), it has no business admitting those students to begin with.  When so many students drop out of the university after ASU recruited and enrolled them, the failure isn't merely that of the student but also of the institution itself.  By the numbers, ASU is setting up the majority of its students for failure... and deflecting the problem back onto the students it serves is a losing proposition for everyone.
August 22, 2019 at 8:41am
8-21 @5:54 - College is not for everyone. Maybe TSJC for some remedial math work if you are not at a college level. Making the classes easier only diminishes the value of your degree. I question if the college classes are too difficult or were your High School classes too easy? It is not the professor's fault that you are not at that level yet; they are just teaching to where you need to be. The tutoring is available so the only one here to blame is you and the lack of time you put into that help. If you are not ready for college, then do the extra work to get yourself ready. You are the one in charge of your education. 

I think the professors at ASU are one of its best attributes. I think most of them do a pretty good job and they care. I struggle to believe that the resources made available to you, for math, are not enough.
August 21, 2019 at 5:54pm
The math department is terrible. We need to clean it out like they did with the education department. The teachers seem to take pride in making their gen ed level classes hard to pass and don’t understand that not everyone has a doctorates in math. If you can’t get rid of these terrible teachers, make math available for a year long course rather than just a semester. Tutoring can only do so much, and these classes have so much content that not all students can keep up with. This needs to be fixed.
August 21, 2019 at 7:31am
I attended all the Campus Updates, but I was unaware that an occupied position was eliminated. What does the general fund have to do with it? Don't those jobs count? On a similar note, meaning hiding stuff, there was no mention of enrollment numbers at the all-campus meeting last week. I believe that's a first. The rumors aren't good, maybe that's why.
August 20, 2019 at 8:29pm
No offense to Dodie, but I find it somewhat politically obtuse for the president to be on the defensive with an administrative assistant, especially knowing it would be reported out on this website. I wonder who exactly she is trying to convince about her “honesty”? Seems a little McClure-like.
August 20, 2019 at 1:09pm
President Lovell came by my office today with a printout that was used at several of the "Campus Updates" which listed a $45,000 amount. Our conversation was professional and respectful. She stated that this was the eliminated position. Out of respect to the person holding the position details were not given at the "Campus Updates" In the President's opinion, she did not lie. For those who attended the "Campus Updates," were you aware that an occupied position was eliminated? The eliminated position was not paid from the General Fund. People interpret things differently and the truth falls somewhere in the middle.

- Dodie Day
August 18, 2019 at 11:20pm
Re: August 18 @ 6:59pm - For advice on how to properly and effectively teach too many students in one class, go see Ellen Novotny. She’s infamous for teaching hundreds at a time while earning $142,000 per year doing so. What, you say? You’re not being paid near that? Well, I guess your hubby isn’t demanding such (nor being held accountable). Good luck!

It’s a brave new world at ASU.
August 18, 2019 at 6:59pm
Can anyone shed light on what the class capacity can be for an on-campus adjunct? I taught years ago and when there was a certain number, they were required to split it into 2 sections. This is ridiculous!
August 14, 2019 at 7:05pm
No, administration will not cancel the classes because they are committed to offering them. I also would like to mention that, although the ASU president stated several times that no positions were cut, she lied. I know of one position that was cut in the School of Business.

- Dodie Day
August 14, 2019 at 8:01am

RE: August 13, 2019 at 8:12pm

My understanding is that evening classes are an attempt to attract community members, not a bad idea. We offered PSYC 101 last semester during the evening. Not a single community member enrolled and enrollment was much lower than a normal daytime class - like 12 vs. 35-45. I talked to a couple of other profs who taught evening classes and they said they only had traditional students. We should chalk this up as a failed experiment and quit doing it, or we should identify what needs to be done to make it work, like marketing evening classes effectively.

- Jeff Elison
August 14, 2019 at 6:42am
Dear Dodie,

So will the upper admin require the class be cancelled given all of the new policy decisions that put money before students?
August 13, 2019 at 8:12pm
I am still in awe that it was mandated, from the top, that we had to offer ECON 201, our only Gen Ed class, one night a week. The enrollment is 8. If offered during normal school hours, there would be a full class.

- Dodie Day
August 12, 2019 at 5:05pm
Just wanted to give a heads-up on the online Masters in Cultural Resource Management program. There's ALOT of nonsense going on and they are losing lots of staff and up until about 3 weeks ago they only had the program director for 5 programs teaching the CRM program. Lots of upheaval, disgruntled master's students and I myself have transferred to a different program and have chosen to eat the money I lost with their ineptitude in hopes that my wasted time, money, and income potential can be salvaged in the long run. The program is in shambles.
August 11, 2019 at 4:27pm
@August 10, 2019 at 6:22am - Facilities Services has not had good leadership in years. Last year, they got a new director and were put under Housing. How discouraging for one department to go through so many changes year after year only to get a new director in Wade Smith only to hear how many trips they’ve paid for him or how many times they paid to have his wife flown in then see him drive 1/8 of a mile into work in a brand new Jeep with all the bells and whistles only to turn around and get rid of it to buy matching vehicles for wifey and he while many of FS have to work multiple jobs to survive. The man has no knowledge whatsoever to run FS and was merely Del Tondo’s pull-string doll. He worries more about collared shirts than he does about the FS personnel standing under a tree by a crosswalk just talking for an hour. 

