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March 15, 2019 at 9:41pm March 15 @ 11:29am - I would reframe your assessment of “no cuts this fiscal year” as “no additional cuts...” I believe many, if not all, of the cuts Nehring implemented WERE for this current fiscal year. But, you are correct. Expect cuts effective July 1, August 1, September 1 and October 1 – depending on your contract type and funding source. But the idiots like Karla, who couldn’t recruit her way out of a paper bag, will keep her position, salary AND $5k+ raise for non-performance. Idiots like Heather Heersink, who couldn't compute her way out of a paper bag: same, except her $16k raise. Idiots like Tracy Rogers, whose “alliance” with Novotny got us into this mess to begin. If Lovell doesn’t start figuring it out soon... heaven help us all!
March 15, 2019 at 11:29am So, the hidden message from the campus updates is that staffing cuts won't be done this FISCAL year, but will happen in the Fall. It is dependent on State funding as well as the expected enrollment drop off for new students, but anyone who believes that cuts aren't on the agenda need to listen more closely. This administration has repeatedly said, "No cuts this year", conveniently leaving out that they mean the fiscal year. Withholding information is exactly the same as lying.
March 5, 2019 at 6:09am A new position that reports to the president has been created called the Chief Gifts Officer that is in charge of bringing in large dollars from donors. I am noticing the direction Dr. Lovell is taking... creation of new programs and more aggressively going after donations. I think these methods are a much better strategy than starting crazy fights with community members. The only thing I’d sure like to see is addressing the ineffective people in admissions/enrollment. Surely she must have plans to address this?!
March 2, 2019 at 8:15pm Regarding a recent publication in Courier: Faculty Trustee Dr. Robert Benson said morale among faculty had jumped significantly for the most part after the selection of a new president. “That was huge,” he said. I have the following questions to Dr. Benson: - What measures of morale were used? - What research design was used? Pre and post? Ex post facto? - At what level significance was tested? If Dr. Benson feels he cannot provide answers, maybe he can answer this question using his personal empiricist perspective: - What was the significance of him holding a sign "Standing Strong for Dr. McClure" in 2016? That was huge. Indeed, Rob.
March 1, 2019 at 7:31am Can we please stop using the term "cautious optimism" to describe ASU? It's such a veiled way of saying "we don't know what the hell is happening or how to fix it but we're going to smile all the way to end!"
February 28, 2019 at 7:47am I think the "zero-sum" article in the Colorado Sun is the most hopeful thing I've ever read for Adams State since our enrollment started to decline in 2012. The unfairness of the funding model for Adams State and Fort Lewis is mentioned three times. The author understands our mission and our plight: "The state’s largest schools are growing. Small schools are shrinking. And because the formula is enrollment-driven, it’s resulted in more money for selective research universities, such as the CU Boulder and Colorado State University, and less for community colleges and smaller rural institutions, such as Adams State University and Fort Lewis College, which predominantly serve the populations the state wants to help." "The situation is one that lawmakers have tried to mitigate through year-to-year budget adjustments, stepping in to boost funding to smaller schools like Adams State and Fort Lewis. But Morris, the higher education official, says overruling the formula every year defeats the purpose of having one in the first place. In an ideal world, state officials want colleges to have a stable, transparent and predictable revenue stream." Trouble is, about 90 percent of the money the state gives out through the funding formula is based on student volume, according to a Lumina Foundation Strategy Labs study. That means enrollment changes at larger schools like CU Boulder, which has more than 29,000 students, play a much bigger role in how dollars are divvied up than what’s happening at a place like Adams State, which has just 2,600 students." The fact that Colorado is 47th in the country for higher ed funding is embarrassing and depressing. However, it sounds like President Lovell's and Adams State's greater presence in Denver may be paying off. - Jeff Elison
February 27, 2019 at 7:21pm Meanwhile, back at ASU... Karla Hardesty is still in charge of enrollment. Why? Why? Why?
February 27, 2019 at 7:13am As Roger pointed out, tenure at ASU doesn't mean much. After researching ten schools and national guidelines, ASU has the weakest protections for tenured faculty I could find. Our Faculty Handbook falls far short of the joint guidelines published by the AAC&U and the AAUP. Unlike those guidelines and most institutions, ASU's Faculty Handbook does not require that financial exigency be declared before administration can fire tenured faculty. At some schools and entire state educational systems, once financial exigency is declared, tenured faculty can be dismissed only if entire programs are scrapped. These policies are to prevent cherry-picking, where administrators can choose to fire professors they don't like. Similarly, most schools and the AAC&U / AAUP guidelines require some sort of "jury of your peers" when dismissal for cause is invoked. Not ASU. If the president decides there is cause (outlined in the Handbook), then the president can fire you. You may appeal, but the Board of Trustees selects three people to potentially handle the appeal. You would rule out one, the president would rule out one, and the remaining person handles the appeal. The "for cause" part protects us to some degree, but cause can be subjective. HLC even has criteria related to this issue: 2.C.4 The governing board delegates day-to-day management of the institution to the administration and expects the faculty to oversee academic matters. I brought this to the attention of Faculty Senate over two years ago. A committee was formed to investigate dismissal policies and make recommendations. We did that, making 18 recommendations about what a new policy should include. Senate asked for a draft policy. I did that. Senate voted to drop it. Two tenured faculty members were fired a year later. ASU has embraced the AAC&U VALUE rubrics, but not their guidelines to VALUE faculty. The horse may be out of the barn, but there are still a lot of us horses left inside. Perhaps seeing our peers fired could motivate Senate to re-visit the issue? Unless you think you are less worthy than faculty at CU, CSU, UNC, Western, Colorado Mesa, and Fort Lewis, I encourage every faculty member, regardless of status, to speak to their senator about this problem. We may never see our salaries reach 90% of CUPA, but let's move ASU into the modern age by bringing our protections up to parity with our peers and in-line with national guidelines. That's not a radical idea or an unreasonable goal. - Jeff Elison
February 26, 2019 at 1:20pm As a casual reader of these posts, I was shocked to see the way that Roger Eriksen was released from his ASU tenured 2017 contract and his above posting of 2/26. As chair of the Art Department I hired Roger in August of 2002 after a January faculty resignation that was delivered to me on a Friday of the same month. After the receipt, I sent the appropriate job vacancy announcement to the dean of the college on the following Monday. The search was difficult and long, and Roger thankfully accepted a position several days before the August start of Fall 2002 classes. He did an excellent job teaching, being a supportive colleague and was respected by the students in the classes that he was assigned to deliver. When staffing art faculty members, Graphic Design instructors are one of the most difficult to recruit and then agree upon a salary. They are often restricted in budgetary matters and can usually make more money in the private sector. As for ASU as a state supported regional rural institution, many issues come to bear. Faculty turnover has been a regular occurrence for many years, state fiscal support has ebbed and flowed and is impacted by a peculiar fiscal mandate of the state of Colorado. Declining enrollment is surely a problem, and if it reaches 1000 students or less, the institutional survival options are usually slim and grim. Of course, Adams is reflection of the community that it mirrors and serves as it should. As Roger moves on, the sting of this separation lessens; I have had appointments at Baylor University, Central Texas College-and even sometimes substitute teach in the local school system. I wish him the very best. - Todd Turek
February 22, 2019 at 5:00am Re: Feb 18 @ 5:20pm - The photo in the Valley Courier is a warning to all other institutions about who NOT to hire!
February 18, 2019 at 5:20pm Did anyone notice Karla Hardesty in the front middle in the Valley Courier article on Lovell losing interim off her title? Frankly, I might have given her bad directions so she didn’t make it for the photo. Seriously, this university cannot move on with her track record of failure in that position. It will be interesting to see if Lovell will make any changes now that interim is off her title.
February 15, 2019 at 5:06pm Correction to my earlier post: That was only for exam #1; I haven't analyzed other data. As someone else wrote, it shouldn't be a surprise to faculty. It's consistent with tons of studies on spaced-practice vs. massed-practice (cramming). I think the more important point is that we shouldn't make such a decision without putting learning first and basing the decision on data. There must be tons of data on campus like mine where the same prof teaches the same course MWF vs. T/Th. When I get around to it, I'll look at more of my data. - Jeff Elison
February 15, 2019 at 2:35pm It should come as no surprise to most faculty that students learn best from shorter, more frequent classes than from longer, less frequent classes. If ASU truly cares about improving academic performance, including retention and graduation rates, the idea of moving to a four day school week should be a non-starter.
February 15, 2019 at 7:01am I won't comment on athletics vs. learning as priorities, but the Paw Print has a good point: "In departments such as math and science that require practice and repetitions with the material in the classroom setting, as well as lots of material to cover, only meeting twice a week could potentially be tough." (What is the author implying about Mass Comm?) I teach Intro to Psych Statistics which is largely math, and psychology is a science, so the course is a pretty good exemplar. Over the last 9 years there has been a statistically significant difference between grades in MWF classes and TTh classes (N = 11 sections). This in spite of the fact that I use the same, or nearly identical tests and the TTh classes have 50% longer to take the test! Those results support the conjecture that students learn more when they meet 3 times a week, and they are counter evidence against the conjecture that traveling on Fridays decreases learning. The latter is probably a challenge that does affect some athletes; however, I've seen highly motivated athletes miss an entire week for nationals and come back, make up the work, and earn high grades. So, obviously we should switch to a MWF and T/Th/Saturday schedule ;-) Or athletes who aren't going to compete could stay home and attend class. - Jeff Elison
February 14, 2019 at 5:50pm So apparently departments within ASU are openly admitting that athletics are a higher priority than academics. The Paw Print recently published Four-Day Week Proposition Draws Mixed Opinions: "The Mass Communications Department is the first to adopt a shortened school week, with there being classes only Monday through Thursday and all three-credit periods are an hour and fifteen minutes. The proposition came from department head Aaron Abeyta, who pushed for the shortened school week because of the amount of student athletes at the university who travel for athletics on Fridays." Now imagine a world in which the NCAA and athletics directors push for only holding games on weekends and within close geographic proximity so student athletes wouldn't have to miss class to participate in sports? When the tail wags the dog long enough, it becomes difficult to identify which end is really in charge.
February 13, 2019 at 7:52am All over campus I see posters on doors, walls, etc. that “Hate Has No Home Here”, etc. and that’s great. We should expect no less. But to great lengths despotism is practiced, as is the sense of entitlement, classism, nepotism and if Richardson Hall gives themselves enough raises ASU will become a plutocracy. Ken, Bruce, Karla, Margaret, Wade, Lovell, Manzanares, etc. readily admit there needs to be changes to raise morale, productivity, enrollment but what they are doing is changing the things that actually work by changing how the people that actually work do things instead of changing how they do things. We’ve gotten to a point where Casual Fridays are the norm yet Facilities Services are expected to wear a collared shirt 5 days a week in the name of professionalism. Exactly how bad does RH think Facilities personnel look on a daily basis? Departments all over campus having to give account for every little detail yet nobody is calling for RH to give an account for how or why they continue to get raises while numbers are plummeting. Want to catalyze positive change on our way to being in the positive, RH? Work for your respective base pay like a lot of ASU does. Throughout the classrooms, offices, public areas of ASU, we are taught/reminded of those who championed positive change, equality, etc. and they should be remembered; their great accomplishments recounted. But here on campus there are people who still fight for those same causes within the ASU microcosm and they are labeled dissenters. If those great people of history we venerate, whose accomplishments and sacrifices we celebrate, worked at ASU, they would be at best silenced.
February 12, 2019 at 10:47pm @Feb 11 9:17pm - Marquez has an MA from Adams State in Clinical Mental Health Counseling. He should have taken better notes on managing interpersonal relationships. Oh wait! How could I forget? He needed the letters, never planned on using the degree. Just like Mansheim trying to get his Masters through the History Department. Hardesty has an MA in Adult and Post Secondary Education from the University of Wyoming.
February 12, 2019 at 12:11pm Student enrollment and recruitment is not about what degree you have. It’s about skill set and business. The leaders of this department need to be innovative thinkers and the representatives need to be able to implement the leader's ideas. If there’s no plan, everyone is just collecting a check.
February 12, 2019 at 6:53am I have to believe Karla’s days are numbered. The question is, who would want that job?
February 11, 2019 at 9:17pm Karla needs an assistant to assist with... burgeoning enrollment? Someone to answer the silent phones while Karla is vacationing? How many different positions has Karla held at ASU over the last 5 years, and what did she do in each of those positions? What evidence does she have to demonstrate her effectiveness? How does the community tolerate the nepotism associated with Ken’s daughter being hired to be Karla’s assistant? This is a disgrace and the staff and faculty should be up in arms. Ken has a Masters degree? In what? Does anyone know what degrees Karla, Ken, and Ken's daughter has and how any of them are qualified to hold the positions they hold?
February 11, 2019 at 7:03pm So, when is Adams going to close? They bit the bullet and survived HLC, which could have closed them. Now, enrollment is falling which means someone has to come up with money to pay bills. I'm guessing their cash flow is a mess. Any projections?
February 10, 2019 at 9:27pm Re: February 10 @9:16 - Agreed! But somebody needs to inform Lovell of the history. Because she clearly isn’t getting it from her “E-Team”!
February 10, 2019 at 9:16pm I think it’s time to realize that the only people that can get ASU out of this whole are the people that who were pushed out.
February 10, 2019 at 3:08pm Ken's daughter? Of course. Nepotism breeds nepotism. Why did he ever get promoted to his current level or current salary?
February 9, 2019 at 8:17pm Can anyone locate the Valley Courier article where Karla states "someone needs to come up with an enrollment strategy?" I know I read that somewhere. It is hilarious because... hey, chica fresca... that would be YOU that should be doing that!
February 9, 2019 at 6:11pm The thing is, if Karla and Kendra and everyone else in Enrollment Management, Admissions, etc. were bringing in more students, some of these raises and the nepotism might be justifiable (or at least tolerable). But how many years of failure are permitted at ASU for someone in administration to continue being paid for sub-par performance? These falling enrollment numbers hurt everyone and there seems to be no accountability for poor performance.
February 9, 2019 at 5:25pm Do you all know that Karla's Assistant (Kendra) is Ken's daughter? wow
February 9, 2019 at 6:10am Seriously have never seen a person keep their job when clear evidence exists of their failure! Karla Hardesty needs to go!
February 7, 2019 at 7:37pm Is anyone really surprised by the enrollment numbers? Karla will never be successful. She will follow in the footsteps of Ken and continue to blame everyone around her because they lack personal accountability. There has only been 1 (FAILED) search for Director of Admissions since the resignation of Mr. Carpio (Ken and Karla needed raises). Karla's brilliant plan? Let's put a 23 year old kid, fresh off of her 1st year in a real job, in charge. Fantastic. Look out, Admissions! Karla and Ken need raises and the budget needs to be cut. #karlaforpresident
February 6, 2019 at 3:57am Is it just me or is the Financial Action Plan committee lacking transparency? When will we know who is going to be eliminated from the Hunger Games next?
February 3, 2019 at 9:15pm Not that I want to talk about old business, but looking at McClure's evaluations by BoT, I wonder who wrote: "No one cares about ASU more than Dr. McClure"? Perhaps the board with people like this individual is where it all starts...
February 1, 2019 at 2:12pm Surprise, surprise. It looks like ASU was implicated in this latest academic fraud scandal. From this Inside Higher Ed article: "She also helped athletes fulfill some of their university math requirements through online courses offered by other colleges, which the NCAA asserts that "a significant portion of the [Missouri] student population" does because "Missouri's math courses are historically difficult." (A university spokesman did not respond to requests for information about how commonly that actually happens.) The tutor completed course work for four athletes enrolled in an algebra class at a "local non-NCAA institution" that the report does not identify. Two other athletes took an online algebra course offered by Adams State University, in Colorado. The NCAA concluded that the tutor had also helped two athletes score high enough on Missouri's (unproctored) math placement exam to place out of remedial math. They ended up playing for Missouri before ultimately being found guilty of cheating under the university's honor code."
February 1, 2019 at 8:58am "Oh dear, not again..." - David Mazel NCAA Punishes Missouri in Blatant Academic Fraud Case
January 17, 2019 at 4:12pm I hope we will be told which option was chosen out of the several bond restructuring options explained to us in December. Based on the substantial short-term savings, it sounds like the scoop and toss method.
January 14, 2019 at 3:26pm Re January 14 @ 7:36 - Jody Mortensen does not work 30 hours per week. She works maybe 15. Her office hours are Tuesday and Thursday from 10am to 4pm. The position which I think you referenced is budget director. I believe that is filled by Jenny Yund. Jody’s title is controller of sponsored program which is not listed on the salary sheets.
January 14, 2019 at 7:57am @January 9, 2019 at 5:11pm: Please tell us more. 17 out of the 18 ASU nursing students who took the NCLEX (94.44%) passed. How many students started the nursing program in the 2017-2018 school year? How many were kicked out "2 days before they graduate"? What reason were they given? Did they fail to pass some internal exams?
January 14, 2019 at 7:36am Why is Jody Mortenson, who only works 30 hours a week, earning $80,000 a year, plus benefits? Half of her work was taken away when ASU forced Community Partnerships to close its doors. Adams is really hurting for money so this especially needs to be looked into.
January 9, 2019 at 5:11pm Congrats to the Nursing Department!? You gotta be kidding! What they did to achieve these results was the most disgusting thing I have ever witnessed in all my years in education. Stay tuned for yet another story going public demonstrating that, yet again, Adams is being run as a private business that benefits the E-team and a few other members of connected valley families at the expense of the some of the poorest students in the state (all while they brag about serving them). You wanna make your Department look good? Just borrow nursing's playbook and kick about 50% of the students out of your program 2 days before they graduate just because you wanna be sure to pad your pass rate on a standardized test. Sure hope our new President has enjoyed her honeymoon period because all the lies she's chosen to believe from the ASU cabal are about to fly in her face.
January 9, 2019 at 1:10pm Now here's a story that bears striking similarity to ASU: Chicago State to pay $650K to end lawsuit over faculty blog criticizing school leaders "A bitter lawsuit between Chicago State University and two professors who published a blog rebuking school leadership is coming to an end after more than four years. Chicago State has agreed to pay $650,000 in damages and attorneys fees to professors Robert Bionaz and Phillip Beverly, concluding yet another costly litigation involving the Far South Side institution in recent years. The professors alleged that the university violated their free speech rights in repeatedly attempting to shut down their blog, CSU Faculty Voice, which they billed as “the faculty’s uncensored voice.” Launched in 2009, the blog has criticized university administrators, particularly former President Wayne Watson. Faculty members who contributed posts lambasted a culture of cronyism and questioned ballooning administrative salaries and perks even as enrollment and graduation rates plummeted. Professors also criticized the university’s revolving door of leadership in the past three years: Four people have served as president or interim president since Watson retired in 2015. ... The university also agreed to revamp school policies governing cyberbullying and computer usage, the latter of which banned “any communication which tends to embarrass or humiliate,” according to a news release from the Philadelphia foundation. Chicago State must implement the new policies within 60 days and provide training to employees enforcing the policies within three months, according to the settlement agreement."
January 5, 2019 at 8:41pm Life’s short. You need to get a life. Have a little fun and be thankful. - Todd
December 26, 2018 at 10:29am Congratulations to the 2018 nursing graduates on their 94% NCLEX pass rate. And thanks to the Nursing Department faculty and staff for making successful changes.
December 23, 2018 at 8:59am Is it safe to spend my money on the online programs? Do I have a good chance of graduating from one of them? I'd already been through a lot of courses, and left, only to realize that financially I could not afford another school. I doubt Manzanares is going to give me back all the tuition I paid, which by the way, is kind of hefty. And I had a good GPA. Is there anyone who is willing to post on this board about the inner workings of the Counselor Ed dept? Whose coming, who's going, and what their take is on their popularity? I think in some ways it must have all gone to their heads. Of course, I wonder, given that some were just blasted unkind to me, if my FERPA rights were violated by sharing my information, my story, anywhere outside of the Counselor Ed or graduate programs dept. There are two people there I simply don't trust, and that's typically a good indicator, I've found, that something is going on. This time, I'm not taking it lying down!
December 11, 2018 at 11:38pm How does this keep happening every year when Counselor Education has 600-700 students? Maybe this year's deficit will require the institution to dig into the coffers of Counselor Education again? Didn’t they miraculously pull out few hundred thousand dollars to save the University last year? Has anyone submitted a public records request to see the financials for Counselor Education-Online and then compare that with the rest of the institution?
December 11, 2018 at 1:02pm Could someone shed light on what happened at the campus meeting yesterday? There was talk about restructuring to meet the $2.1 million deficit. Does this mean layoffs? I honestly can't see Adams making up this money without doing some serious cuts. But has that ever been mentioned? Am I missing something?
December 9, 2018 at 10:57am What do you mean “banned on Google?”
December 8, 2018 at 1:18pm For those of you who are banned on Google: Campus Safety & Emergency Management The link on this page includes the report: 2018 Annual Security & Fire Safety Report While there might be problems at Adams State, it does not help anyone if you invent new ones based on your inability to find a document on a website or fake news - "I've been informed that he refused to put the latest ASU CLERY report on the ASU web site."
December 7, 2018 at 6:54pm So: Adams was at one time utterly out of compliance with Clery (until 2014 or so?), and was again recently - in spirit if not legally. So what has changed? Is the HLC and probation just old news now? What lessons have we learned? Can we talk real about the future? What’s the big idea in play that’s going to change our trajectory, a trajectory that’s not terribly difficult to extrapolate? I personally vote for merging with another CO school, as soon as possible, and without much particularity as to the partner. Pretty much anyone will do at this point.
December 4, 2018 at 2:36pm Not wanting to inform students of potential dangers on campus is a terrible disregard for their safety. It could also cost ASU a lot of money. They are federally required to post this data. Fees for not doing so are like $50,000 per infraction. I don't think ASU has that money to spare!
December 3, 2018 at 4:36pm @Nov 26 10:18am - I'm certain there is very important web content that is no longer considered necessary by Mike Henderson, who created this new site. I've been informed that he refused to put the latest ASU CLERY report on the ASU web site. This is outrageous. The CLERY report exists to inform students about the crimes committed on their college campuses. It was named after Jean Clery who was raped and murdered on her campus and was never made aware that there had been 38 violent crimes committed on her campus in the 3 years prior to this. CLERY is essential information for our students, and it took the VP of Student Affairs and the Office of Equal Opportunity to force Henderson to upload it.
November 26, 2018 at 12:05pm @November 26 6:36am - I see the comparison between Gilmer and McClure as a cautionary tale for the rest of us in higher education and America at large. Sure, it's easy to be a bully and use fear and intimidation to shore up power for yourself in the short run, but it rarely works for long. Conversely, an ethical and caring person will eventually rise due to their own good work. That lesson still applies to everyone at Adams State. Either learn from ASU's history or we'll be doomed to repeat it with more terrible hires and chasing off great people.
November 26, 2018 at 10:18am @Nov 23 7:52am: the sites search tool wasn't good, either. Yeah, old stuff was first on the list and I think that there's info from the old site that is just gone on this new one.
November 26, 2018 at 6:36am @November 25, 2018 at 8:08am - So glad to see everything is right at ASU and you still have time to talk about ex-employees. I am not sure why we are talking about people who have moved on to other places rather than what needs to be fixed still at ASU. Oh wait, it is easier to dwell in the past. That way you don’t have to take any responsibility for what you are not doing in the present. Yes Dr. Gilmer is doing well and that is great for him but it no longer has any impact at ASU. Yes, I think it was a mistake that ASU let the bully push him out but that is now water under the bridge. He isn’t coming back. The Bev is gone, and for a while, she was the issue. Not any more. How about we work on fixing ASU rather than living in the past?
November 25, 2018 at 8:08am The Karma Mechanic has once again been busy making things right in the universe. Guess who is a university president and who isn't.
November 23, 2018 at 1:16pm ASU was doing really well back in 1957! But the past 5 years running? Not so much.
November 23, 2018 at 7:52am And how did that search feature work out for you? ASU's website has always been one of the least searchable I've ever seen. Search for almost any phrase and you get links from 1957, rather than the most recent / most relevant links.
November 21, 2018 at 4:14pm Thanks for posting the October 19th article about the failed new ASU website. I tried to give it a chance but after a month of trying to use it, I have to agree with the article - it's a cluster. My parents wanted to see it and I was showing it to them and couldn't find what they wanted to see. Everything is buried under so many clicks that I just gave up and just used the search feature to try and find info. Thanks for this blog for calling it out!
November 15, 2018 at 10:57am From the Concerned Parent, To all that have responded to my previous post, I say thank you. I see there seems to be a civil war at Adams State which is sad and critical. The deep disappointment and resentment about the degradation of this once proud school is fierce. With each post I admit that my heart wants my kid to be a part of the student body that resurrects Adams, but my head says the sacrifice is too great. I hope these tough issues get sorted out very soon. It appears we may be headed to my kids second southern Colorado school: Fort Lewis... It appears they have some problems, as well. I will still check this site for your sage and import advice. Thanks Again
November 14, 2018 at 9:54pm To the parent November 9, 2018 at 12:30pm - If you want to accept the risks associated with the factual information available regarding Adams State, then that is your choice. Decisions are made with incomplete information. In the case of Adams State, there is plenty of factual information available outside this website to make an informed decision. Just remember - your child would be assuming the risk. My nieces, nephews and future grandchildren will not be attending Adams State. We have many family members that attended Adams State College. The risk is far too great. The tradition of attendance has been broken.
November 14, 2018 at 11:58am @November 14, 2018 at 9:57am - And what makes your anonymous comment, which provides no counter-factual evidence, a "reliable source?" In addition to the poor ratings by College Factual, most people know by now that Adams State has also been named as: - ranked down at #96-#127 in the sub-category Regional Universities West by U.S. News & World Report - admitting 99% of all applications with an "easy" academic difficulty by University Magazine - named as one of the Top Ten Worst Dropout Factories (6th worst in the USA - 21.7% four year completion rate) by Third Way - a 25.7% lower graduation rate than CO state average; the lowest of the Top 10 Affordable CO Schoolsaccording to NCES - also named one of the Eleven Biggest Wastes of Money (8th worst in the USA - -$43,600 20 year return on degree) by PayScale - cited and sanctioned by its accreditor for serious and systemic academic fraud as widely reported during over two years of reporting - plagued by ongoing serious financial constraints with a negative outlook on credit according to Moody's Investor Service - cited for multiple compliance violations and an $84,351 fine from the Department of Education All the reliable indicators over many years have suggested ASU is in serious trouble. Attending ASU now is a considerable financial and career risk for students and employees alike.
November 14, 2018 at 9:57am Just FYI -- College Factual is not a reliable source.
November 12, 2018 at 5:31pm College Factual has all those wonderful things to say for prospective students. ASU is overpriced, yet faculty are paid very poorly, the worst in the state. They are overworked with a high teaching load, advising, and reductions in faculty. As a bonus, their kids pay full tuition, being the only school in CO that doesn't offer any sort of break. Is it any wonder faculty turnover is so rapid?
November 12, 2018 at 12:50pm According to College Factual, a national ranking database that compares a school's cost with the value of its education: "Compare the Adams State University Value of an Education - Within Colorado, Adams State University is Considered a Lower Quality College at an Average Price. Adams State University's overall average net price combined with a lower quality education, results in an average value for the money when compared to other colleges and universities in Colorado. This lands Adams State University in the #9 slot on our ranking of Best Colleges for the Money in Colorado." ... "Nationally, Buyer Beware: Bad Quality Score at a Bad Price - Adams State University's educational quality places it among the worst-ranked colleges and universities on our Overall Best Colleges list. However, when compared to these other schools that deliver the same caliber of education, the net price to attend Adams State is much, much higher than it should be. This has earned it a very poor #1,255 ranking on the Best Colleges for the Money list, and makes it an overpriced option. Students should carefully consider what their financial obligations will be should they wish to attend this school, and look closely at other educational options that offer similar benefits at a much better price."
November 12, 2018 at 11:15am Or send your kids to another university... It's not going to get any better anytime soon.
November 11, 2018 at 8:50pm As usual, the truth is in between the extreme positions presented here. Prominent members of past administrations were cruel, stupid, and corrupt. Most of them are gone with a few rotten apples remaining. As a result of past administrations, current students, staff, and faculty are paying, literally and figuratively. For example, ASU has low tuition but high fees to pay off all that construction approved by stupid and corrupt administrators in the past. Check the numbers. Cuts have been made to staffing, so faculty are stressed and overworked. Nevertheless, faculty are typical of faculty at many institutions in that they are here to teach because that's what they love. So students can expect a good education and possibly more individualized attention than they would get at many other schools. They can also expect very busy faculty, relatively high turnover of faculty, fewer course options, and more of there classes will be taught by adjuncts and visiting professors. If you want a quality education for your kids, then vote for politicians who and taxes that will fund higher education.
November 11, 2018 at 1:30pm @November 9, 2018 at 12:30pm - You should also consider talking to the former students, staff and faculty who left in disgust or were driven out by a corrupt, often cruel administration. Their stories matter, as well. And they aren't on the ASU payroll or with a degree pending so they will likely give you their full honesty.
November 10, 2018 at 10:02pm @November 9 12:30 pm - I've worked at Adams State for over 10 years so I've seen the good days and the tough days. I can honestly say I would not hesitate sending my student to Adams State, in fact I did and they got a great education. They have gone on and are very successful in their chosen career. If you have questions, please talk to students or staff and not base your decision on the things you read on this site.
November 10, 2018 at 12:01pm @November 9th 12:30 p.m. - ASU is a joke. I would get your child out as soon as you can and send her to any other University in Colorado... NOT ASU. I would not want a transcript from ASU. Once you are at ASU as a student or faculty and don't move on, you become stuck, never having the chance to move forward. Take her out as soon as you can.
November 9, 2018 at 12:30pm Hello all readers, I appreciate the reality check. I find myself to be a very concerned parent now that I have started reading these posts. I am a parent of a out of state student who is academically outstanding, motivated, and is very interested in ASU as well as playing a intercollegiate sport. We have visited campus finding all the people we ran into (not just introduced to) very complimentary of the school, the faculty, and the area. Am I guiding my kid into a train wreck or is this really the typical administration nightmare that can be managed? Please send me your thoughts. - Respectfully
November 6, 2018 at 7:04pm The honeymoon is over. Morale jumped with the start of the new semester. Now it is plummeting.
November 4, 2018 at 6:25pm I heard the same thing from my son. His high school friends aren't considering Adams because of our reputation. So sad what an inept, corrupt administration has done to a good school and the work of dedicated faculty. Of course, some of our faculty or former faculty are to blame, as well.
November 4, 2018 at 3:50pm November 3rd - I was subbing at the high school last week and was talking to a student about an advanced degree. I asked her is she was planning on going to Adams State and she said the same thing: Adams State is a joke.
November 4, 2018 at 3:38pm I'm not even sure who 7:55am thinks is the "problem employee" in question. Grohowski the former police chief? Ledonne the former faculty member? It doesn't seem to matter much at this point. The issues at hand are far more pressing and people seem to have drawn whatever conclusion they will about previous ASU employees.
November 4, 2018 at 5:12am Re: November 3 @ 7:55am - That is exactly the point of this website. It’s not that ASU had a problem employee. It’s that ASU has major, structural problems stemming from an incompetent and corrupt administration — many of whom are still there. And that so-called problem employee wasn’t afraid to speak out. I pray for Dr. Lovell to get it sooner rather than later. Area HS students should be coming to ASU, not laughing at it.
November 3, 2018 at 7:55am Yesterday I talked to an Alamosa high school Sophomore and asked him what his plans were after school and if ASU was part of them. He laughed, and said “Adams State is a joke” and now I see a bigger part of the issue. You have people out there that would rather talk about a problem employee that left the university years ago and now has no impact on ASU, rather than deal with the issues that still affect ASU. I am guessing that they are probably one of the problems that still exist trying to deflect. Mean girls? Is that you?
November 2, 2018 at 2:12pm Looks like Paul Grohowski, everyone's favorite campus police chief, has screwed up yet again and landed himself desk duty after 5 months on the job: Sarasota schools head of security leaving, police chief reassigned Sarasota Schools name new police chief; reassign current chief to new role
October 29, 2018 at 2:51pm This op-ed in yesterday's Pueblo Chieftain seems relevant for Adams State: Coloradans need cheaper, more accessible higher education, not tax cuts for millionaires
October 23, 2018 at 11:26am ----Editor's Note: We received the following message today which may be of interest to readers: "I have been reaching out to the Perkins loans officer at ASU since June 2018 to work on a payment arrangement I had set up. I have yet to actually to speak with her. Every time I call she’s on vacation or out of the office, so I spoke with her supervisor Greg and he couldn’t do anything for me either and stated he’s not sure why she hasn’t returned any of my calls. Considering he’s her boss, that should not have been the answer and he should’ve worked harder to assist with my request. Since she hasn’t gotten back to me, I may not be able to start my new school in January as planned. It is very inconvenient, inappropriate and just plain rude! Please feel free to use my story to blast them for the unprofessional university they are!"
October 22, 2018 at 6:32pm I am one among the many departed faculty of recent years. Am curious to know what steps the board is now taking to address faculty retention. Are they just looking at salary competitiveness, or are they also considering the deeper and far more problematic issues of morale, trust, valuation, nepotism, cronyism, shared governance, basic human decency, transparency, and fairness. Answer that and you’ll have your answer as to whether they are serious or not.
October 22, 2018 at 10:30am Re: October 19, 2018 at 7:21am - I had the same conversation with a student SEVEN years ago. There's been no change. How is the Board addressing the issue? Not being snarky - legitimately wondering your opinion.
October 19, 2018 at 7:21am The cost of turnover: I had a new advisee say she requested me because her last two advisors disappeared so quickly. So, I'm her third advisor as she goes into her fourth year. ASU has put faculty retention on the back burner for too long. It's nice to see the Board finally addressing the issue. Let's hope they take it seriously.
October 15, 2018 at 5:08pm I hope Dr. Lovell, new administrators, and new faculty get a chance to hear Dr. Waddell's podcast so they can learn more about the history of problems at ASU from an unvarnished perspective in the trenches of higher ed. One of the pervasive problems with ASU's institutional culture is that new leaders are quickly absorbed into the same corruption and either 1) become complicit (McClure) or 2) chased out (Gilmer) upon realizing what's going on.
October 14, 2018 at 8:15am Uhhh, in response to October 9 at 2:58 posting: the Art Dept full time graphic designer faculty position was eliminated in the 2018 purge. Go figure.
October 12, 2018 at 12:35pm Re: The recent Courier article "Adams State University trustees may resume a presidential search in the future, but they are not in a hurry." HOW TYPICAL for the Trustees to remain complacent and want to maintain the "status quo." An interim is interim for a reason - - although that reason has never been made clear. Typically when an organization hires anyone interim, the intentions are made clear from the beginning, either by the organization or the candidate. Interims are hired for a few reasons: to make overarching changes with no intention of applying for permanence or to maintain status quo until a search is conducted with the candidate having some intention of applying for permanence. Interim positions are also typically filled quickly due to time constraints. The candidates originally interviewed were for a temp position. Why not strive for more? Strive for better? Put the work in and conduct a national search that yields the best possible candidate. I'm not saying that an interim cannot become permanent once the realization of a perfect fit for both professional and institution has been found. But that's not the case. The bar has been set so low by the previous president, Lovell merely has to "meet with faculty weekly," "walk around campus," and have a pulse to be considered a permanent fit. Maintaining "status quo" is not what is best for ASU. Where is the innovation? Where are the changes in order to prevent another massive exodus of staff and students? Where is the accountability to prevent E-Team from giving themselves undue/undeserved raises? *crickets*
October 10, 2018 at 2:18pm RE: October 9, 2018 at 2:58pm - I agree. The new "improved" website is less easily navigated than the previous website it replaced. For a simple example, try finding the class schedule. Importantly, it is shameful that a wholesale culling of the archives of prior articles - a loss of historical institutional record.
October 9, 2018 at 2:58pm I'm not sure whose brilliant idea the new ASU website design belongs to. I do know that the end result is a very dumbed-down interface with all the images from most previous pages now gone (like that Standing Strong article or any older ASU news article). The new Adams State site looks like it was designed by a first year graphic design student as a final project made the night before it was due and after a weekend of partying. In other words: the perfect representation of what's wrong with ASU!
October 9, 2018 at 1:33am I am surprised about Benson's comments on morale and "residual scarring." Who was standing with a sign "Standing strong for President McClure"? There is still an article about it - Standing Strong for Adams State - pictures are gone, unfortunately. This is a faculty trustee that faculty should not trust. Many of Adams State's problems are not caused by external factors, like McClure or HLC. They are caused by internal factors. Benson is one of them. Just retire, Rob.
October 7, 2018 at 4:50pm I'm amused by this quote in the recent Courier article: "Faculty Trustee Dr. Robert Benson said morale among faculty had jumped significantly for the most part after the selection of a new president. “That was huge,” he said. He added that faculty are cautiously optimistic “because we have a little bit of residual scarring from a couple of rough years.” It's always charming to hear from the people who were in denial of, and often outright supporting, a vindictive administration while it was happening... and who now have the comfort of passively criticizing it from their cushy view in the rear view mirror. When they look back, do they see all the people they threw under the bus in the process? Who inflicted those "residual scars," Rob?
September 25, 2018 at 11:22pm It's impressive to see the new and updated adams.edu website. I wonder if that just means they are trying to bury any reminders of the train-wreck of the past decade.
September 25, 2018 at 5:24pm According to the Faculty Senate agenda for today's meeting, administrative salary adjustments will be among the discussion items, and addressed by Dr. Nehring. Will the results of this discussion be shared with the rest of the campus community?
September 21, 2018 at 3:44pm The Courier op-ed by Michael Marchildon is correct. I've been saying for many years that ASU's landscaping is woefully out of step with the dry, high desert conditions of the San Luis Valley. Attempting to maintain these water-guzzling grass lawns is just another example of a campus that has failed to understand how to allocate resources in effective, responsible ways. And thus ASU is a burden on its own community's limited water resources as a result! What message does this send to students?
September 17, 2018 at 3:50pm September 16, 2018 at 8:16am - I've also been wondering if/when the administration would ever deign to provide any explanation or justification of their outrageous salary increases. No surprise that they have elected to regard them as justified (at least in their minds) - and that no one in the greater campus community is due any explanation. "Shut up and get back to work" seems to be the implicit message.
September 16, 2018 at 8:16am Nothing but silence from the administrators who gave themselves raises. They reassure us they are committed to us, but their actions show commitment to themselves. Fine leadership, inspirational.
September 15, 2018 at 4:46pm Maybe he is teaching the plethora of remedial classes taught in math at Adams which are not college level? Those are high school level and high school teachers don’t need a masters. I am guessing that the admissions standards are continuing to drop in order to pump up the numbers.
September 13, 2018 at 9:58pm "No contest" means you're conceding the charge without admitting guilt and without presenting a defense. But unlike a plea of guilty or innocent, a defendant must get a court's consent to plead no contest, which comes with certain legal consequences. HE DOESN'T HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE! HLC, where are you? Qualified people have been fired!
September 13, 2018 at 1:55pm @10:15am - The bomb prank was "blown out of proportion." That's a good one! There's nobody who can teach math at ASU except for a guy who "pranked" the same campus with an explosive device? Really?
September 13, 2018 at 1:42pm The editor and publisher of the Valley Courier needs a basic lesson in journalism - including reporting and headline composition. The headline "Adams State shares enrollment trends" isn't newsworthy because these trends aren't secretive, so sharing them isn't a headline. The headline should include what those trends actually are - which in this case means enrollment dropping by 1%. The existing headline tells us nothing about what enrollment trends actually are... which I suspect is precisely the point.
September 13, 2018 at 11:11am I just noticed that the arresting officer in the explosive case is the same officer listed as a defendant in a lawsuit against Monte Vista. MVPD, RG County settle with Delgado family
September 13, 2018 at 10:15am I think the Kenny Bussen thing might be being blown out of proportion. I wasn't able to find much additional reporting on the incident, but what I did find indicated that this "bomb" was probably akin to the baking soda and vinegar variety or maybe dry ice. Stupid and irresponsible to be sure, but let's not act like he was strapping C4 to the stadium. Plea entered in ASU explosive device case
September 12, 2018 at 2:28pm @1:45pm - Woah, that's surreal. So in 2013, Kenan Bussen planted a bomb on the ASU campus, was charged with three felonies, and in 2018 is hired to teach Math there? Yet ex-President McClure claimed Danny Ledonne was engaging in "terrorism" without any charges, the school paid a settlement, and he no longer teaches there? Got it. What is wrong with this place? What parent would send there child to a college that hires teachers charged with felony explosive possession on their own campus? Is bomb manufacturing now part of the math curriculum at Adams State?
September 12, 2018 at 1:45pm This fine young man now has a job teaching as an Adjunct Instructor Mathematics at Adams State: Adams State Police arrest suspect, safely detonate explosive MA in progress?
September 11, 2018 at 12:02pm Enrollment figures look like they have been managed once again to lower numbers. Nice work Team Adams! We all enjoy the data mining for ANYTHING that looks good for the Adams State spin cycle. We are also awaiting the spin cycle for how hard and tough the athletic teams have been performing thus far. Besides Cross Country, all other teams look either horrible or below average, which is the standard set by the AD. Looking ahead we should see a rise in enrollment due to Adams States 100% acceptance rate. Morale should be high due to all the nice pay raises for the administration. Professors can hopefully find a way to milk those ATM $$$ via online anything to keep those $140-$180k per year salaries intact or we may lose them to the professional marketplace. Enrollment is down. With Karla Hardesty at the helm and after a nice pay raise, she should be excited for another great year in managing the downfall in enrollment.
September 7, 2018 at 10:15pm ----Editor's Note: We thought readers might be interested in this video recently completed for Colorado AAUP: The Dirty Little Secrets of the Colorado Community College System Part I: Why Impoverished Educators = Impoverished Education
September 2, 2018 at 9:22pm After review of the salaries for the Administrative Assistants... what a huge disparity in salaries! Position C00130 AAII $45,072 (how’s this admin paid so high - what a huge pay difference!). C00124 AAII $34,500! C00181 AAIII $50,760 : AAIII C00536 $37,536 : C00124 AAIII $34,500 WTH! Classified employee council should get on this! Or HR, Tracy Rogers!
August 27, 2018 at 2:59pm 8-27 @12:45, Do you really expect Ana to do the right thing? Has that been the experience in the past?
August 27, 2018 at 12:45pm The post on ASU Instagram shows how behind ASU is. Wonder if they are going to post a picture of all ethnicities in the team? Ana, where are you...
August 25, 2018 at 9:53pm Where the heck is the Board of Trustees regarding these raises? How could they let this happen? Have they learned nothing from McClure's reign of terror? Or are they clueless about what actually goes on at ASU?
August 20, 2018 at 9:00pm Agreed! Raises have to be explained ESPECIALLY given all the job losses. Also, aren't raises supposed to be given based on performance evaluations? How are those going for everyone? Just going through the motions?
August 20, 2018 at 4:02pm I agree, 7:18am. Does Dr. Lovell read Watching Adams? She should know what people here are concerned about. And that's (another) long list of 2017-2018 departed employees! Did Dr. Matt Ikle in Computer Science also leave?
August 20, 2018 at 10:21am A counselor at Alamosa High has bumper stickers in her office for CSU, UCCS, Fort Lewis, and one other Colorado school, but none for ASU. She doesn't have one. Do we provide AHS with recruitment materials?
August 20, 2018 at 7:18am I really appreciate how Dr. Lovell addressed morale so directly during the all-campus meeting. I like the idea of everyone letting go of the past. And then I read and hear people's responses to the large salary increases for a select few. Concern is justified. The same administrators who dug the hole in which we reside rewarded themselves. How do you expect people to let go of the past when the past keeps repeating itself? Seriously, if administrators can't step up and explain these raises clearly and publicly, they have little chance of changing morale for the positive. A response here or an all-campus email is necessary.
August 19, 2018 at 10:03am Hey Matt Nehring - no comment at all in defense of the outrageous salary increases for administration? Really? Is the campus community not entitled to any explanation at all?
August 18, 2018 at 7:48pm At this point, throw the whole executive team away. If not, they will try to get rid of Dr. Lovell.
August 17, 2018 at 6:27pm The new director of Facilities Services had already told grounds crew they can’t take break in the shop or use the restroom there and that they must “stop in their tracks” and take breaks there. They can’t use a microwave or stop at First Stop to buy anything. They have to “plan accordingly” the night before or after the shift. Is that even legal to do?
August 17, 2018 at 5:50pm I appreciate Dr. Lovell’s “let it go” position. But she is smoking crack if she thinks anyone is going to “trust” that executive team. They are the heart of our problems. Seriously, trust Tracy Rogers? She is the most vindictive snake around.
August 16, 2018 at 3:45pm Any of ya'll get over a $10,000 raise this year? Because if your first name is Margaret, Heather, Kevin, or Ken, you just might have. But don't look at that salary data... and get back to work!
August 16, 2018 at 1:18pm Re: August 15, 2018 at 11:38pm - I'm sure I am not the only one who would be appreciative of Dr. Nehring offering some explanation of this outrageous disparity in compensation.
August 15, 2018 at 11:38pm Interesting commentary about raises at the top and firings down below. Looking at the comparison data provided in the table suggests the administration was derelict in duty. What in the hell was Matt Nehring thinking? He FIRED people! He FORCED people to take pay cuts (or else). All this as he was giving raises to the same old corrupt individuals. Does Dr. Lovell understand this? The attorney general? Have we learned NOTHING from our HLC probation? I seriously don’t know if I’m more pissed, sad or worried! WTF!
August 14, 2018 at 10:08pm CFO and CIO are completely overpaid. What a waste of institutional money!
August 14, 2018 at 7:41pm Whatever happened to the salary review committee from a couple of years back? Shouldn’t they reconstitute? Shouldn’t the Faculty Senate ask some hard (and obvious) questions? Is this something the attorney general could be asked to look at? Never mind. It’s Adams. Same old.
August 14, 2018 at 6:35pm Executive Director of Enrollment Management $81k! Salaries go up while enrollment goes down. Fantastic business plan. It's awfully quiet over in Admissions. Oh wait, they are very busy with Pokemon Go and Netflix. I wonder how inflated the 1st time freshman numbers will be for fall 2018? Whats the real acceptance rate? How many students with an index of less than 70 were admitted to help pay these salaries? Slogan: "Lifetime debt begins here." It's okay Karla, everyone knows its not your fault. Let's Make Adams Great Again! #KarlaforPresident
August 14, 2018 at 7:30am @10:06 - CIO got over 15k raise since last report. Good to know some people were not affected by the budget cuts.
August 13, 2018 at 10:06pm I thought 2% increase applies to everyone. Why some people got higher increase?
August 13, 2018 at 3:40pm Budget Director's salary? 0.75 FTE?? What the hell?
August 13, 2018 at 11:38am Dear Editor, It would be helpful if we could see a spreadsheet with salaries across the years in one file—for comparison purposes. I think people would be shocked to see some of the raises that administrators in RH received this year. For example: Heather Heersink’s $16,000 increase. THIS with people being fired and forced to take pay cuts. Heather’s increase was paid for by Sally Kelly. Thanks, Sally! How many others can we find? Matt Nehring was a worthless, spineless joke.
August 11, 2018 at 3:24pm To the editor: A sincere thank you for keeping this site abreast of current events and obtaining and making available all pertinent institutional data - that is, incidentally, public information (regardless of whether ASU administration likes it or not.) ----Editor's Reply: You're welcome!
August 10, 2018 at 5:15pm ----Editor's Note: ASU 2018-2019 salary data is now online here.
August 7, 2018 at 9:14am Wondering if 2018-19 salary data has been made available... ----Editor's Reply: We expect to publish these salary sheets within the next week.
July 23, 2018 at 6:07am Filling a facility position or a locomotive? Decisions, decisions.
July 19, 2018 at 10:47pm I'm so glad ASU purchased a train and spent $ painting it. This will be a great distraction to make up for the lack of plans unveiled on how students will be recruited.
July 17, 2018 at 6:42pm "Giving students a great education at a great price" should be our motto. Building dreams of debt, not. If we want to give everyone a chance, give them one term to prove they want an education.
July 17, 2018 at 5:46am So back to other news... any strategies to actually recruit students? Anyone with a plan?
July 16, 2018 at 2:34pm What an insufferably dim statement, 7:23am. Do you think that the Internet only works on a per-country basis or that articles posted from one country cannot be viewed and considered everywhere? Do you also believe that only the Valley Courier is a reliable news source about Alamosa because the Denver Post and Pueblo Chieftain are published north of here? It's not “gossip” to publish admission standards comparing various schools. Much like that Atlantic article “These U.S. Colleges and Majors Are the Biggest Waste of Money,” an article like University Magazine's “College with the Highest Acceptance Rate” is not a flattering place for ASU to be prominently mentioned. But maybe it's all “fake news,” right? After all, Canada is now a national security threat according to Donald Trump.🙄
July 16, 2018 at 7:23am July 5, 5:22 pm - Excuse me, what does CANADA have to do with it, and why should a US school be gossiped about in a UK magazine?
July 9, 2018 at 1:25pm The following message was sent to the ASU campus: From: Office of the President Date: Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 12:10 PM Subject: HLC News We received this notification Monday and wanted to share it immediately with you. “The Higher Learning Commission (HLC) has removed the sanction of Probation for Adams State University. HLC took this action based on the institution’s ability to demonstrate it is now in compliance with all of HLC's Criteria for Accreditation.” This is wonderful news and a cause for celebration. What a great way to begin the week. Addressing and resolving the concerns of the Higher Learning Commission has been a campus-wide effort led by the Vice President of Academic Affairs Office and Assistant VP Margaret Doell. Others who put in extraordinary work to resolve the HLC concerns include: Dr. Matt Nehring and Ken Marquez as Criterion 1 co-chairs; Karla Hardesty as Criterion 2 and Federal Compliance chair; Leslie Alvarez, Criterion 3 co-chair; Beez Schell and Tony Weathers, Criterion 4 co-chairs; Kevin Daniel and Heather Heersink, Criterion 5 co-chairs; Traci Bishop, our amazing assurance system coordinator; Victor Soe and Sarah Rhett for digging up evidence on short notice; Erin Frew, our external reviewer and consultant; and David Moon, external reviewer. In its decision, HLC noted the University’s efforts to “adopt several new policies, including a policy on overload, that limit the number of credit hours and the number of students one faculty member can teach.” The HLC also noted how Adams State has “reorganized so that the appropriate academic departments and the Vice President of Academic Affairs provide oversight for the Extended Study courses.” Adams State is now on the Standard Pathway with its next comprehensive evaluation for reaffirmation of accreditation in 2021-22. The institution is required to submit an Interim Report no later than June 30, 2020, in addition to the standard annual reports required. Please do share this news with your own networks and help us spread the word. The fall semester is around the corner and we have so much to look forward to. Let us collectively move onward and upward with Adams State. And we will plan a celebration. Stay tuned. Dr. Cheryl Lovell, President
July 7, 2018 at 5:56pm On the upside, it is satisfying to see Chris Gilmer being welcomed as university president at West Virginia University and that Beverlee McClure is no longer president at Adams State. Notice how there are no more McClure cheerleaders on this website or on campus? Dr. Lovell should note who those remaining Mean Girls (and a few guys) are and be very skeptical of their "support" for her...
July 7, 2018 at 5:44pm It should be embarrassing but not surprising that, although for decades Adams State has proudly touted its “moderately selective admission standards”, University Magazine has ranked Adams #1 (!) for laxest admission standards and rated it “easy” for academic difficulty. Over the past 25 years general education requirements have been reduced time and again, as well as reducing the total credit hours required for a bachelor’s degree. Concurrently, in order to boost enrollment the “moderately selective admission standards” were progressively abridged - which, in turn, required the development of a robust developmental (née “remedial”) program for woefully underprepared students. This shortsighted strategy sacrificed institutional integrity and inevitably resulted in unsustainable reductions in persistence and 4, 5, and 6-year graduation rates. As data regarding the standards actually in practice at Adams State are readily accessible to prospective students, their parents, and prospective faculty, the effects can only be continued decreases in enrollment, increasing difficulty in attracting qualified faculty and, ultimately, a self-reinforcing downward spiral. Therefore, to prevent the institution failing altogether, at this most critical juncture the campus community at large must rise up and demand that the new administration, lest they be removed and replaced, resist the inbred administrative traditions that have eroded institutional standing and insist that respectable, objective standards be reestablished. Alternatively, perhaps Father Guido Sarducci’s suggested model for higher education might be appropriate for Adams State going forward.
July 6, 2018 at 9:14pm @12:32pm - Ditto for fall enrollment. Probation or no probation, everything hinges on students. Will there be any?
July 6, 2018 at 12:32pm So what is the outcome of HLC and the probation? I thought it was going to end the last week of June, this year, not next. The comments have been inexplicably silent on the biggest issue facing Adams State!
July 5, 2018 at 5:22pm So University Magazine in Canada has just ranked Adams State as the #1 highest acceptance rate, with 99% of students accepted and an academic difficulty ranking of “easy.”What does that say about the value of a degree from ASU?
June 30, 2018 at 12:25pm The word is getting out about ASU‘s bad cop, Paul Grohowski: Sarasota schools’ new police chief has blips on past employment screen
June 30, 2018 at 9:58am The purpose of the Clery Act as first legislated was to enable consumers to have some measure of risk of violent crime at colleges they may be attending by forcing campuses to report those risks in spite of the temptation to hide criminal activity for fear of losing potential students. Like our current wildfire, no federal legislation is ever satisfied and continous to grow and spread. Clery has been amended, "clarified" (in the way bureaucrats make things clearer), and piggy-backed until the regulatory burden threatens to overwhelm its purpose. Fire reporting, specific discipline procedures, added offenses, and new Violence Against Women regulations grew the law. Ok, civics lesson over. As campus police chief for 7 years, it fell to ASUPD to be the fingers at the keyboard to sumbit the report. It is critical to understand that meeting Clery requirements is the responsibility of multiple entities. Disciplinary reports and procedures, policy, drug and sexual violence education, etc etc come from housing, counseling, student affairs, area off-campus law enforcement, athletics and others. (And, of course, there were paid consultants brought in to give the latest best practices). Gathering accurate data depends on cooperation of the data holders. Reporting requirements are complex. One of my key veteran officers took the responsibility for gathering and entering the data, in addition to doing our internal information management, CBI and FBI crime reports. This required digesting and coding every officer's reports according to the inconsistent definitions and reporting requrements of each requesting entity. It was time consuming and complicated and it always pained me to have a fully trained officer in our chronically understaffed department chained to a desk fulfilling bureacratic requirements. I shifted the responsibilites for Clery data entry (not Clery compliance since that is a campus wide responsibility) to our very able administrative assistant as an added duty. When she returned from training she reported that she was a minority in that her Clery duties were part-time compared to the multi-staffed compliance teams of other colleges of similar size. She was eventually allowed to give full time attention to that task(not during my tenure) Finally, it should be noted that the Clery issues cited in the report that were controllable by ASUPD and subsequently another office were transcription errors easily correctable and swifly satisfied. The bulk of the DOE investigation and concern was in financial aid, not the Clery issue. Also, for the record, 2013 had many new regulatory additions to the law. 2013 stats get reported and published in 2014. One may recall that there was (ahem) a leadership change in the PD in the summer (pre-report deadline) of that year. Bottom line is that ASU can be proud of the competence, training, and hard work your Clery compliance folk have done. - Joel Shults
June 30, 2018 at 6:32am June 29, 2018. 10:18 p.m. - Mean Girls has spread further than that. A set of discussion board posts in Counselor Ed had me feeling retailated against. I disagreed with a point and politely explained my position. Then, I got a midterm grade warning 3 count em, THREE weeks into the semester of C. Even I'd lost some points early in every semester, no one had ever done that, give me a warning so inexplicably early. The adjuncts behavior was something I considered unprofessional. I had oroblems with the whole Dept after that debacle and handed in my notice as a grad student. For you see, I agree with what JLC says about the online programs, the students get very little interaction with the proofs. When you reach out, you get maybe one email back. I guess they don't make enough to bother, and they use their own grad PhD candidates to adjunct. So this means the adjunct is likely in a practice, being a wife and mother, and in grad school, with an added classload on top of that! But as an online grad student who pays 1300 per course, that's NOT my problem! Somehow, all that became a dissatisfied. The fact actual discussion was squelched was just proof positive that Adams is a good place to stay away from.
June 29, 2018 at 10:18pm A point of clarity: The term “Mean Girls” at ASU isn't some random insult that's applicable to anyone on campus. It refers to a specific group of women, led and cultivated by Beverlee McClure as her inner circle, who made a routine practice of bullying and retaliating against anyone who questioned, criticized, challenged or contradicted the ASU administration circa 2015-2018. They have been mentioned here by name and observed in their completely unprofessional behavior and actions. ASU "mean girls” is an accurate and widely-held perception that describes this group, not for the purposes of “bullying” but to characterize a tribal, vindictive workplace culture used to maintain power and punish dissent.
June 29, 2018 at 8:25pm June 29, 2018 at 5:20pm - Yes, it was my understanding as well that at that point it was not the same individual collecting Clery information. June 29, 2019 at 11:44am - That’s the problem, “you’re guessing”, and not correctly. I’m not sure what you mean with your “bad girls club” comment, nor do I know anything about you to be making assumptions about you, but I can tell you yesterday was the first time I’ve gotten on this ridiculous site in months; thank you for reminding me why. THOSE are the types of comments I am referring to when I say they are unnecessary and show that you know nothing of the person you’re responding to. June 29, 2019 at 7:42am - I appreciate your intelligent response, and it is exactly the type of comment I am happy to read on this site. No accusations, no “guessing”, just discussing what you know to be correct. That, I 100% am happy to see and l, believe it or not, completely agree with. I believe that we both want to see accountability & improvement, and no, I don’t expect nothing but positivity to change things, nor do I believe that ignoring things is the answer. And I think there are absolutely people on this site who respond in a productive manner, refer to facts, and what they know to be true. I just also see that those posts are becoming fewer and far between. It is the juvenile, accusatory “bad girls”-type comments I don’t appreciate and don’t believe are productive or helpful at all. I am more than open to discussion about issues, and it’s likely I agree with you on a lot of ASU’s issues. I just believe it’s possible to do so without all the name calling and bullying taking place on this site. I believe it’s possible to speak about the issues at hand and still treat others like human beings, especially when I am not personally involved or sure of all the facts at hand.
June 29, 2018 at 5:20pm June 29 @11:44am - Again, you obviously don’t have an understanding of how Clery was/wasn’t handled. Prior to this year. No. The person handling Clery compliance now was not handling it in 2013. No one really was, which is why there is now an employee dedicated to that. The fact that you’re responding at 11:44am tells me that you, more than likely, are sitting at your desk, not doing your job and are part of the “I want to bitch and moan about everyone else, though I do nothing” club. The same ones who never respond to a student’s voicemail, or email, or you transfer them all over campus to avoid having to actually do something and earn your pay. I too hope that Dr. Lovell sees through the bullshit to get rid of the lazy, incompetent people collecting paychecks, while the rest of us have to pick up your slack.
June 29, 2018 at 12:19pm As she did her own homework on Adams State, she offered, “I am equally pleased to see your athletic programs are so strong. As a student-athlete myself, I appreciate these experiences and want to be part of a campus community that also values student engagement and athletic competition at both intramural and intercollegiate levels.” - Interim ASU President Dr. Lovell ASU Football - losing program Men’s BB - average at best Women’s BB - losing program Volleyball - always average Softball - below average Wrestling - losing program Swimming - losing program Women’s Soccer - losing program Lacrosse teams - losing programs Cross Country - win titles Track and Field - strong teams but not as much of late it appears So where is the “strength” of the athletic programs? There is strength in only one program. Any other AD would be gone with this record. ASU seems content to support losing programs in athletics. Here’s to hoping that Dr. Lovell sees the opportunities in changing leadership in athletics and ridding ASU of coaches that do not produce.
June 29, 2018 at 11:44am @June 29, 2018 at 2:23am: - it seems that you might be the one without knowledge of the situation. Was it not the same individual doing the Clery reporting in 2013 that is doing it now, just under a different title? I am guessing you are a member of the so called “bad girls club” circling the wagons here. I just hope Dr Lovell sees through the BS and gets rid of the rest of the people that have screwed up the institution. There are a ton of good people at asu. Too bad there are so many bad ones in the administration.
June 29, 2018 at 7:42am "It almost seems as though many of this site's commenters would like to see ASU fail." Incorrect. We want to see ASU leadership held ACCOUNTABLE for the mistakes and even crimes they have committed. Instead, those responsible continue to retire, be promoted, be paid off. This statement is not "smack-talking" or an unfounded conclusion. It is FACT. And it lies at the heart of what this site is trying to accomplish. Staying positive isn't a cure all for ASU's shortcomings - it just leads to ignoring the deep seated issues that still remain at ASU.
June 29, 2018 at 2:23am Taking into consideration that all Clery-related findings had to do with statistical discrepancies from the 2013 calendar year, and that these violations were satisfactorily addressed, and the findings subsequently closed with no attached fines, as well as the fact that the “assistant director of Title IX/Clery compliance coordinator” position was filled at the end of 2015, it would seem that the author of the June 27, 2018 at 7:41am comment has little knowledge of what those issues entailed, nor what the findings from the 2013 calendar year have to do with the job that person has been doing since 2015. Furthermore, it would seem that they fail to notice that the DOE found no Clery violations after the year 2013. The fact that almost all of the findings, including all Clery and DFSCA-related violations, were dismissed or closed without fines assessed is actually incredibly good news for the University, and shows that, although ASU is not currently at it's finest, there are still a lot of people who work extremely hard every day, and care very much for this institution. The people on this site want to see change and positivity happen for ASU, yet all I see here are people's constant negative comments and assumptions. Just a few lines down: "Lovell is going to come in thinking she can push the sports and earn money for the school.", and further down, somebody else making an incorrect assumption regarding the decision the board would make. "...we will, in fact, have the local candidate, Salazar." Why is this necessary? A discussion? Absolutely. Talking about ASU's very real and important problems, and working toward positive changes/solutions for a better institution? VERY necessary. But the bullying, assumptions and negative comments about positions and people who, a lot of times, the comment-writer knows nothing about? It's absolutely unnecessary and makes no positive impact on ASU or its community whatsoever. It almost seems as though many of this site's commenters would like to see ASU fail. All this jumping to conclusions is ridiculous and has gotten so old. The sad thing is, a lot of people coming to our little valley, and ASU, are seeing things like this site, and the petty complaining and "smack-talking" and instead of being able to form their own opinions of ASU and its employees, come here with a negative impression of ASU and its community. And honestly, I am just embarrassed and saddened to read so many grown adults' constant complaining and accusations. Many times, the authors of these comments look no better than the people they are so eager to put down. I am in total agreement that ASU is in need of some very real change, and has been for quite a while. But if everybody on this site wants a better ASU, how can so many not see what a detriment all this negativity is to ASU and its chances of improvement and growth? None of this helps ASU.
June 28, 2018 at 2:29pm Looking over the timeline of events in the Department of Education review, it seems reasonably clear by now that Beverlee McClure wasn't let go because of a Halloween costume or some vague “incongruity” of priorities with the Board of Trustees. It now appears that she failed to properly manage a number of mandatory reporting duties and did not fully apprise the Board during the DOE investigation... Because when you're a narcissist, you cannot admit fault and instead blame everyone else. Or just pretend nothing is wrong. McClure did both repeatedly. And now we can add another $84,000 to the cost of getting rid of her. In other news, it looks like the Board was wise enough to hire a competent, qualified replacement. I hope Dr. Lovell gets the job done and finishes cleaning house! We know who the bottom-feeders are; they've been named here often.
June 28, 2018 at 12:18pm Re: June 28 @ 9:01 - My thoughts exactly! She’s far more qualified than Dave Svaldi ever was!
June 28, 2018 at 9:01am Re: June 27 @ 9:45pm - How about we give Dr. Lovell, the best qualified candidate, a chance before leaping to negative conclusions?
June 27, 2018 at 9:45pm I can see it now, Lovell is going to come in thinking she can push the sports and earn money for the school. Never realizing this is one of the things people are so angry about. Oh well.
June 27, 2018 at 7:41am Considering there is a title listed on the salary data spreadsheet of “assistant director of Title IX/Clery compliance coordinator” and there were so many issues discovered in Clery Compliance, considering the failures pointed out by the DOE, seems like that person is not doing their job. Was that a position that was eliminated in the budget? It did not appear that way based on the “eliminated positions.”
June 26, 2018 at 5:54pm For once the BoT did the right thing and selected the most qualified candidate rather than continuing the longstanding tradition of capitulating to inbred local politics. A ray of hope - and a bullet dodged.
June 26, 2018 at 4:16pm Thank you sweet baby Jesus! And welcome Cheryl Lovell! I finally have some hope!
June 26, 2018 at 2:20pm Looks like ASU screwed up big time on this one: U.S. DOE review results in $84,000 liability to Adams State "A U.S. Department of Education program review of Adams State University's Title IV funding over a 10-year period has resulted in Adams State having to return $84,351 in federal student aid... Adams State was found to be in non-compliance on two findings related to the Clery Act and Drug-Free Schools Act: An incomplete annual security report in 2013, and failure to develop and implement a comprehensive drug and alcohol abuse prevention program."
June 25, 2018 at 8:32am I’m concerned that the lack of an announcement just one week prior (as of this writing) to the first week in July indicates we will, in fact, have the local candidate, Salazar. I've also heard from a very reliable source (one who used to work with him) that Vilá is a horrendous choice. May the gods have mercy on our little (and shrinking) college. smh
June 23, 2018 at 11:01am Regarding the Mumper quote in the Courier, I believe it was illustrating why it is important to offer folks like Vila and Dupler tenure. In other words, offering tenure is necessary to get some people to take a new job and give up tenure at another school. The article would have been clearer if it had said "his former job as VP..."
June 22, 2018 at 11:40pm @June 22 7:11pm - "Karla Hardesty" and "responsible" don't belong in the same sentence, just ask her. The enrollment problems at Adams are Mumper & Carpio's fault. To answer your question, Mumper has nothing to do with enrollment. #KARLAFORPRESIDENT
June 22, 2018 at 7:11pm Can someone explain this quote from the Valley Courier? Is Dr. Mumper still in this position at Adams? I’m confused, I wasn’t aware there was someone other than Karla Hardesty responsible for enrollment? “Michael Mumper, senior vice president of enrollment management and program development for the university, said that he wouldn't have accepted his job at ASU if he wasn't tenured and the offer of immediate tenure is important to attract a high quality candidate.”
June 19, 2018 at 4:08pm I have mixed feelings about Grohowski. I don't know if he's is a "bad cop" he seemed like a good soldier who does what he's told. Sure, he could stand to be more aware and discerning when given marching orders that are unethical. I'm just saying I haven't seen any examples of him abusing his power, but I don't think he knows he has any. Can someone explain why his current employment is being brought up here, since he is no longer affiliated with ASU in any capacity? You know what? I change my mind. Grohowski did corroborate McClure's absurd accusations against Danny. That seems like a pretty clear unethical action he took of his own accord.
June 19, 2018 at 11:20am It looks like for ASU's former bad cop Paul Grohowski, his past is starting to catch up with him... Sarasota schools police chief has complicated past
June 18, 2018 at 2:40pm @1:46pm - That statement is more than "entirely irrelevant to institutional consideration" - it's a disqualifying remark because it demonstrates that Salazar's application is made in bad faith or at least for ulterior motives. ASU's administration is not a six-figure paid finishing school for politically-connected locals to transition into retirement from the comforts of their high-dollar resort ranch just across the river.
June 18, 2018 at 1:46pm Re: @10:29am During her open forum presentation on the Adams State campus (as reported on June 15 in the Valley Courier) Ms. Salazar admitted that: “A reason she has applied for the position is because when Hickenlooper's term is up she will no longer be employed. Salazar said she isn't ready to retire and wishes to return to the Valley.” This admission is of a purely personal issue that, in an unbiased process, should be entirely irrelevant to institutional consideration of any candidate.
June 18, 2018 at 11:26am Dr. Cheryl D. Lovell clearly has the most, and most relevant, higher education administrative experience of the four finalists. With Adams State in crisis in a number of contexts, relevant experience must be the primary criterion by which an appointment decision is made.
June 18, 2018 at 10:29am Although it seems likely that Marguerite Salazar’s appointment as Interim President is a fait accompli, it appeared necessary to emphasize to the Search Committee obvious concerns, shared by many having long association with Adams State, that should disqualify her from consideration Despite considerable experience in a diverse array of organizations, Ms. Salazar has no relevant experience in higher education administration - experience that is absolutely essential at such a critical juncture for ASU. Adams State has a long-standing tradition of administration dominated and misdirected by the whims of inbred small town politics, nepotism and cronyism that has imposed myopic provincial administrative constraints and resulted in the devastating long term consequences currently afflicting the institution. It light of the current crises facing ASU it is utterly nonsensical to continue this tradition, which Ms. Salazar’s appointment would epitomize, and expect a different result.
June 17, 2018 at 5:57pm 3:10pm - Yes, great question. Another question that others have posed and I’m interested in: Why is Adams seeking an interim vs. a permanent president?
June 17, 2018 at 3:10pm Thank you, editor, for ending this Hillary/Beverlee nonsense. It’s time to have a dialogue about important issues — such as the candidate interviews. What were everyone’s impressions?
June 17, 2018 at 2:11pm Hillary, an interesting comparison Hillary: Female. Beverlee: Female. Hillary: Democrat. Beverlee: Democrat. Hillary: Touted previous experience in positions of importance. Beverlee: Touted previous experience in positions of importance. Hillary: No notable accomplishments prior. Beverlee: No notable accomplishments prior. Hillary: Litany of failures – Benghazi, email scandal, failed foreign policy, presidential campaign, etc. Beverlee: Litany of failures – Persona non grata, inflamed accreditation issues, declining enrollment, etc. Hillary: Conspired against popular male (Bernie Sanders) to keep her power and position. Beverlee: Conspired against popular male (Chris Gilmer) to keep her power and position. Hillary: Exposed. Beverlee: Exposed. Hillary: Rejected by a majority of states as unfit to lead. Beverlee: Rejected by a majority of Trustees as unfit to lead. Hillary: Never accepted responsibility for failures. Beverlee: Never accepted responsibility for failures. Conclusion: Hooker boots vs. spinster shoes are about the only difference! ----Editor's Response: This comment was posted by the same Boise, ID IP address (commonly understood to be Michael Tomlin) which brought up Hillary to begin with (June 16, 2018 at 7:52am) and is now attempting to "astro-turf" a conversation with himself. This topic is now closed and this IP address (as well as the VPN used to redirect similar comments so as to appear to be from India) is being given a final spam violation warning.
June 17, 2018 at 10:32am June 14 1:39 p.m - Creating retribution seems to be an ongoing theme at Adams, whether it's getting rid of a bad president, in-fighting among staff or disagreements on what multiculturalism really means on curriculum for Counseling and how that plays out. Bad cop was a tool for the President, it's rumored, and lack of fair play... all in a school that's already struggling and will keep the numbers going down. I lost $40K as a student in this place. Run as fast as you can, somewhere else!
June 16, 2018 at 10:12am Yes, Mike Tomlin. We all know you believe that.
June 16, 2018 at 7:52am Almost as bad as Hillary winning.
June 15, 2018 at 9:53pm Re: June 15 @ 8:08pm - And thank god none of those fools were appointed. It would have been ALMOST as disastrous as having Mike Tomlin hired as president when he applied during the last search.
June 15, 2018 at 8:08pm To the comment about JFK and the appointment of the VP. Yes, that is what the Constitution calls for. The BOT could have appointed a VP - Doell, Marquez, Cary, but they probably respected the input of this group that no one likes those people. So they went outside. It makes sense. We cannot simultaneously trash our admin and then expect the Board to appoint one.
June 15, 2018 at 11:24am At this critical juncture for ASU, it is essential that ALL employees respond to the survey as requested by Dr. Nehring and, in addition to listing candidate preference in rank order, provide detailed feedback with any concerns regarding any candidate(s). Analogous to citizens' responsibility to VOTE - ONLY by providing our feedback can we insure that the Search Committee has information crucial to making their best recommendation, and hopefully forwarding concerns, to the Board of Trustees.
June 15, 2018 at 11:20am June 13th @2:04pm has a good point. If ASU is trying to recover from a public image problem and assure accreditors and students that the school is stable and recovering, why advertise and hire for an "interim president" instead of simply a "president?" Beverlee McClure was hired as president but given a 1 year contract (which Arnold Salazar and the Board foolishly renewed for three years). By tagging this high-profile presidential search as an "interim" position, it just furthers the perception that ASU is under managerial distress and without a solid direction. Even when JFK was assassinated, the USA didn't have an "interim president" in LBJ. So why does ASU perpetuate the signs of its own distress and state of disorder?
June 14, 2018 at 1:39pm After screwing around in California for a year, it looks like ASU's bad cop is back on the beat in Florida. How many more campuses will welcome the incompetence of Paul Grohowski? City of North Port, Sarasota County School District name new police chiefs
June 13, 2018 at 2:04pm If you're electing another Interim President, doesn't that say you've lost confidence in the permanence of ASU? As a student I believed I would have to beg to have credentials accepted from a school that is teetering on the brink of disaster. - Alison
June 12, 2018 at 6:54am @4:49pm - One way to stop online bullying is to take seriously a reading recommendation from a trade publication made in good faith... rather than trolling the Internet like a child with flippant remarks that are flatly unserious in nature. Bye for now!
June 11, 2018 at 4:49pm @3:58pm - Stop online bullying. Calling someone a moron is so demeaning. Your assignment is to read up on how to erase the problem of online bullying. I enjoyed the banter but now I'm done with you. Bye-bye.
June 11, 2018 at 3:58pm @3:32pm - Welcome to adulthood - where not everything is done for a grade or on a deadline, reading is a voluntary way to improve one’s intellect and become a more informed citizen in a democratic society, and the reward is not coming across as an uninformed moron on the Internet. Give it a try for 30 days free of charge.
June 11, 2018 at 3:32pm @2:36pm - I will try to start my homework on the assigned reading. However, I would like the due date and the means for reporting back to you. Would a one page, single spaced, 12 pt fontsize, APA style meet your requirements? Oh, and may I have a scoring rubric?
June 11, 2018 at 2:36pm @8:47am - You seem to have a “sit down and shut up” attitude, like top-down governance is somehow going to be an effective model for leadership at a public university. Well, here’s a good article for you: Shared Governance Works in Executive Hiring, If We Let It “In the context of executive search, communication — and in particular the open sharing of opinions and ideas — is absolutely critical. When search-committee members trust one another, listen to alternate views, and use their input productively, better hiring decisions are made. More important, the outcome of such a search has credibility and support. Even in these challenging times — perhaps especially now — our institutions are best served when all key parties work hard to enfranchise one another in governance. Ray Kroc, who built McDonald’s into one of the world’s most recognizable brands, famously opined that "None of us is as good as all of us." Even notwithstanding the self-confidence of trustees, faculty members, students, administrators, alumni, and all the other sectors that have a stake in our colleges and universities, that statement proves itself true in every search that we do.”
June 11, 2018 at 9:22am Empty accusations of sexism at ASU - the real legacy of Beverlee McClure. So let me get this straight: out of 77 “highly qualified” applicants for interim president, the very best one just happens to be the wife of the previous chairman of the Board of Trustees... who oversaw the bottoming-out of the institution? Call the math department - what are the odds on that?
June 11, 2018 at 8:47am Why are you all running your mouths and attempting to "one up" each other by inserting intellectual jargon and flamboyant opinion, when you don't have a flippin' say in this decision. It is what it is. And it will be what it's going to be. Focus on your work. You are just an employee at ASU; not a diplomat.
June 10, 2018 at 4:29pm @3:54pm precisely, I was just going to post the same thing! Apparently, no discussion in higher ed would be complete without accusations of racism, sexism, or other jousting lances of identity politics. And if one criticizes a female leader or candidate, it clearly must be sexism!That is quite McClure of 1:57pm. Or... just maybe... the last thing ASU needs is more of the usual brands of cronyism and nepotism, backdoor deals and local dynasties that infest small town politics and infect the best practices of higher education. Just maybe.
June 10, 2018 at 3:54pm Re: June 10 @ 6:29am - It is all too convenient to resort to allegations of racism and/or sexism in addressing objections expressed regarding Marguerite Salazar’s near certain appointment as Interim President. In fact, no objections expressed regarding Ms. Salazar have been either racist or sexist. Rather, they are based on concerns about continuing the long-standing traditions of nepotism, cronyism and small town politics that have adversely influenced Adams State administration and resulted in the institution’s current difficulties.
June 10, 2018 at 1:57pm June 10, 2018 at 10:12am - My only fear is that you still inhabit the halls of ASU. Your arrogance is gross. My point was that the 2 white candidates are not more qualified than Mrs.Salazar based on just these bios... also that she is not responsible for whatever her husbandhas done or said. Furthermore, a person working in academia for a shot at this position his whole life is not a qualifer above Marguerite. Clearly I must be an idiot to disagree with you. That is quite McClure of you to treat others that way.Now, enough of you... My thoughts are that there is some inherent underlying racism and sexism to some of these posts. Give people a chance. Even Armando.
June 10, 2018 at 10:12am Dear June 10 @ 9:30, My apologies if you felt I was being nasty or vile. That certainly was not my intention. My response was to correct your erroneous statement that the external candidates weren’t qualified because they had no experience as a president of an institution or running large organizations. I think the public deserves truthful facts, not someone’s uninformed opinion. My hope is that everyone will attend the forums and make intelligent, informed decisions. Not decisions based on erroneous heresay from this or any other website or individual. Thus, my contribution. Unfortunately, your statement that you are “wating [sic] to do the opposite of whatever you [I’m] advocating for” speaks more to your vile nastiness. Would you seriously jeaopardize the institution like that? Just pick a person because it’s opposite of what a stranger wants? Further, you don’t know what I’m advocating for other than the best candidate. In fact, I’ve indicated I will listen to all of them equally and make a decision then. Again, don’t make assumptions. Do some research. Try reading. Now I’m done with you and this conversation. You clearly don’t have the capacity to have an intellectual, civil conversation. And I don’t get into pissing matches with your type of ilk. Have a great day!😊
June 10, 2018 at 9:30am @June 10, 2018 at 8:00am - I stand corrected. Dr. Lovell was a president of a small for-profit osteopathic medical school. So if that qualifies her, go for it. Your tone is nasty and vile. I find myself wating to do the opposite of whatever you’re advocating for. Are you here to persuade or bully others in to believing as you do? You have stated some things as fact that I happen to know are not true. Just because you state them in another form does not make them true or intelligent.
June 10, 2018 at 8:00am Re: June 10 @ 6:29am - Actually if you READ the candidate bios available on the ASU website, you can see: 1. Dr. Lovell WAS a university president. Further if you Google her, you will READ that she was an extremely successful president—awarded the highest title possible—president emerita once she retired. 2. Mr. Bailey-Fournier has worked in the highest levels of leadership, other than president, in higher education—not insurance or healthcare administration. He has been preparing for a university presidency his entire career. 3. Yes, Mrs. Salazar is an extremely talented woman, with vast experience in a public bureaucracy AND as a political appointee. Although being a political appointee doesn’t mean you are qualified. Betsy DeVos is a great example of that! Mrs. Salazar’s only experience in higher education (according to you - I don’t see it on the ASU website) is that of member of CSU’s board of governors. While this political appointment is impressive from a “who you’re connected to point of view”, it hardly qualifies her to run a an institution of higher education. Seriously, would you want Erica Romero appointed as superintendent of Alamosa Schools or Arnold Salazar or Tim Walters appointed president of Adams State? No, it’s not the stone ages and Mrs. Salazar is not her husband’s property... Not sure why that statement is relevant. I think what many are concerned about regarding that is the continued nepotism and incestuousness of ASU’s hiring practices. But I have judged her against the other candidates based on their bios and other info I found by Googling each of them. So, yes the two not from the Valley bubble to the top. Mrs. Salazar is a strong third. Although I’d now like to see the resumes of the other 73. 4. I agree with you about Mr. Valdez. Yes, I will attend the forums and “listen to the woman”. In fact, I will listen to ALL of the candidates, giving each the benefit of the doubt. The written bios and resumes are but one part of the process. Beverlee also looked good on paper. But the board, including Arnold, didn’t actually vet her. They didn’t listen to her lack of substance. If they had, perhaps we wouldn’t be in quite the mess we are. My question to you: will you LISTEN to ALL of the candidates with an open mind and a willingness to change your mind? Will you also give Mr. Valdez the benefit of the doubt? And, no. I don’t ever make any statements or decisions off of the cuff. Just as you made assumptions about Dr. Lovell and Mr. Bailey-Fournier, you have made assumptions about me. Don’t do that. Do some research instead. You will not only be better informed, you won’t make inaccurate or unintelligent remarks.