Now under Kevin Daniel, there’s always hope of positive change. Will it happen that way? Maybe so... maybe not... Will FS also have to answer to people like Chris Olance, Pat Roybal, Tony Maestas?
August 10, 2019 at 8:55pm
@August 9, 2019 @ 8:33pm - Why even state that here and sign your name to it and then become secretive as to why you think that? Also then act like whoever asked why you have that opinion may or may not be worthy to know why?

I don’t know if Lovell is a loose canon or not, but it’s yucky to come on a forum and tarnish a person's character and not think you have an obligation to explain yourself.

If there’s something wrong, state it. Otherwise, you appear as the problem.
August 10, 2019 at 8:24pm
Just saw the Director of Financial Aid position posted on the employment website. Does anyone know what happened to Phil? Has he retired?
August 10, 2019 at 6:22am
I am really curious about the current restructuring...Facilities will be moved out of Student Services and into a new Unit that will be called Infrastructure and Resources, under Kevin Daniel in Computing Services. He will also supervise HR. If Kevin Daniel is this great leader, more than just CTO, then change his title & make sure that no one assumes two big departments - least of all HR - are under "computing services."
August 9, 2019 at 8:33pm
If you want an answer to my comment, you can find me in the School of Business at Adams State University. If I feel you are a person I want to speak with, I will.

- Dodie Day
August 9, 2019 at 6:57pm
Kathy Rogers was required to step down by her new boss. Why do you say Lovell is a loose canon?
August 8, 2019 at 8:38pm
Aaron Abeyta is leaving ASU too?
August 8, 2019 at 9:15am
ASU H.E.A.L. (Higher Education Always Lacking)
August 7, 2019 at 9:33pm
If there IS a HEAL program.
August 7, 2019 at 7:50pm
Dr. Lovell is a loose cannon. Morale is at a low. The BoT gave her a fantastic deal. 5 years, one year sabbatical, and come back to be tenured in HEAL. We need to take a vote of no confidence. Kathy Rogers is jumping ship and Cleave Simpson is stepping down as chair so he can just leave when his term is done. Oh yay, we are screaming.

- Dodie Day
August 7, 2019 at 12:55pm
That’s because ASU treats the promoting of people of color like gentrification.
August 7, 2019 at 10:08am
Once again a person of color doesn’t get a promotion in Facilities Services.
August 2, 2019 at 6:24pm
Re: July 26 @ 9:02 - Because Heather Heersink and Tracy Rogers are incompetent. And I’m beginning to believe our new prez is too for keeping those two around. But I’m sure she has her $250k/year contract for 5 years (that’s the word on the street).
July 26, 2019 at 9:02am
Can anyone explain why ASU is incapable of getting us our yearly contracts on time? It's not like the date is a moving target.
July 2, 2019 at 7:23pm
Maybe I'm being too sensitive, but when you are looking into coming to a college, does everyone get your personal info? I think it's in bad taste to spread people's business everywhere. Social media makes it too easy for a few words to get everywhere.

- Lilac Girl
June 13, 2019 at 9:26am
It looks like McClure and ASU got off easy for calling Ledonne a terrorist in the Valley Courier:

"A federal judge awarded a Muslim-American radio host $4.1 million in monetary damages Wednesday after he successfully sued a neo-Nazi website operator who falsely accused him of terrorism."  Neo-Nazi website hit with $4.1 million defamation penalty
May 29, 2019 at 7:43pm
Yes, five, a revolving door. Unfortunately the two best either didn't want it or were chased away by the wicked witch of the southwest.
May 28, 2019 at 5:01pm
Soooooo... Is that five VPs in as many years? I’ve lost track.
May 18, 2019 at 12:14pm
Go ASU chess team
May 17, 2019 at 5:00pm
How unbelievable that the BoT didn’t learn their lesson with McClure’s multi-year contract. I don’t know if it’s more infuriating or sad. SMDH...
May 17, 2019 at 10:25am
This whole site is Libel