June 10, 2018 at 6:29am A few thoughts regarding the recent thread. You have it wrong that Arnold was a big Beverlee supporter. Have you ever been on a board? Decisions are made by the group that you must support as 1 unit. Secondly, who is this person who can off the cuff say that the 2 candidates NOT from the Valley are the only qualified? It doesn’t seem like either of the two who that person thinks is qualified have actually run a University or organization. They have had high level positions, but that’s it. It really is taking a chance on either of them. I personally think that Armando is the token ASU faculty member given the opportunity. If he reallt has a chance at this I’d be surprised. However I would invite people to examine their point of views. We are in effect only highly criticizing the 2 hispanic candidates. Marguerite has an impressive resume that includes the board of governors at CSU. She’s clearly qualified to be considered. And no, you can’t disqualify someone because they are married to someone else. This is not the stone ages. Marguerite is not the property of her husband. Go to the forums and listen to the woman. If you still think she’s not a good choice, put your support to someone else. Until then, leave your typical racial and gender biases at the door.A few thoughts regarding the recent thread. You have it wrong that Arnold was a big Beverlee supporter. Have you ever been on a board? Decisions are made by the group that you must support as 1 unit. Secondly, who is this person who can off the cuff say that the 2 candidates NOT from the Valley are the only qualified? It doesn’t seem like either of the two who that person thinks is qualified have actually run a University or organization. They have had high level positions, but that’s it. It really is taking a chance on either of them. I personally think that Armando is the token ASU faculty member given the opportunity. If he reallt has a chance at this I’d be surprised. However I would invite people to examine their point of views. We are in effect only highly criticizing the 2 hispanic candidates. Marguerite has an impressive resume that includes the board of governors at CSU. She’s clearly qualified to be considered. And no, you can’t disqualify someone because they are married to someone else. This is not the stone ages. Marguerite is not the property of her husband. Go to the forums and listen to the woman. If you still think she’s not a good choice, put your support to someone else. Until then, leave your typical racial and gender biases at the door.
June 9, 2018 at 4:51pm No doubt Marguerite would drain the swamp. She would have to make room for the rest of the Salazar’s and Lara’s to have leadership roles.
June 9, 2018 at 4:02pm Wow 2:27pm, for someone who appears to understand the problem, your solution is totally and incredibly backwards. The only way that Marguerite Salazar could hope to be an effective president of ASU is to disavow, disown, and discard her husband Arnold in every conceivable way and then some. Arnold Salazar’s malpractice on the ASU Board of Trustees began in 2010 and his disastrous run as chair began in 2013.He presided over any number of failed policies, mounting and reckless finances, a toxic workplace that drove away talented faculty and great staff, declining student enrollment and the “swamp” of all those academic pond scum that you correctly name. Remember: Arnold stood behind and promoted the garbage bin presidency of Beverlee “Just Say Anything” McClure and cost the school countless dollars to get rid of her and repair the damage she’s done. He defended her over and over, attacked her critics, blatantly lied to the public, and slithered away just as the Board finally gave Beverlee the administrative axe.And yes, Arnold personally profited off the university’s Title V program while serving as board chair with what we could call “Barngate.” As the Salazar Ranch is their residential business, Marguerite profited, as well. While I don’t believe in judging one leader by their spouse (we just had an election about this matter), it’s extremely difficult to conceive of a much-needed change agent from within the same entrenched interests and small-town corruption that got us here to begin with. We can and must do better. So let’s select a leader for ASU who is competent, qualified, a fresh start, and a clean record as a force for change... not a creature of the same swamp we both agree needs to be drained. Because really, ASU is a Salazar Swamp and the Salazars won’t be in the business of draining it.
June 9, 2018 at 2:27pm Marguerite Salazar is by far the best candidate for President of Adams State University. I dare any of you naysayers put her impeccable resume up against any others, and the rest would pale by comparison. Adams State University desperately needs an interim president who will drain the swamp: Doell, Crowder, Alvarez, Guervara, and the bottom-feeders like Scott White, and the rest of the trash. The only hope ASU has for any chance of being taken seriously by the higher learning and academic institutions, the state, and local community is to send Nehring back to his playpen, demote half the administration and faculty of deadbeats, and for once in the history of Adams State LEAD THE UNIVERSITY up and out of the garbage can Beverlee McClure left it in. Let's get those President Salazar t-shirts printed!
June 8, 2018 at 11:01am Re: June 8 @ 8:53 - And Kathy Rogers, along with Marguerite Salazar’s husband, then board chair Arnold, gave us fawning reassurance about Beverlee McClure. Yeah, I don’t have much faith in Kathy Rogers or her judgment.
June 8, 2018 at 10:55am Dear June 8 @ 8:53 - The problem is that the board doesn’t want to hire a qualified individual. They would, instead, prefer to continue the deeply entrenched, sickening incestuous hiring and promotion practices that are the core of ASU’s problems. And, on the rare occasion they do hire from the outside, the person is usually incompetent. And by chance a competent individual is hired, they are inevitably marginalized and/or run off. So of 77 applicants, two are locals, who are not qualified. Two are from outside of the Valley and clearly qualified. My bet is Salazar wins the title and the qualified individuals’ visits are an exercise in futility. What is so sad or frightening—depending on your situation—this hire is critical. Everyone should be updating their resumes and CVs.
June 8, 2018 at 8:53am First came the hopeful announcement by the search committee that there were 77 well-qualified applicants for Interim President. This is now followed by the fawning reassurance of Kathy Rogers, ASU Trustee and Chair of the search committee, that: “The finalists we’ve selected reflect the extraordinary pool of talent we reviewed during the initial phase of the process” and “The finalists’ credentials are beyond impressive…” Nevertheless, Dr. Nehring’s campus-wide email announcing the four finalists shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone familiar with Adams State over the past 25+ years. Armando Valdez? Seriously? Marguerite Salazar? Does anyone really believe it is wise to continue the long-standing tradition of preeminence of local politics, nepotism and cronyism directing Adams State administration? If so, by all means do keep it all in the self-appointed first family of the SLV. (Would anyone care to wager whether the ”fix” is in re: the final selection?)
June 7, 2018 at 7:14pm Personally, I really like Armando Valdez. He’s a friendly, thoughtful, kind and considerate person. However, I’ve done enough committee work with Armando to conclude that he is often over-committed, waits until the last minute to get important tasks done, is terrible with responsive communication, and is frequently the bottleneck for completing group tasks. This was a consistent perception and experience among many committee members. On this basis alone, I cannot recommend Armando to a position like university president.
June 7, 2018 at 10:11pm Armando Valdez - Are you serious?
June 7, 2018 at 4:02pm Marguerite Salazar appears to be a walking conflict of interest and it’s unclear why she is a finalist in this interim president search. But I guess ASU is the campus where “great nepotism begins here.”
June 7, 2018 at 10:38am That evidence is circumatantial at best. If anything my IP showing as being from India only serves to demonstrate how easy it is to occult such things. Thank you for confirming that my VPN is working as intended, a precaution I took when I noticed that detractors tend to have their IPs published. ——Editor’s Response: We have never and will never publish IP addresses. We have used IP information to prevent spamming and related activities which violate submission guidelines. We have used IP addresses to note repeated comments (such as yours) from a single account for verification purposes, particularly when a comment is signed in order to authenticate the user. However, we also reserve the right not to publish comments which are off-topic or irrelevant to matters concerning Adams State University, particularly if the IP addresses would indicate a history of activity which is intended to disrupt or spam the comments page. The intentional use of a VPN to conceal IP addresses is actually among the considerations for spamming and will be factored into overall submission criteria regarding spam. All of this in response to posts by and/or about Mike Tomlin only illustrate the likelihood of continued posting by the same individual. At this point, this and related topics will be closed in the interest of furthering discussion about relevant and ongoing issues concerning ASU. References to this same topic and/or from IP addresses unrelated to the southwestern US (such as India) may be considered spam and may not be published.
June 7, 2018 at 10:08am So what I'm reading is that while you suspect that certain posts are being made by Dr. Tomlin, there isn't any actual proof. Especially considering that anyone can put on airs while they hide behind anonymity. This sort of behavior is what lends itself to the perception that this site has devolved into a place for people to shout their personal grievences into the void only to have them conflated into a cabal of malfeasiants and echoed back. ——Editor’s Response: As a point of clarification - all comments are tagged with the poster’s IP address.The string of comments over this past week regarding ASU being a business all came from the same IP address in Boise, ID.This is also the location Tomlin resides, according to his Amazon author bio. Your two posts are tagged as originating from India.
June 7, 2018 at 9:30am Dr. Tomlin - I have no intention of being drawn into a puerile online pissing contest, but I will offer the following: Some who post observations and criticisms here do so based on far longer experience with Adams State than your ca. 5+ years. Historically, it has been exceedingly rare for a department chair at Adams State to be unceremoniously removed by administrative fiat. From this perspective, your supercilious and self-righteous proselytizing has become very tiresome. Please, please give it a rest.
June 7, 2018 at 9:08am Michael Tomlin has a distinctive writing style that drips of condescension and self-certainty.He espouses a point of view that is unabashedly corporate-minded, top-down governance, sneering at dissenting views from employees.Combined, his posts are always a tell. While at ASU, Tomlin wrote in Billy Pulpit about how ASU is a business.So his ardent and delusional insistence upon re-asserting that here is par for the course. He will defend a debunked and vapid thesis to the end, merely because it is his. Now why he persists long after ASU showed him the door is a genuine mystery. Perhaps he just likes being “published” even anonymously.Or perhaps he has such antagonism for those who have rightly identified the poor leadership that got ASU into this mess that he can’t help himself. It really upsets him that McClure was removed after he sang her praises and chastised her critics. He even wrote the Denver Post to complain about this and suggested ASU’s critics are only embittered because they aren’t “successful.” Mike cannot help coming here again and again to complain about the complainers and insist nobody should be on this website. He should probably take his own advice.
June 7, 2018 at 8:10am So is Tomlin signing his posts somewhere and I'm just missing it? Or are people here so intimately familiar with him that he can be identified through his writing style alone?
June 7, 2018 at 7:59am @June 6 5:47. You're talking out of your ass, son.
June 6, 2018 at 6:22pm From this College Fix article: “Public university paid board chair $12,000 to host social-justice retreat - doesn’t even cover food”
June 6, 2018 at 6:09pm Dear June 6 @5:47pm - What do you mean “food costs extra”?
June 6, 2018 at 5:47pm If Marguerite is selected as interim president, maybe she can get ASU some great deals on more navel-gazing, hand-holding retreats to the Salazar barn! Food costs extra... but that’s okay because the real objective is to burn through Title V money before the grant cycle ends.
June 6, 2018 at 4:38pm Is anyone else suffering from “Mike Tomlin Fatigue”? How about those four Interim President candidates? Two very questionable choices — Salazar and Valdez. WHAT is the board thinking?
June 6, 2018 at 3:35pm I read Tomlin’s absurd claim that ASU is a business and his subsequent attempt to shoehorn a broad and expansive use of the term to fit his claim. It’s laughable. Not everything is a business just because Mike says so. A business is a legally-defined entity with specific criteria. State and federal education organizations, regional accreditors,popular and industry press, the IRS, grant sources and foundations all recognize ASU as a public university, not a for-profit enterprise or private organization engaged in commercial activity. As for good ASU is doing? One example is that Beverlee McClure looked at Mike Tomlin’s horrendous personnel file and promptly removed him from department chair, then Tomlin finally left ASU not long after. Then the Board finally removed McClure from her position. Both were extremely positive developments that made many people relieved.
June 6, 2018 at 11:22am To June 5 at 10:15 pm, I am sorry you did not see the definition of a business shown in a previous post. There are numerous definitions but the following is pretty industry standard: "A business is an organization or enterprising entity engaged in commercial, industrial or professional activities. A business transacts business activities through the production of a good, offering of a service or retailing of already manufactured products. A business can be a for-profit entity or a nonprofit organization that operates to fulfill a charitable mission." Yes, a charity can be a business. Non-profits can be businesses. A family reunion typically does not engage in the activities listed above - but universities hire professionals and engage in professional activities. Universities are audited, they have HR departments, payroll, etc. Some negotiate with unionized workers. They accept payment from customers - who, once paid become students, to which they provide their professional services. Most universities answer to a board of directors, and the president is not a subordinate of the Governor, nor a state department head. And yes, while ASU is a quasi-state agency, all employees are not in state retirement, and when "state employees" receive a pay raise that does not always mean all state university employees. State universities are hybrid organizations, but they are never not businesses. Your reference to what students and others believe makes no sense. If 100% of the students believe we are in D1, or B3, or NAIA, it doesn't change the fact. If 100% of the employees believe we are in the WTO and not subject to oversight from HLC that does not change the fact. Some things simply aren't opinions. Now that we've had this nice chat, how have we helped Adams move forward? LOL Is there anything nice that you can say about our university, staff, leadership, direction, campus? Did you miss a pretty nice commencement and not see all of the celebrations? Are you unaware that summer session is up and running and students and faculty are working hard? Those are such cool things. Good people are moving ASU forward every day. Get to know some and become a part of the journey. It's a much happier way.
June 5, 2018 at 10:15pm If a public university is a business, then surely a non-profit organization is a business, and a community volunteer group is a business, and a youth sports team is a business, and a family reunion is a business, and almost any form of organized human behavior is a business.The term loses all meaning when applied in this way.And it’s most certainly not what people consider a business if not a private organization in the pursuit of profit. Ask the HLC if ASU is a business.Or ask the CO Department of Education. Or simply ask most ASU students, faculty or staff.They intuitively understand that a public university is not a business. Moreover, it is jibberish to assert a state-funded school is a business.
June 5, 2018 at 9:01pm Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???? "I am certain ASU‘s main sources of operating funds are the bookstore, the cafeteria, and ticket sales to public events. Not state/federal funds and subsidized loan programs allocated to public universities." No one said those were main sources of funds. Read the post. Those were just examples of transactions that contribute to the business of ASU. And by definition, even if 100% of ASU's income came from grants, charity, or tax dollars, it would still be a business. Read the definition of a business provided in a previous post. The rest of your post is just jibberish that doesn't merit comment.
June 5, 2018 at 4:28pm Sure, Mike. I am certain ASU‘s main sources of operating funds are the bookstore, the cafeteria, and ticket sales to public events. Not state/federal funds and subsidized loan programs allocated to public universities. ASU could operate just fine as a for-profit business with you in charge. I presume you applied for the presidency and are a front runner for the job? One of us has been providing evidence based on available data... and the other has been slinging insults and empty, malfunctioning definitions that defy rational consistency. That’s certainly not debatable.
June 5, 2018 at 3:58pm To June 5 at 3:50 pm, now you just embarrass yourself with what you do not know. It is okay, but certainly not debatable.
June 5, 2018 at 3:50pm Michael Tomlin is so deeply confused about what public universities are and the definition of a business that it’s truly puzzling he ever taught business at a public university - albeit overseeing a department that violated academic integrity and landing ASU on probation. So that might explain it. Quick review - ASU’s principal funding sources are federal grants, state budget allocations, and various federal student loan programs... Not the book store, the athletic events, concerts or theatre.If ASU were to operate as a for-profit enterprise, it would shut down almost instantly. That’s among the reasons why HLC reaccreditation is important to begin with: eligibility to receive public funding in order to remain viable. Hint: it’s tax dollars. And education shouldn’t be a business.It should be a public good.That’s why almost every developed country funds tuition-free K-12 and many countries fund tuition-free higher education... most of which out-perform the USA in science, math, reading and writing. Not coincidentally, the absolute worst higher ed institutions in the USA - like University of Phoenix and the now-defunct ITT Tech - are “run like a business.”They frequently engage in predatory lending practices and vastly overstate the success rate of their graduates. This is not the model any school should emulate if they are serious about quality education. None of the elite institutions in the USA (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc.) are for-profit colleges. You know what other “school” was run like a business? Trump University.And it was a total scam that resulted in class action lawsuits and a $25M settlement.Speaking of which, I wonder what a degree from Tomlin University would be worth...
June 5, 2018 at 10:10am For those who wish to believe a public university is not a "business," see the common definition below: "A business is an organization or enterprising entity engaged in commercial, industrial or professional activities. A business transacts business activities through the production of a good, offering of a service or retailing of already manufactured products. A business can be a for-profit entity or a nonprofit organization that operates to fulfill a charitable mission." ASU is an "organization" or "entity" and it operates a book store, restaurants/cafeteria, sells tickets in return for admission to theater and sporting events, and of course exchanges the receipt of money for the delivery and provision of educational services. It is by any definition a "business." This is not say that it has been run well or managed well. There is no argument that the Trustees were under-involved in their oversight a few years back. There is no argument that missteps were made by Richardson Hall. Most of those administrators are gone. Many of the department chairs are gone. But the path to stability and improvement for the university is not through the skeletons of previous employees. You can continue to shake "documents" at Doell, decry dinner receipts, and insult supporters of the university, but you only show your smallness and irrelevance. Those who care about the university are working to strengthen it, from its core to the fringes. That's a productive approach and it's more fun. We welcome new faculty and staff to the team and embrace the good work ahead. You haters can join too.
June 4, 2018 at 4:32pm There are literally dozens of documents on Watching Adams that cannot be found anywhere on the ASU website and were only reported after this site published them. Outrageous mediation agreements, unpresidential conduct, reprehensible compensation data and salary sheets, a lying president called out by the CO AAUP, wasteful spending on fancy meals and excessive travel, internal memos and attempts to suppress information and intimidate employees... but on the ASU site, everything is great and getting better! Notice June 4 @2:26pm (aka Mike Tomlin) has no defense for the questions that June 3 @1:05pm asked regarding the “evidence” for Doell’s promotion and raise? Telling and unsurprising. Here are more questions to ponder: if “accreditation first, finances second, and customers third,” why have ASU’s finances been running a deficit since FY 2013 and why has ASU’s enrollment been dropping since 2012 - long before ASU’s academic probation in 2016? Also, students aren’t “customers” and public education isn’t a business. Sorry, Mike. Speaking of the NFL, ASU spends tuition and taxpayer dollars on its football team like it regularly sends players to the pros each year! But that’s not happening; For a decade running, ASU cannot win a majority of its D2 football games. So if management is always management, then clearly it’s management that mismanaged ASU into serious financial deficits, a disappearing student body, academic probation, and a shrinking workforce. Where’s the accountability from those in charge?Instead, we’ve seen a literal “standing strong” parade, fancy banquets and a six-figure severance package alongside padded salaries for admin to return to faculty.Yet according to (disgraced former faculty and dethroned department chair) Mike Tomlin, management has been smooth sailing for the past three years as he has been insisting that everything is great and getting better. This just in: everything is not great at ASU... and for it to get better, will require an admission that things have indeed been very bad for a considerable number of years under leadership elements that are still intact (and promoted, in Doell’s case).Consequently, the apologists like Tomlin who insist that ASU’s real problem is an optical illusion cultivated by nay-sayers now have zero credibility as the unassailable evidence to the contrary is evident in every press report, firsthand account, ledger and enrollment record.
June 4, 2018 at 2:26pm Given the lack of any evidence of "wrong doing, incompetence or corruption," it is natural for a site like this one to devolve into a no news announcement platform and insult site. Most of the announcements here are readily available in other places, and signs show a university moving forward - positively toward reaccreditation, slowly toward financial stability, and still stuck on enrollment. But there is a rule - accreditation first, finances second, and customers third. The Trustees understand this and are wisely steering the ship in the right direction. This site has also developed unrelated themes, such as the NFL. Bill Belichick touts that everyone is replaceable, and that is core to the success of the Patriots. Mike Tomlin is misquoted as saying that management is always right - when he actually said that management is always management - work for it or move on. Two great coaches, one hugely successful, and the other one very successful. Smart organizations can learn from both.
June 4, 2018 at 2:18pm June 4th 8:32 - I agree with you. If you are a new professor or a new incoming professor and want to do research to move up or out think twice about staying or accepting a teaching job at Adams State University. The longer you stay, the longer you are stuck with no where else to go. Don't let ASU ruin your career!
June 4, 2018 at 8:32am If Adams State University is a "true" University, why aren't the professors given the time to do research? The professors have some of the highest teaching loads ever seen at the University level. This does not go unnoticed. It's kind of like a high school for kids who graduated public high school, only not managed as well.
June 4, 2018 at 8:25am Lately, the purpose of this site seems to be documenting who is getting their position cut or their salary reduced versus who is getting a cushy severance package or a raise and promotion... as well as who is getting their budget cut as enrollment continues to drop. The evidence is clearly posted for all that.
June 4, 2018 at 8:01am I thought the purpose of this site was to present evidence of wrong-doing, incompetence, and corruption at ASU to the larger community. However, lately it seems that there is an excess of accusations and a shortage of actual evidence to back them up.
June 3, 2018 at 1:15pm When you aren’t good enough for one job, let’s create another one to make you feel good. #Karlaforpresident
June 3, 2018 at 1:05pm All the evidence available, huh? Here are a few questions for Mike Tomlin’s “Management Is Always Right” School of Higher Ed: - If Doell was so good at her job, why wasn’t she hired as VPAA when she interviewed? - If Doell was so good at her job, why did ASU go on academic probation under her leadership? - If Doell was so good at her job, why has ASU’s enrollment and retention fallen under her leadership? - If Doell was so good at her job, why does ASU have among the lowest graduation rates of 4 year programs in the nation? Apparently, actions have inverse consequences at ASU. If you are great at your job, you’ll be bullied into resignation. If you are terrible at your job, you’ll get a promotion and a bonus. These days, the empty suits/hats around Adams State are usually the ones in charge - which is why the school is in serious trouble.
June 3, 2018 at 10:24am To the contributor who wrote that AVPAA Doell has "for years, amply and repeatedly demonstrated a complete lack of academic integrity," you should have submitted your evidence to Dr. Nehring and/or the Board of Trustees. Based upon proper vetting of all evidence available, and her work performance, Ms. Doell was promoted. So you either sat on your evidence, or more likely you are an empty suit, a hollow hat, and you have nothing other than insults. And while I am truly not an expert on re-accreditation, I don't believe any organization ever "insulted" their way to success. If Adams is to gain a clean - or improved bill of health it will be due to the good and hard work of those involved in the effort.
June 2, 2018 at 6:20pm Let us not forget that inadequate academic integrity at the institutional level is a principle reason that HLC placed ASU’s accreditation on probation. It is therefore astonishing that Ms. Doell who has, for years, amply and repeatedly demonstrated a complete lack of academic integrity would be promoted to Associate VP -- of Academic Affairs.
June 2, 2018 at 3:17pm Yes, Mike Tomlin, those are some “alternative facts.” But if you think Doell was merely “active attending community and social events,” you don’t understand what was really happening. For those of us that do, it was clear McClure was grooming Doell as her loyal lackey at a great cost to many personal and professional relationships in the process. The campus is measurably worse off for it. And this passive characterization of Gilmer as “gone” belies a larger problem at ASU - the competent, professional, committed people who were the targets of bullying and retaliation didn’t just disappear one day out of mere preference. They were actively hunted down and chased out. At ASU, many truly great people have been run off campus while truly unqualified, vindictive and disastrous people were retained, promoted, and protected. ... Are things moving forward?With ongoing declines in enrollment, fleeing employees, declining salaries and cut positions, this hardly appears to be a campus on the ascent.
June 2, 2018 at 1:06pm An alternative translation for 11:13am is that Doell worked for the president appointed over her and was active attending community and social events. No sin there. Gilmer is gone, McClure is gone. Neither are likely coming back. Neither are relevant to today or tomorrow at Adams. We can move on. "If" Adams is to prevail in its re-accreditation quest, then it will be because of good work done by Dr. Nehring, Doell, department chairs, faculty and others. We also have a new VPAA to celebrate, and welcome. Things are moving forward.
June 1, 2018 at 11:13am Translation from 7:07am - even after Doell applied for the VPAA position and wasn’t hired, she befriended President McClure and paraded around with her to social events for years as McClure chased off VPAA Gilmer and generally wrecked things across campus. After McClure was rewarded for her incompetence with a full payout and a jeep, Doell also got a raise and a promotion. Because hey, why hire great people at ASU when you can keep promoting the poison?
June 1, 2018 at 7:07am To May 31 @ 2:20 - Dr. Nehring communicated to all employees via email on May 14th about updates on campus. In that message, he detailed additional duties and responsibilities that were given to Margaret Doell, and a corresponding promotion in rank from Assistant to Associate VP for Academic Affairs. A pay raise naturally follows a promotion.
May 31, 2018 at 2:20pm Can someone please explain how Maggie gets a substantial raise after all these cuts have been made? Her and her wife both make good money off of this Institution and not to mention the Mumper /Freeman scammers!
May 31, 2018 at 1:02pm Actually, the problem at ASU has consistently been a lack of clear, effective, accountable leadership.Blaming the faculty, staff, and students for problems that begin on the desks of upper administrators simply doesn’t cut it. And here’s another idea: how about disgraced former faculty Mike Tomlin stops posing as an ASU employee on Watching Adams with all this talk about “we” in his comments here? Tomlin was absolutely part of the problem at ASU and oversaw some of the worst abuses in course overloading that got ASU on probation to begin with... and then complained on this forum at length about how unjustified it was for ASU to be sanctioned by the HLC for online coursework with hundreds of students. So enjoy your retirement and Amazon book sales, Mike.And please stop lecturing the rest of ASU on how to solve problems that you clearly made worse.
May 31, 2018 at 9:38am Dear May 30 @3:54, thank you for exposing the single biggest problem at Adams - it's always someone else's job, someone else's failure, someone else who should be fired. Unless Karla was there, at the moment and time, then it was the job of whomever wrote the post telling the personal story. We are all "first responders" when someone talks about OUR school. You, me, everyone. Adams isn't perfect, but we can defend and relate the many very good things about it. If WE can't do that, then we should not expect "Karla" to be able to do it. And that brings up the other issue. All of you haters - fire Karla, fire Rodney, fire Ed, fire Frank, fire Erica, fire Tracy, fire Margaret, fire everybody except you.... We are moving forward positively on our accreditation, we are making headway with our budget, and we are positioning Adams for a strong and bright future. Some of you who have done nothing to help with this continually carp about who should be fired. Maybe it's you. Or maybe you should just get over yourselves and do your job, and be a good "first responder."
May 30, 2018 at 8:51pm Dear May 30 @ 3:54 - Isn’t that Karla Hardesty’s job? Major FAILURE. Can we fire her yet?
May 30, 2018 at 3:54pm Dear "Sadly" @ 12:22pm, please share with us the best arguments you used to convince her that Adams is still a great choice for many students.
May 29, 2018 at 12:22pm Sadly, I was in Denver this weekend talking to a workforce coordinator for one of the big school districts and she said she is no longer recommending Adams State University to high school students because of its bad reputation - both financially and educationally. Sadness.
May 25, 2018 at 9:54pm Hey Karla Hardesty... Enrollment is going the WRONG WAY!
May 23, 2018 at 8:41pm I love when the spring semester is over because the sidewalks at ASU are lush and green and the lawn is nice and brown. Those aerator plugs are a classy touch!
May 23, 2018 at 7:32pm Can someone please tell Karla Hardesty that people not registering until later and later is directly related to her lack of energy and strategy for enrollment! Yet another Valley Courier article discussing the reasons enrollment is down with no plan for change presented. The community is tired of reading this WITHOUT an action plan! ASU projects 3 percent enrollment decrease, tuition and rates the same
May 20, 2018 at 8:51am I’m hitting a paywall on the WSJ article. Can someone post the relevant excerpt? ----Editor's Reply: We've provided a PDF version here. The relevant excerpt is: Behind the rancor is a competition for cash. Top tier schools continue to thrive but many universities are facing declining enrollment and public cuts in funding. Hostilities between faculty and administrators can impugn a school’s reputation and lead to high administration turnover that can affect enrollment and ding the school’s credit rating, said Susan Fitzgerald, an associate managing director at Moody’s Investors Service. The credit-ratings firm downgraded the standing of the University of Missouri, Birmingham Southern University, Adams State University and Howard University in part because of turnover of senior management. “The real question is can universities keep up with the pace of change? I think we’re going to see a lot more of this,” Ms. Fitzgerald said.
May 20, 2018 at 5:56am I’m curious about the article posted re; no confidence votes of University leadership. Is there a suggestion that this be done at Adams? ----Editor’s reply: This Wall Street Journal article mentions Adams State’s credit downgrade and was posted for that reason. The context in which it is included could also be relevant for discussions about a growing lack of confidence in university leadership nationwide.
May 17, 2018 at 9:47am @May 15 comments - I agree, congratulations to Dr. Chris Gilmer. It is so true that good things happen to good people! Evil spirits could not dampen his quest to serve students and community. Adams State's loss. So damn frustrating.
May 16, 2018 at 5:30pm The Romero’s are poison to Alamosa and Adams State. How is Erica, who still does not have a bachelors degree, employeed by ASU? She has destroyed the morale of Alamosa School District through her alterior hiring/firing motives and will eventually weasel her way to the top of ASU if she is not stopped. Erica is an evil person. Her husband is a snake in the grass who can’t be trusted. Hiring Jason for the baseball position would be a massive mistake! Go back to Albuquerque, Romero’s! You’ve worn out your welcome in Alamosa!
May 15, 2018 at 10:15pm So... can anyone lend anything to the rumor that Erica Romero’s husband, Jason, is going to be the next baseball coach at ASU? I understand that the current coach isn’t getting the job done, but he is Larry’s boy. I also understand that Romero is a hothead and got into a shoving match with a coach from another school this weekend. Hmmmm. Sounds like someone we need to hire. A bully like those in power now. Didn’t the baseball team only win 2 games this year? Change is needed, but not with the Romeros. They need to be run out of town, like the others from Albuquerque!
May 15, 2018 at 2:44pm Adams State 0; Chris Gilmer 1. Winner!
May 15, 2018 at 1:31pm Congrats to Dr. Chris Gilmer, "the new president of West Virginia University at Parkersburg" according to The Parkersburg News and Sentinel. You know, if Adams State wasn't such a massively dysfunctional place led by hostile and incompetent administrators, Dr. Gilmer would be leading the school into a bright future. But here, the corruption rises to the top and the virtuous are chased out of town!
May 15, 2018 at 11:20am Last line of Matt Nehring’s memo: “I appreciate your continued commitment to Adams State...”. Really, Matt? Those who were forced out were probably the most committed, but commitment to Adams State has never mattered, so why try to fluff it up now so the public can think you actually care?
May 15, 2018 at 7:06am Re: May 14th - I'm so sorry to hear this. Let me count the ways ASU has screwed over their nursing students. In the past 6 years, at least, nursing students have been dealing with a moving target when it comes to reaching their potential success. Changes in course requirements, grading scales, and staff have been occurring overnight, leaving students in the dark and confused. The discrepancy that exists when it comes to disciplinary actions towards students is pervasive. Nursing students with JOBS and FAMILIES of their own don't know what their course schedule is until a few days before term. Students have had to rally for attention, to Svaldi (happily retired), Novotny (still employed), later to McClure (gone, thank goodness), and to Doell (promoted), and for what? They continue to get screwed by a system that consistently works against them. Many of the changes that occurred after Dr. Elliott was removed were welcomed, but in true ASU form, it comes at a cost to the student not to those who are culpable (see names above) for the situation they're having to overcome.
May 14, 2018 at 10:19pm Regarding Matt Nehring’s campus wide email tonight. I’m extremely disappointed in him—especially with regard to Margaret Doell’s promotion. How can anybody recommend anything other than her firing for her culpability in this mess? She’s still hanging with the former president (check her FB page). She is such a failure! Matt has proven he is no better than his predecessors who put us in this position. But of course, he is going back to be Frankie’s colleague (friend). Yeah Matt, it was easy for you to come in, make a few minor changes, wash your hands and return to the faculty. And you will likely continue to complain about the decades of incompetence and bitch about new leadership and their incompetence. But really, what did you bring to the table? A bunch of BS. You fired good people. You ran good people off. And you KEPT the incompetence that continues to plague this institution — including yourself. Nice work, Matt. Your agenda was realized at the expense of good people. Nice work. SMH!
May 14, 2018 at 7:40pm The following anonymous message was sent to Watching Adams on May 14, 2018 at 7:40pm and may be of interest to our readers: Adams State Nursing Program has not provided the education required to the students during the four year degree program and is now preventing 12 senior students from receiving their diploma 2 days before graduation due to a predictor exam that was implemented only for job security of the professors and the security of the program. This predictor exam is used as other Universities as exit exams but does not determine whether they can receive their degree or not. Students were suspected of cheating in the first predictor exam and the intern president and director of the program promised something would be done to those students and instead are letting them graduate. Myself and other students have passed all of our courses and this one test that should be used as a practice exam is determining whether I can be a nurse or not; that is what the NCLEX is for. We are united and we will fight until justice is done.
May 14, 2018 at 2:40pm The Chronicle Vitae has two very ASU-relevant articles this week. Both are worth a read! Do I sign the severance agreement? Do I negotiate? Hire a lawyer to send a threatening letter? You’re Not Just Leaving Academe, You’re Leaving Your Students
May 11, 2018 at 7:49am "Slavery is a system of brute force. It must be met with its own weapons." - Frederick Douglass This trend not hiring or keeping people of color has to stop. How have they safeguarded against such accusations? By putting people of color on hiring committees that have sold themselves out. When all you're out for is self-preservation, don’t be surprised when you’re all alone in your greatest time of need.
May 3, 2018 at 2:10pm Who cares about ASU's Guaranteed Tuition if the student fees are the highest in the state? From The Criterionat Colorado Mesa University: “The highest four-year institutional fees were from Western State Colorado University, with $3178 per year, and Adams State University, with $3704 per year. Though these universities boast some of the lowest tuition ($6624 and $5736 respectively, for 30 credit hours), their student fees are the highest. The average four-year institutional student fees for 2017-2018 is $2086, a number that is more than double CMU’s current fees.“ So ASU's student fees are about 77% higher than the state average? Are the campus services 77% better for ASU's students? Doubtful. This seems like the high cost of a fixed tuition program to me.
April 29, 2018 at 5:32pm Any thoughts on who the next interim will be?
April 29, 2018 at 4:50pm ...and we love and miss you, Meagan! Adams benefited from your passion, your candor, and your student-centric focus. Your presence made us stronger, your absence is keenly felt.
April 28, 2018 at 10:30pm Regardless of the negative comments that were made, I will always of a strong love for Adams State University and the San Luis Valley. - Meagan Smith
April 28, 2018 at 7:55pm The words "love me some ____" is a commonly-used turn of phrase and perfectly acceptable in conversational English. This is the comments section of a website, not a PhD dissertation or literary work. Ya'll need to chill out, calm down, and focus on the real issues ASU faces. Get over yourselves. For reals, yo.
April 28, 2018 at 3:17pm Reading all of the recent posts I saw no assumptions about race. There was a question about education level regarding English language skills.
April 26, 2018 at 11:02pm April 26 @ 9:27am - 1. Meagan's post (which she has admitted to making) indicated "I was responsible for the Valley and Texas. I will take the compliment anyway." Yes clearly Meagan posting. 2. You are making assumptions about my race/ethnicity, my employer, etc. How are you so certain I'm not an African American trying to "learn you some ethnic dialects"? Be very careful about pot/kettle, my friend. I stand by my statement that the comment "learn you some English" was in extreme poor taste--for a myriad of reasons--one of which is blatant racism.
April 26, 2018 at 7:07pm ASU what a shit hole it has become. Morale is low, enrollment is down, great and good faculty have left. More budget cuts! Still not understanding why Tracy Rogers, Ana Guevara, Scott White, Kevin Daniels, school board prez Erica Romero are paid high dollar and didn’t take a voluntary cut in pay. Retired employees or employees who have left - come back and takeover positions. Some individuals need to leave because they’ve been at ASU for too damned long. Some faculty and staff need to resign as they are horrible instructors and employees. So glad I’m out and my girls WILL NEVER ATTEND ASU. CU BUFF FAN FOR LIFE!
April 26, 2018 at 5:22pm @ 4/24 9:49 - The most recent Valley & Western Slope rep was May Mercandante - fired in early March. Texas rep Phil Romero quit in early April.
April 26, 2018 at 1:22pm I made the April 24th @ 9:49pm comment and I have no idea how race got involved in this conversation. So silly! - Meagan Smith
April 26, 2018 at 9:27am @ 10:22, The post was not signed and since it referred to a "Ms. Meagan Smith," it seemed the writer was not she. I think most viewers of this site must work for ASU. However some do not, do not know all of the employees, and do not know the ethnicity of all who respond or are referenced here. To your point on racism, what would have been blatantly racist would be to assume and assign race to a written word or phrase. That is the type of racial stereotyping we should be avoiding, not encouraging.
April 25, 2018 at 10:22pm Re: April 25 @ 8:51 - Wow! I'm not sure what is more offensive or ignorant about your comment... 1. Clearly Meagan is the person who posted about her "loud mouthed" self. Given she is a black woman, and there is an accepted "black dialect" which she was using, your "Take you some English class" comment is so racist, it defies logic or common human decency. OR 2. Let's assume you didn't realize this was Meagan. What does it say about you and your opinion of our students? Either way, your comment is more indicative of the ass you are than anything else. And this comes from a non-Meagan fan.
April 25, 2018 at 10:14pm What? This does not make sense... They should have kept the loud mouth Valley representative! Annoying yes, difficult to work with yes, getting the job done HELL YES!
April 25, 2018 at 8:51pm April 24, 2018 at 9:49, "Love me some Adams State." How about "Take you some English class." I do hope you are a student admitted on academic probation, and not a junior or senior.
April 24, 2018 at 9:49pm I'm assuming you are referring to Ms. Meagan Smith. I was responsible for the Valley and Texas. I will take the compliment anyway. Lol! Love me some Adams State.
April 24, 2018 at 5:59pm @4/21 - No one said Del Tondo wouldn't do a good job. HOWEVER: it is highly inappropriate for the search committee chair & the individual charged with receiving applications, resumes and letters of interest, to be selected for the position! DUH! In more important news: IS ANYONE WORKING IN ADMISSIONS? Texas moved on to a bigger and brighter future. Arizona & New Mexico is in charge ()! The admissions representative calendar is EMPTY! They should have kept the loud mouth Valley representative! Annoying yes, difficult to work with yes, getting the job done HELL YES! #KARLA4PRESIDENT
April 21, 2018 at 5:58pm I disagree I think Bruce will do a great job. He has experience with sitting on construction project committees for years.
April 16, 2018 at 8:39pm Del Tondo is supposed to be the chair of the facilities search committee. If he is indeed taking over the department it would take everything to a whole new level. ASU Current Position Openings
April 16, 2018 at 5:55pm It’s sad that retired people that went back to ASU still have their jobs while others who needed the tenure have to go. People who quit get to return, as well. If Del Tondo is the new director, let’s see how much enabling and bailing out he’ll do.
April 15, 2018 at 6:49pm I heard they hired Bruce DelTondo as facility services director beginning June 1st.
April 15, 2018 at 4:41pm Re: April 15 @3:29 - But didn't you know it's not Karla's fault! It's Eric Carpio's and Dr. Mumper's faults! #karlaforpresident!
April 15, 2018 at 3:29pm The department of admissions is now short 1 director and 2 (TWO) admissions recruiters! Karla for President! I can't wait to see the freshman numbers for fall. Let alone the retention numbers! I hear tell Karla is trying to recruit her next set of employees out of athletics! WOW! There's a bright idea. Karla, the hardest direction to point at is yourself. Admit that you have no idea what you are doing! Everybody already knows! Resign Karla, before they fire you. It will look better on your resume.
April 14, 2018 at 6:02pm I noticed some other revealing language in this Valley Courier article: "Bricker liked the idea. She added, “We don’t want someone to just use this as a stepping stone. You want someone who is a little bit more committed.” ... This is especially sad when thinking about the number of faculty and staff who saw ASU as their home and wanted to stay but were chased out. So many people who would otherwise form roots in Alamosa are treated as though ASU is a stepping stone - one that is pulled out from under them. "The trustees talked about the key needs of the university right now. Some of those include improving enrollment, retention, the university’s financial condition and the relationship between the president and board." ... Yup, these are literally all the things that McClure failed at. Why did Arnold and Company offer her a three year extension to her contract when she was already failing to do these things a year in? And then the Board paid out her contract completely for shoddy work - even as they cut salaries and positions of 35 people for no fault of their own? Is the Board going to talk about that at all? Or is this an executive body that is in constant, non-reflective deliberation? "Lueck said the process needs to allow for transparency as well, and community meetings might be a part of the process... Trustee Rogers said the vacancy announcement could be clear about what the board’s priorities are, and the candidates could tell the board during their interviews how they might “help us get there.” ... Does it strike anyone else as odd that they are just now talking about this process? They removed McClure from office two months ago and no doubt have been talking about doing so for many months (years?) before that. Why are they just now discussing how to start the process of hiring a new president months after formally removing the previous one from office? And overall, I still don't get the sense that this board fully appreciates how bad the situation at ASU is - for students, employees, and the community. Where's their skin in the game? What are the stakes if they fail? Arnold spent something like 8 years on the board and managed to personally enrich himself during the process - even as the school had the bottom drop out from under it on many levels.
April 14, 2018 at 5:13pm Not sure if the trustees are praying, laughing, or crying in the VC photo. Judging from the two fresh boxes of tissues on the table, perhaps the latter? To answer April 14, 2018 at 3:44pm, I'd like to see the following qualities: - An independent-minded leader who will not be drawn into the viper's nest of cronies and who will clean house - An ethically-minded leader who believes in and upholds the ideals of higher education - A team-building leader who truly welcomes ideas and active participation from faculty, staff, and students - A community-minded leader who embraces, values, and nurtures the symbiotic relationship of the campus and the Valley - A healing leader who will acknowledge and address the pain and damage inflicted by ASU in recent years - A daring leader who knows that ASU's precarious future depends upon bold, decisive, innovative action - A coalition-oriented leader who can forge the educational, fiscal, and legislative connections crucial to ASU's survival That'll do for a start.
April 14, 2018 at 3:44pm Enlightening article in the Courier today about ASU's search for a new president. Hints at where McClure fell short: real knowledge of higher ed, our culture, leadership, and keeping the board informed. Of special note, wanting to be part of our community. (In contrast to mocking it?) I sure hope they will survey what's left of the campus. Many vocal critics here on WatchingAdams, so what do we think? For example, the article mentions higher ed experience not being critical. No, maybe not essential, but I definitely think it is desirable. That experience is likely to include knowledge that will help with other issues: financial, legislative, culture, recruitment and retention (of faculty and students). The idea that it's a buyer's market when it comes to faculty is fatally flawed. When faculty leave, students are impacted negatively in ways many people don't understand or appreciate.
April 14, 2018 at 2:07pm Plenty of interesting subtext to explore in today's ASU Begins President Search article. The trustee banter is as much about what was wrong with their last selection as what they hope to see in their next: “Really what we need is a president that wants to be a part of the community and culture.” "Bricker also talked about the need to find someone who had cultural appreciation and knowledge." "Lueck said the three areas she believed should be enhanced in the announcement summary were: relationship building in the community and in general; ability to work well with entities such as the Higher Learning Commission; and financial skills to deal with ASU’s current challenges." Translation: Not like Beverlee.
April 13, 2018 at 10:21am I can't believe the Teflon Don is still with this place, it sickens me!
April 12, 2018 at 7:05pm April 12 @5:15 - So Frank and Ellen Novotny get away with theft and racketeering. Frank's CLEAR culpability for the mess he helped to create with Svaldi, Mansheim, and Rogers is forgiven by a "voluntary" salary reduction? Are you f'ing kidding me!?! I would LOVE to know by just how much his salary has been reduced. I mean, considering he's picked up 5 additional hours in overload this semester with Astalos' resignation. Yeah! Let that sink in! His wife was bragging about it at the all campus meeting the other day. When will those two thieving leeches be driven off of this campus? Or I digress, perhaps these decisions shouldn't have been made by insiders... too many friends, too many agendas. This is sickening AT BEST!
April 12, 2018 at 5:15pm ----Editor's Note: We have published the list of positions affected by the 2018 Financial Action Plan.
April 12, 2018 at 9:43am @April 5, 2018 8:20 p.m. - They should have used the shot of her in Halloween costume, as the wrecked plumber. It's actually likely more HER.
April 9, 2018 at 12:30am ----Editor's Note: Per reader requests, we have published ASU's program self-assessment reports for Athletics, Operations, President's Office, Student Services, Undergraduate and Graduate programs. Thank you for your patience in anticipation of these documents.
April 8, 2018 at 8:05am “Mission: ASU’s mission is to educate, serve, and inspire our diverse populations in the pursuit of their lifelong dreams and ambitions.” Notice how "educate" comes first. No where does it say "entertain with mediocre sports teams." Even considering "inspire," the only inspiring team record here belongs to our runners.
April 7, 2018 at 9:37pm Given that the largest budget cuts are to academics - including tenured faculty positions and administrative assistants who manage graduate programs, how much longer before Adams State becomes a college again?
April 7, 2018 at 9:24pm Did they fire President Hardesty?
April 7, 2018 at 3:02pm From today's Valley Courier article: "A total of 45 people are impacted from the staff changes, which equals 11 percent of ASU’s fulltime benefits-eligible workforce. Two positions were eliminated in the president’s office, which impacts two people. However, the changes that cut three from the chief operating officer’s department affects five people and the vice president for student service’s five eliminated positions only affects two people. Twelve people in the athletics department are impacted by the plan and one position has been eliminated. Academics, which saw the largest cut, therefore sees 24 people impacted as 16 positions are terminated."
April 7, 2018 at 8:59am I would like to know how many departments had to cut positions? I can probably guess some that didn't lose anyone and probably some that even had promotions. Sad, sad day at ASU!
April 7, 2018 at 6:42am @April 6, 2018 at 10:07pm: Remember, 42% of our students are athletes. Athletics makes money at Adams, academics doesn't. What I'd like to know is - of the nine involuntary cuts/reductions/eliminations/terminations (people) - how many are administration vs. faculty vs. classified?
April 6, 2018 at 10:07pm So, the smallest cut in absolute dollars and as a percentage is to athletics, while the largest cut in dollars and as a percentage is to academics? WTF? Are professors' jobs to pretend to teach athletes so that they can compete?
April 6, 2018 at 5:40pm I would love to know who was cut in administration to come up with $740,838? Also, was McClure's "little" exit package factored into the $2.7 million deficit, or did that just become $3,000,000?
April 6, 2018 at 11:06am According to paragraphs 13-17 of McClure's Settlement Agreement, she is fleeing campus with another $250,000, a 2015 Jeep, and a laptop computer. Must be nice when failing at your job results in winning so many prizes at the end of the show! Just remember this when you hear about ASU employees being terminated for the administration's financial mismanagement.
April 5, 2018 at 8:20pm Valley Courier, wow. Could you have made your Beverlee McClure image any bigger? Gives one quite a jolt. Once I recovered and read on, I ran into this beauty: ASU Trustees "...look forward to a stronger, more financially stable institution, one comprised of exceptional talent and dedication from a broad spectrum of stakeholders." "Broad spectrum of stakeholders"? Look around you. Who's left? You're still lopping heads even as you dribble empty platitudes for the press. The ranks of "exceptional talent and dedication" at ASU are not just thinned. They're gone.
April 5, 2018 at 8:10pm Further to April 5, 2018 at 2:35pm: "...poised to make courageous decisions...". Courageous like what...like terminating tenured faculty? Is this your definition of courageous, Bev? I call it reprehensible. Utterly, tragically reprehensible. How does a university ever recover from such a Rubiconian action? What faculty past, present, or future would ever trust such an institution? Trust is a fragile thing, easily broken. Mistrust is deep waters, a long lasting current.
April 5, 2018 at 2:35pm From today's Valley Courier: Dr. McClure, in a statement to the trustees, said she is proud of the accomplishments the university achieved since 2015. “I believe this current board is poised to make courageous decisions about the future of Adams State University and to build on the many successes since 2015. I wish Adams State University and the San Luis Valley the very best.” Does anyone seriously believe ASU is in better shape than it was in 2015? The list of McClure's accomplishments include: driving away students, driving away faculty, driving away staff, driving up debt, driving down the university's reputation, and then driving out of town with a half million dollars. Great job, Beverlee!
April 5, 2018 at 7:20am Fake news, making ASU great again, she really is Donald Trump in a lousy disguise.
April 5, 2018 at 6:01am ...Vituperative, contemptible, and also laughably prone to libelous statements. Danny is no “stalker”; he’s a citizen journalist of the highest caliber. Bev should take care not to open herself up to a defamation suit.
April 5, 2018 at 3:28am Beverlee McClure via LinkedIn 4/4/18 - "The board of trustees at Adams State University and I reached a mutually agreeable settlement. My resignation was effective March 31, 2018. Despite the fake news story generated by my stalker, Danny Ledonne, the separation was due to a change in priorities by the current board. I am going to take some time to determine my next adventure. I will enjoy being a private citizen for awhile—especially since stalking a private citizen versus a public figure is illegal." ----Editor's Response: Take care, Bev. This proclamation is news to me; I don't visit any of McClure's social media and, now that she is unaffiliated with ASU, I have no interest in spending another moment of my time thinking about such a vituperative, contemptible person. - Danny Ledonne
April 4, 2018 at 8:46pm Faculty - particularly tenured faculty - shouldn't be terminated at all absent a situation of true fiscal exigency. Even then, position elimination (faculty termination is what I'd call it) should still be a last resort course of action. Eliminating a dozen or so faculty positions without declaring fiscal exigency does not sound like a last resort move. It sounds like the easy way out of a financial challenge, without any regard for appropriate practices. It sounds like an administration that does not respect the primacy of faculty. Besides knowing who else is getting the axe, I'd like to know is *how* these faculty are being selected for termination. Was there an established process/rubric? If so, was it developed in concert with faculty? And was it shared transparently? Rhetorical questions, largely.
April 4, 2018 at 8:18pm April 4 @ 7:30 - "laid off"... that's an interesting way to say "position eliminated". I mean, no chance Roger will ever be back.
April 4, 2018 at 7:30pm So it's circulating on social media that Robert Astalos is taking a job in Denver and that Roger Eriksen was laid off - both stated on their Facebook accounts. These are likely just the first of many departing faculty. Who else do we know is not returning in the fall?
April 3, 2018 at 12:08pm @March 30, 2018 at 12:22pm - All units (operations, athletics, student life) had to submit self reports. They were all linked in the email Matt sent last month.
April 2, 2018 at 8:43pm @April 2, 2018 at 6:05pm - Judging from the deafening silence, that looks to be about the sum of it. "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What one trusts to be truths, turn into compromises. And what is called resignation is confirmed desperation." - Thoreau
April 2, 2018 at 6:05pm It seems like we have a Tale of Two Colorado Campuses. At Fort Lewis, active and engaged faculty have an AAUP chapter, faculty took a proactive approach to addressing budget shortfalls, directly communicated an alternative plan with AAUP support to the administration, and spared every tenure track position from being cut. At Adams State, scared and silent faculty were hesitant to form an AAUP chapter, faculty took a reactive approach to budget shortfalls while their ranks thinned from attrition and a culture of bullying, and now they sit in quiet desperation as a dozen tenure track positions are planned for elimination. There's a lesson in here somewhere for the future of faculty across this country.
March 31, 2018 at 5:20pm Someone asked what the FLC faculty did to save jobs. I was told they went through the budget with a fine-toothed comb looking for ways to balance the budget without eliminating faculty positions. They then proposed, in a letter to their administrators, an alternative strategy to address the budget shortfalls.
March 31, 2018 at 1:55pm It is beyond comprehension how Karla Hardesty can keep a position is which she has failed at over and again. Name one business in which an employee consistently fails to meet requirements and keeps their job? Anywhere else, this person would be let go. Someone really needs to get a backbone and deal with this. It makes me wonder if the BoT has just accepted ongoing enrollment decline and ultimate ASU failure. Where is the fighting spirit of this university? Come on! Dig in and make hard decisions, people!
March 31, 2018 at 7:17am Embedded within the Fort Lewis college piece is a link to the letter the Colorado AAUP wrote to Fort Lewis administration a couple of months ago. Everyone should read it, as there is much that applies directly to us. Elimination of faculty should be the last consideration, not the first. The comment about concern for administrative cherry-picking of faculty got my particular attention (top of p. 2).
March 30, 2018 at 7:05pm So nice news on a Friday. Academic Affairs is proposing cutting tenured and tenure-track faculty by a dozen positions. A dozen! Is this 10% of the faculty body? Or is it more than 10%, given the flight of faculty in recent years? Is this really “right-sizing”? Or is it just part of a continuing “strategy” to slowly but steadily turn out the lights? How do we engage in our primary business of education without educators? And will ASU’s dwindling pool of educators take a stand in defense of their more vulnerable colleagues? Or will they continue to lay low in the name of short term self-preservation? So many questions.
March 30, 2018 at 3:50pm In looking over the proposed staffing changes (academic only) I notice that chemistry and physics are lumped together, with the recommendation of only one tenure/tenure track loss. I certainly hope with Robert Astalos' departure next week, this doesn't mean that Frank Novotny will slide by - keeping his job despite his role in creating this mess AND maintaining his exorbitant salary! Truth be told, he should be brought up on racketeering charges.
March 30, 2018 at 1:34pm From this week's proposed staffing changes, it looks like there could be cuts to: Business, Art, Math, Psych, Soc, Chemistry, Teacher Ed, English, Comm, and HAPPS. Meanwhile, the proposal suggests adding to HPPE - the major most popular with student athletes. Is it just me or is ASU becoming even more of a "jock school?"
March 30, 2018 at 12:22pm March 28 @6:51am - Not that I can find.
March 28, 2018 at 6:51am Are there self reports for departments like HR, OEO, Computing Services, Cleary, PD, or Admissions? Looks like all the reports posted are for academic programs.
March 27, 2018 at 11:05pm March 27th at 10:31pm - Is it a rumor that ASU hasn't had an Admissions Director since August 2017 or that the search for one was failed? Is it a rumor that enrollment continues to plummet? Is it a rumor that faculty and staff have left in droves? Is it a rumor that the university is facing consecutive financial losses? Is it a rumor that the previous president ran off good people while putting up voodoo mirrors in her windows? These are all facts, my friend. Maybe you should stop laughing long enough to pay attention to what's really happening to Adams State.
March 27, 2018 at 10:31pm This forum is hilarious! Does anyone actually do some fact checking before jumping on here to share rumors?
March 27, 2018 at 9:01pm @Don Connell - I guess certain people’s PDQ’s being changed or reallocation haven’t happened in the last 5 years. I guess maybe a posting at RH for a Mechanic III that was there for only about 15 minutes didn’t happen. My sincerest apologies.
March 27, 2018 at 8:43pm Karla can & will make Adams State Great Again, just examine the evidence. - No director in admissions since August 2017. Don't worry, it saved money. - No Texas, New Mexico or Arizona travel. It saves money. The 2 counselors assigned to those territories are very busy people. - Fire the Valley and Western Slope counselor in the middle of the most important recruiting time in the history of Adams State. It saves money. - Enrollment is down historically, not because of THE Director of Enrollment Management, but, because of everyone around her. #FAKENEWS
March 27, 2018 at 2:10pm For the misinformed individual making the comment about the structural trades department giving raises/promotions. It isn't happening! I wish I knew why so many people who comment here do so anonymously. If you have something to say, say it! Then, stand behind it! Get your facts straight. First and foremost. - Don Connell
March 26, 2018 at 9:27pm March 26, 2018 at 7:53pm - I’m sure if someone reached out to the Fort Lewis AAUP chapter, we could readily learn how they put together their analysis and alternate budget proposal.
March 26, 2018 at 7:53pm I read the commentary about Fort Lewis and followed all the links to the news articles, but unfortunately couldn't find any details about the alternative plan for budget cuts proposed by their faculty. Does anyone have any information on this? How did they save faculty positions? I also noted their voluntary severance package was much, much better than ASU's. In some cases, they offered a full year of pay, 4x ASU's maximum. I guess that's to be expected given our low pay and lack of tuition breaks for dependents.
March 26, 2018 at 3:13pm March 26 @ 8:35 - #KarlaforPresident? WTF? ----Editor's Reply: We detect some sarcasm today. Folks are feeling punchy after Spring Break.
March 26, 2018 at 8:36am How can Facility Services give raises to certain people too? Structural seems to do that from time to time and is this a time to do it?
March 26, 2018 at 8:35am The only recruiting work that continues to be done in admissions is by the transfer coordinator and the Colorado Springs admissions counselor. #KarlaforPresident
March 23, 2018 at 1:43pm GEN | Adams State Athletics Business Manager Position Opening Sports Information Director Mar. 13, 2018 General While Adams burns financially, Larry is adding a full time position to help Dianne Lee, the SWA. How, in the current state of Adams State, can this even be allowed? Anybody? Larry has it made now. He can play AD even more now. Dianne Lee, for all her beliefs in Equal Opportunity, women’s rights in the workplace, and Title IX, is a fraud. She makes 1/3 the salary of Larry the AD and his boss Damon the Assoc AD. As far as team sports, increase football and wrestling as a recommendation? What? The ASU wrestling program is a joke. Lazy coach. Football needs downsizing. Will 20 more athletes create success? More of the same. The RMAC is no longer affordable for an Adams State. Travel expenses are far too great. Have some leadership, Larry. Stand up to the RMAC Commissioner on his expansion. All it has done is price out an Adams State. Oh well, too late. Start your own conference. Western, Pueblo, Mines, Ft Lewis, etc. Realign. Have a vision for the future. But instead, Larry and Damon will ride off in the sunset hand in hand. Larry will remain in the Valley and Damon will leave here as he has said privately. Damon has benefited from a donor that put $1 million in “his” Foundation account. If asked, this donor would have released some money to help the university... but do you think Damon even asked? Not if it hurt his domain. This donor could easily give another $1 million but Damon keeps this guy to himself.
March 23, 2018 at 9:19am At the last minute, President Thomas stepped in and declared that no tenured or tenure-track people will be eliminated as part of the budget reductions. This is at Fort Lewis. But they didn't have McClure, Svaldi, Novotny, and Mansheim running their show.
March 22, 2018 at 8:33pm March 19 @ 7:38pm - Who are those foreign ladder climbers? Who is knowledgeable about higher education?
March 20, 2018 at 7:35pm To 7:57pm from 7:38pm: Mmm, you have a point. Perhaps they’re all gone at this point? They came, they saw, they ducked, they departed. And as we’re just about to embark on broad layoffs, we’re certainly in no position to be attracting fresh new voices. If we should ever be again, I hope we adopt a new orientation towards them of listening, valuing, and embracing their innovative ideas.
March 20, 2018 at 9:19am 7:38pm has got it right. That's what I was thinking when I posted the pointer to the Chronicle article. The thought of VP Cary, Doell, or Marquez makes me nauseous, ready to abandon all hope. I believe Gilmer was in that middle ground, ready to embrace the Valley and eager to share fresh perspectives on best practices in higher education, as were many of the faculty and staff who were driven away by an inept and insecure administration.
March 20, 2018 at 8:44am 10:30pm - Now according to Karla Hardesty, the declining enrollment is Dr. Mumper's and Eric Carpio's fault--despite their record breaking enrollments in prior years (yes plural). And yes, Karla believes she could be a college president. If it weren't so sad, it might be funny.
March 19, 2018 at 10:30pm @March 19 7:12 - While you are at it, let's just make Karla Hardesty the new President. Her record as Executive Director of Enrollment Management clearly indicates she has earned it!
March 19, 2018 at 8:00pm March 19 @ 7:12 - Oh good grief, I hope you jest! Any of those idiots would seal our fate! Part and parcel for our amazing decline!
March 19, 2018 at 7:57pm March 19 @ 7:38pm - And who might s/he or they be?
March 19, 2018 at 7:38pm March 19, 2018 at 7:12pm - Somewhere between the hapless home folk without a clue and the foreign ladder climbers without scruples are the many who come to Adams from elsewhere, ready to embrace the Valley and eager to share fresh perspectives on best practices in higher education. They are the ones that Adams rejects at its own peril. Look to them for the path forward. If there is still time.
March 19, 2018 at 7:12pm 5:53 PM makes a very good point with the Chronicle essay. Home folks look ugly so you bring in the fast talker. Once exposed, you give them a bag of money and the bum's rush out the door. Take pictures of the moving van. Now, it's time to take a new look at the home folks. Let's rally with who we know, warts and all. Let's show support for helping us move forward. We can all suck it up a bit. Let's have interviews in short order and the Board can appoint VP Cary, Doell, or Marquez. Time's ticking. What do we have to lose?
March 19, 2018 at 5:53pm Sound familiar? From the Chronicle Vitae: Another New Provost, Terry McGlynn, March 19. How relentless administrative turnover makes it hard for me to do my job as a faculty member. "We keep hiring provosts who want to be presidents. And we keep hiring folks who have no connection to our university, nor to our geographic area. These folks don’t appear to have an intrinsic motivation to follow through on what they’ve started." "most of the interims have been better than most of the permanents" "As faculty members, how can we deal with an administrative merry-go-round?" "While the university exists to serve students, the faculty and staff are the only ones who plan to stick around for more than a few years. We decide what our community is. When we get new administrators, senior faculty members must educate them about the campus culture and mission."
March 19, 2018 at 3:02pm No comments on this: "Increasing the football roster by 20 students and the wrestling roster by 12 was the first suggestion." Give me a break! Maybe we can double spending on travel for football players who don't play and eliminate travel for faculty. Or just eliminate faculty and turn ASU into a sports camp.
March 19, 2018 at 11:08am How kind of ASU admin to allow folks to wear jeans and ASU colors all week. I mean in light of pending job eliminations. Makes the sting far less painful.
March 19, 2018 at 6:49am $2.2 million in personnel cuts is where they'll make up most of their money. They have the list, just release it so we can move on.
March 17, 2018 at 6:58pm Is there any external monitoring of ASU's layoff process, other than the Board of Trustees, which I don't consider external? Someone with extensive HR experience suggested we should have at least that level of protection. Colorado WINS may be able to provide external monitoring for classified staff. Has anyone contacted them? Who could provide external monitoring for faculty?
March 15, 2018 at 12:52am I had a friend who was an art major. She submitted a project with the motto ‘don’t tread on me’. She was told by the department chair, Margaret Doell, that it was ‘inappropriate’. Things that make you go hmmmm...
March 15, 2018 at 12:22am The United States Flag: Federal Law Relating to Display and Associated Questions
March 14, 2018 at 6:59pm Flag art: Free speech. Period.
March 14, 2018 at 6:26pm I thought people might appreciate this picture from earlier today. Notice the side of the van says "Albuquerque."
March 14, 2018 at 6:15pm ----Editor's Note: We have been receiving comments and inquiries about this image including an inverted American Flag, believed to be student work, currently on display in the ASU Art Building. It has generated considerable discussion on Facebook in the past 24 hours.
March 14, 2018 at 12:42pm Adams State University is a joke with a bad reputation state wide!
March 14, 2018 at 9:46am Next time, next place, next targeted people, she needs more potent lemons and/or larger mirrors. Or, a different way to control spiritual forces to protect her from herself.
March 14, 2018 at 7:47am YES! The moving van WAS on campus today. Even voodoo mirrors and lemons couldn't save Bev from herself.
March 13, 2018 at 5:25pm And the moving van was on campus today. I wonder what the final settlement was...add that to our deficit!
March 11, 2018 at 8:05pm If they are not focused on admissions then they are not focused on the future of the school. Read between the lines.
March 8, 2018 at 5:27pm They forced the valley admissions counselor to resign. No Texas travel is planned. Northern NM FINALLY got some attention this week. The Springs recruiter is still trying to cover Denver. I'll say it again: the transfer coordinator seems to be the only recruiter actually working in the local office. Combining the Graduate & Undergraduate Admissions department has done nothing but increase the tension in an already dysfunctional office. Karla is clueless. Ken is spineless. None of that matters. What matters? FALL 2018 ENROLLMENT. First time student applications are down nearly 7% over 2017. How many jobs will have to be cut before someone, ANYONE, takes serious control over the admissions department? Who will stop the bleeding? The 2018 projection is 5% down when compared to 2017. Dr. Nehring indicated that equates to 680k. Will they wait until the percentage reaches the equivalent of 1 million dollars lost to take action? Someone really needs to light a fire. Maybe its just to late.
March 8, 2018 at 11:22am Does anybody know when we find out if we're still employed? I'm certain there's a list of people that are on the chopping block, and it's obvious that a few have been given a heads up already. So when do those of us who aren't favored get our warning? Do we have to wait until the board rubber stamps their approval, even though it's more or less set in stone? Nobody's talking about the special president’s cabinet meeting yesterday either. I bet that went great.
March 7, 2018 at 7:37pm I’ve scoured the quintile rankings multiple times, searching for clues to the fate of friends and colleagues. I’ve concluded that, other than some rather obvious fluffing up of house favorites, the rankings are largely meaningless and can be used to justify just about any decision.
March 7, 2018 at 7:05pm March 5, 2018 at 8:16pm cut-and-pasted from the Faculty Handbook. As I pointed out to Senate, our Handbook provides tenured faculty the weakest protections of any public institution in Colorado, especially with regard to dismissal for cause. The procedures clearly fall short of AAUP/AACU guidelines and I believe HLC criteria. They also include antiquated language like "moral turpitude." Senate formed a committee to recommend changes, but that initiative died as far as I can tell. Oh well, just jobs. Protection for dismissal due to financial woes is similarly weak. Compare us to other universities in Colorado, or better yet, other states. Oh well, just jobs. Not worth making changes to the Handbook. I believe part of the indifference was based on the argument that these things rarely ever happen at ASU. Anyone care to close the barn door after all the horses have been escorted out the door? Nevertheless, I appreciate Matt's process, transparency, and efforts to garner buy-in from the campus. These are a big step in the right direction. Maybe once the current emergency is behind us, we can re-visit the Faculty Handbook policies around dismissal. - Jeff Elison
March 6, 2018 at 7:08pm What hidden magical thinking went into these quintile rankings? The descriptions aren't even internally consistent. From the Introduction: "Also, appearing in the fifth-quintile does not automatically mean that program is in jeopardy as it may be very important to the University, but be weak due to lack of resources historically allocated to the program." From the 5th Quintile: "Inconsistent Outcomes; underperforming despite adequate resources; underperforming due to a lack of resources; potential for growth is limited." So how do we really know if the issues with an underperforming program are due to inadequate resources or not? Some areas on campus have never been adequately funded so it's impossible to know what performance would be if they were adequately funded. And what is "adequate" funding? Furthermore, is there any consideration given to what is "excessive" funding? Some areas of campus are obviously funded far more heavily than necessary and the amount of money doled out each year just to burn through their budget is blatant waste. I'm thinking about all the feel-good, extravagant luncheons and retreats with grant money that has to be spent. Meanwhile, basic department and program budgets are slashed to the point of inevitable malfunction. And blowing $25K for 72 people to travel to one football game over 600 miles away? That kind of financial brilliance lands Football in the 1st Quintile? It's not like they've had a good season in over a decade.
March 6, 2018 at 5:25pm Glancing over the Quintile Rankings, it looks like the lowest performers (with cuts very likely) are: English & Communications, HAPPSS, Spanish, Cultural Resource Mgmt, Masters Public Admin, Nielsen Library, Golf, Wrestling, Swimming, Facilities Services, Lobbying, Adventure Sports, First Year Immersion, STEM Center, and Student Union Building.
March 6, 2018 at 4:01pm From Adams State announces finalists for president's post: "Trustee Paul Farley, Chair of the Search Committee, said, "The entire university community owes a great debt to these dedicated individuals who have invested countless hours in pursuit of a single goal: securing the continued growth and vitality of Adams State for the next generation." The committee was assisted by search consultants retained by the Board of Trustees. Hope Johnson and Camila Alire of Pyramind, LLC, a Virginia-based firm with a connection to the San Luis Valley, assisted the committee in creating in the position announcement and took the lead in identifying promising candidates." ... So we can add Trustee Farley, Pyramind's Hope Johnson and Camila Alire to the list of people who brought ASU the many calamities of Beverlee McClure. And what's this about "a Virginia-based firm with a connection to the San Luis Valley" - some thinly-veiled nepotism to compensate for a poor search process?
March 6, 2018 at 11:56am ---- Editor's Note: We received the following message and want to share it with our readers for further review. We can confirm this did not come from Margaret Madden, one of the four finalists who withdrew her application: I was a prospective candidate in the presidential search that resulted in the hiring of Beverlee McClure. I withdrew from consideration when I was offered another presidency, which was primarily a matter of timing, as Alamosa would have been an excellent location for us as our family primarily resides nearby and we're now on the east coast. One issue that you don't seem to have touched on is that the search firm involved in the hiring was NOT an established higher-ed firm, but rather a general-purpose executive search consultant. I was not impressed with them, and they clearly did not have the Rolodex that a firm familiar with higher education would have. Of course I have no idea how your search played out internally, but the campus finalists were not that impressive on paper. Anyway, just another 2 cents from the outside.
March 6, 2018 at 6:15am As mentioned below, Arnold Salazar should be held accountable for destroying lives of honest, hardworking, and dedicated employees. Salazar cannot just hide and run away from the mess he created.
March 5, 2018 at 9:46pm March 5 @8:16 - 6 months! Oops!
March 5, 2018 at 9:40pm As ASU faculty and staff inevitably find themselves unemployed through not fault of their own, perhaps the eminently charitable Arnold Salazar can put them up in his fancy barn without charging them extra for meals? After all, he presided over this entire mess while lining his own pockets...
March 5, 2018 at 8:26pm Wow! At least 1 employee in Richardson is waiting for their contract to be terminated. They didn't even take keys away, deny banner access, or place on administrative leave! That's got to be a storm waiting to happen. How did HR rank 3rd?
March 5, 2018 at 8:16pm If you are a tenured faculty member, you can only be terminated for cause or if: "a. There is a justifiable change in program. b. A significant decline in state appropriations or other revenue creates a need for the institution to reduce expenses." I think b. falls under "the Board and past administration screwed up." "Unless the program or budgetary needs require otherwise, tenure status and years of service at the University shall be given more weight in this analysis but are not conclusive factors." "e. Notice Period i. When a Faculty member’s employment is to be terminated because of program reduction or elimination, and is not based on the reasons set forth in Section IX.A.2.b [I'm pretty sure the Board is taking current actions under IX.A.2.b] of this Handbook, the Faculty member shall be given notice as follows: (a) A Faculty member who has tenure shall be given one hundred and eighty (180) days notice. (b) A Faculty member who does not have tenure shall be given sixty (60) days notice. ii. When a Faculty member’s employment is to be terminated, in whole or in part, for any of the reasons set forth in Section IX.A.2.b of this Handbook, the University shall make reasonable efforts to give the same notice as set forth in Section IX.A.3.e.i above. The University is not required to give such notice if, in the discretion of the President, a shorter period is necessary to maintain the University’s educational programs and financial stability." In other words, under the current crisis, the Faculty Handbook allows administration and the Board to do just about anything they want and doesn't require much in the way of notice. Nevertheless, the Handbook recommends 6 months for tenured faculty and 2 months for non-tenured. The current crisis was created by the past administration and Board: overspending leading to the high cost of ASU (tuition & fees), probation over Extended Studies, both of which led to declining enrollment. They messed up, we pay the price. Oh so simple.
March 5, 2018 at 6:28pm I know Matt Nehring has a difficult job ahead of him, but I have confidence that he can do the right thing. He understands ASU, he loves ASU, and he has the perspective we need to pull together and succeed. If anyone can do it, Dr. Nehring can!
March 5, 2018 at 2:48pm If you are an exempt employee, you can be terminated for any or no reason whatsoever. Got to love 'right to work'. ---- Editor's Response: Readers are encouraged to learn more about the Employment-At-Will doctrine in Colorado.
March 5, 2018 at 1:20pm Can a person really be terminated without cause?
March 4, 2018 at 8:38pm Danny, an Albuquerque IP address, huh?!? I just WONDER who that might be... Excellent response to a positively ignorant individual. Tsk, tsk.
March 4, 2018 at 8:07pm ---- Editor's Note: In the past few weeks, I've received a number of laughable, juvenile hate mail messages which are par for the course with any public figure, especially one willing to engage in controversial or critical issues that challenge existing assumptions or power structures. I have reported the legally actionable ones that threaten actual violence. In addition, one user with an Albuquerque IP address has demonstrated an ongoing commitment to repeatedly making objectively false claims that form the basis of unfounded assertions and betray a sustained personal animus which is neither relevant nor worthy of response. But rather than simply deleting these messages as spam as I often do, I wanted to share a few of the more obvious errors made in these messages with readers here. These statements and my responses are as follows: “I just looked at Ledonne's Twitter and realized why he needs this blog... only 260 followers and close to zero like or retweet activity.” You got me. Yes, I am hardly ever on Twitter and usually just copy/paste content I already posted on Facebook. I have used Twitter for organizations for which I perform social media work. Personally, I have a much stronger presence on Facebook, YouTube, Vimeo, and LinkedIn because I have found those platforms to be more useful. I don't have much regard for Twitter and find the discourse there to be among the least productive among major social media platforms. I do follow some people and news organizations there, which I find marginally useful. However, I generally maintain a Twitter account in the interest of being able to respond to press inquiries (this has happened on many occasions with journalists from Chronicle of Higher Education, College Fix, and other publications). I sometimes also use Twitter to promote some of the publications and announcements for my business activity (such as the annual photography calendar I shoot, edit, and distribute). I like having many ways for people to reach out and connect with me. Including anonymous Internet critics, apparently. But Watching Adams really doesn't fulfill any of the many reasons I have used social media since 2005 when I first signed up for sites like MySpace and later Facebook. This site is a topic-specific, open access platform for anyone to discuss Adams State University – which has undergone significant change in the past decade and likely has much more change coming. I see value in maintaining a space for open comments, documents, podcasts, news and commentary. And given that February 2018 broke records for traffic with over 30,000 views, other people continue to see value in the site, as well. “Also, Ledonne's Wikipedia page has been flagged because several people (correctly) assume that Ledonne wrote it himself as a self-promotional tool.” No, that's not true. If you look at the page's edit history, you can see that the Wikipedia page for Danny Ledonne has been continuously updated (and vandalized) over the years by a variety of editors with their own accounts, complete with citations that verify the information included. I've written about some of the more humorous examples of vandalism in an entry on my personal blog. “I also have to wonder...what's your endgame here, Danny? So you get Beverlee removed as president - okay. Now what?” In point of fact, the Board of Trustees removed Beverlee McClure from the role of ASU President for reasons that have only been vaguely described. Watching Adams has reported as much factual data as is available about McClure's performance in office, but it was up to the Trustees to make the decision for McClure to be placed on a leave of absence. Regarding this notion of an “end game,” someone named “Scott Black” posed this exact question on a recent Inside Higher Ed article. I answered it there, so I'll share that answer here: Transparency and accountability for public institutions isn't an "endgame." It is an ongoing objective that citizens must expect from their public officials. Just this week, we received documents that show ASU's football team has increased its travel costs from $67,901 in 2016 to $100,352.01 in 2017. That represents a 47.8% increase during a time of budget cuts and financial shortfalls and the public has a right to know how their money is being spent. Would anyone have found out about this if we didn't continuously monitor and publish it? That's highly unlikely. The same can be said for any number of reports and files - such as Dr. Gilmer's mediation agreement in which he agreed not to disclose the nature of his complaint against ex-president McClure lest he be subject to her threats of litigation. That's a serious form of institutional intimidation and the public has a right to know that Dr. McClure conducts herself by attempting to silence her critics. But it didn't work with me and thus the truth came out and the ACLU's lawsuit on my behalf prevailed in lifting an unlawful order banning me from a public university campus without due process. Benefits? We've seen many positive effects from Watching Adams in the past few years - not the least of which being an improvement in the university's more timely publication of institutional reports (because they'll end up on Watching Adams anyway). Prior to this, nobody even knew what the salaries of employees were - despite this being public data. No one was comfortable requesting it given the culture of retaliation in an at-will employee state. Now, the salary data is accessed on Watching Adams on a daily basis as people review and compare compensation of state employees. Here's a thought: maybe the people who harangue and complain about state-run institutions being subjects to citizen watchdogs should find a new hobby? In this day and age, we don't need more apologists for obstruction of transparent and accountable government. “You have to know they're never going to give you the president's job, even if you want it. You're not qualified. I doubt you'll be able to get any kind of job at Adams again besides adjunct instructor.” This is among the most amusing rumors I've seen online in a great while, so I must thank you for the entertainment! I have never applied for, nor do I have interest in, being a college or university president. I greatly prefer teaching and creating media for a living and enjoy continued opportunities to do so. This ongoing effort to impugn the motives for a group of people forming Watching Adams is a convenient way to avoid the many problems that this site has exposed and explored over the past few years. But it doesn't work. Adams State is going through a great deal of transition now and has experienced an ongoing decline in enrollment, including the Mass Communication program in which I taught between 2011-2015. I don't anticipate that there will be many opportunities for expanding tenure track faculty positions in this or related departments anytime soon. I do hope the university is able to pull together and succeed under Dr. Matt Nehring's leadership and wish him well in doing so. “I realize it's probably tough to realize this when - as a grown adult - you still live in the same place where you grew up” I've had the opportunity to travel many places – living in Boston and DC, traveling through almost all 50 states and visiting about 10 countries. This statement conveys to me that whoever wrote this isn't effectively researching their claims. I have publicly listed my residence as Eugene, Oregon for the past year and half, where I currently live and work since moving here in October 2016. I really enjoy the Pacific Northwest and regret not exploring such a beautiful area of the country sooner! “Are you going to try to become mayor of Alamosa? Is that as far as your ambition goes? What's the endgame for you, here?” Given my above statement about where I'm living, I think we can agree that the notion that I want to be mayor of Alamosa makes almost no sense. I enjoyed performing video services that included Mayor Rogers and Mayor Lucero, both of whom I hold in high regard for their public service. Further, I consider Mayor Coleman to be an excellent leader and believe Alamosa is in great hands under his leadership. I don't have interest in running for public office at this time but have and continue to offer media production and consultation services to public institutions and programs as needed. Indeed, it is work that I enjoy. Also, people who wish to contact me personally are encouraged to use my website's contact page to do so. If you actually want a reply, please leave some form of contact information so I can respond. I cannot promise that I will continue to publish anonymous personal inquiries directed through Watching Adams on this comments page because it is almost entirely off-topic and likely of only marginal interest to people who come here for news about Adams State University. And for the love of all that is righteous, please at least try to get your facts straight when making claims about someone you quite evidently know little about. Now, back to watching Adams State. - Danny Ledonne
March 3, 2018 at 5:47am Someone needs to ask: how much is in the Counselor Ed reserves and how can they keep that much when the university is struggling! $250,000 appears generous, but is just a drop in the bucket for what they are making!
March 2, 2018 at 10:01pm Counselor Education contributed $250,000 to the general fund this year.