----Editor's Response: While it doesn't appear you have a very strong understanding of how libel laws actually work, you are certainly free to file a lawsuit and see what a judge thinks about your claim that a public interest website publishing news and opinion about a state university and its employees is engaging in libel.  The ACLU of Colorado was well aware of this website while representing Danny Ledonne and defended his First Amendment right to publish critical information about the university's administration. But perhaps you have a command of U.S. libel law that exceeds the ACLU? There's only one way to find out...
May 7, 2019 at 10:04pm
The Management Corner: Stop Silencing the Skeptics
May 6, 2019 at 8:08am
Looking at the Faculty CUPA data posted here makes one problem apparent: moving goal posts. We would expect average comparison salaries to go up, but what happens when they go down? It makes it look like people's percentage of CUPA increased when in fact their salary is unchanged. Faculty in that situation probably won't get raises for even longer now. Has this affected you?
March 31, 2019 at 5:14pm
Congratulations to Danny Ledonne for being accepted into a whole list of law schools. Now he can continue to protect the world from the likes of Beverlee Trump.
March 28, 2019 at 6:56am
Re: March 27 @9am - One cannot defend incompetence, greed or corruption.
March 27, 2019 at 9:00am
Anyone notice that no one is defending Heather Heersink, Karla Hardesty, or Tracy Rogers? The real question is what connection do they have to the trustees? Why do the trustees feel comfortable with ASU operating in such dysfunction?
March 15, 2019 at 9:41pm
March 15 @ 11:29am - I would reframe your assessment of “no cuts this fiscal year” as “no additional cuts...” I believe many, if not all, of the cuts Nehring implemented WERE for this current fiscal year. But, you are correct. Expect cuts effective July 1, August 1, September 1 and October 1 – depending on your contract type and funding source.

But the idiots like Karla, who couldn’t recruit her way out of a paper bag, will keep her position, salary AND $5k+ raise for non-performance. Idiots like Heather Heersink, who couldn't compute her way out of a paper bag: same, except her $16k raise. Idiots like Tracy Rogers, whose “alliance” with Novotny got us into this mess to begin.

If Lovell doesn’t start figuring it out soon... heaven help us all!
March 15, 2019 at 11:29am
So, the hidden message from the campus updates is that staffing cuts won't be done this FISCAL year, but will happen in the Fall. It is dependent on State funding as well as the expected enrollment drop off for new students, but anyone who believes that cuts aren't on the agenda need to listen more closely. This administration has repeatedly said, "No cuts this year", conveniently leaving out that they mean the fiscal year. Withholding information is exactly the same as lying.
March 5, 2019 at 6:09am
A new position that reports to the president has been created called the Chief Gifts Officer that is in charge of bringing in large dollars from donors.

I am noticing the direction Dr. Lovell is taking... creation of new programs and more aggressively going after donations.

I think these methods are a much better strategy than starting crazy fights with community members. The only thing I’d sure like to see is addressing the ineffective people in admissions/enrollment. Surely she must have plans to address this?!
March 2, 2019 at 8:15pm
Regarding a recent publication in Courier: Faculty Trustee Dr. Robert Benson said morale among faculty had jumped significantly for the most part after the selection of a new president. “That was huge,” he said.

I have the following questions to Dr. Benson: 
- What measures of morale were used? 
- What research design was used? Pre and post? Ex post facto? 
- At what level significance was tested? 

If Dr. Benson feels he cannot provide answers, maybe he can answer this question using his personal empiricist perspective: 

- What was the significance of him holding a sign "Standing Strong for Dr. McClure" in 2016? 

That was huge. Indeed, Rob.
March 1, 2019 at 7:31am
Can we please stop using the term "cautious optimism" to describe ASU? It's such a veiled way of saying "we don't know what the hell is happening or how to fix it but we're going to smile all the way to end!"
February 28, 2019 at 7:47am
I think the "zero-sum" article in the Colorado Sun is the most hopeful thing I've ever read for Adams State since our enrollment started to decline in 2012. The unfairness of the funding model for Adams State and Fort Lewis is mentioned three times. The author understands our mission and our plight:

"The state’s largest schools are growing. Small schools are shrinking. And because the formula is enrollment-driven, it’s resulted in more money for selective research universities, such as the CU Boulder and Colorado State University, and less for community colleges and smaller rural institutions, such as Adams State University and Fort Lewis College, which predominantly serve the populations the state wants to help."

"The situation is one that lawmakers have tried to mitigate through year-to-year budget adjustments, stepping in to boost funding to smaller schools like Adams State and Fort Lewis.

But Morris, the higher education official, says overruling the formula every year defeats the purpose of having one in the first place. In an ideal world, state officials want colleges to have a stable, transparent and predictable revenue stream."

Trouble is, about 90 percent of the money the state gives out through the funding formula is based on student volume, according to a Lumina Foundation Strategy Labs study. That means enrollment changes at larger schools like CU Boulder, which has more than 29,000 students, play a much bigger role in how dollars are divvied up than what’s happening at a place like Adams State, which has just 2,600 students."

The fact that Colorado is 47th in the country for higher ed funding is embarrassing and depressing. However, it sounds like President Lovell's and Adams State's greater presence in Denver may be paying off.

- Jeff Elison

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