March 2, 2018 at 8:33am Crowther is leaving in August. ASU is taking a major turn for the better. He won't be missed.
March 2, 2018 at 7:25am In reply to March 1, 2018 at 7:57pm - Counselor Ed kicked in a very large sum to help with the $800,000 shortfall this year. Matt did provide that number at one of his talks. I wish I could remember the figure, but I'm sure it was over $100K.
March 1, 2018 at 7:57pm ----Editor's Note: We received the following message and want to share it with our readers for further review: How does the cash cow of those counseling programs play into, or take out of, the cash-strapped institution? Aren’t they just growing and growing while the vine they sit on shrivels? Surely they must be contributing a fair amount back to the university... I didn’t hear anything about that mentioned in the meeting or is that something that no one wants to dig into because it’s not broken? They seem to know what they are doing.
March 1, 2018 at 5:09pm I'd love to see the email chain surrounding the series of petty retaliations that made me decide to give up on ASU. I wonder: do they think about fair play to the students they claim to serve? ----Editor's Reply: You may be able to request any email communications from Adams email accounts responsive to your query by filing an open records request with Tracy Rogers, Director of Human Resources.
March 1, 2018 at 2:05pm Considering Prom Queen Beverlee tried to call someone a terrorist, an obviously untrue allegation, a crime you can get the death penalty for, I don't feel the least bit sorry for her. - Alison
March 1, 2018 at 1:02pm There's a lot of talk here about who at ASU to remove - to “clean house” of all the cruel, incompetent, vindictive people willing to sell out their ethics, betray their colleagues, and step on anyone to push them down, get ahead, or make a few bucks. You know who they are: Margaret Doell, Leslie Alvarez, Frank Novotny, Ed Crowther, Ana Guevara etc. And I understand the suggestion. But I have a better idea. They can stay. But they'll be demoted to part-time adjuncts. They will be allowed to teach one or two courses per semester. They won't get an office. They won't have any of the benefits that come with full time employment, like health insurance or retirement contributions. They will get paid what all other ASU adjuncts make – well below the poverty line. They will have to wait for their contracts to be processed each semester, causing them to be delayed by the snail brigade in HR, then told they can take out a loan to float their monthly expenses while their paychecks are finally cut. They won't be allowed to serve on any committees to have a say in making things better. They will be overlooked and disregarded at department meetings, if they are even allowed to attend. This will save ASU money, of course. But it will also teach a lesson in humility and equity to the people who got ASU into this mess and supported the worst elements of the Beverlee McClure administration.
March 1, 2018 at 11:03am LMAO, I got sucker punched by an online program. SRSLY I should have known. When all their instructors are their own grad students. Goodbye 40 k! ASU only cares about the money! Don't use the discussion boards to discuss anything. Some might get upset. Even the assigned topics. It's a mean girl retaliatory culture. For sure, be safe and go somewhere else. Adams State University is bad news. - Alison
March 1, 2018 at 8:07am Feb 28th @ 5:25 - The decision was made this week not to hire an admissions director for at least 1 year, it will save money. Enrollment has done so well under Karla why would admissions need a director? First time student applications are down more than 7%. Budgeting for only a 5% drop in enrollment is not a good idea. Not having a director in admissions for a year is a terrible idea.
February 28, 2018 at 8:15pm In response to February 27, 2018 at 12:15pm - "I hope many people attend tomorrow's open meeting to ask some hard questions and get some honest answers!" I'd guess there were 40-50 people there tonight. I should have counted. About half of them were from ASU. Matt did a great job of explaining the current financial situation. There were some good questions. More importantly, the community members expressed their willingness to help: directly, through fund-raising, via politicians, and with suggestions. It was nice to see community members' pride in ASU and concern for ASU. Cleave Simpson also did a good job with questions and it was nice to see him at yet another open meeting, probably his fourth in a week (2 faculty & staff; AS&F, tonight). I haven't seen this level of communication and transparency in my 7 years at ASU. So glad to see it now. - Jeff Elison
February 28, 2018 at 5:35pm February 28 @ 12:02 - Such as?
February 28, 2018 at 12:02pm People are already being fired without notice. Departments are being completely restructured. So much for handling all of this so called right sizing appropriately. HR should have been ranked 5th.
February 27, 2018 at 12:15pm I hope many people attend tomorrow's open meeting to ask some hard questions and get some honest answers!
February 26, 2018 at 9:07pm "McClure was the first woman president and surely anything that didn’t go her way was due to owning a uterus. It was a massive conspiracy involving Watching Adams, a few disgruntled faculty and staff, countless outside agitators, the local and national media, and the evil spirits she had to ward off with mirrors in her windows and frozen lemons with the names of her enemies in her freezer. (Seriously, that happened.)" - The Aftermath of Superstorm Beverlee ----Editor's Note: Yes, according to multiple trusted sources, that happened. We've known for a year now but it seemed appropriate to discuss this practice in retrospect. Yours truly was certainly among the named lemons...
February 26, 2018 at 8:48pm More football, less education for students and professors! Let's Par-tay! It's gonna be epic, dude! Like, everyone is gonna want to come to ASU!
February 26, 2018 at 7:35pm Arnold Salazar is the main culprit here. I wonder how the governor of Colorado appoints the trustees of this university and who advises him with the names of the trustees?
February 26, 2018 at 6:02pm Looks like Bev was caught lying again today - this time about the AAUP. Seems like people have finally had enough of her Pinocchio stories.
February 26, 2018 at 3:56pm 2/26 @ 12:18 pm - How many investigations is Rodney going to pass? How many are Kurt and Ana going to deny that have been conducted concerning him? There was a post some time back that said he’d be the next Director of Facilities and if that day comes, how many more people is he going to hire to do his job while he officiates games on the clock or visits Shannon at HR while getting paid to do so?
February 26, 2018 at 12:18pm Don't forget Rodney Martinez.
February 26, 2018 at 9:35am Take things to NLRB, that’s the only place left. Can’t go to Ana, HR, etc. The chain of command is a cabal in itself. There is talk that Kurt is leaving soon as well so what happens when he leaves? One thing for sure is Facilities will get worse so all of those in Facilities need to get out ASAP.
February 26, 2018 at 3:29am Dear WA: Excellent, excellent Commentary about Superstorm Beverlee! I can think of no better analogy! It certainly is enlightening to reflect on Dave Svaldi's own role in this entire mess. How the BoT allowed him to completely mismanage the institution for 10 years is unbelievable at best, criminal at worst. Then to add fuel to the fire by hiring an individual with known problems. Did the Board only check her given references? I cannot imagine that a little additional vetting wouldn't have shed light on her deficiencies. Alas, I regress. That's why we pay big bucks to hiring firms (irony intended). One colleague noted that "learning to trust one another again" would be necessary to moving forward. HOW does that happen? How does one ever trust the remaining Svaldi and McClure sycophants and supporters? Margaret Doell Tracy Rogers Ken Marquez Karla Hardesty Leslie Alvarez Kurt Cary Ana Guevara And I'm sure there are dozens of others who have just never bothered to fully crawl out of their holes. The rest of us are so badly beaten down, trust will be difficult to establish--ever again. How will this instituon ever recover?
February 25, 2018 at 3:43pm Re: February 25 @1:04 - Interesting that Margo has such a long history of undermining people in Napoleonic march. Let's not forget Mumper, Novotny, and Gilmer. Nehring and Sanders would be best advised to proceed with caution. Doell is pure evil.
February 25, 2018 at 1:04pm Margo got her start in the ASC art dept after buddying up to a long gone chair of the dept. As a self appointed 'academic citizen' in plying her favoritism to those students she liked and ignoring those she didn't, she orchestrated the ouster of another chair to begin her stairway to the supposed heights of ASC. Disingenuous at best and ultimately a self serving crony, perhaps her Napoleonic march may come to an end sooner than she would like.
February 25, 2018 at 11:57am So. Much. Coverage. Will people continue to blame Danny for ASU and McClure shortfalls? How can you? One thing is for sure: McClure won't be able to scrub all of this from the Internet.
February 24, 2018 at 10:57pm Re-reading the commentary that was supposed to be a Valley Courier op-ed (in Ledonne's reply to 6:26 pm) was enlightening. I forgot the point that according to the FBI and Secret Service, McClure's actions would have actually increased the risks to students - had Ledonne been a real threat. Point being, she was either so stupid or so self-centered, that she did the wrong thing in terms of students' safety. She did what was in her best interest. Who's the terrorist? Funny how quickly history is forgotten. I'm glad I signed.
February 24, 2018 at 8:54pm ***clapping really frantically*** at comment 5:52. Agreed on all points!!! You can throw Beez in there too...oh, but she left.
February 24, 2018 at 6:41pm All this time Beverlee McClure has claimed that Danny Ledonne was a terrorist, but the real terrorists are within the higher administration.
February 24, 2018 at 6:26pm McClure tried to misrepresent the timeline regarding the "recommendation" from Nicoletti-Flater Associates. They were contacted after the ban, as you point out. I wonder if she's also lying about banning you "based on legal advice" or in other instances she is more specific "based on advice from the state’s attorney general." I'm guessing that's not true. Did any evidence come out during discovery to support her claims? ----Editor's Reply: It's been a couple years since I reviewed our document file in detail, but here's what I can recall. The idea of banning me from campus was floated in early September 2015, at least as it appears in Beverlee McClure's ASU email chain. McClure tells Ana Guevara not to meet with me regarding my OEO complaint and that she will be banning me from campus soon. McClure discussed this with Jessica Salazar, then ASU's legal counsel from the CO Attorney General's office. It was clear that they were trying to find a way to get rid of me and did not want to directly address the issues I was raising. McClure has reportedly blamed Jessica Salazar for giving her bad advice and I understand they did not have a positive working relationship (to put it charitably). Civil liberties issues aside, I have no idea why ASU administration thought this would work or what they anticipated happening after I was banned. As one commentary argued, banning someone from campus but not following up with mental health evaluations or a court-obtained search warrant to assess an individual's capacity to do harm only increases the overall threat to campus safety. This is what the FBI, U.S. Secret Service, and the U.S. Department of Education have all concluded. So McClure and company weren't serious about protecting the campus and didn't take the steps to do so - evidently because they didn't really believe the hysteria they were promoting publicly. But sadly, this same scenario is almost exactly that of the Parkland shooting, where so many signs weren't followed up and a real threat did escalate.
February 24, 2018 at 5:52pm Surprised to see that people like Leslie, Margaret, and Ana supported her. It does tell me much about their character. How can they remain on campus now after showing such flawed professional and personal judgement? Also, of course, Tracy Rogers has to go. Ken and Aaron, I suspect, also propped her up but that was basically because they do not have a spine and are not able to stand up. Matt needs to clean house if he is going to get anywhere with this mess.
February 24, 2018 at 5:11pm Let's clear up a few things about McClure's “thick file” on me. Thanks to the discovery phase of our lawsuit, I've seen the file in its entirety. So have the CO AG attorneys: Jessica Salazar, Kathleen Spalding, and Patrick Sayas. So have the ACLU attorneys: Reid Neureiter, Kayla Scroggins, Sara Neel, and Mark Silverstein. So did Judge Downes, serving as mediator for the legal settlement. The file contains several hundred pages of documents – many of which are duplicates of chain emails, multiple copies of various application materials I submitted (CV, cover letter), internal discussions about exactly how to create a persona non grata policy, a public records search that found no criminal history and included my driver's license photo (McClure likely misinterpreted this as a “police watch list," according to Spalding and Sayas after our court hearing), and a threat assessment report by Nicoletti-Flater Associates that concluded I was not a physical threat to anyone but had the capacity to annoy people. Annoy people? Guilty as charged. McClure did coerce a statement from one female student. I have since followed up with her. She didn't know her message would be read aloud by McClure and understandably wants nothing to do with any of this. Using a student in this way was a cynical manipulation - after which McClure confidently emailed Kurt Cary to say: “That moment when you realize you are fighting the good fight.” So there's a reason the CO AG's office was eager to fork over the maximum their insurance policy could offer to settle the case as soon as we went to mediation: the "thick file" contains nothing legally actionable. There were no police reports. No prosecutorial action was taken by the university to lawfully file a protective order, restraining order, or other deprivation measures. In point of fact, ASU entered zero exhibits into evidence during our court hearing. Tellingly, the threat assessment was done weeks after I was already banned from campus. McClure just wanted to disappear me and cooked up a shoddy way to do so post hoc. She was desperate for evidence to justify what she had already done... but that ship had sailed, the train had left the station, or pick your favorite euphemism here. In summary: the “thick file” was a “nothingburger.” McClure paraded around with it, carrying the confidence that her status as president would be sufficient authority to be believed without evidence. McClure became the queen of fake news. A pathological liar has to constantly reinforce their fabricated reality with new lies and it's evident that McClure continues to do this. It aids and abets her voracious ego and helps to reinforce her role as perpetual victim. As the saying goes, McClure was able to fool some of the people some of the time but certainly not all of the people all of the time. The truth is starting to catch up with her and no binder can conceal it. - Danny Ledonne, living the good life in Oregon
February 24, 2018 at 4:17pm I hope that with all of the changes in leadership, that they are replaced with people that understand the Adams State's mission. Which is to serve the underserved. Some where down the line this got lost for a number of reasons. It's time to put in the work, and get our hands dirty for the sake of the students. I know and believe that this institution is capable. Students and staff need to feel like the are in safe space. One where the are heard and encouraged to grow within the institution. - Meagan Smith
February 24, 2018 at 1:21pm Beverlee McClure just can't stop lying. "McClure said she had invited the AAUP to campus to help address some faculty concerns and perhaps diversify the staff, with an eye toward adding more women." This is a blatant lie. All the positive things she says in her own defense are either lies, claiming other people's successes (Hispanic enrollment; thank you Title V office), or trivial (restructuring the debt isn't rocket science and was probably facilitated by board members). Similarly, blaming Ledonne for the Halloween costume as reason for being fired narrative is either a lie or ignorance. Ledonne has told reporters (and it has been reported) that he doesn't believe that's the case. Go with the simple explanation for why she was fired: numerous failures and creating a campus climate of retaliation and fear. She definitely exhibits a long-standing pattern of concerning behaviors.
February 24, 2018 at 1:02pm Who really cares about the costume she chose to wear? What about the higher wages for all of her cronies? BTW, where do I sign up for the Erica Romero fan club? Civic service is great but she should do it on her on time. She’s never in her office.
February 24, 2018 at 12:06pm The only one circulating "fake news" is you, Beverlee. You spent the majority of your time at ASU fabricating lies about the university's state of affairs, your success (or lack thereof), and above all, about anyone who dared try and contribute to improving the university with ideas that you didn't come up with first or that you didn't felt were favorable to your public image to discuss. The biggest fake story you created while at ASU was the one in which you depicted Danny Ledonne as a terrorist. The Chief of police, while still working at ASU, admitted that Danny was never really seen as a threat to anyone. Yet you had him banned from campus, and later you willingly sacrificed the police chief’s career to cover up your tracks. And why? Because the only person you ever think about is you. People close enough to Richardson Hall to know what was really going on all know that you were still fishing for students to use as “examples of Danny’s threat” just hours prior to the infamous act you gave in Faculty Senate back in 2015. You’d already banned Danny from campus but that morning, hours prior to addressing campus, you still didn’t have ANY evidence that he was a threat. So, what did you do? You BULLIED one female student who suffers from depression and anxiety into participating in your scheme. Can you image how that poor student felt? What was she suppose to do? Tell you no? Talk about abuse of power! The student really had now idea what she was being signed up for nor did she really have an option to not participate. Anyone who has bothered to talk to her knows that. But you didn’t care! You simply needed someone on record in an e-mail, that you personally solicited, saying they might have felt threatened by Danny. With this fabricated evidence, you walked into a room with a “folder of evidence.” You actually brought a large folder to the meeting and dropped it on the desk! In retrospect, I have to give you credit, you can put on one hell of a show! You stormed into that room that day, a room in which you’d encouraged your soon-to-be-lover to create a “Standing Strong for McClure” movement, and delivered a teary-eyed speech about how being the first woman president was at the root of this problem. Danny Ledonne, you said, was sexist, and a terrorist, and if anyone supported him, or the right to due process for that matter, they too were sexist. You used two male professors as examples that day. Could the audience believe that these men would have the gall to try and influence you? You conveniently forgot to mention that you asked Kurt Cary to reach out to these two men on your behalf as a means of trying to negotiate a solution with Mr. Ledonne. In any case, the message was clear: Beverlee McClure was not to be questioned. I’ll admit, you owned that room but to be honest, it’s probably the last room you’ll ever command as much attention in. Sooner or later, if not already, people are going to realize that you are the fake news, Beverlee. There is nothing genuine about you, which is why no one will dare hire you at this point. You’ve never actually worked in the business sector, you’ve never contributed to higher education in any meaningful way, and you certainly didn’t improve ASU in any measurable way. I don’t doubt that you’ll spin a story of sexism and cyber-stalking in your favor somehow. You’ll likely write a book with someone else’s help, start a tour, and do a TED talk that will get a few likes from folks who buy into your pitiful story but in the end, anyone that has ever worked closely with you will know the truth. They will know that you alone create this unfortunately tragic novel and that the hole you currently find yourself in was of your own creation. Good luck getting out. In the meantime, here’s a bedtime story you might want to pick up. There’s a moral to the story that I think will serve you well as you tread through these difficult times: Bedtime stories - The Stories of Pinocchio As you'll note, Pinocchio's salvation came through admitting the truth. I honestly, believe, despite all that you have done, if you would simply admit your own short comings and addictions, you too would be forgiven. Do you have it in you to tell the truth, Beverlee?
February 24, 2018 at 8:18am She just doesn't get it... still.
February 23, 2018 at 8:40pm I'm still healing from the damage inflicted by McClure. Nevertheless, I'd be happy to buy her a big box of band-aids if that makes her less insane. Maybe she should use the extra large size to cover her mouth. It might prevent more self-inflicted wounds.
February 23, 2018 at 5:51pm From the Albuquerque Journal: "McClure said she was planning to return to New Mexico, where she would “probably take some time to heal.” She has not determined her next career move but is reluctant to return to public service." Yes, we just hope that public service is reluctant to bring you back! Many other people are now healing from what you've done to them, and without the cushy padding of the $500,000+ wasted on your salary since 2015.
February 23, 2018 at 7:40am Feb 22 @ 8:56pm - Hey Bev, is that you?
February 23, 2018 at 7:28am Thanks to Cleave Simpson for attending yesterday's all-campus meetings. We have to acknowledge that the members of the Board of Trustees have changed substantially since McClure was hired, even more so since Svaldi-Mansheim-Novotny ran up our national debt to unpayable levels. It looks like the current trustees are taking their jobs more seriously. Thanks to them, as well. Removing Dr. McClure from the president's office is a clear step toward a brighter future. There are so many happier faces on campus.
February 23, 2018 at 4:48am Awesome article. Thanks for sharing useful information. It's good of you to stay open for your readers. - James Randel
February 22, 2018 at 11:09pm What is remotely crazy or irrational about responding to being called a cyberstalker? The entire piece is sourced and filled with specific examples of McClure's vindictive lies - some of which extend way back before ASU. She's an embarrassment and we're glad to be rid of her.
February 22, 2018 at 9:48pm 8:56: you must be one of those that gets things done (or rather, not) with thoughts and prayers. Keep praying. Danny will continue to make positive change through research and action. You are in the minority, my friend.
February 22, 2018 at 9:47pm February 22 @ 8:56 - Wow! What a horrible, mean human being you are. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! You went off on your own crazy rails to rant about a decent man - one with whom you've likely never had a 5 minute conversation. I read Danny's "rant". It was not a rant at all, rather a calm, matter of fact account of how another horrible human being (McClure) treated him. I would say by all accounts, Danny has been far more gracious toward McClure and her ilk than most individuals should be. Further, you seem to make a number of assumptions about him and his life that I can affirm are erroneous. I have spent afternoons with Danny, talking politics, films, and host of interesting topics over tea. And yes he makes a great rooibos. He has spent evenings at my home over dinner with my family. Now that he lives in Eugene, we text regularly and I know when I need help with something, I can count on him to take my call. So for you to get on here and claim a bunch of bullshit that you obviously know nothing about says far more about you and your worthless life. In all honesty, your rant sounds eerily familiar - like those I've heard in the various halls on campus by the mean girl club--Alvarez, Guevara, Doell, to name a few. You should "pray" for yourself. Shame on you!
February 22, 2018 at 9:31pm Fit the profile of a school shooter? The FBI, CIA, and Dept of Ed concluded there is no profile. Nice try. It's comforting to believe someone you don't like is miserable. Hope you are comfortable in your own little fantasy bubble.
February 22, 2018 at 8:56pm There you go, Danny! Double down on your own crazy, irrational behavior by publishing a rant about Beverlee McClure. Do you think that maybe if you had a life of your own - a life where you weren't a miserable failure - you might not care so much about what this other person has or hasn't done? Was it the 100th time you got turned down by a girl at a bar or the 1000th that sent you off the rails? How much does it suck to be you, living your life every day? How disappointed do you feel every time you look in the mirror? Why do you see it as farfetched that people see you as a potential school shooter? You gotta admit, you definitely fit the profile. I get sad just thinking about you. I am sure many, many other people feel the same way. Sorry about your terrible, pathetic life. I'll pray for you. ----Editor's Reply: When it's not possible to defend the indefensible, when there is no evidence to support your claims, and when you have no coherent arguments of a substantive nature, the currency of irrelevant ad hominem becomes mightily palatable. So let me share with you just a bit about my life and who I really am. You may not read this, you may not care, but I want you to know what it feels like to be Danny Ledonne. This morning, I watched the snow gently melt and fall from the pine trees out my window while listening to Schubert and Pachelbel. I like to prepare a vanilla rooibos tea with extra cream and sip it slowly. Last night, I taught my Screenwriting Seminar class – the topic was plot points and three act structure. We did scene read-throughs and the students were great! Two nights ago, I caught “Black Panther” for $5 movie nights – a unique contribution to the MCU but “Guardians of the Galaxy” remains my personal favorite. Last weekend, I photographed the 2018 Oregon Asian Celebration – it was incredible and the team I am working with has been so supportive and inspiring, so welcoming and friendly! I'm looking forward to photographing the upcoming Shamrock Run in Portland next month with a good friend of mine I've known since grad school in DC. For me, I try to keep life simple. I cherish my walks and my bike rides. I rarely drive and greatly prefer to cycle for my commutes. I appreciate that rare afternoon sunshine in the swirl of clouds. There's the daily eagerness with which my birds greet me. My neighbor and I chat semi-regularly about life and the headline news. I lead a satisfying and purposeful life dedicated to principles, filled with people I cherish and who care about me in return. It's not for everyone, but it is the life for me and it suits me all the same. And I don't like meeting new people at bars. At all. I find them to be very noisy and I rarely drink alcohol.
February 22, 2018 at 2:48pm McClure says, in her defensive response in Inside Higher Ed to the board's decision to fire her, that "enrollment of minority students jumped and the graduation rate among Hispanic students -- who make up a large portion of the university's enrollment -- has climbed." This is classic McClure - stealing credit for others' hard work. Lillian Gomez and the Title V crew have for a long time been working their butts off to improve Hispanic student participation, and McClure unashamedly tries to rob them of their kudos. Pathetic.
February 22, 2018 at 11:34am Can we kill this myth dead please? Inside Higher Ed characterized McClure as "a business woman by trade," and The Denver Post said McClure was "hired for her business acumen." For a start, she has never been a businesswoman. She has never started a business. She has never successfully run a business. She has always been a salaried worker, just like the rest of us. If the definition of "businesswoman" is to be paid for services rendered to someone else's business, then all of us are businesswomen or men. If it means taking a salary while overseeing a budget, then every departmental head at ASU is a businesswoman or businessman. And, acumen? The Board of Trustees assumed that her credentials as past president and chief executive officer of the business lobby, New Mexico Association of Commerce and Industry - again just another salaried position, were proof of "business acumen." But the public record is clear. She was a failure. She raised her own salary while revenues for the Association dropped. She was also exposed as blatantly lying to the public, and was named "Worst Person in the World" by Clearly New Mexico - as reported by the Albuquerque Journal, thereby damaging the Association's credibility during her tenure. Sound familiar?
February 22, 2018 at 8:59am Cleave Simpson is quoted in Inside Higher Ed as saying that "he was disappointed in the way some media reports have mischaracterized its [the Board of Trustees' decision." "Cleave" means to cut. If you lived up to your name, you would cut the PR crap. Instead of saying that "the priorities of the current Board are no longer congruent with the priorities of the President," why don't you say what you really mean? Why can't you use open, honest, direct and unambiguous language instead of weasel words? Why can't you say that finally the Board has had enough of McClure's tantrums, lies, her failure to improve ASU's appalling financial situation and her damage to morale? For once, why can't the Board level with us, treat us like adults and tell us what is really happening? Or are you indicating that you expect the board to continue bullshitting to employees by omission, obfuscation and euphemism? Perhaps if you were straight-up and left no room for misinterpretation, you wouldn't be "disappointed in the way some media reports have mischaracterized its [the Board's] decision."
February 22, 2018 at 8:03am Feb. 21 6:37 pm - Although I disagree in part about McClure, I wholeheartedly agree there were many things going on long before she became ASU president. Lots of people here just come to earn a paycheck by coming in and sitting in their offices with the doors closed when they’re there to help students directly. Instead they make personal phone calls, order online, PM their Facebook friends, play online games, etc. and that IF they show up to work and even at that they leave for any reason under the sun. Everything is an emergency. Those are just some of the reasons for the things you listed as proof of ineptitude.
February 21, 2018 at 11:45pm ----Editor's Note: We received the following message and want to share it with our readers for further review: Have you looked into Damon Martin doing illegal things with the Cross Country runners? There are lots of comments on various blogs. Past ASU runners, competitors... all have issues and knowledge of Damon's wrongdoings.
February 21, 2018 at 10:31pm So will Beverlee McClure be this year's keynote speaker for Women's Week at ASU? Or maybe ASU should be inviting back all the women (and men) McClure has driven away?
February 21, 2018 at 9:53pm This is great! Sorry Danny I have to share! I Think I’m In Love With The Adams State University President Who Allegedly Bullied Everybody
February 21, 2018 at 6:41pm She has made a joke of the university and the trustees are responsible for it.
February 21, 2018 at 6:37pm It's interesting to see so many faculty and staff quick to scapegoat someone but not at all surprising. In my experience at Adams as a student, I've encountered academic advisers that have the most basic understanding of the process, faculty and staff that are quick to transfer you back and forth between departments because they fail to communicate with each other, and professors that can do no more than read the textbook to you for an entire class period. Perhaps some of you feel McClure has hurt the institution, but let's remember that she spends far less face to face time with the student body than the rest of those working at Adams. I influenced several students from out of state to attend Adams before I had a clear picture of the university. As of now, I wouldn't encourage someone to attend Adams. I might even talk them out of coming here and it has nothing to do with McClure. It feels like the majority of the faculty and staff at Adams go to work every day to pick up a paycheck. I understand as well that teachers don't make as much money as they deserve, but I also doubt the teachers and faculty that refuse to go above and beyond would be willing to sacrifice part of their salary to those that do. If the concern is enrollment, maybe we need to survey the students about their situations and how Adams can be more appealing to potential applicants. No student attends a school or convinces a friend to attend a school because of the president. I'm hoping AS&F will give me a platform to be able to bring these concerns to light and maybe we can formulate a plan to resolve these issues. Right now all this petty fighting reinforces my perspective that the faculty and staff care more about themselves and their own comfort than the students. I have had a few professors on campus that have really made coming back to school worth it. I hope you all can figure out how to elevate each other by adopting each others strengths instead of highlighting weaknesses.
February 21, 2018 at 4:52pm
February 21, 2018 at 10:47am Regarding Cleave’s response, I agree that he and the rest of the BOT are out of touch. Yes, enrollment has dipped because faculty/staff retention has dipped but not for his ridiculous economic reason. Why would an F/S member stay at an institution where they do not feel valued and are not encouraged or rewarded for innovation? Why would anyone stay where those who have committed actual CRIMES are rewarded with tenure, promotions, and successful retirements? The rubric is not consistent or objective. Yes, there people and individual departments doing great work. I wholeheartedly believe that. But the positive culture and support found in those departments are not institution wide – not by a long shot! Campus climate is set with smart administrative practice and policies. That hasn’t been the case for at least 2 decades. Regarding McClure’s statement, It is so uninspiring and unconvincing. Yes, you inherited a mess. Unfortunately for you, you didn’t realize how much of mess you were inheriting. NO ONE disagrees with that. But McClure’s responses were poor over and over again. She should’ve made real “necessary decisions” early on (i.e. cleaning house, demanding REAL transparency), but she never did. McClure accuses individuals “outside of ASU” for circulating false information. It’s so easy to say that. It’s so easy to say, “You’re not here anymore, so you don’t know what you’re talking about”. It falls very well in line with how out of touch the BOT is regarding F/S who have left. They have left because of run-ins with their supervisors and former/current vice presidents. They have left because of the campus climate I stated above. While this climate was not created by McClure, it was perpetuated by her actions and poor management practices. That is why so many are now considered “outsiders”. Speaking of those who have left… How many F/S have left? We can cite the previous articles showing the mass exodus in the past years. You can no longer say “if you don’t like it leave”, because there will be no one left. Now is the time to come together and not further perpetuate the broken morale of those left on campus. While I disagree with Matt Schildt’s stance, I stand behind his right to express it and condemn those who have belittled him. I refer back to the original purpose of this site which was and has been for “taking action for Adams, taking action for administrative change, taking action on behalf of faculty and staff who feel they are without a voice, and thereby taking action in the interest of Adams State University’s students, employees, mission, and institutional legacy.”
February 21, 2018 at 9:17am I'm apprehensive that, as all the goings-on at Adams State are reaching a wider audience, the actual and legitimate concerns are getting lost in the petty things, specifically this costume nonsense. It's essentially a self-erected strawman in the apparent zeal to depose McClure, something that is and has been (rightly, I'd say) criticized and has pulled attention away from the much more pertinent issues. In this desperate attempt to undermine the president (and in many regards for legitimate reasons), perhaps a toe's been shot off here. Count the headlines that reference the costume against those that reference the intimidation, and ask if that's representative of your concerns and desires for change.
February 21, 2018 at 7:53am How many more resignations are to come within the next few months before ASU becomes a dystopian society where the reptilian mainstays rule with complete control?
February 21, 2018 at 7:34am Is Matt Schildt suggesting the Board of Trustees was wrong? Blasphemy.
February 21, 2018 at 4:17am Dear Matt Schildt: First let me state that you are an individual on campus for whom I've never had anything but the utmost respect. I truly view you as one of the "good guys". As such, this response is in no way intended to belittle or demean your experiences. Rather it is designed to give you a different perspective--a perspective from a current employee. (In your email to Mr. Whaley you claim those quoted in the article are a handful of disgruntled former employees. I can assure you I am not.) I have worked at this institution for a long, long time. Things I have seen scare me. The losses of shared governance, academic freedom and freedom of speech are truly alarming. The bullying, harassment and general meanness are unprecedented. Granted, this was problematic, to some degree, under the Novotny/Svaldi reign, but nowhere to the extent that it became under McClure's "reign of terror". I have been truly terrified to speak. To speak out against injustices I have witnessed. To speak out in terms of taking up for myself. To speak out with simply my opinion about how we could be better as an instituon and community. I have been--and continue to be--terrified that if I do then there will be retaliation. And it is especially frightening now given the impending right sizing. And while I respect Dr. Nehring and believe him to be our best bet, I still find trust difficult (sort of like an abused animal). Dr. Elison is correct, you likely have different experiences, and therefore different metrics by which you judge McClure and her tenure here. And that is valid. But, please, do not demean or invalidate others'. It just perpetuates the problem. Thank you for listening.
February 20, 2018 at 9:58pm Re: February 17, 2018 at 5:05pm - "Yes, I want to know if Ana Guevara and Leslie Alvarez were less smug and vindictive this past week..." What is this in reference to? Please expound. Transparency please?
February 20, 2018 at 9:54pm My suggestion, not that it’s worth much and will only fall on deaf ears... begin right sizing with Ana Guevara (loose-lipped unprofessional) and Tracy Rogers (worthless) Karla Hardesty (under the bus thrower and backstabbing) Edward Crowther (bully, part of financial crisis) Frank Novotny (weeeelllll, little squeaky mouse) and Margo (unfitting at her job. Send her back to Canada. I think her visa is about to expire). My understanding there are two sessions of an all campus meeting on Thursday the 22nd @ 7:30am and then another @ 4pm in Porter Hall and lead by Dr Nehring! Too bad Simpson can’t attend and give the real reasons of dismissing McClure. Yes! I just realized, I need not to refer to her as President or Dr.! Nor ma’am or Ms.! She is going to become a middle class citizen like so many of us. KARMA!
February 20, 2018 at 9:49pm When will someone, ANYONE! besides Karla, or Ken for that matter, take a good, long, hard investigative, unbiased look at what each and every single person in admissions is "working" on? It seems as though the transfer coordinator is the only active recruiter in the local office. That's one packed schedule. Everyone else is too busy complaining about their jobs and throwing coworkers under the bus! WHO IS IN CHARGE? Karla has no clue! Not one, even though she spends more than 50% of her time in admissions. Want some cheese with that whine? YOU ARE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ENROLLMENT, it's your job. There are several schools in the valley that have only seen a recruiter once. Maybe those out of state numbers are up? Who knows. They sure aren't traveling. Just check the calendar, people! Not one California trip this year. No Texas, New Mexico or Arizona travels in 2018! Athletics to the rescue. At least we will be guaranteed some students next fall. Ask anyone in athletics, we will tell you, we alone are responsible for the majority of students on campus. Maybe the quick fix is to get rid of Karla and her admissions counselors. While we are at it, send the welcome center and its staff on their way too. Put Larry in charge of all undergraduate recruitment. That way the next time men's basketball goes to Hawaii they can recruit in at least 10 different schools on their off day! Bring back 2 sports and enrollment will go up at least 10%! Have the athletes and coaches lead new student tours, full of misinformation, and empty promises. All kidding aside, really it is simple, belive it or not, like it or not, there is a correlation between the decline in the number of sports on campus over the last several years and overall enrollment! Whine over a losing football team all you want. Some money in the black is better than all the money in the red.
February 20, 2018 at 8:06pm My New Year's resolution was to reduce stress, and one step was to ignore WatchingAdams. That worked for a while, but then the Board placed the president on leave, and I received many texts and emails about all the discussion. So, here I am again, for a little while. Someone suggested that the whiners (I think I'm supposed to be one of them) won't support any administrator. Not true. I have a ton of confidence in Matt Nehring, and I was impressed by Chris Gilmer. I know that's true of several other whiners too. I apologize to Matt if that just undermined his support on campus. "If Elison supports you..." Regarding Matt Schildt's email, I support his right to free speech 100%. I know what it feels like to express an unpopular opinion, so good for you. Obviously, I don't agree with his opinion. That doesn't mean I will belittle him. I just assume he had very different experiences with the president and perhaps evaluates her performance based on different metrics. I know a lot of relationships have been damaged over the past 2.5 years. Some of us will blame the president and others will blame her critics / supporters. Either way, I hope we can all agree that ASU needs a new direction (I suggest up) and our combined support. I'm still here because I love to teach and I'm idealistic about the value of education. Teachers need to keep teaching and students keep studenting. But let's not fall into the trap of ignoring reality. The duties of faculty go beyond the classroom. We are supposed to "own the curriculum," but we sure as hell didn't do that when it came to Extended Studies. Many of our woes could have been avoided. - Jeff Elison
February 20, 2018 at 7:58pm McClure released a statement to the Denver Post.
February 20, 2018 at 5:11pm Everyone is entitled to their opinions but Matt’s letter is disappointing and disheartening. One simply can’t ignore the facts and add to that how much ASU promotes diversity and acceptance yet all those in power are driven by the very things ASU speaks out against.
February 20, 2018 at 4:15pm Cleave Simpson's latest public statement sums up perfectly why the Board of Trustees must be dissolved, all members must resign and a totally new body formed to conduct ASU's future. If you expect failure, you get failure. According to the Denver Post, he believes that low unemployment is mostly to blame for dipping enrollment, that when jobs are plentiful, people are less likely to chase a degree. “People are going to go to work quicker than going to college.” In other words, despite shelling out more than a half-million dollars to McClure in salary and benefits over the last two-plus years, he believes that she has been defeated by an improving economy, that somehow ASU's continued financial decline is not really her fault. If this self-pitying "we're just a tiny podunk college so what do you expect" attitude pervades the board and the administration, then no wonder we are failing. And if so, why pay big bucks to any ASU president if the board accepts that externalities will defeat them. Big bucks demands big results, not big excuses. This losers' attitude is particularly galling when other small universities in other rural towns are doing just fine, thank you. Let's face it. If Adams has any chance of future success, this board must be replaced with confident, competent and inspiring leaders who demand results, not excuses.
February 20, 2018 at 3:08pm I don't agree with Matt's take on Bev; there is no doubt that she is toxic for morale and has been a total failure in terms of improving ASU's dire financial situation. But I gotta hand it to him. He has the guts to stand by his point of view, albeit a view through one very squinty eye, and put his name to it. Kudos for courage if nothing else.
February 20, 2018 at 2:42pm Feb. 20th at 2:30pm - Schildt is like a Trump supporter, shouting "fake news!" whenever his dear leader is maligned over truthful reporting. Yes Matt, all the news outlets are conspiring against McClure, who has been Making Adams Great Again for the past 2.5 years!
February 20, 2018 at 2:30pm Hey Matt Schildt: Are you going to cancel your subscription to the Chronicle as well? I mean, they must be biased too?
February 20, 2018 at 2:28pm Dr. Schildt Shills for Beverlee? Surprise, surprise. So who else inside ASU is still a McClure supporter? We need to find them all, identify them, and hold them accountable for supporting the worst elements of ASU. Simply put: those who stand behind the status quo are supporting declining enrollment, financial ruin, apologetics for incompetence, a culture of retaliation, and the flight of hard working faculty and staff from our university. Hey Matt, here's a basic rule of journalism: when you ask both sides for their story and only one side gives a comment, you go with the story you have. The Board issued a vaguely-worded statement a week ago and then made an incredibly weak-sauced statement about how ASU's enrollment is falling due to lower unemployment? Really, Cleave Simpson? Nice try. Nobody is buying it. Colorado is a growing state and other universities are experiencing a growth in enrollment over the past five years – while ASU's has declined. Meanwhile, McClure has been missing in action, off the grid, and even the Board doesn't know how to reach her. So if you complain about a lack of “multi-sided journalism,” it's only because the side you are championing are cowards who duck and cover as soon as the inevitable shit hits the fan.
February 20, 2018 at 2:20pm Wow! Dr. Schildt, you have either: a) had your head under a rock the last three years or b) you are completely delusional. Seriously, the data does not speak for itself about McClure's performance? Does that "costume" not offend you? It offends me and my working class family. But more bothersome is the fact that you spoke in behalf of the university after Dr. Nehring asked us not to. It was sent on ASU letterhead! Unbelievable!
February 20, 2018 at 2:00pm The following email was sent to the Denver Post on Feb 20, 2018 12:39pm from firstname.lastname@example.org: Dear Mr. Whaley, I was very disappointed to see the article on Adams State in the Denver Post. This article is so blatantly one sided and quotes a handful of disgruntled former faculty members as if what they are stating is the irrefutable truth. I am surprised that the main source of your article was given this platform to air their grievances and most everyone I know on this campus would consider him a very disreputable source with ulterior, mean-spirited motives for his actions. My experience as a faculty member at Adams State does not mirror your article in any way and you have clearly put your desire for a sensational story above factual, unbiased, multi-sided journalism. As this poor excuse for journalism was deemed worthy of the front page, I will take pleasure in canceling the subscription to the Denver Post I have had for the last thirteen years. Sincerely,
February 20, 2018 at 12:39pm Re: University email - ...so as an employee of the University do we not represent the university? Now ASU is about individuality? Nice try.
February 20, 2018 at 11:12am The following message was sent to all ASU employees on Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:39am Office Of The President Responding to journalist inquiries Good morning, I know many of you have received inquires from journalists looking to cover the Board's decision to put President McClure on administrative leave. Each of you need to make your own decisions about whether you want to respond to the inquires, it is a matter of free speech. Please know that you are under no obligation to speak or provide comment, but if you choose to do so, you should make it clear that you are speaking as an individual and not on behalf of the university. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, Matt Nehring Acting President Interim Vice President for Academic Affairs Physics Professor
February 19, 2018 at 9:50pm This is all sad, but welcomed news. Governance, i.e. the board of trustees are just as accountable as the President. They all need to be replaced and held to account for letting things get out of hand in the first place. I hope they are exposed for what they let happen. They are making a scapegoat out of the president for their lack of oversight and covering up their own incompetence. That simple. I’m so embarrassed to say I went to Adams State. From top down the school is mismanaged and the children of the San Luis Valley are exploited. This is the real tragedy. My kids will not go to this school when they are ready nor a dime of my money. Shame. - AAron
February 19, 2018 at 8:30pm One of Crowther's favorite sayings: Any jackass can kick down a barn, but it takes a good carpenter to build one. And what kind of parasite does it take to defend the rats that are destroying the barn from within? Queen rat is gone, you parasites better scurry away and hide.
February 19, 2018 at 8:01pm Some of this news coverage gives the Board too much credit. They sat there silently after her Halloween spectacle, never issuing a public statement denouncing her behavior. "No problems here. She's wonderful."
February 19, 2018 at 8:00pm 6:38 pm - You hit the nail right on the head. Although it was paramount that Bev be dealt with one can’t overlook the fact that her sycophants were already in the business of skulduggery, lechery of various kinds and thievery at ASU before Bev ever got there and they need to be dealt with. If not they will only corrupt (at least try to anyway) the next person to take the helm of ASU. What needs to happen is to find out the root of their immunity and deal with them. Some have been around since Wueste.
February 19, 2018 at 6:38pm From US to U.K., what a shameful day for ASU, for her sycophants, and for the BoT who did not fire her earlier. A shameful day especially for Arnold Salazar. I feel for the hard working, honest and dedicated employees of ASU, and the students who came to ASU in search of a dream and a future - they absolutely do not deserve this day. They have been let down by the BoT who let this cheapness and fiasco continue for many years... sad!
February 19, 2018 at 4:08pm I see that Otero Junior College is hiring a new president. I hope they receive letters of dis-recommendation against McClure.
February 19, 2018 at 3:50pm McDonald's is hiring assistant managers in Clovis, NM.
February 19, 2018 at 2:18pm Question: who in their right mind would hire Beverlee McClure after reading today's article in the Denver Post? Adams State places president on leave amid uproar over bullying, offensive Halloween costume
February 19, 2018 at 10:30am Feb. 18 @ 9:39am - That sounds like what the custodial department has gone through for the last 10+ years.
February 18, 2018 at 9:49pm Sadly, this doesn't bring any of the good people who have left back. And, I'm sure, we'll lose more to right sizing.
February 18, 2018 at 8:12pm Feb 18 @ 12:10 - Yes, Karla Hardesty needs to go - yesterday. During her tenure as executive director in enrollment management, we have seen the most significant declines in enrollment in our institution's most recent history. She helped to run off Eric Carpio by consistently throwing him under the bus to McClure, not to mention her negativity toward her previous supervisor - a person who supported her at every turn, even though he knew her deficiencies. Yet she stabbed him in the back, as well. These are the two individuals in addition to Michelle Romero who grew enrollments in historic ways. Karla couldn't even get the dang director position filled... search failed! Karla FAILURE! I wouldn't hire her to manage my lunch break. Cut the fat? Yes! Let's start with an overpaid chameleon, two faced, worthless excuse for a human. Talk about promoted WAY beyond your abilities. But that's what Bev liked - "less than"... made her "shine." Ha!
February 18, 2018 at 12:10pm If enrollment has been on the decline for all these years and there has been no prior intervention, shouldn't another mean girl be on the list now that her protector is gone?
February 18, 2018 at 9:39am Good article: Dominant Leaders are Bad for Groups. Why Do They Succeed? - Dominance involves using power, coercion, and intimidation in group situations. [Hi Bev, bye Bev] - Dominance works as a tool to gain power, if not respect, but generally douses a group’s well-being. [ASU is so much better off after Bev's reign of terror.] - Dominant workers tend to exhibit arrogance, superiority, and conceit. They have higher-than-average levels of aggressive, disagreeable, manipulative personality traits. Dominant people also score highly in the traits known as the ‘dark triad’: Machiavellianism, narcissism, and psychopathy. [Narcissist definitely; psychopath probably] - In groups, dominant members tend to view others as either allies or foes, to evaluate people’s usefulness in attaining goals, and to show a hunger for power. [We hold these truths to be self-evident.] - Leaders high in dominance go to great lengths to safeguard their power, even at the cost of the group. They want to coerce others through reward and punishment. They often view talented group members as threats. [Poor Chris Gilmer] - Dominance-oriented leaders ostracized a talented group member and chose instead to work with an incompetent one. [Chris vs. Margaret, Kurt, Tracy] - They isolated their subordinates and prevented them from bonding with one another, because alliances among subordinates were viewed as posing potential threats. [Just polarize the whole campus and things will be swell.]
February 17, 2018 at 5:05pm Yes, I want to know if Ana Guevara and Leslie Alvarez were less smug and vindictive this past week...
February 17, 2018 at 4:10pm Where are all the strident Mean Girls now that their queen bee is under duress? Why are they not openly rallying to her cause? Who is organizing the support parade? Bueller? Bueller? Margo? Heather? Tracy? Thought not. Fair weather opportunists and bullies, the lot of you. Stay as still and quiet as you can, but you won’t find a rock big enough to hide under. The game has changed, the reckoning is coming. As others have said, we’re just 15% of the way there. Matt, we’re counting on you to clean house.
February 17, 2018 at 1:54pm And don't forget Frank Novotny. He was right in the thick of those decisions along with Svaldi and Mansheim. Right-sizing Novotny out the door would save two entire professors' salaries.
February 17, 2018 at 9:35am February 16, 2018 at 2:28pm - Don't forget Heather Heersink.
February 16, 2018 at 7:57pm 2:28 wrote: "Unsustainable debt service obligations are among the main reasons ASU was audited for poor financial performance and had its credit rating downgraded." And if you read the HLC report, it sounds like administrators were cooking the books. Had they not, HLC would have come down on us earlier. [On page 38]: "Both the overall Composite Financial Index (CFI) as well as ratios which comprise the Index raise concerns about the financial operations of, and fiscal resources available to, the institution. The peer review team was unable to verify the FY 2013 CFI and while on site, requested that the institution recalculate this index. The recalculated CFI worksheet is in the addendum area of the assurance system. Upon institutional recalculation, the CFI dropped from the previously reported 1.40 to (0.06). [Oops, we don't math good here at ASU.] Had this been calculated correctly upon submission in November 2014, it would have triggered a Financial Panel Review because it was below zone and was a second consecutive year with the CFI in or below zone. The past five fiscal years have shown a CFI range of 1.90 five years ago to 0.48 for the most recently submitted CFI for FY 2016. All those years would have indicated the institution should 'assess debt and Department of Education compliance and remediation Issues' and 'consider substantive programmatic adjustments.'" Next paragraph [on page 39]: "Operating results indicate ASU has not been living within available resources (Ibid, p. 107). 'A continuing decline or pattern of deficits is a warning signal that management and the governing board should focus on restricting the institution’s income and expense streams to return to an acceptable net operating revenues ratios' (Ibid, p. 128)."
February 16, 2018 at 2:28pm Let's also not forget the amount of capital construction debt the university incurred in support of the bottomless money pit that is ASU football. Unsustainable debt service obligations are among the main reasons ASU was audited for poor financial performance and had its credit rating downgraded. We can thank Svaldi, Mansheim, and the 2010-2014 BOT members for that.
February 15, 2018 at 10:07pm Regarding the comment about the football team, the unfortunate truth is, yes, the 90-100 students currently paying tuition to play football at ASU bring in at least $1 million per year, if not more. However, a large percentage of this is paid for by student loans, which players take on with the hollow promise of being able to make it to the pros. Of course, we all know, nobody playing football at ASU makes it to the pros. A similar story could be told of multiple other students playing sports at ASU. In other words, a very large percentage of students at ASU are going into debt to play sports, not earn a degree. ASU's extremely low graduation rates confirm this tendency.
February 15, 2018 at 11:48am Football brings in $13,500 to the campus but costs just over a $1,000,000 to keep running. Just me thinking, but is that justifiable for a team that barely wins any games? Do they bring in enough tuition that the costs are offset? Personally, I don't care either way, but it seems like there's a lot of waste in several of their programs. If they offset the costs I can see it being useful, but if it is putting ASU even further in debt, then we can probably do without them. Any information that I'm missing?
February 14, 2018 at 9:47pm Ultimate irony: Ledonne has been allowed back on campus ever since ASU lost the ACLU lawsuit, but McClure is a Persona Non Grata.
February 14, 2018 at 7:45am To what is the "watching the watchers" comment referring? Are you talking about the fact that Bev has Computing Services monitoring certain people?
February 14, 2018 at 7:42am It looks like the Board had its own vote of no confidence. So many happy faces on campus, in spite of imminent layoffs. Tells you something about Bev's management skills.
February 13, 2018 at 5:45pm A leave of absence/administrative leave is what ASU always does to show the mirage of them doing something to someone in a managerial type of job. It’s their way of playing with our emotions only to leave us deflated when the person returns. They never return with a hint of humility, remorse or change. They come back with vengeance on their breath. I’ve witnessed it before.
February 13, 2018 at 4:05pm What I read is the careful legal language of a university that doesn't want to get sued for breach of contract. Thanks for sticking her with us for three more years, Arnold. Yuck! But could McClure really be seen as a legitimate leader at this point? The Courier already reported on this story. We're all moving on without her toxic brand of leadership. We don't want her back. Bottom line: MCCLURE MUST GO. If the Board is somehow daft enough to put her back in the job or if she twists their arm into reinstating her, it's up to the students, faculty, staff, and community to refuse her leadership and demand her resignation. ASU can no longer afford her "expertise."
February 13, 2018 at 3:49pm 3:35pm - Nehring's photo was posted on two webpages earlier today. Now they are switched back to McClure's. If you read the announcement, McClure was put on the "leave of absence" - not "fired". Huge difference there. I have a gut feeling that she is not going anywhere.
February 13, 2018 at 3:35pm 3:18pm - I'm not convinced. I checked last night and that profile was still there - had it ever been changed? ASU is notoriously bad about updating their campus directories and info pages. The campus announcement of McClure's removal is still online.
February 13, 2018 at 3:18pm It seems like McClure is not going anywhere... Profile has been switched back. We are all back to square one.
February 13, 2018 at 11:06am If we are cleaning the swamps, let's work on Heather Brooks next. She is a Beverlee Clone.
February 13, 2018 at 10:57am Time to start watching the watchers. The ones doing the most damage are the ones who sit back and watch other people on camera.
February 13, 2018 at 9:41am Glad to see Nehring’s efforts are acknowledged! Notice Margaret is not! She’s part of the Problem. Hmmmm, why didn’t she assume interim President? Cause she worthless! Move her out too, then pack up Tracy Rogers and Anna Guevara! We are making great stories, folks! Clean out the riff-raff! 2018 is looking clearer!
February 13, 2018 at 8:46am February 12, 2018 at 9:04pm - 8:42 is correct. Stopping with McClure would be a mistake; only about 15% of the necessary job. McClure is out. Ding dong the witch is dead. Bye. Get out of town. McClure has 1 1/2 years of salary guaranteed due to the Board’s decision last year. What a blunder. Next to go should be those that were paid $150k that built their secret society. Next to go will be key administrators in Athletics once financial malfeasance, cronyism, and their power over the ASU NCAA Compliance officer who interprets rules and eligibility decisions becomes public information. Next should be the HR Director. What a joke of a professional. Bye. Go away. You are horrible at your job. A good start for Adams State. But this initial cleansing should be just the beginning. Accountability now must become transparent.
February 13, 2018 at 8:40am
February 13, 2018 at 7:47am February 10, 2018 at 8:35am - who said anything about trashing other schools? Of course it's about promoting ASU's many pluses. Now that the constantly boorish Beverley has been given the chop, perhaps you McClones will get an attitude readjustment and stop being so negative.
February 13, 2018 at 7:21am McClure gets the boot, now that's what I call "right-sizing." Looking forward to a better future for ASU.
February 13, 2018 at 5:15am Replying back to February 12, 2018 at 9:01pm - I hear you, and I do thank the members of the board who acted. I do see many fresh faces and agree that they are likely the ones to credit for this important decision. As individuals, they are certainly to be applauded. As a governing body with fiduciary oversight, it still must be said that the board took far too long to act. The board collectively bears responsibility. I’d love nothing better than to roll up sleeves alongside you to rebuild ASU, but I am now among the innumerable departed. Wishing everyone who remains Godspeed.
February 13, 2018 at 4:57am While I agree that those who aided and abetted McClure’s actions need to go, they need to dig even deeper than that. There still remains those who were involved in many forms of skulduggery before she ever even worked at ASU and not just out of RH.
February 12, 2018 at 10:33pm When Waddell and Elison disagreed with the former president on one legal issue, she called them sexist. So I'm guessing she will accuse the entire Board or entire university of sexism and try to sue.
February 12, 2018 at 9:04pm 8:42 is correct. Stopping with McClure would be a mistake; only about 15% of the necessary job.
February 12, 2018 at 9:01pm Dear February 12 @ 8:42 - I completely agree with you on all points. I would just ask that you be aware of how board membership changes -- every year -- with new membership. I think it is at least worth thanking those newer members who were not on the the board at the time of her hiring. I believe they have undone a grave injustice previous (and some current) members committed. The bottom line: Yes, it's time for a number of individuals, who aided and abetted her actions, to go. But importantly, let the rest of us come together and work with our new president to fix our institution.
February 12, 2018 at 8:42pm The board should have taken action long ago, so sorry - I just can’t bring myself to pat them on the back. Far too many lives destroyed over the past few years while they fawned and diddled, far too many good people gone. If they wish to earn back half of our respect, we’ll need to see more heads start rolling. Quickly. Let’s begin with Margaret. And all of HR. And Novotny should be called to account, no matter what his current title.
February 12, 2018 at 8:14pm Hallelujah! After two years of the reign of terror, "Her Royal Highness" McClure is out! Now if the board and President Nehring simply allow the appropriate dominoes to fall, we will likely solve next year's $2 million budget deficit. Nice work, Board! We all are breathing a little easier tonight - well, except her evil minions.
February 12, 2018 at 8:03pm Big news! McClure is out! Pack your bags! Hire the moving van! I don't care where you go but you cant stay here!
February 12, 2018 at 7:41pm Wow! Board of Trustees you took the initiative, finally! President Nehring that has a good ring to it.
February 10, 2018 at 8:35am The Feb. 7 @ 1:37 really got it wrong on recruiting. He/she wrote about recruiters "Their job is to convince prospective students NOT to go to other universities." No. No! NO!! And hell no!!! You don't recruit by trashing other schools. You recruit by promoting the many pluses of Adams, and help prospects understand how it can be a great choice for them. You don't sell Fords by trashing Toyotas, sell State Farm Insurance by talking badly about New York Life. It's a losers game. But that is why it made sense to the writer. He/she also asked "Do you seriously think a new faculty can negotiate a $100K salary?" No, they cannot. Nor did those on the Oregon Trail find homes built and fields cleared and plowed. They traveled with a dream and backbone, ambition and grit, and built the territory and some their fortunes. So it is at Adams, and any university. It is not your entry level salary that defines you, it is what you do with it and yourself. There is opportunity for those with ambition, dream, backbone, and grit, as evidenced by those here who have achieved. You know them. They are the ones you often wail against because they have exactly that. But then Adams has an undercurrent of anti-achievement. Interestingly someone calling an employee a "phony" for serving in leadership on a school board. That's as un-phony and legit as you can get. Another poster rightly explains it - yes, we value community service. Those who have shown leadership at Adams have also shown it in their communities. Serving in Rotary and Kiwanis, Boys and Girls Clubs, numerous valley school boards, credit union boards, as mayors and city councilors, on the Chamber board, heading up the SLV "branding" initiative, tourism boards, and on and on. Adams State is valued in the Valley far more than by some who draw their pay here value it. Thank you Ms. Romero, and all the others who step forward, lean in to the work and make the university and the Valley a better place. And someone wrote "gag me." That would be nice. But you gag yourself by showing how repulsed you are by good work, achievement, leadership, contribution to the Valley, service, and all of the other things you don't have within you to do. Just criticize. Yes, "gag" you would be a good choice.
February 9, 2018 at 9:08am It's all BS. Not one person in administration knows what to do. Maybe Dr. Nehring & Mr. Simpson could right size & fix things, the problem is they are surrounded by leaches. Forget crumbling, admissions is now shattered.
February 8, 2018 at 12:56pm Feb 7th, 9:19 p.m. - Erica does a wonderful job as ASD School Board President and as a parent of a student in the district, I’m grateful she chooses to serve in that role. If you, too, are interested in serving our community, consider attending the Feb 20 Information Session hosted by the ASU Center for Civic Engagement. ASU’s mission specifically mentions inspiring others, so I think you’d find it helpful to learn about how faculty and staff can promote community service and civic responsibility. We need more of that kind of representation rather than unhelpful negativity and petty jealousy.
February 7, 2018 at 9:19pm Re: February 4th and Erica Romero - In today’s Valley Courier article, it’s nice to see Ms. Romero taking ASU time for photos and school board duties! What a dedicated woman. NOT! What a Phony! Gag me!
February 7, 2018 at 1:37pm February 5, 2018 at 11:05am - You seemed to have missed the point. You say that "she [everyone's daughter] determines her future, not college recruiters." That's right, but college recruiters determine the college's future, or are a pivotal part of that future. Their job is to convince prospective students NOT to go to other universities, but come to ASU. Yes, Michael Mumper is a good teacher and works hard. But so are, and do, most other professors. His over-the-moon salary has nothing to do with his teaching ability or work ethic. It is the result of a golden parachute built into his original employment contract. Nothing more! How many other teaching faculty get $122,000 a year (excluding those who participated in the Extended Studies scam that crashed ASU's national reputation; or like Novotny, who got a similar lucrative landing)? Let's face it: when the university is heading for financial collapse and mass lay-offs are expected, do you really think a new faculty recruit can seriously negotiate a $100K-plus salary? I mean, seriously?
February 5, 2018 at 11:05am To Feb, 4 @ 10:54, I'm sensing some anger. The "screw ASU," says more about you than about ASU. If your daughter is recruited by Stanford, she should go. If she desires to go to ASU, she should go, and not wait for someone else to ask. She determines her future, not college recruiters. And btw, we are all ELL in this country. Nothing special about it. To others, regarding Michael Mumper earning $122K, that's great. He is a good teacher, created the MPA program and works hard. He should be an inspiration, along with other ambitious faculty who earn over $100K. That's a great incentive, and a great tool for recruiting new faculty - the opportunity is here. Make something of it, and of yourself. Regarding Melissa Freeman, yes, cut the fat. She has no talent and contributes nothing in exchange for her toxic personality and granted $69,000 salary. The grant is a farce, and it only enables her. We would be better without both.
February 5, 2018 at 9:02am @February 4th: Lots of goodies for those 2nd graders too! T Shirts, water bottles and photos. Very interesting. Meanwhile, at home in the Valley, Western State admissions counselors are busy doing their jobs! Talking with HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS about attending college and giving them goodies! If the University can afford to send 4 Adams State representatives to visit a classroom of 2nd graders in Pueblo, why is there any concern about financial hardship? P.S. Has anyone seen the Mesa State commercial?
February 4, 2018 at 10:54pm Read the Chietain earlier. The mascot was in Pueblo elementary school. Have they ever taken him/her to the elementary schools around the valley? Isn’t Erica the President of the Alamosa School Board? Where is the recruiting there? Or are Pueblo kids more important than valley kids? Maybe they can get more “gifted” kids from out of the valley? My kid is an ELL student. Recruit her! Oh wait, she’s not G/T. She won’t fit in with your “ASU” kids. Maybe CSUP will be more open to having her there. No wonder full time enrollment is down. Screw you, ASU! My parents fought to have the right to have their kids educated. Now you people are pissing on that. I’m done with ASU! Sad! So sad! Make ASU great again!
February 1, 2018 at 5:55pm Who, during this very critical time, is managing admissions? The "search" for a new director was a failure. So what? Will there be a new search or will the blind continue to lead the blind? Those with firsthand knowledge tell me the application count for fall is down. Seriously down! There has been ZERO out of state recruitment since last fall. Who knows what the recruiter assigned to the much sought after and needed San Luis Valley does all day? Can we rely solely on the Metro areas and transfer coordinator to save us all? No enrollment = no money. What are they doing down there? Who is in charge?
February 1, 2018 at 11:45am Here are some more numbers: According to this website's ASU EMPLOYEE SALARY DATA, the highest paid faculty member is Michael Mumper. He is paid $122,280 per year to teach political science. He is past retirement age. His wife, Melissa Freeman is the Title V grant activity director. She is paid $69,768 per year to do a job she created for herself. Together, this husband/wife team make $192,048 at Adams State University. If the powers that be are paying attention to waste and corruption, this seems a good place to start. Adams State University is well on the way to becoming "Adams High Altitude Sports Training and Conference Center". It's the only way to actually increase income for the institution. Higher Education is on the way out. With enough grant money, they may also be able to continue the Migrant Program. I'm sure Ms. Freeman already has plans for this. Adams State is so top heavy with administration, that faculty have become an extraneous liability. But Adams State faculty members cannot punch their way out of a paper bag. What administration and faculty do well is meetings, workshops, and retreats. The hot air exchange would rival the Albuquerque balloon festival. Trim the fat - Mumper & Freeman. Save your breath.
January 31, 2018 at 10:22am Dear Mike, As a former employee of ASU's Business School, you of all people should be judging ASU on its financial performance. Wasn't it you who used to say in class; "Count the numbers cos the numbers count"? Here are the numbers - again! Enrollment numbers have been declining for years. Student retention numbers have been declining for years. Graduation numbers have been declining for years. Debt has been going up for years. Salaries in real terms for teaching staff have been static or declining in real terms for years, while at the same time, overall, salaries in real terms for members of the executive team, senior administrators and coaches have been going up. You can whine about the whiners, moan about the moaners and criticize the critics. But, Mike, the numbers remain the same. Any accountant, banker, financial adviser, business school professor - and even 101 business students - can see that. And even 101 business school students know that if you just keep cutting costs - that's McClure's only plan - without increasing your income, then your business - in this case, ASU - cannot possibly survive. The numbers say it's so. So, as a "business expert" how about you propose some ideas to improve the numbers instead of whining like the other whiners.
January 30, 2018 at 8:20am @Jan 30th @ 6:57am - I don’t see anyone bashing the people who pay them. I have seen no taxpayers or students getting bashed. Let us all remember who is paying everyone at ASU: students and taxpayers. The big issue is the elitist attitude of people like you in thinking that it is somehow your money that runs the institution, it is not. It is my money, as a former student, and my money, as a taxpayer. I am an alumnus and I am disgusted at what is happening to MY institution. FYI, I am not an employee. FYI, I was always listed as a donor in the A-stater and not at the $100 level. I am no longer a donor and will not be until I see the student numbers back where they should be: double what they are now. I hope you guys get it figured out because Adams used to be great. Now... meh.
January 30, 2018 at 7:34am Re: January 30 @ 6:57am - Mike Tomlin, just give it a rest. You will never be hired back at ASU, much less be our next president. People not only don't like you, they don't respect you. Go write another "bathroom read" to earn your keep. Maybe the topic of "how to get away with harassment."
January 30, 2018 at 6:57am Dear January 25th and your "For the sake of our families please tell us." Did you ever consider for the sake of your family just doing your job? Keeping your yap shut? Not criticizing the very people who pay you? But then, no. The self pity and class envy crowd at Adams exposes itself daily. You also wrote: "I wonder how much time and consideration will be given to those of us who are likely to get the axe? Will we get letters of recommendation?" And "Will Princess McClure sacrifice her bonus during this 'really really difficult time'?" Right, trash the president and ask for a letter of recommendation. Smart. Hopefully you will get no time and consideration. Hopefully you will not get a letter of recommendation - and hey recommendation for what? What would it say? "Hire this person and they will undercut you and your administration anonymously, cowardly, and help create unrest at your workplace." I'm sure there is a "letter" ready for you and others. Call HR and make an appointment to pick it up, and turn in your keys. It will make the Committee of 21's work a lot easier. And it will make Adams a lot better.
January 30, 2018 at 12:15am In reference to: January 29, 2018 at 5:24pm - “Looking at Google Drive will give you the names of those on the “Committee is 21” and I can assure you here are a couple of names contained therein that are definitely on the outside and have taken a stand against McClure publicly.” Please do share who of the 21 have taken a stand against McClure publicly? This would be interesting to seek discussion with these individuals regarding the meeting and their work.
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January 29, 2018 at 5:24pm Looking at Google Drive will give you the names of those on the “Committee is 21” and I can assure you here are a couple of names contained therein that are definitely on the outside and have taken a stand against McClure publicly.
January 29, 2018 at 4:23pm Here's a relevant article from today's Chronicle Vitae: Off the Team and Out of a Job: What do you do when you’re not included in the new president’s plans?
January 25, 2018 at 7:33pm I wonder how much time and consideration will be given to those of us who are likely to get the axe? Will we get letters of recommendation? What about our families? How many children are going to lose health insurance? How many people may not be able to make house payments? Will Princess McClure sacrifice her bonus during this "really really difficult time"? At the very very least don't we deserve an exit interview, directly with the board? I wish someone, anyone, would just tell the truth. If they were hoping for 5 classified to take early retirement, only to rehire 3, just to save $50k, does that mean at least 25 jobs are on the chopping block? Who were the last 25 hired? Billy Adams is likely rolling in his grave. Just tell us how long we have! We are more than just some 900# collecting paychecks. Please!!! Professors aren't at risk. Mr. Lopez is good to go. All of those riding out the storm on the coats of those of us answering the phones, you are safe. Please, for the sake of our families, just tell us. This is the last chance for any of you to do something right. It's going to be hard enough. Don't blind side us.
January 25, 2018 at 6:34pm Re: January 25 @ 1:56pm - Hear! Hear! Mikey--you resigned, albeit late, thus leaving your department in a lurch like the vindictive a$$ you are (are those dollar signs as good as the ones in the crosswalk?). Given that resignation and your personnel problems, your opinion carries little weight. And frankly, you have no professional credibility. A twice (at least) fired harasser. Maybe that would be a good review for Amazon.
January 25, 2018 at 1:56pm The saddest thing about 'January 25, 2018 at 8:08am' is that the ghost of Michael Tomlin continues to haunt ASU even after he was exorcised from his chair position and eventually from campus for multiple accounts of very bad behavior. "The power of personnel files compels you!" Here's a gem: "Unfortunately, there's the occasional dumb ass, too self-absorbed in their own pity to be of any value." - Now there's a "Rock Solid Lesson" for Tomlin! It may be time for him to take a "Hard Look" in the mirror and stop peddling his unending allegiance to ASU's "management" when it has so obviously and repeatedly failed ASU's students, staff, faculty and Colorado taxpayers. Give it a rest already, Mike. Your complicity in ASU's online and on-campus abuse of class sections and course overloads has only made things tougher for the good people at Adams State.
January 25, 2018 at 12:03pm to January 25, 2018 at 8:08am - “Sometimes this site is saddening about the future of America. The questions asked have to make you wonder how some people who can evidently read and write, simply not know basic things. It seemed like this...:” My concern is the future of Adams State. -graduation rates -professors stealing from ASU and still working at ASU with zero accountability -mounting debt that can’t be restructured or paid If you are not on the committee of 21, you are on the outside. “When you sit down at the poker table and you can’t find the fish during the first few hands then you are the fish.”
January 25, 2018 at 10:56am 1/25/18@8:08am - “Management”...use of this word saddens me about the future of higher education as a whole, never mind our school. Higher education is not a business. It is a social good. Treating it as anything otherwise is precisely how Adams fell to its sad current state. Universities don’t have “management”. They have administrations and boards, whose respective responsibilities are to safeguard the operational and fiduciary health of the institution so that the faculty - a school’s true organizational leaders - can focus on their core educational mission. It’s a tragedy that more ASU faculty don’t realize this and hold administration and the board accountable for the current state of affairs.
January 25, 2018 at 8:08am Sometimes this site is saddening about the future of America. The questions asked have to make you wonder how some people who can evidently read and write, simply not know basic things. It seemed like this...: > Who picked the Committee of 21? > What is the Committee of 21? > What is a Committee? > What is 21? Earth to employees everywhere - management probably picked the committee. You see, when you take a job you work for people who are appointed to jobs at higher rank than you. That gives them the responsibility to do the pickin'. This happens at places other than Adams too. If you didn't know about the committee, try going to campus meetings. If that doesn't help, then ask your supervisor. If they don't know and you are faculty, ask the faculty senate president. He will know. If you are staff, ask your staff council president. She will know. Sometimes it's not questions on this site but rather statements that boggle the mind. Someone wrote "I saw new Hispanic students looking for where they might be served." Were they newly Hispanic, or just new students? Did you help them find a place, maybe a place that serves only new Hispanic students, or did you just watch them as they looked, and then walk away? Of course a good strategy would have been to aim them at a faculty member or departmental assistant. They are famous for helping all students, not just those newly Hispanic. You can walk them to the One Stop, or really anyplace on campus and ask a staff employee to help this student, since you don't know how to help students. I'll bet our good staffers will ask questions, or make a call and get the student help. Life on campus is pretty good, with a lot of good employees who help people everyday. Unfortunately, there's the occasional dumb ass, too self-absorbed in their own pity to be of any value. Hopefully the Committee of 21 will keep the right ones.
January 25, 2018 at 7:31am January 24 @ 11:22am - Ok, I'll bite. What are the "actual facts"? Thanks.
January 24, 2018 at 11:22am January 22, @10:44am - Perhaps you should check actual facts before spewing stupidity.
January 24, 2018 at 7:34am What's the committee of 21?
January 23, 2018 at 8:56pm So this "committee" of 21... who decided that they should keep their jobs?
January 22, 2018 at 10:44am How timely was Bishop’s “departure” from ASU? How timely was her “return”? She never truly left, her leaving was a smokescreen on so many levels most notably the fact her departure coincided with the investigation and her return happened as soon as the HLC suggested ASU be taken off probation. One thing she excelled in is information so the new job title is fitting. “Miss Information” should be her proper title.
January 22, 2018 at 10:19am Just watch how Ed dumps his coffee and the grinds into the water fountains and you will see how he truly feels about those “beneath him”...
January 22, 2018 at 9:53am Wait! Where’s or where was this position posted? “Chief Information Officer, reporting to Kevin.”
January 21, 2018 at 1:17pm January 20, 2018 at 9:02am - “One week under our belt and no comments here about the joy of seeing our students, or the buzz around campus with the new semester beginning, or the happy new year greetings as we see our colleagues and coworkers following the holidays. Well that is how it was for me - a good week, and energizing. (Mostly) good people doing their work, and of course our great students.” To Jan 20 at 9:02am - You can find uplifting, spin cycle stories on the ASU website “Great Stories Begin Here”. This site is only for truth to be exposed mostly anonymously and not be fired. I saw 5 Professors that have averaged $140k per year the last 3-4 years still stalking the coffers of ASU, an AD that got a $30k raise 4 years ago from Svaldi (hush money), tried to guess the 17% of the new Freshmen destined to graduate in 4 years or the 28-30% that will graduate in 6 years...walking the campus headed to turn their loans over to ASU...I saw new Hispanic students looking for where “they might be served”, saw 700 athletes dressed in new UA and NB warm-ups walking to classes (ok only 300+ with the rest in bed) I don’t want ASU to close. Period. I just want the thieves and cronies gone. ASU needs a cleansing from the top down. Any shareholders of this company would and should demand this. Let’s go to the board and get new leaders... never mind.
January 21, 2018 at 3:17am Chief Information Officer, reporting to Kevin.
January 21, 2018 at 12:03am In reference to this: “ASU has hired a new assistant CIO--Tracey Bishop. What is a CIO & where is She located ?
January 20, 2018 at 9:25am I have attended my share of Crowther’s talks and he has proven himself to be the last person to lecture anyone on Martin Luther King, Jr. Despite all of his posturing about supporting the oppressed and vulnerable, Crowther has regularly made a practice of standing with the powerful and corrupt to advance his own career or merely just to side with the administration instead of faculty.
January 20, 2018 at 9:02am One week under our belt and no comments here about the joy of seeing our students, or the buzz around campus with the new semester beginning, or the happy new year greetings as we see our colleagues and coworkers following the holidays. Well that is how it was for me - a good week, and energizing. (Mostly) good people doing their work, and of course our great students. But then others of you live in your self-pitying unhappy little world. Posting here about who to fire and listing people who have already left, presumably just to trash their names. Classy. You list professor Crowther - did you attend his MLK presentation? What was your contribution to the event? And then the gossips - "I heard she tried to empathize," and "I heard she walked off the stage when she was done." You "I heards" out there should go to the meetings, and not live in your "I heard" gossip world, or get your jollies by spreading your "I heard" trash talk. You are the virus, the phlegm, that has infected our campus. The President is not easy to like, but she is leading us in the right direction, and the Board is finally getting its proper legs under it. Let's work to improve our university and make positive differences in our students' lives. Those are far better outcomes than at the end of the day knowing that your only contribution to life was that you spread "I heard" gossip.
January 19, 2018 at 6:02pm Reading past today's misleadingly cheerful Courier headline, the article itself makes one thing clear: Plan B has been Plan A for years now and the Adams State Hunger Games have begun: "Cuts have yet to be implemented, but the board stressed on Wednesday that the in-progress contingency plan is now ASU's regular financial plan. "This is our financial plan," said ASU Board of Trustees Chair Cleave Simpson. "It is no longer contingent on something. This is what we have to do. We're committed to working with everyone involved to truly make this successful and it's going to be truly difficult." ... And we should be impressed that the Board canceled their retreat in San Francisco in favor of "as local as possible and as cheap as possible"? Why did the Board think it was a good idea to charge ASU students and CO taxpayers to go to San Francisco to begin with? McClure should triple her salary, then reduce it by two-thirds, then praise herself on her financial discipline in the Valley Courier's next edition!
January 19, 2018 at 7:21am I heard President McClure walked off stage as soon as she finished her last sentence with no chance for questions. Scared? I also heard her attempt to empathize with how stressful this is fell flat. Any other impressions of our great leader?
January 18, 2018 at 6:27pm The criteria for who to fire are incomplete. They should start with the people who put us in this situation, those who ran up our debt to unpayable levels, and those who are responsible for the HLC probation. Let's start with Novotny 1 and Novotny 2, Jill Coddington, Benjamin Longfellow, Kristen Scott, Elizabeth Hensley, Linda Reid, Bill Schlaufman, Bill Mansheim, Walter Roybal, and Ed Crowther. Of course, some of these people have escaped from ASU unscathed.
January 18, 2018 at 2:04pm Who's bringing popcorn to the campus meeting? I have a feeling we are in for a long one.
January 17, 2018 at 12:01pm As HR seeks volunteers for early retirement buyouts, and the right sizing committee begins its deliberations on who to fire, ASU has hired a new assistant CIO--Tracey Bishop. Wow! Just wow!
January 15, 2018 at 6:24pm @January 15, 11:30 am - Awesome way to clarify how petty and immature, not to mention paranoid, recent comments that have taken an all time low. However, I am still seeking clarification on the size of a cockroach's behind and its capacity to carry around a wart?
January 15, 2018 at 11:30am To respond to a few recent posts: Adams may monitor your email - duh! If you are an employee then you likely signed an agreement for use of a computer and/or an email account. This is a work account and it is owned by the employer. There is NO promise of privacy. Many large employers regularly monitor employee's email, this is not unusual. Having said that, Adams does not waste much time or money checking employee emails, but it should be remembered that what you write on your account is for work, on work equipment, and should only contain work content. Kurt and Ed are tight, so beware - right, and Donny and Marie are siblings, Rob knows rocks, Tammy and Lori are co-workers, and I am pretty sure Jimmy cracked corn. There is some useful information. All of which will help us with HLC, I'm sure. Kurt listens to conversations - okay. If it's on campus hopefully he'll catch you discussing how to increase math pass rates, or improve retention, or effective recruiting strategies, or teaching techniques that work. Or wait, is he more likely to hear you bitching about your work, trashing the people who hired you and pay your salary, or otherwise undercutting your employer and fellow employees? If so, that's on you, not him. Who cares who is listening? Just do your job.
January 12, 2018 at 1:24pm I suspect they monitor personal email, as well. Anything accessed via ASU computers could be compromised.
January 12, 2018 at 5:10am Kurt Cary and Ed Crowther are tight so beware of both.
January 11, 2018 at 11:38am Jan 11 10:35am - Kurt Cary is no better than a wart on the behind of a cockroach. And he's not the only nor is that the only tactic. Be very careful about what you do on university computers, using your university email account and be careful around any security cameras. They do watch and listen.
January 11, 2018 at 10:35am Watch what you say and do. Kurt Cary goes all over campus and listens to conversations. He’ll even hide in a room with the lights off and listen.
January 10, 2018 at 6:07pm ASU refused to release the draft report on January 8. Then they turn around and release the final report on January 10? Perhaps CORA violation? Certainly suspicious!
January 10, 2018 at 3:20pm The following email was sent to all ASU employees on Jan 10, 2018 at 3:13 PM: From: Office of the President Subject: HLC Visiting Team Final Report... Please see the following message from President McClure: Dear Faculty and Staff: As we begin a new semester, I wanted to share some positive developments around our most recent correspondence with the site visiting team of the Higher Learning Commission. Following its comprehensive visit this past November to consider reaffirmation of accreditation, the HLC site visiting team is recommending that the sanction of Probation be removed for Adams State and commends ASU for the progress it’s made in addressing prior HLC concerns and resolving federal compliance concerns. It is important to note that this is only a recommendation and that both the Institutional Action Council (IAC) and the HLC Board have full discretion to disagree with the underlying findings and/or recommendation of the visiting team, and the HLC Board has other options at its disposal should it determine, based on the evidence, that a different or less favorable outcome is warranted. Certainly we all should be “cautiously optimistic” that the HLC Board will adopt the recommendation of removing the Probation sanction when it meets this summer. There is no question based on the site visiting team’s full review and recommendations that the hard work and intensive hours many of you put into the site team’s visit this past November led to the positive recommendation. Adams State was placed on probation in 2016, mostly due to a lack of oversight for the online learning and written correspondence course in the Extended Studies program. The site visiting team notes in its recommendations that these concerns have been addressed. There were five core components to the site team’s visit: Mission of the University; Ethical and Responsible Conduct of the University; Teaching and Learning, including Quality, Resources and Support provided by the University; Teacher and Learning components around Evaluation and Improvement; and University Resources, Planning, and Institutional Effectiveness. The HLC site visiting team determined Criteria 1, 2, and 3 were “met” and Criteria 4 and 5 were “met with concern.” A follow up visit will be required in 2020. As an institution of higher learning vital to the health and well-being of the San Luis Valley, we look forward to a full review of the site visiting team’s recommendation by the HLC Board. We will continue to share updates as we receive them. In the meantime, it’s onward and upward with Adams State. Please join us January 18 at 4:00 p.m. in Richardson Hall Auditorium for an all-campus update. The full report is located at: https://www.adams.edu/hlc/adams-state-university-final-report.pdf. Have a great spring semester!
January 10, 2018 at 1:57pm Jeff Elison's point is spot on, but doesn't go far enough. Those who whine "we don't care," or "we do nothing," are truly ignorant of the work good people do every day at Adams. Yes, meetings of faculty and staff, students and student leaders, community members, specialists and consultants, and others, all to improve learning opportunities for our students - many who struggle. And truthfully, colleges don't need to do any of that. Adams should be commended. One writer asked about "demographics." We should not care about the divisiveness of demographics. It is not a "demographic" that fails math, or drops out, or incurs student loan debt. It is a person. But that takes us to the very racist "help" programs that are open to some and not to others. One demographic however should be looked at - the large number of SLV area high school graduates who cannot write and cannot pass "grade 13" math.
January 9, 2018 at 8:53am Dear Jan 8: I'll repeat this, I was responding to a question and accusation: "I'm asking what was done and why wasn't there any concern?" I provided facts, data, and an incomplete list of actions. I only used "Title V to support my argument" in that they funded work to address pass rates in remedial math and students not taking advantage of tutoring and other support services. You can't tell me the folks in Title V don't care about pass rates and graduation rates. The meat of my argument is that a bunch of other people (virtually everyone in the Math Dept including adjuncts, me, and a math education consultant) actually took time and effort to do something. I think that partially answers the original question (what was done?) and refutes the accusation that there was no concern. Regarding Title V and racism, I meant I don't know the folks in that office very well. You took that and made a leap to saying I don't "know enough about Title V" and stretched it farther to talking about our students. To answer your question, I have been at ASU seven years. - Jeff Elison
January 9, 2018 at 7:36am While it is a huge injustice that non-Hispanic students feel like they don’t matter here at ASU let’s look at a few alarming things the powers that be are doing. They see being an HSI as a means to stuff their wallets. They are exploiting what it is to be Hispanic for their own selfish gain. Sure, they let us have our CASA and our Cesar Chavez week and let us build hornos and try as we may to keep our traditions and count on the fact that that is enough for us and to a large degree sadly it has been. Then they turn it into a form of demagoguery; again to fatten their bank accounts. As much as I am for keeping and remembering the traditions of such a proud people and culture what the powers that be are counting on is that we remain in the past and celebrate the heroes of yesterday because then no one will rise up and answer the call of today’s cause. As for the people who claim to “help their people”? They only do so because that’s where the money is. We are nothing but job security for them. Bob Marley had it right when he sang, “send us another Brother Moses...”, it’s time for a new generation to rise up. As for those who call for us to give you our names? Know who we are as a people; as human beings first and not just a means to exploit us for gain and job security.
January 9, 2018 at 6:20am @January 8, 2018 at 5:32pm - please explain the demographics to which you are referring to those of us who are unaware?
January 8, 2018 at 5:32pm You not knowing enough about Title V is exactly my point. Yet you use Title V to support your argument. How many years have you been working at Adams, Jeff? You should know as well as Matt Nerhing. Apparently you guys think it's OK not have a better understanding of the demographics of ASU students.
January 7, 2018 at 9:36am January 4, 2018 at 8:49pm wrote: “Wait Jeff. You did not address the first part of the 11:06 PM comment. Accusing the Title V department of being one of the most racist departments on campus." No, I didn't. I was responding to the question about what had been done about low pass rates in remedial math. None of the students in the focus groups mentioned Title V. I don't know enough about Title V to speak to this accusation. However, the next comment made it sound like they only help students with "brown skin." In my brief discussions about the Math 09x studies I did, Title V folks told me that of course the work they were funding would help all students. That was certainly true of all the work I was involved with. Also true of other initiatives they funded, such as bringing in a math education consultant, repeatedly. - Jeff Elison
January 5, 2018 at 8:40pm The biggest function an HSI has is to integrate and not segregate but the latter seems to be the only form of functionality at ASU. LatinX serves a great purpose especially since there are not many Hispanics in places of leadership at ASU but there again it’s only served as a means to segregate especially within LatinX itself! There is more division within LatinX at ASU than there is any hint of unity. Those who claim to “help their people” do so and hold it over their “peoples’” heads in one form or another.
January 5, 2018 at 7:18pm @ 5:48 PM: “Engaño” if you want to imply dishonesty or fraud. “¡Es un robo!” for something priced way too high. I think both apply but I’m sure the CAMP scholarship is available whether you qualify or not. If that’s how they “help their people” count me out.
January 5, 2018 at 7:08pm I think most of the reactions and emotions y'all are sharing are completely valid and I want to thank you all for sharing. In regards to those of you implying that the Hispanic Serving Institution designation is a marketing ploy. Sure. To an extent it can definitely be seen as so, but also understanding the historical context and how we came across such is important as well. I've linked the article below for some background reading on the history of what it means to be an HSI. Honestly, I had no idea what it meant a couple years back. Here's my challenge to our institution as a whole. Most of the ASU community understands we're an "HSI" but also to an extent many of us don't understand how to put it into practice. Right? So ask yourself how many times within our departments have we brought into our meetings, "hey how are we doing in regards to serving our hispanic/ latinx identified student populations?". For me personally, not a whole lot and I'm planning on changing that. So I encourage all of us to engage in these conversations, and really think critically about what actionable steps are next so that we feel like we're achieving our institution wide goal. Bring it up. Set aside from time. Just do it as Shia Lebouf (he was on Disney channel) once said! Don't feel like you can go to the BoT or the President? Start with your colleagues or with yourself and perhaps think of ways to implement it into practice. Doesn't have to be huge, but starting small can have a significant impact! We have a lot of potential this year, I really believe so! Hope y'all had a great holiday The article for though I mentioned before: A Closer Look at Hispanic-Serving Institutions What is "latinx"? Read more here: Rodriguez: The X in LatinX
January 5, 2018 at 5:48pm Yes 2:15pm, I know many former students whose families are more poor, who are in deep student loan debt, and who have no degree at all - thanks to the predatory admissions policies of Adams State University. Given that only 28% of Hispanic students enrolled at ASU earn a degree in 6 years (about half the state's average), the university is engaging in blatantly fraudulent marketing as a designated Hispanic "Serving" Institution. So what's the best way to say "rip off" in Spanish?
January 5, 2018 at 2:15pm Well if ASU is being accused of catering to Hispanics then where does the fault lie when the numbers show a lesser percentage of Hispanics completing their education? Do we let the blame rest at the feet of the students or the people who claim to help “their people”? I don’t see how ASU is a true HSI with those kind of figures. Fact is the students, faculty, staff, community and parents are all being bled dry to line the pockets of the Richardson elite. Everybody serves RH, BOT, HR and the boot lickers who do their bidding.
January 5, 2018 at 10:21am January 5 @ 6:42am - That is the most ludicrous conjecture that has ever been posted. You are delirious. Thanks for the humor. It made our day.
January 5, 2018 at 6:42am Of course the Title V program is racist - by plan, by design, by staffing, by implementation, and by practice. The only students we care (institutionally) about on this campus are migrants, and others of brown skin color. Pete Gomez talks about helping "his people," and that means only the ones just referenced. Try to get reading or math help for a student with black or white skin color and you are turned away. But it's bigger than Title V. When racism charges were made against a previous transfer coordinator, they were ignored, the accuser punished, and the coordinator promoted. Jeff Elison is right about the students. Those questions have been asked and are regularly asked, and the answers are disappointing. But all colleges have those students. It is because of our small size and unique mission that we have a disproportionately larger population of them. Then we stupidly herd them into demographically defined groups (migrant, Hispanic) to better prep them to succeed in the general population. It is the exact opposite of how we should help all students - but follow the (grant) money and the protected employees who exploit and spend it. Much like with opioids, the treatment (to pain) created a larger problem. Such as it is with grants and the untouchable people they fund.
January 4, 2018 at 8:49pm Wait Jeff. You did not address the first part of the 11:06 PM comment. Accusing the Title V department of being one of the most racist departments on campus. That is huge! Wow!
January 3, 2018 at 9:03am Dear 10:41 and 11:06: "So we are saying that the students just don't care?" No, SOME students said that, not all. However, the number was alarming. "They don't want to graduate." Sure they do, but not all of them have a clear understanding of what that requires. I didn't invent the "C's get degrees" saying. I find it very troubling to hear that from students. "Sometimes you should not rely on a survey, you should just talk to the students themselves." Indeed! We created the surveys after running six focus groups with students from the Math 09x classes. We started by identifying the themes that came up in those focus groups. Yes, being intimidated or poor tutors were mentioned occasionally. However, lack of motivation, not caring, and lack of time were mentioned more often, as were complaints about MathXL. I suspect the biggest problem is prior education in that their educational experiences did not provide an adequate base for math and convinced them they couldn't do math. Low self-efficacy for math was the number one predictor of grades. I'm not blaming anyone here; I'm just reporting the data. I responded to a question: "I'm asking what was done and why wasn't there any concern?". There were other efforts by the Math Dept as well (revising content, focusing on "less [content] is more" teaching), but I wasn't involved in all of those, so I can't tell you much more. Some things to consider: "The most recent PISA results, from 2015, placed the U.S. an unimpressive 38th out of 71 countries in math." "Colorado schools rank 21st in the country in Education Week's annual Quality Counts report released Thursday. The state scored an overall grade of C, the same grade as the nation. That ranking is the average of three separate indices: "Chance for Success," "K-12 Achievement," and "School Finance."" "The rankings vary by measure, but Colorado's rank ranges from 39th to 47th across all states in K-12 education funding." "In terms of average faculty salaries based on purchasing power, the United States ranks fifth, behind not only its northern neighbor, but also Italy, South Africa and India." Colorado is way down the list for faculty salaries in the U.S. and ASU is probably the lowest paying public four-year institution in Colorado. On the list I saw from 2015, we were above community colleges, Naropa, and a few art institutes and seminaries. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure I didn't need to say that). :-) - Jeff Elison
January 2, 2018 at 11:06pm Title V is one of the most racist departments on campus. Run by Neo-liberals who only pretend to care about students of color. Many students did not feel comfortable with going to the tutoring centers because they could not relate to the professors and tutors that were there. Most general education math classes are weighed on tests and not the work that is done in class and for homework. There are also many math professors to find it disrespectful to ask questions during class in which a student would have to make an appointment with the professor after class in order to find out what they didn't understand. Sometimes you should not rely on a survey, you should just talk to the students themselves.
January 2, 2018 at 10:41pm So we are saying that the students just don't care? They don't want to graduate. That is the biggest bullshit I've ever heard in my life.
January 1, 2018 at 6:45pm ----Editor's Note: Readers may be interested in the related Watching Adams podcast from a former ASU math instructor: Andy Zaugg: “I Can’t Do Math and It’s Not Important”
January 1, 2018 at 6:36pm Jan 1, at 9:45 - "What plan was made to assist these students with what they needed to pass? I'm not saying make it easy for them. I'm asking what was done and why wasn't there any concern?" There was and continues to be a great deal of concern. Many people put in many, many hours attempting to address this problem. I was one of them. Title V funded studies, which including surveying students, to find sources of the problem and solutions. Title V also funded studies to figure out why so few students go for help (e.g., tutoring or to professors) when they need it. Changes were made in the Math 09X classes and in the tutoring centers, including more "marketing" of available services. The studies revealed two clear themes. First, many students in these classes have very low self-efficacy when it comes to math. So they tend to give up quickly once they start having trouble. They learned earlier in school that "they can't do math." Second, regardless of subject, many students don't care enough to make the effort to get help, or study enough. I'm not being judgmental or jumping to conclusions, they told us these things, over and over. - Jeff Elison
January 1, 2018 at 11:34am I think the real problem is not with the math department, it is that students at ASU are consistently being coddled and the standards of the institution keep being lowered. I know many people, not just at Adams, that struggled with the math requirement. Rather than dumming down the standards, how about ASU raises the admission standards? College is not for everyone. Maybe it is the fact that ASU has watered down the value of its degrees by letting everyone in. The valley has a JC, maybe that is a better place for people who need remedial help. Math is a requirement at any institution. ASU is doing a disservice to everyone by admitting everyone. The math department was great to both my wife and I. The professors were always willing to help. I am sorry that some people are just too lazy to do the work. Oh, by the way. I had Matt Nehring for multiple classes. He was a good professor. He is good for the institution and I hope to god he does not water down the value of my degree by lowering standards. I agree that a 75% failure rate is an issue but I think the issue is not with the math department but an issue with admissions. Again, college is not for everyone and by letting in individuals that can not do the work we do everyone a disservice. I follow Watching Adams regularly and I agree with a lot that I see here but lowering standards in order to accommodate the lazy is not the answer. Again, college is not for everyone. -signed, an ASU graduate, class of 2007, who actually earned their degree Also, if you would like my contact information, please post yours in the comments and I will respond personallly.
January 1, 2018 at 9:45am If any academic department has a 75 percent failure rate of a general education class under poor leadership, why would we want the same leadership to be responsible for all of the academic departments? What plan was made to assist these students with what they needed to pass? I'm not saying make it easy for them. I'm asking what was done and why wasn't there any concern? Fact check the failure rate in Banner. Numbers don't lie.
January 1, 2018 at 8:03am To December 30, 2017 at 8:13pm: We don't understand your point about Dr. Nehring visiting Admissions. He has his degrees and is likely not looking to apply. He also is the VP for Academics - essentially the lead faculty member. The Admissions office is an entirely separate office. There is no need for him to meddle there. But your point that admissions is a failure is spot on. There has been no defined, strategic, recruiting and admissions plan in many years - in recent memory actually. Of the many good things your president has done and cleaned up, this is one issue where she has failed thus far. While evidently unpopular on this site, The Promise Scholarship and guaranteed tuition are actually good tools. But they have never been effectively promoted or used. Hopefully 2018 can be the year where everyone recruits, everyone promotes the good things about Adams, and you all come together to strengthen a good university. Hopefully too the new recruiting hire will craft and execute a good plan and we will see the results.
December 30, 2017 at 8:13pm Matt Nehring hasn't been to the admissions office 1 time. Does anyone have a clue what goes on down there on a daily basis? There is no strategic plan to recruit students for fall 2018! Someone with credibility and some plan, ANY PLAN had better get down there soon. Or maybe Karla already knows that it's too late? Where is that preliminary HLC report? While we are at it, what about the more than 200 students who aren't able to register for spring because they didn't pay for fall? Dont worry, its only $500,000! Keep collecting your paychecks everyone. The well is running dry.
December 30, 2017 at 10:24am December 30 5:32am - Do you have any additional reasons why Matt Nehring would be a "terrible choice"? Because your only reason is worthless. He had little control over the pass rate in those classes, but we do know he didn't just drop standards to let everyone through. I can't think of a better person in ASU administration.
December 30, 2017 at 8:52am December 30 5:32am - I appreciate your point about a 75% failure rate in the mathematics department under Matt's leadership. But let's be honest, there are many more variables than just Dr. Nehring--not excusing it--simply looking at it from a multi-faceted perspective. Perhaps this is indicative of the students who matriculate into ASU, which in turn is indicative of the quality of mathematics faculty or the lackluster GTLC. I'm not completely certain without data collection and regression analysis. But what I can unequivocally conclude is that based on the logic of a variable of one (Mart Nehring), then Liz Thomas Hensley would be an excellent choice for VPAA--no rigor, huge pass rates. I, for one, just can't go to the opposite end of that spectrum.
December 30, 2017 at 5:32am Matt Nehring would be a terrible choice for the VPAA position. Did we forget that while he ran the Math Department most students were at a 75% failure rate for Gen Ed math? How many students are out there who have completed all of their credits and only need math to graduate? I'm not sure why he was picked as the Interim VPAA.
December 29, 2017 at 12:25pm At a minimum, I hope Matt Nehring applies for the VPAA position (I wish the board would just appoint him). He truly seems to be the only person with any sense and who cares about this campus! He works from the heart and what is best for ALL at ASU--not his own agenda. And he's a nice man. That goes a long way considering the "mean girls"' club.
December 23, 2017 at 11:47am Want to be the next VPAA at ASU? This job description doesn't do justice to the workplace hazards of reporting to Beverlee McClure...
December 19, 2017 at 11:04pm @9:22 pm: that’s not the Financial Aid philanderer I was referring to but maybe you are right in what you say. It totally makes sense. In other news Rodney is going to get off “Scott” free. I couldn’t resist the bad joke but sad thing is everybody is going to be the punchline. Not even the mailroom which he ran for a short time has recovered from his despotic reign. His maddening methods have passed on to the one who currently runs it now. Rodney controls ASU, people. He controls us by manipulating those in control. He fits the profile of a sociopath, a jealous and possessive boyfriend and a cult leader.
December 19, 2017 at 9:22pm Maybe the philanderer and the politician have a little something going on! Ever think of that? Why is she always allowed to be campaigning and gone? After all, the philanderer is her boss.
December 19, 2017 at 6:55pm Ask anyone who has a degree... Yes, let's. Let's ask those who have received a graduate degree from ASU (especially an MBA). What were their undergraduate GPA's that merited their entrance into a grad program? What were their GRE scores? Were they pursuing a graduate degree just so that they could continue competing in their sport? Answers: below 2.5, what GRE scores?, and yes. Way too many cases like that to count. There are certainly good people doing good work here but they are drowned out by poor leadership/administration and the few faculty that remain who conduct business illegally and unethically (Crowther, Hensley)
December 18, 2017 at 2:25pm Notice how Guaranteed Tuition isn't even mentioned anymore (in ASU's PR or BOT communications) in terms of how it can attract or retain students, boost enrollment, or even address the increasing costs of attending ASU? That's how poorly-planned a policy it is. And it will be remembered as part of Beverlee McClure's failed presidency. Moody's was correct in downgrading ASU's credit as a result.
December 17, 2017 at 5:22pm Financial Aid, they are watching you too and a certain male trying to be promoted from campus flirt to campus philanderer.
December 17, 2017 at 5:05pm Clearly 25% of the staff at Adams will be cut. Careful everyone, careful. Years of dedicated service won't me a damn thing. Admissions...they are watching you!
December 17, 2017 at 5:00pm Ask the majority of ASU students who never earn a degree and are saddled with the debt... ASU Graduation Rate 26% Lower than State Average - "ASU’s four-year graduation rate is only 15.3%. And in six years, only 34.2% of students will graduate with a degree. The same data shows the statewide average for six-year degree completion at 59.9%." A university that only confers degrees to one third of the students who attend there? That's unacceptable and taxpayers should be outraged that ASU is a long-running dropout factory. Don't tell us that ASU's educational achievements are solid. They are shoddy. And covering for the soft bigotry of low expectations doesn't help ASU students or the San Luis Valley as a whole.
December 17, 2017 at 4:05pm Talking of degrees and jobs: Erica Romero, who is employed by ASU, but who is never at work because of her other political obligations, does not have a degree. Yet she’s trying to run ASU, ASD, the hospital, etc...
December 17, 2017 at 3:45pm Ask everyone who has degrees and jobs because of Adams... then tell me the educational achievements are not solid.
December 17, 2017 at 1:55pm If you think this website doesn’t have facts, you clearly cannot read. This past week, we saw more facts about ASU’s deficit spending, rising interest payments on the university’s debt, diminishing revenue due to lower enrollment, rising costs to students, being among the lowest average university salaries in the nation, and now being about 45% overstaffed due to all the shrinking programs. Those are facts, ladies and gentlemen. So you can celebrate the bread and circuses of athletics, but the educational foundations of ASU are not solid and the financials are not sound.
December 17, 2017 at 1:42pm No facts are presented here, only peoples opinions and negative attitudes towards ASU, if there is truly good happening at ASU we need to recognize that too, not just complain about everything. Cross team takes nationals and you wanna talk smack... whatever haters, jump in a lake!
December 17, 2017 at 9:20am "Chris Lopez was not the first choice for the PR/Marketing position, but Beverlee made sure he was hired." Yes, there were others with much better qualifications and experience, but Chris, with his ties to certain BoT members, had one quintessential asset that placed him above the others. Loyalty. Bev, like Trump, values loyalty over and above skill, experience, intelligence, ingeniousness and energy. Chris may have all those things, but he must defer to Bev's omnipotence - because she is an expert at everything and beyond challenge. This means keep his nose down and mouth shut and simply taking Bev's orders. If he does not, he will lose his job. This of course is what happened to that other Chris. Gilmer put the needs of the university first, above those of the need to feed Bev's fragile ego, and was fired. And of course the BoT capitulated. We will know soon enough if Chris Lopez has a spine because he will not be long in his new seat. Being fired by McClure is now a badge of honor because it shows you have a heart and a brain.
December 15, 2017 at 11:28pm Many good people work at ASU. And many more have left - either because they were run off, disemployed, or simply found a better job elsewhere. This isn’t an accident. Adams State seems quite committed to retaining incompetent bullies and blowhards while punishing innovators, those willing to uphold high standards, or advocates of academic integrity. Just observe who is still drawing six figure salaries and attending lavish parties while running ASU into the ground. And then wonder why Dr. Gilmer was forced to resign at the threat of being sued by Beverlee. The qualified are kicked out, the inept are rewarded generously. But hey, it’s always easier to blame a scapegoat: the HLC, “negativity”, “cyber bullying”, etc. That’s what a failed leader does.
December 16, 2017 at 11:06pm Anyone at ASU doing a good job? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Only Danny I guess, because he goes to plays and what not.
December 16, 2017 at 10:23pm I am so sad that the BoT and the Administration have allowed Adams State to fall to this level. I'm angry that they continue to pad their pockets while the rest of us are left wondering if we will even have a job. Obviously they don't care how their greed will affect Adams State employees or the the SLV.
December 16, 2017 at 8:30pm @December 15, 1:48 PM: Rodney will remain employed at ASU regardless of the current investigation on him. Kurt and Ana will make sure of that. The only reason they started the investigation was because the HLC was in town at the time. In this current investigation they are asking only for pertinent information dating back to only a year or a year and a half back. If the all the prior investigations regarding the last 20 or so years of his tenure hasn’t gotten him fired the current investigation regarding the last year or so of his tenure only cements his stay at ASU. Thank you, Kurt. Thank you, Ana.
December 16, 2017 at 6:55pm Beverlee has been a disaster, and it is shameful of BOT not to have realized this long time back. Their decision to hire her in the first place was an extremely stupid decision. It was clear reflection of the unsophistication and naiveté of BOT. Anyone with experience and professional maturity could see right through her during the interview process. BOT should have dumped her a longtime back.
December 16, 2017 at 1:34pm I would encourage the Valley Courier to shut down its publication. All it does is divide the community with facts about how poorly run ASU has been for years and years. If only the administrative incompetence were kept under wraps, ASU would be great and getting even better!
December 16, 2017 at 12:26pm Regarding this morning's Valley Courier articles, it's too bad the Board and president only acknowledge all these problems now that layoffs are imminent. Rather than addressing them openly, or addressing them at all, they chose to hide and deny problems in the past. I am amazed by the variety of admissions, so much bad news: We are overstaffed for 3,000 students when we only have 1,600. Does that mean 45% of employees will be laid off? ASU currently sits at the bottom of CUPA’s list of average salaries for 89 institutions. There's a shocker. 2010 was ASU’s peak enrollment year and it has decreased every year since. Great job. ASU wouldn’t have to worry about the competition as much if it was still the most affordable public institution in the state; however, it is now the sixth most expensive of public institutions. Holy crap! They blame this on HLC and the drop in online courses, but they never mention the interest and fees for capital construction, or acknowledge that Extended Studies was a joke deserving of HLC's sanction. I can't wait to see Moody's reaction this spring. B-team here we come. According to McClure the average Division II percentage of student athletes is 15-18 percent and ASU is made up of 40 percent student athletes. ... “We can’t get our revenue correct because it costs more per full time equivalent for an athlete,” said McClure. In spite of McClure's statement about athletes, this is Trustee Pryor's take: "While major cuts to the athletic program weren’t discussed, other than the approval of the department’s criteria, Trustee Wendell Pryor added on Friday that he would like to preserve the department as much as possible. 'I would certainly like to not tear down the progress we’ve made in the athletics program,' said Pryor. 'It has to be a shared sacrifice and I’d like to preserve as much of that infrastructure as we can.' Wendell, please resign and take McClure with you. Why does it have to be a "shared sacrifice"? Let me see, we are a university that has to make cuts. Universities exist to teach. But let's cut academics equally with athletics. Your attitude pretty much summarizes one of the biggest problems in higher ed today. We are fighting for survival and if anything is to survive, it needs to be education.
December 15, 2017 at 5:53pm Re: December 15 @ 2:03p.m. - Not to mention interfering in campus employment searches. Chris Lopez was not the first choice for the PR/marketing position, but Beverlee made sure he was hired. Possibly because of his relationship to someone on the BoT?
December 15, 2017 at 2:03pm Salary and benefits combined, ASU students and taxpayers have paid Beverlee McClure well over $500,000 and counting. What do we have to show for it? Declining enrollment, financial ruin, public embarrassment, academic devaluation. There are so many better ways this money could have been spent.
December 15, 2017 at 1:48pm Forgive this comment as this conversation seems to have happened quite some time back but I have just learned of this site. I am very surprised to see that Rodney Martinez still works at Adams, I haven't worked there in many years but I recall at one time he was arrested for beating his I'm assuming now ex-wife. Being drunk and wrecking an Adams vehicle. As well as using facility equipment and other resources to have a side business cleaning. And I do recall that he was an umpire of either baseball or softball (cant quite recall which if not both) during regular business hours when he should have been at work doing whatever he does. So it seems he likes to double dip or maybe triple? Not to mention all the sexual harassment allegations that were "settled". Wow Adams you really let this continue for so long!?
December 15, 2017 at 9:32am We're not the only ones suffering. Check out this poem regarding the compensation package for the prez at Wake Forest: Poem About Your University President’s Completely Reasonable Four Million-Dollar Compensation Package
December 14, 2017 at 10:20pm December 14, 2017 at 6:29pm - You know, there's something remarkable about reading your comment while at the ASU Theatre Building to film the Nutcracker Ballet. I haven't missed a dance recital since I started recording these programs in 2004! So yeah, I care about my hometown for many reasons and I've been going to events and activities at Adams State since I was a kid. I have no intention of stopping anytime soon. The San Luis Valley needs a community hub for creative and intellectual life. ASU needs to be the best it can be. And I think we can all agree that ASU could do better - for its students, its employees, and the community at large. It has to. - Danny Ledonne
December 14, 2017 at 8:57pm It's interesting that nowhere in the contingency plan, which is supposedly to help save ASU from bankruptcy, is there a suggestion that McClure or Doell or Hardesty et al take a pay cut. They are entirely happy to eviscerate everyone else's livelihood, but they make no sacrifice themselves. So much for all that crap about being in this together. Then they wonder why they have lost so many people's respect.
December 14, 2017 at 8:37pm December 13, 2017 at 5:26pm - Kari Allen is Heather Brooks' sister who somehow didn’t have to apply for the position that was never advertised. Hmmmm. Let’s take this a step further, Heather Brooks (Alamosa City Manager) and Randy Wright, who is on the ASU board of trustees are very good friends. In fact, Randy is a puppet of Heather. Heather is very good friends with McClure. It’s easy to see how Kari Allen was hired. The City of Alamosa wouldn’t be much without the support of ASU. The cesspool needs drained at ASU, the City, and the Chamber of Commerce (Wright’s employer). Very surprising that none of this has been made public!
December 14, 2017 at 7:28pm The ones who divide the community and undermine the SLV as a whole are people like HR, Doell, McClure, Hardesty, etc. They implore those who make the least amount of money to make the biggest sacrifices. They bleed ASU dry to ensure their livelihoods are left intact should the doors close. They make sure to keep the integrity of the term “Hispanic Serving Institute” to serve themselves and their ilk and live the American Dream.
December 14, 2017 at 7:14pm The fact that Danny even posts comments from the detractors shows he’s not here to bring ASU down. If a site like this didn’t exist it would benefit those who have plenty to hide.
December 14, 2017 at 7:13pm @6:29: I would encourage you to stop reading if you don’t like this site!! No one is forcing you to, I’m quite certain!
December 14, 2017 at 6:29pm I would encourage you to shut down this site, anyone can make up a name or even put someone else’s name making it seem like they wrote it... this site helps no one... In fact it further divides our community, but what do you care you live in Oregon.
December 14, 2017 at 2:21pm While periodically this page receives a rash of Trump-like personal attacks, with absurd calls to fire swathes of ASU employees, the majority of comments are mainly concerned with finding out what is going on in the echoing halls of Richardson. For example, as someone recently asked, what is the plan to earn the income to dig us out of the debt chasm into which the university has slid? Is that not a reasonable question? Most people simply want to know what's going on at ASU, but because Dr McClure and the BoT are intent on keeping us in the dark, we must resort to WA to share information. It is not ideal, but there is no other choice, and it is lucky for us that we have someone like LeDonne with the technical skills to provide us this channel. I don't agree with a lot of comments, and the tone of some is distasteful, but this site exists only because our "leaders" have actively repudiated shared governance and organizational transparency. This site would dissolve if they took their responsibilities to us employees seriously and started engaging with us as adults.
December 14, 2017 at 10:58am The only way to save millions of money is by downgrading our athletic department from NCAA Division II to Division III. Students come to ASU to get a degree! It is mind-boggling how people could say things like students come to ASU to play sports and without strong sports, we won't students. Athletics is NOT the student life - just a PART of it. In higher education, academics has to come first. If they don't get it, they shouldn't work at a teaching institution like ASU.
December 14, 2017 at 10:24am Danny Ledonne is a jealous, bitter keyboard warrior who is always on Facebook and other ridiculous blogs like this, I think it’s only he who posts and puts fake names. Also this site allows others to post under whatever name they like. How bout you go serve the community instead of complaining about others on the internet...... p.s Go Trump
December 14, 2017 at 7:26am Can someone interpret the budget document posted here? Are we really $7.2 million in the hole this year? Are we really paying almost $5 million in interest on our debt? Thanks Bill, Frank, Dave, Beverlee, and the past Board of Trustees members. Swell job that will cost us ours.
December 13, 2017 at 9:48pm There were many times a job was posted for two hours or less in RH especially when it was starting to be renovated. They would put the job post on a wall where nobody could see it.
December 13, 2017 at 6:08pm Well color me surprised! Heather Brooks is Beverlee McClure's lead booster amongst a very shallow pool of remaining support.
December 13, 2017 at 5:26pm Kari Allen is Heather Brooks' sister who somehow didn’t have to apply for the position that was never advertised. Hmmmm.
December 13, 2017 at 4:52pm Yet again, more about the contingency plan but absolute silence about Plan A. You know, the one you put into action before Plan B? Every 101 student in business school will tell you that any commercial operation - and that is what education has become - can only survive if it generates income. Trimming the fat is fine, but if you are already anorexic, cutting services, cutting resources (in our case, the human capital we call employees) and cutting morale without demonstrating a strong plan for income recovery, is a death sentence. You can reorganize your debt and negotiate extended repayment schedules... but eventually the bank manager is going to call in your chit. So... and let me repeat... where is the plan to build income?
December 13, 2017 at 4:42pm December 13 @12:36 - Well stated! All Jason's machismo behavior does is make his wife look worse, not to mention how foolish he looks/sounds.
December 13, 2017 at 12:36am Jason, there's no need to start white knighting on the Internet. This isn't about the “hatred” of anyone but honest criticism of under-performing administrative bloat in times of financial hardship for ASU. I have no special knowledge of Erica Romero's job performance as Scholarship Coordinator in Financial Aid, but what has been alleged is that “Financial Aid/One Stop is replete with people who take unnoticed leave” and providing specific examples of this, to which Erica was then identified. More seriously still: “She is on every board known to man and she is never at work. I believe that being cronies with the higher-ups allows her to take unnoticed leave everyday. Earlier in the year, some students didn't get their scholarship money processed because she was busy trying to be a politician instead of her job.” Notably, Erica Romero was also on the Alamosa School Board when they were sued by a group of community members in 2013 for failing to do their due diligence in assessing the property value of the Polston land. Those bad decisions ended up costing the school district over a quarter million dollars because it turns out that the Healthy Living Park group was able to put up well beyond the appraised value. Erica voted against the better offer and the community lost out as a result. So please keep the personal insults and alpha male braggadocio out of this. Instead, focus on the issues of public policy and job performance where ASU obviously needs major improvements.
December 13, 2017 at 11:58am Hey Alan maybe we can meet up and discuss your hatred of my wife in person? That is if you are truly the non-cowardly grizzly you claim to be. - Jason Romero
December 13, 2017 at 11:40am December 13 @9:04 - That’s Kari Allen - Assistant to the President/Value Added Ag Coordinator, Office of the President
December 13, 2017 at 9:04am Questions: Who is the email exactly from in RE: to “From: Office of the President Subject: Contingency Planning Process"? Who is email@example.com? And in reference to bullet point 6: “The Vice President of each area will discuss evaluations with Contingency Plan Senior Leadership Team” ... who is that VP of each area?
December 12, 2017 at 10:54pm To December 2, 2017 at 9:20am- That would be the hated and disliked PRESIDENT of the Alamosa School Board - Erica Romero. Re: December 6, 2017 at 2:20pm - “The students will know about this site in droves shortly. There are 3 particularly interesting stories involving the track team, and upper admin that will be exposed soon. The corruption involved in it is nothing short of shocking and criminal.” Curious when will this be exposed? Do tell more? Will the doors of ASU be reopened after the New Year in 2018? We are not 5 to 6 million in the hole, we are 8 million in the hole! And now academic departments are being asked to give back money to the university... don’t spend your operations budget unless you absolutely need to, volunteer for a furlough, take an early buy out, graduation rates are down, spring 2018 is DOWN, go out and recruit your students, early retirements, searches for departments are on HOLD, Debbie Chapman left, Coach Rosenbach left, track team in the news, sexual harassment, bullies, liars, loss of students, Rodney is going to be director of facility services, Kurt Carey will continue to patrol, prez will recover from her surgery and dig us deeper into a hole... proud to be an INDIAN... I am not a scared cowardly grizzly! Santa 🎅 please deliver one 🎁 gift! You know what I want. I’ve been a good boy this year! - Alan
December 12, 2017 at 10:41am The following email was sent to ASU employees on Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 5:00 PM: From: Office of the President Subject: Contingency Planning Process Attached you will find a diagram outlining the Proposed Contingency Planning Process. The Process reflects how decisions will be made through our Shared Governance Process. Please review and answer the three questions to help us determine if this is the best process. For clarification, here are the members of each group: Constituent Groups: Faculty Senate Classified Employee Council (CEC) Professional Administration Staff Council (PASC) Contingency Planning Group of 21: Faculty Representatives: Sheryl Abeyta, Rob Benson, Beth Bonnstetter, Ed Crowther, Jess Gagliardi, Curtis Garcia, Yusri Zaro CEC Representatives: Kristina Cook, Peggy Dunn, Jerah Dickson, Andrew (Andres) Herrera, Kendra Marquez, Patrick Roybal, Elaine Wenta PASC Representatives: Rosanna Backen, Andrea Benton-Maestas, Betsy Chacon, Kevin Daniel, Bruce DelTondo, Toni Leach, Shanae Mundee Contingency Plan Senior Leadership Team: Beverlee McClure, Kurt Cary, Lillian Gomez, Heather Heersink, Ken Marquez, Matt Nehring Executive Team: Beverlee McClure, Kurt Cary, Margaret Doell, Karla Hardesty, Heather Heersink, Lori Laske, Chris Lopez, Tammy Lopez, Kenneth Marquez, Larry Mortensen, Matt Nehring, Tracy Rogers, Penny Sanders President’s Cabinet: Beverlee McClure, Mark Manzanares, Alex Lopez, Dianne Lee, Kevin Daniel, Dodie Day, Kristy Duran, Jess Gagliardi, Ed Crowther, Mari Centeno, Renae Haslett, Matt Nehring, Lillian Gomez Board of Trustees: Cleave Simpson, Kathleen Rogers, Pam Bricker, Reeves Brown, Michele Lueck, Wendell Pryor, Arnold Salazar, John Singletary, Randy Wright, Robert Benson, John Owsley Here is the process described: 1. For the Academic area: Data from Institutional Effectiveness and Budget Office is distributed to department chairs for review and consideration. 2. Departments develop the narrative sections of the evaluation – due Feb. 1. 3. Evaluation of programs conducted and ratings assigned by VPAA. This process will include communication/discussion with department chairs and faculty. Completed by Feb. 21. 4. For Student Services and Operations, the same process will be used with data routed to the appropriate department heads. 5. For Athletics, a comprehensive departmental evaluation of athletic programs to determine if athletics is aligned properly with the goals of the University and is serving in the best interest of the University will be conducted. This will include a sport-by-sport review. 6. The Vice President of each area will discuss evaluations with Contingency Plan Senior Leadership Team. 7. The relevant Vice President will make recommendations regarding program prioritization to the Executive Team. 8. The Executive Team makes recommendations to the President’s Cabinet. 9. President’s Cabinet makes recommendations to the Contingency Plan Senior Leadership Team. 10. Additional revenue generating and expense saving proposals will be vetted through the Contingency Plan Group of 21 and will follow the same process as the above. 11. The Contingency Plan Senior Leadership Team makes formal recommendations to the President. 12. The President makes formal recommendations to the Board of Trustees
December 10, 2017 at 11:03am Dec 8 8:16: maybe they offered Ellen Novotny an early out — one that isn’t offered to anyone else yet. - Carol Otto
December 8, 2017 at 8:16am Re: December 8 @7:16am - Really? Ellen is gone? Before the end of the semester? Wow! Maybe Dr Frank(enstein) "NO"votny will be next. They are nothing more than bullies and thieves.
December 8, 2017 at 7:16am What happened to Ellen Novotny? I walked by her office the other day and it's empty and her name plate is gone. Karma? Good riddance!
December 7, 2017 at 11:26pm What does everyone think about the outdoor program? Miltenberger as a director, seems like he is not doing that program justice. It used to be too notch, now not so much.
December 7, 2017 at 8:36pm I've been around long enough to remember when the girls basketball team used their voices. They were able to rid themselves of Storm.
December 7, 2017 at 7:03pm No silence to break on this one, the voices have just been ignored a dozen times: Crowther.
December 7, 2017 at 6:11pm Many people have put their names in places like HR, VP office, prez office, EOE, etc. and they have been ignored or ran off. One ignorant person who refuses to look at the facts posted will not define what guts is. One ignorant person will not define the masses who although disrespected, retaliated against, lied about still come in every day and work their butts off. Right now it's all about making people aware. Names will come but it starts by naming the perpetrators. You want people to have guts then give them a hope, an avenue by which they can speak and find justice. Stop the dastardly act of calling out the victims.
December 7, 2017 at 9:25am Frank Novotny created a hostile workplace and was one of the major determining factors in my decision to leave Adams State University. He routinely used his status as VPAA to force other faculty into keeping quiet about things that needed to be addressed for the success of students at ASU that he did not want to deal with. I know that several other faculty that left ASU indicated that he, as well as Margaret Doell, bullied them into a feeling of helplessness when the faculty brought up valid concerns that either Frank or Margaret did not want to discuss because it would have made more work for them. I can honestly say that both Frank and Margaret created an environment that has resulted in many faculty deciding to leave ASU because they felt their opinions did not matter.
December 7, 2017 at 8:31am Finally someone with guts, good job Danny, maybe others will take your lead and put down their names like you did. Otherwise these posts mean nothing. BTW I think Danny was unjustly let go, seems like he was kicking butt. At least he is not a coward.... - Doreen C.
December 7, 2017 at 5:19am @11:39 pm: women have shared their stories and they've been ignored. The "it's her word against mine" saying is the loophole. The fact that a person can be under investigation twice in a span of less than a year it telling but what's more telling is the fact that people like Ana are saying the previous investigation was never about said person. They're protecting the abusers and the predators.
December 6, 2017 at 11:39pm If ever Adams State were to have a truth and reconciliation movement, this would be it. Major political, entertainment, and news figures are being brought down by average people coming forward. "The Silence Breakers" are named Time's Person of the Year. Women are sharing their #MeToo stories of sexual misconduct. Perhaps it's time to start naming names around ASU. Who have been the predators that create a hostile workplace?
December 6, 2017 at 9:15pm I find it interesting that people like Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein and Matt Lauer (to name a few) can be brought to justice for things they've done years ago but ASU can conduct an investigation on someone and only want recent things. They don't want to bring their cronies to justice. They know all too well about their pervy past, their physically abusive actions toward their employees and want to continue to ignore it. If the aforementioned people that had all the fame, power, money and prestige can be brought to justice why not the nobodies at ASU who continue to abuse their power and debase women?
December 6, 2017 at 4:36pm This is golden. Sounds like Trump: "'While Adams State has made some progress toward our goals, we do still have a substantial amount of work to do,' said President McClure." WHY? Why have you, the Board, and upper administration gotten so little done over the past years? The press release then laughingly lists some weak measures or measures that should have been taken years ago. In other words, they don't know what to do. And then the press release slips in the real message at the very end: "The Adams State Board of Trustees also authorized the administration to prepare a contingency plan to 'right-size' the campus". This is the real message, the only thing they really know how to do, get rid of people. Throw up their hands in despair and try to keep the doors open long enough to collect their salaries until they can find new jobs. While watching ASU sink.
December 6, 2017 at 4:23pm Right on Danny! You did a great job at ASU. People in the know know your being banned from campus had absolutely nothing to do with the job you were doing. Total bullshit to imply otherwise.
December 6, 2017 at 2:20pm The students will know about this site in droves shortly. There are 3 particularly interesting stories involving the track team, and upper admin that will be exposed soon. The corruption involved in it is nothing short of shocking and criminal. ---- Editor's Reply: Please have any interested individuals contact us with more information.
December 6, 2017 at 2:03pm During the years 2011-2015, I performed my job duties at or above the defined expectations, including: - Developing and teaching 10 media production courses that had never previously been offered at ASU - Collaborating with ASU Athletics, Art, Theatre, Sociology, and History departments to support interdisciplinary coursework, as well as college readiness training for SLV high school students - Establishing and serving as advisor for the Grizzly Video Productions student organization - Receiving student evals of between 4.65 – 4.94, above the department-wide average - Receiving all “Meritorious” evaluations from my department chair - Producing over 100 videos for ASU Creative Relations – featuring Student Scholar Days, department promotional spots, advertising campaigns, construction updates, and campus messages from the president's office - Co-founding the Southern Colorado Film Festival and supporting its annual programming - Volunteering for service events like Late Night Breakfast and ASU Open House functions I lived and breathed Adams State. Almost all of these duties were performed while working as an adjunct instructor and independent contractor – without health insurance coverage, without an office, and often with delayed paychecks. But then again, I met many other colleagues who were themselves doing a great deal above and beyond their job duties, as well. And they were also being compensated well below their peer position averages. Many of them are now making significantly more money in similar positions elsewhere. One of the hallmarks of a dysfunctional institution is the devaluing of the laborers who make such a system possible. Campus morale surveys, salary data, and staff turnover rates certainly suggest Adams State suffers from these problems. - Danny Ledonne
December 6, 2017 at 12:33pm Watching Adams is a site built by a person who wasn’t doing there job, got let go and now is providing other people who suck at their job to complain about people who are good at their job. You professors that post on this site are a disgrace, be better teachers and not “ no it alls”
December 6, 2017 at 6:25am Keyboard warriors? I'm sorry but I won't fall for such tactics, Doreen. If that is your real name. Fear has nothing to do with anonymity. Rather, we speak for the collective who actually are fearful. We who post don't just speak for self. How many people have come forward without the shroud of anonymity only to be ignored or worse - retaliated against? It's worse than what's being said and people are now having to write up exactly what they do at ASU, so what does that tell you?
December 5, 2017 at 8:16pm Doing a fine job? By what criteria? Increased enrollment? No! Increased gradation rates? No! Increased morale? No! Increased reputation? No! Increased income? No! Improved status as a university? No! I understand the reflex to support your employer and be a good corporate citizen, but we are an institution of higher learning where we are supposed to use our brains, and employ our faculties of critical thinking. That means looking at the numbers and coming to inevitable conclusions. And using these simple arithmetic tools, we can rightly say that McClure is not doing a fine job. She simply is not, period, no matter how much you might want her to succeed. And by the way, between you and me, there is no Santa Claus. Nor, unfortunately, is there a Termination Clause. Bev gets to keep you in Fantasyland for another year.
December 5, 2017 at 8:02pm Oh my god. "Dec 1, 7.27am" got it absolutely right! McClure and the BoT have no idea how to save ASU. Dated 4-12-17 under the banner "Adams State Works to Grow Revenue, Trim Costs," they just admitted in Trump-like idiot fashion that they have no idea about how to recover ASU's fortunes. The blurb starts with Bev's robot-language that no real human would use by saying: "We continue to strive to make Adams State University financially strong, while also meeting the needs of our historically underserved student population," said Adams State President Beverlee J. McClure. "We are committed to improving our financial health while not losing sight of our role and mission as a designated Hispanic Serving Institution. Adams State is vital to its population and the economy of rural Colorado." Danger, Will Robinson, danger! My batteries are low. But the real substance - the .357 magnum shot to the foot - is this; that ASU intends "....identifying and implementing new student recruitment and retention strategies..." So let's get this straight. The BoT has sat on its hands for nearly a decade watching as ASU's student recruitment and retention has steadily nose-dived. Yet it is only now "identifying and implementing new... strategies." And McClure, whose remuneration and benefits package has cost the university nearly a half-million dollars since her appointment two years ago, is only now just getting to think about "identifying and implementing new student recruitment and retention strategies..." Bev and BoT, what have you been doing for the last two years?
December 5, 2017 at 1:42pm 3-5 million in debt is a fine job? Laying people off because she can't do what she claimed she could do? I'm wondering which of the admins are now on here encouraging people to quit under phony names. That'll make their jobs easier when it comes time to lay people off because the University has been mismanaged for years. The ones to go are not the ones responsible for this mess. In fact, the ones who are responsible will probably get a raise after the mass head chopping that's coming down the pipes. But yes, I'd love to hear how she's doing a fine job. What do you know that we don't? I'll continue my anonymity, not due to cowardice on my end, but for to the cowardice that the administration portrays. If their response to any complaint is to harass and intimidate the person into quitting, than I don't see how protecting your employment is cowardly. It's cowardly to retaliate, lie, defame, or harass a person for a legitimate concern. Sounds like a dictatorship would suit "doreen" just fine.
December 5, 2017 at 8:19am I support Adams State, McClure is doing a fine job and all you disgruntled employees need to go to elsewhere if you can’t support our fine institution! Adams State will endure....... your negativity will only bring negativity to your life , but Merry Christmas anyway
December 5, 2017 at 7:56am Doreen, I admire your pluck. Now, on behalf of all these chicken-shit anonymous whiners, go see Dr McClure and tell her that enrollment continues to fall, retention of staff and students continues to fall, ASU's status as a university (already among the lowest in the US) continues to fall, graduation rates continue to fall, and employee morale continues to fall, Then you tell her all your ideas for making things better. See how that goes for you. Go girrrrl!!!
December 4, 2017 at 10:25pm What has become of the tree that was/is going to save us all? Who is Doreen Cordova? Debbie Chapman is leaving and the great Coach Rosy is right behind her. The Director of Admissions search was a joke, but at least they didn't settle for the only game in town. If Admissions doesn't have a full time Director, the blind will continue to lead the blind, right down the drain! Application numbers for 2018 & 2019 are already down. Problems problems everywhere! All of these vacancies should be saving some money, but at what cost? Are there any hot coals left? Who will light the fire Adams State so desperately needs? Where is the sense of urgency? Mesa State Alamosa? President Foster! Simply put, there are no solutions on the horizon. This year's money problems have nothing on next year's. Contingency plan(s) won't help. You (McClure!!!) have to learn to work WITH what you have. Unless failure is what you are seeking? Stop working against the crazy/desperate, capable few left in Adams States corner.
December 4, 2017 at 2:13pm Perhaps you all should quit being a coward and put your names in these posts..... typical of keyboard warriors, talk tough, usually grammar police because they have nothing relevant to say....... - Doreen Cordova
December 4, 2017 at 1:37pm Re December 4 @ 10:46. Perhaps one should practice what one preaches. And you should learn the appropriate use of there, their, and they're.
December 4, 2017 at 10:46am This website is not beneficial for anyone... It is used to gripe and complain about an institution that is continuing to help young and old attend and finish college... The haters on here have nothing else to do other than watch others rather than doing there own job... Get a life.
December 3, 2017 at 9:22pm @Dec. 2, 9:20am: Financial Aid/One Stop is replete with people who take unnoticed leave. It's very easy too when the supervisor is across campus. They go to unnecessary trainings, appointments of every kind and twice a month or more a back goes out or some kind of maintenance man has to stop by their house and only they can go home for such visits. Oh and don't forget they also have to leave when a package arrives at their front door whether it's Christmas or not.
December 2, 2017 at 9:20am How is it that one paper pusher from financial aid is able to be everywhere around town throughout the day? She is on every board known to man and she is never at work. I believe that being cronies with the higher-ups allows her to take unnoticed leave everyday. Earlier in the year, some students didn't get their scholarship money processed because she was busy trying to be a politician instead of her job.
December 1, 2017 at 7:27am It seems that Plan B - the contingency plan, "lower the lifeboats" - is actually Plan A. It is clear that McClure and the BoT don't know what to do. Why is Tracy not explaining how we are going to build up enrollment, prevent staff and student defection, increase graduation rates, bring in the money that McClure promised she would "cos I'm a "business woman", and improve morale? Why? Because there isn't a Plan A.
December 1, 2017 at 2:40am How can Maxine afford to be so mean?
November 30, 2017 at 9:48pm Ding-dong! How can some of the lowest paid faculty and staff in all of American higher education afford to take unpaid days off? Then again, Tracy makes $86,652 per year so maybe this seems like a good idea to her.
November 30, 2017 at 8:05pm Are these emails from Tracy for real? Is ASU actually this desperate? If so, I would strongly advise people to take her up there on the volunteer furloughs so that you have a day off each week to begin looking for other jobs. These emails are a thermometer reading for how bad things are in the boiler room. I assure you, this is the a sign of an institution on the verge of collapse. Don’t wait.
November 30, 2017 at 6:20pm Beverlee McClure should show some leadership on this issue and voluntarily furlough herself until her contract ends. She would save the university more money than any other employee and campus morale would instantly improve! The HLC might appreciate that, as well, given her antagonism towards them.
November 30, 2017 at 5:13pm You all know what comes after the VOLUNTARY options, right? Starts with INV...
November 30, 2017 at 2:30pm The following email was sent to ASU employees on November 30, 2017 at 1:34pm: Subject: Interested in VOLUNTARY furlough? Good afternoon, As we continue to engage in the contingency planning process, one suggestion that has come up in several campus forums is the use of furloughs, which would allow us to reduce salary expense in this fiscal year. A furlough is a temporary reduction in your salary in exchange for unpaid time off. We are exploring the cost savings of offering voluntary furloughs that could be taken between now and June 30, 2018. If you have any interest in taking a day or two (or more) off in exchange for a reduction in pay let me know and we can discuss the possibilities. I can be reached by e-mail at firstname.lastname@example.org or at 587-7990. Tracy
November 29, 2017 at 9:18pm @9:00 pm: I sure hope so too. Stop the despotism in Facilities Services because Bev, Kurt, HR and Ana sure as heck won't!
November 29, 2017 at 9:00pm I sure hope the HLC reads Watching Adams.
November 29, 2017 at 6:44pm While I'm appalled and dismayed to read about all the crookedness, lechery and beguilement going on in Facilities particularly from one person I tremble at the thought of how the custodial staff will be retaliated against due to the recent posts. Word around campus is there's already fingers pointed at a few custodians the supervisors think are sending them. Here's a little news flash for you. You honestly think the custodians are the only people who know what's going on in that department? The whole campus and the community at large know what's going on so before there's fingers pointed at an already browbeaten custodial staff in search of whom to punish know there are more of us in the know who are speaking out and this is just the first place we are going to in coming forward with the truth.
November 29, 2017 at 6:51am With Kurt Cary assuming all of Scott's former duties, you can be sure Rodney is the proxy Director of Facilities Services. People once highly esteemed are losing credibility standing in support of Rodney. Even their inaction is a strong stand support for Rodney.
November 28, 2017 at 9:18pm Gee, I wonder how long it will be before Rodney is appointed Director of Facility Services.
November 28, 2017 at 8:14pm How can Rodney cause so much trouble when he spends most of his time in Shannon's office? But seriously, who is going to come forward from his staff? Who will speak up? Even former employees are afraid to speak out against him out of fear that his connections with their current employers will be an avenue for him to retaliate.
November 28, 2017 at 5:05am It's not surprising to read of Scott's departure. No matter what the official statement is, never forget that anybody who opposes Rodney suffers the same fate. He does his homework, people. He keeps his employees under his thumb and when held accountable by his immediate supervisor, he starts filing grievances against them and ends up not having to report to them. Kurt Cary and Ana are basically getting paid to continue to ignore the problem Rodney has been for almost 20 years. Look how many people they ignore when they come forward and "ignore" is the best case scenario for anybody speaking out against Rodney. Mark my words: there will be changes in the custodial department and Rodney's reign of terror will continue and worsen. Every time he gets in "trouble", he ends up getting promoted. Let's see if the trend continues...
November 27, 2017 at 11:23am Effective December 15, 2017 Scott Travis will no longer be Director of Facilities Services. Number the brave among you...
November 27, 2017 at 9:54am The following email was sent to ASU classified employees on November 27, 2017 at 8:02am: Subject: Interested in Voluntary Separation Incentive Plan? Certified Classified Employees, I hope you had a great break. I sent the following message just before break and wanted to remind anyone who MIGHT be interested in a VSIP (or just want more information) to let me know and I'll add your name to the list of people to keep in the loop. If you have interest or have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me at 7990 or email@example.com. Tracy
November 26, 2017 at 6:56am How is it that a certain employee can have countless complaints against them for the last umpteen years and nothing happen? Yet when a new investigation is being done on them the people being called in to speak are told speak up because now is the time for something to be done or remain silent and never complain to EOE, etc. again and deal with it. Firstly, how has the problem remained for so long? Also, how is it all up to the people all of a sudden when people like Ana, etc. are the ones who get paid a pretty penny to make such decisions? I'm not sure if it's Ana's decision but she still has to be the one to submit her findings. All of a sudden the people who have the job titles and all the pay want to play Pontius Pilate and wash their hands while they rile up the workers?
November 23, 2017 at 8:38am I live out a way from Alamosa and not totally familiar with everything. Specifically all the posts about Facilities Services, people named Rodney, Ana, and and Shannon. I know about Tracy (ugh). What is the scandal?
November 22, 2017 at 11:50pm This Thanksgiving, I am thankful to have gotten out of ASU before wave after wave of administration-caused problems compounded by a retaliatory workplace. But those turkeys in Richardson Hall should not be pardoned.
November 21, 2017 at 12:06pm @5:02 - I will see your $50 & throw in another $150!!!
November 21, 2017 at 5:23am I also want to know who the gentleman is that's always hanging around Scott. I hear he's some consultant for Facilities Services and that he gets paid a pretty good amount. Is a consultant necessary especially in these financially dire times? Facilities is a place ASU needs to look at more closely and see there's too many supervisors. When custodial is a few people short the supervisors continue to spread them thin instead of helping them out. It's been that way since the current regime took over. Also, isn't grounds a four-man crew? Then why is there always only three of them working to get things cleaned up around campus? Where's the supervisor to make sure everyone is working? A big thank you to custodial and grounds for all that you do to keep our campus clean and safe!
November 20, 2017 at 6:39am When you have Shannon sitting next to Ana at basketball games, people in Facilities taking Ana out to lunch and the whole lot of them having drinks together I don't know what anyone asked to contribute to Ana's investigation of FS can really say of any value that could go against Rodney that she won't go back and tell him. Then he'll obviously retaliate within the parameters of his job and call is a managerial decision.
November 19, 2017 at 5:02pm @4:39pm - We could start an online fundraiser to pay McClure to voluntarily resign! I would contribute $50.
November 19, 2017 at 4:39pm Question: Did Tracy send the voluntary severance incentive plan email to McClure? She's the obvious place to start. ASU could save a lot of money and curb the damage she continues to do.
November 19, 2017 at 1:05pm Not to fear, McClure is a prodigy! Surely her prodigal mind will save ASU! Not convinced? Not to worry, I doubt anyone in the state of Colorado buys into this either. Must be an exercise in self-advertising as McClure continues to find a way to secure her own rescue boat. Of course, after being at the helm this long, I can't imagine anyone expressing any interest in saving our dear leader. Presidential Prodigies - A new breed of campus leader
November 17, 2017 at 7:17pm Why would ASU Horrible Relations send an email to all Classified employees openly inviting them to get paid a bonus to retire or resign? And what happens if not enough "volunteers" step forward to walk the plank for a loaf of bread? This is the Adams State Hunger Games.
November 17, 2017 at 3:11pm To 11/16/17 @ 8:10 am- Do you have any proof that Tracy is not sleeping with the enemy, Bev McClure? We know that Rodney is sleeping with Shannon, hence, nothing is going to be done to him. Keep filing complaints on Rodney, they will only go by the wayside. Ana is corrupt as Satan! And Tracy is probably sleeping with McClure! Rodney + Shannon + Ana + Tracy + McClure= corruption... deceit... lies... adultery... Does one believe that ASU is going to pay out a reputable amount to classified employees for early retirement or separation? I bet they have ocean front property too! But one can read in between the lines, we are financially doomed!
November 17, 2017 at 8:53am How does the snake still have a job? That's easy, when you're as corrupt as the people running this campus, you need someone who has no morals, no integrity, and no dignity to do all the dirty work. Tracy is the perfect person for that job, and is really a reflection of the administrations true self. At-will employees will be preferred to be kept in place of classified because the snake knows they can legally be taken advantage of. They will be forced to work longer hours and take on additional duties without a say in the matter and without reimbursement. They can also have their pay cut for no reason and ultimately become the slaves that Tracy has longed for ever since she heard slavery was a real thing.
November 16, 2017 at 8:10pm Re: November 16 @ 5:16 - Exempt employees will simply have their positions eliminated and IF you're lucky a thank you for your service and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Of course, the snake Rogers won't be in that boat. What DOES she have on people to keep herself employed? Especially this administration? I mean it's not like she's in bed with McClure like she was with Svaldi and Novotny...?
November 16, 2017 at 5:27pm Re: November 16 @ 12:41 - Laughable! As if anyone in their right mind would trust Tracy Rogers, regardless of who the president is. Anyone who doesn't know the snake she is has their head in the sand.
November 16, 2017 at 5:16pm Great, just great! VSIP for classified! What about those of us who are exempt? Not all exempt employees make a great deal of money or have been around forever milking the system. We don't have a council guiding us, no union protection. What the hell are we supposed to do?
November 16, 2017 at 3:41pm Thank you, Tracy. It’s all clear now. Apparently the HLC report is really moot. The straits are indeed dire and it is every man, woman and child (student) for themselves. You, your cronies, and let’s not forget the bored (sic), have mismanaged ASU into the ground.
November 16, 2017 at 2:22pm Another investigation involving Facilities Services? What now? Why does Facilities keep getting treated as a fringe department that gets ignored when there's obviously some serious things going on?
November 16, 2017 at 12:41pm The following email was sent to ASU classified employees on November 16, 2017 at 9:52am: Subject: Interested in Voluntary Separation Incentive Plan? Dear Certified Classified Employee: As part of the ongoing contingency planning process we would like to explore the feasibility of a voluntary Separation Incentive Plan (VSIP). Offering a VSIP allows us to provide a monetary incentive to those considering retiring or otherwise separating from the institution, resulting in base salary savings and increased flexibility for the institution. We are only gauging interest at this time and may or may not move forward with offering an incentive depending on the financial feasibility of doing so. If you have any interest in participating or learning more, please let me know by close of business on November 29th. Indicating interest does not obligate you in any way; it simply provides us with a way to gauge interest. I will not share this information in any manner except as necessary to evaluate the effectiveness of utilizing a plan. If you have interest or have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me at 7990 or firstname.lastname@example.org. Tracy
November 15, 2017 at 11:30am I agree with 7:51 am: The letter from McClure is hardly satisfying. The line: "For this process, it is our understanding that the report will only be shared with a few members of the administration and will not be widely circulated." Is a cop out. Of course, HLC is not widely circulating this report. That's not their job! It is the job of university administration to circulate it and inform the campus and wider community. Stop spewing about the supposed ASU pillar of transparency if you're not able to lean on it - much less stand on it.
November 15, 2017 at 7:51am Current employees of ASU, I would ask you to take a minute to carefully consider what your president and self-appointed CEO, Beverlee McClure, is asking us to do. In not so uncertain terms, she is asking us to work hard to save the university while the HLC's decisions looms. However, although McClure and upper administration will have the opportunity to read the HLC's report, and through it gain valuable insight into the future stability of the university, we will not know our institution's fate until next July. Imagine how difficult it will be to secure a new job before August 2018, especially if our previous employer is no longer an accredited institution! McClure & CO have time and again raved about their transparency and their willingness to opening discuss the institution's wellbeing with anyone and everyone. I would encourage everyone to remind her of such promises. As employees, we have the right to know what the HLC thinks about our institution, and of course, for our own future's sake, we need to know as soon as possible. We have children and families that depend on our incomes! Knowing earlier rather than later about the future of the insitution is particularly important on the side of faculty, for as we all know, academic searches are long, drawn out processes that take months on end to sort out. Most faculty members at ASU that have achieved tenure status previously applied to hundreds of jobs before they landed their current position. Imagine how difficult it will be, after being associated in name with ASU, to land another tenure track job? I know most people are already looking for jobs outside of ASU, but I get the sense that if you're not, now would be a good time to start working evenings and weekends on applications before it's too late. Regardless, we have a right to know how the HLC visit went, and as soon as possible, what the report indicates. McClure & CO should hold open houses to discuss these matters ASAP. In addition to our right to know more as employees, the whole community has a right to know about the institution's future. Imagine the negative economic impact that losing accreditation would have on the SLV? How many families depend on income from the university? How many restaurants and businesses depend on a steady flow of students and their families to keep things afloat? And what will be of all our students who are matriculating courses at ASU? What are they to do? Should they transfer? Should they stay? Should they both investing time and energy into ASU? They too need to know. We need to demand transparency. We need more than hollow e-mails from Richardson hall. We need hard evidence to demonstrate that our administration has us on the right path because everything that's currently on the table indicates that we are not. Perhaps this website can run a poll on the percentage of employees at ASU who would prefer to see the results of the HLC audit as soon as they are available. And then, once the results are in, we could send them over to McClure & CO so they have a genuine sense of our urgency. Or perhaps we could print up the results and post them around campus just in case McClure fails to read our e-mails, as her tendency has been in the past.
November 14, 2017 at 10:04pm Is Adams State losing its university status?
November 14, 2017 at 8:33pm Want to expose police corruption? Don't leak documents to the media – just tell the sheriff! Want to reveal a coach abusing their players? Don't blow the whistle to referees – just tell the team owner! Want to resolve a harassment dispute from a colleague or boss? Don't file a lawsuit or make an EEOC complaint – just go to the company's HR! Want to reform a university engaged in systemic abuse, corruption, and fraud? Don't alert the press, accreditors, or regulators – just politely address the Board of Trustees. Yes, it will all work out just fine – for the entrenched interests, that is. For the aggrieved victim, it will be a surefire way to put target on their back. Guaranteed Tuition? How about Guaranteed Retaliation? Just ask the folks who already tried following “the proper channels” at ASU in the past few years... And what happened to them? Truth to Power 101: “When you try to handle a problem internally within a broken system, don't expect justice to be served in the outcome.” That's a lesson that ASU teaches its students and employees incredibly well.
November 14, 2017 at 8:20pm It is upsetting to learn that the outcome of the visit won't be known until July at the earliest. I'm also irritated to read that only select administration will see the initial report....um WTF so much for transparency!
November 14, 2017 at 3:30pm The following message was sent to the ASU campus on Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 1:28 PM: Please see the following message from President McClure: Thank you for all your hard work and your participation in the HLC visit. Today we had our exit interview and the visiting team will now begin work on their report. As expected, we do not know their recommendations. Here are the next steps: We will receive a draft report from the visiting team in mid-December. We will review this report and can only correct “errors of fact.” For this process, it is our understanding that the report will only be shared with a few members of the administration and will not be widely circulated. We will have 30- days to conduct this review and submit any corrections to HLC. The final report will be sent to us in late January or early February. In the spring (dates to be determined), the chair of our HLC Visiting Team and I will appear before HLC’s Institutional Action Council (IAC) for a hearing on our probation status. This hearing will take place in Chicago. The IAC will review the visiting team’s report and our presentation to make a final recommendation to the HLC Board. The HLC board will vote on our status for the removal of probation and granting of our full accreditation in their June 26-28 meeting. It will not be until after this meeting that we will know our status. Again, thank you all for your hard work.
November 13, 2017 at 7:42pm I am going to assume that the November 13, 2017 at 1:30pm commentator means well. They are trying to be helpful. They are being thoughtful and providing a thorough account of their point of view. But they're also enabling bullies and a workplace culture of retaliation. The idea that we simply need to have more compassion for someone like Bill Mansheim or Frank Novotny or Beverlee McClure or Ed Crowther because they may have personal problems completely abdicates their responsibility for making the lives of many ASU employees more stressful, needlessly difficult, and often times miserable. There has been a documented pattern of willful lying, intimidation, retaliation, and furthering a hostile workplace by a number of past and current ASU administrators and senior faculty. This website is replete with examples. So please, @1:30pm, take your advice and apply it to the people who are causing faculty and staff to flee ASU in droves. These bullies in power are setting the tone on this campus and they are creating the conditions the rest of ASU's employees (and students) must endure. This website is a response to that culture, which existed for many years prior under Dr. Svaldi and has continued (and worsened) since Dr. McClure's hostile takeover.
November 13, 2017 at 7:19pm I could be wrong, but the last two posts sound like they are coming straight from upper admin. At the very least they originate from the admin apologist and sycophant fan club, posted with full admin blessings. It's all so very reminiscent of Russian meddling in US social media. Bonus points to you for being so trendy! But really - we should report complaints to the Bored of Trustees first? You completely blew your cover with such an absurd recommendation. You need to work more on your stealth tactics. Go hang with some Russian trolls for a while. I see this as a good sign. It means the creation of the reporting "tree" has made them nervous. As it should. A few thoughts about the tree: 1. If you are concerned about others being able to keep a secret (understandable), just ask the editor of WA to keep your identity from others. You can share your story, in the company of others, yet without ever knowing who those others are. You can set the terms of disclosure. You control your story. Right, Danny? The idea is to end their ability to isolate us while fully maintaining our individual safety. 2. I don't think reports need to be limited to HR abuses. We all know the mistreatment of employees extends well beyond that office. We all know that HR is often indirectly behind other abuses. They coach admin in tried and true techniques for how to silence us and disappear us. 3. Reporting on systemic abuses does not put ASU at risk. Don't fall for this appeal. It's just another classic tactic of propagandists throughout history. ASU doesn't stand a chance unless all the ugliness is thoroughly rooted out and exposed. Truth is the only way forward.
November 13, 2017 at 3:31pm First of all, I have no desire to be a part of this Support Tree, if for no other reason than I cannot keep a secret to save my life. That being said, I have some concerns about the plan of going to the wider media that has been proposed here. If 9 News ran a story about corruption at our University, it is going to damage the institution. At least for the short term, and probably long term, effect on enrollments at the very least. Maybe it will be worth it in the long run to prevent greater harm to the institution down the road, maybe not, time will tell. For that reason, any accusation brought to the media need to be backed up by evidence that is above reproach, otherwise the damage done will be for nothing and the civil litigation that would be sure to follow any unsubstantiated claims against McClure is going to hurt any accusers personally as well. I'd also recommend giving a copy to the board and any other interested parties before giving it the the news, so that they can have time to prepare to refute any of the accusations if possible. It's not the fun way to do it, but I believe it is the right way.
November 13, 2017 at 1:30pm Re October 22, 2017 at 11:46am - Perhaps I can assist in answering your questions; "I am wondering why there is a need for a "Director of Clery compliance"?" - The DOE program review did call out issues specific to Clery Compliance. All but one of those issues/findings occurred in the 2013 calendar year and prior, and the other had to do with an oversight regarding off-campus teaching locations - 5 out of 6 of these locations have since been found to be inactive beyond 2 years and have been reported to and accepted by the HLC as such. While each of these is absolutely an important concern, ASU's compliance with Clery Act regulations has improved tremendously since 2013. "Considering many other, much larger institutions, do not staff a position like this, is this just another case of fluff at ASU?" Yes, many institutions, do not currently employ a full-time Clery Officer, however, please keep in mind that up until the Clery position at ASU was created in 2015, no one person was responsible for overseeing ASU's compliance with Clery, which meant several important aspects of the Act were mistakenly overlooked, and compliance often fell on the shoulders of employees who had not been adequately trained, and whose primary functions did not include Clery responsibilities but took it upon themselves to try to do as much as they could on top of their normal full-time duties. At that time, and earlier, there was little awareness of it, however, with the increase of Clery-related high-profile cases in the media over the last few years, as well as more frequent increases in Clery fines and audits, the University made a decision to create the position, though it had been lucky in years past to have not been audited before now. Due to these rapid increases & changes, many institutions, like ASU, are continuing to create or designate Clery-specific offices or positions to keep up with the numerous and extensive requirements and take those requirements very seriously. For example, in the first 22 years of enforcement, the Department of Ed issued no more than three fines in a single year; in 2013 the Department imposed a record high eight fines, ranging from $82,500 to $280,000 and totaling $1,455,000. Between 2014-2016, institutions were fined a total of $3,285,000 while the number of audits increased significantly as well. Individual fines were originally $25,000 per violation but have increased periodically from $25,000 to $27,500, and from $35,000 $53,907 just within the last year. This continues to be expected to increase in the future to as high as $150,000 or even 1% of the institutional budget, per violation. One challenge ASU faces is that the Clery act is dynamic and is amended frequently, making it extremely difficult for the university to keep up with these, sometimes very technical, requirements. I do not get on this site often, but every time I do, the amount of negativity and hate I see in these comments is mind-blowing. Which is why I felt it might be helpful to answer a few questions so that instead of wondering, or jumping to conclusions (which I myself am guilty of occasionally) those on this site could form better informed opinions. While I completely understand the need to voice these opinions and fight for equality and better treatment, it seems to me that a lot of these comments boil down to what I consider "blind anger/hate". Being upset about a person or situation not knowing them or the entire background directly or fully. We sometimes become biased because of our own experiences, and it becomes easy to hear one side of a story & feel immediate frustration before hearing all sides or taking into consideration that there may be more to the situation that what we are aware of. Many of the issues on this site are absolutely legitimate concerns, and I in no way am saying that any should be quiet or stop, I just feel there are more kind and intelligent ways to go about questioning or dealing with a lot them. And like we learned as kids, two wrongs don't make a right. Being frustrated about issues at this university, (all very serious and important), does not excuse us from having compassion for other human beings on this earth. I do not personally know a lot of the people on this campus, what their own personal struggles are, what their job descriptions entail specifically, and how busy they actually are. So, while it may be easy to create a list of people who some feel don't do their jobs correctly, or criticize a person's drinking habits, or another's leadership, or another's willingness to act on a grievance or complaint, I implore those of you making these judgments to stop & take a look in the mirror; look at how good a job you are doing as a human being. Think about yourself and these people. Think about what else they may be dealing with in their jobs and lives and the struggles you yourself have dealt with. Consider instead what you actually know about the entire situation and then, please just question and talk about these issues without all the name calling and hurtful jabs. No institution is perfect, and ours is far from it, but we also have a ton of amazing, kind and helpful people working here too, doing really good jobs and making differences in the lives of our students and those around them.
November 8, 2017 at 10:09pm Thank you editor for making the tree possible. I am the one who volunteered to be the first. I have already had contact with the second. We will chat in a couple of days about strategy for this group which includes SAFETY! More info about process will follow. But to be clear, we will vet everyone closely, thoroughly, and rigorously. If someone "in the tree" can't vouch for an individual, then that person will have to be on hold until someone can. Safety is paramount. And yes, the editor is correct DO NOT use your Adams account. And DO NOT use your work computers, even with a personal email account. Everyone is being monitored. This dates back to at least two years when one computing services employee "accidentally" found something against a former employee. The safest way is to use your home computer, a public computer like at a library or your cellular service (no Internet). The second in the tree and I will post more after we figure out what is the safest and most effective way to move forward. Ok everyone... it's time to take back our university: that starts by exposing those who need to be exposed. I haven't been this happy about a project for a long time!
November 8, 2017 at 8:45pm Perhaps a very public outing, one that could include Ruth Heide or better yet 9WantstoKnow, could be arranged? I've been wondering when Adams State and McClure will make their television debut! She is always ready for her close-up. Developing Story or Breaking News? Have they been contacted by anyone? Maybe it's time!
November 8, 2017 at 8:39pm I second not using the @adams.edu account for such purposes. The term "monitor" goes far beyond just being a term for computer hardware.
November 8, 2017 at 8:16pm Bravo, let the tree begin! Enough is enough. Thanks Danny.
November 8, 2017 at 7:48pm Re: November 8 @ 7:39pm - I have often thought the very same thing you have articulated so well. But, as you point out, how do we find out who we are? Is there someone who could start an underground contact tree, of sorts? A way to vet the serious? Perhaps the editor of this very website? I would be willing to be the first to reach out to the second, and so on... ---- Editor's Reply: If people contact us individually and indicate that they wish to establish a confidential contact tree, we can arrange that. Please include a name and email address. I strongly recommend not using an Adams.edu email account for any such correspondence.
November 8, 2017 at 7:39pm I've been following the recent line of comments with great interest. There are clearly many of us who have suffered both ill treatment and illegal treatment at the hands of HR and their RH co-conspirators. But most of us remain anonymous, if not silent. This is exactly what they count on. They isolate us, they leverage their petty power, they play to our vulnerabilities, they make us feel that we are alone and have no recourse. This is what has allowed the Weinsteins of the world to cause so much suffering for so many years. It doesn't mean that we are responsible for our situations. We are the victims of a thoroughly malignant organization that has gotten away with too much for too long. The lesson in recent national headlines is that there is power in numbers. There is power in finding a way to come forward as a group. I suspect that we collectively have a class action case in the making. The challenge, though, lies in discovering who we all are and finding some way to connect with each other. Contacting the state HR officer individually and independently is an option but I suspect that many, myself included, would not feel safe doing so. Is there another way?
November 8, 2017 at 1:01pm It appears that the grievances need to be escalated to the state level as soon as possible! Hostile work environments, fraternization and substantial whistle-blower concerns. Chief Human Resources Officer: Kim Burgess Executive Assistant: Charlene Wisher-Howard 303-866-4920 Someone needs to take the next step, that is, if the accusations are sincere and with merit?
November 8, 2017 at 12:45pm Few know how deep cronyism runs at ASU, but for those of us that has seen it up close and personal, it’s absolutely mind-boggling. Richardson hall was plagued by nepotism and cronyism long before McClure showed up. She hasn’t helped the situation but she certainly didn’t create it, either. Take HR, for example. HR’s issues with neutrality began the day Svaldi chose to hire a young woman fresh out of law school with who he had a relationship with when he was a professor and she was working on her undergrad degree. This is a woman who doodles her way through meetings and proudly brags about doodling her way through law school, which she claims to have despised. Clearly, she wasn't the most qualified person for the job, but now that she’s in it, and she knows what she knows, she’s untouchable. Of course, HR’s neutrality suffered even more when the director decided to begin a second relationship with the then-VPAA at ASU. Tracy probably has more dirt on past and present administration than anyone in the valley. Unfortunately, she’s absolutely terrible at her job.
November 8, 2017 at 8:08am HR & Ana, what a bunch of pathetic individuals who are employed at ASU. File a grievance? File a complaint? Are you kidding me, they don’t even know the rules and how they apply to all employees on campus. The director is here to see her courted love with Novotny. Coffee anyone? The assistant director is in matrimonial bliss with Rodney. The admin used to be best friends and babysit her children. And Ana, the county judge’s wife! See the problem, see the cycle. As anyone who has dealt with these women, they are useless and do not support any employee that is not in their high society world, nor support anyone who doesn’t look like them. And how the HR women criticize others on campus. Get off the phone with the admin to find out how unethical they are... how they make fun or roll their eyes when you walk out of the office or hang up the phone. Send an email to one of them, you might get a response back within two weeks... To find out the director has been gone or out of the office. Disgusting! They have no class, no morals, no ethics, not supporting, do not help with reallocations, promotions, nothing! Coffee at the SUB, anyone?
November 8, 2017 at 6:20am 4:03pm is right on the money. HR and Ana G. won't do anything to help you. The Board doesn't care. The only way to break the cycle is to get external help. It's been done successfully before.
November 7, 2017 at 4:03pm ASU Horrible Relations has functioned as a place to identify “problem employees” and target them for ongoing bullying until they "resign", are non-renewed, or are fired. The Office of Equal Oppression works closely with Horrible Relations to ensure grievances go nowhere and the employee feels too defeated to persist. The Mean Girls Administration will support Horrible Relations and the Office of Equal Oppression whenever possible. And the Bored of Trustees doesn't want to hear about any of this and will just defer employees back to Horrible Relations, the Office of Equal Oppression, and the Mean Girls Administration. Want to break the cycle? You'll have to hire a public sector labor attorney and/or file complaints with state and federal employment offices. Or alert the media. External pressure is the only language ASU's cabal of retaliation understands.
November 7, 2017 at 1:38pm Wow! Not sure what's going on there. I do not support or condone any physical harm to anyone in HR or on the Adams State campus. However. I have had many experiences where they were difficult with almost any situation that I brought to their attention. One being my job description and work duties. Also, my complaints regarding racial discrimination. Most importantly I felt like they were completely unsupportive towards my request for family medical leave during my 8 surgeries on my lower back. I had to come in to the office constantly to show documents from my doctor, and during this time I had a draining tube connected to my lower back with a machine. Again I do not support any harm to anyone in HR my hope is that Adams State looks at these issues with severity, and that everyone feels welcomed and safe. - Meagan Smith
November 7, 2017 at 12:04pm File a grievance with whom? Ana? You think any good would come of that? Hasn't worked for anyone else except in McClure's favor.
November 7, 2017 at 9:59am If the HR rumors are true, perhaps someone should file a grievance: creating a hostile work environment?
November 7, 2017 at 7:48am I suspect one reason HR is contemplating calling the police is due to the fact that a certain situation between an employee and a conflict of interest is brewing and it's their attempt at dissuading this individual coming forward.
November 6, 2017 at 7:46pm Re: November 6 @10:26 - I suspect what the bitches in HR are reacting to is the roar of the karma bus. After ALL of the horrible treatment MANY have suffered at their hands (with Svaldi's blessings), they might be a bit nervous about their victims' desires to beat the snot out of them--which is quite understandable. I have NO sympathy for them. Let them keep crying wolf. ----Editor's Reply: While criticism of ASU employees is within the acceptable standards of commentary, expressing support or advocacy of violence is not. This comment appears to be getting close to doing that, so please remember that such statements will not be published. It is also not encouraged to refer to female employees in a derogatory manner based on gender.
November 6, 2017 at 10:26am Human resources is now threatening to call the police when employees bring contentious matters to their attention. I've heard that they've felt threatened a few times and use it in a manner to silence dissent. I've called their bluff and they never made the report. If you want a fair meeting with them you might as well record the entire meeting. Then, and only then, will they act professionally. SAD!
November 5, 2017 at 6:48pm I pray daily that Adams retains its accreditation, and McClure flies away on her broom!
November 4, 2017 at 11:25pm If McClure really wanted to leave a positive legacy at ASU (which is the opposite of what she is currently doing), she would phase out the football program and re-invest in more funding for academics and culturally-relevant student programs.
November 4, 2017 at 10:09pm How much scholarship money does the football program dole out each year? They are an embarrassment! Wouldn't it make sense to cut football and use the money to increase academic scholarships to attract students that aren't here just to play a sport?
November 4, 2017 at 12:04pm So quiet here lately. Is it the impending doom of the HLC visit? Fear of downsizing? Complete apathy, as everyone has given up?
October 27, 2017 at 5:01pm Apparently ASU administration and the board just see departing employees as fewer mouths to feed. Maybe they don't realize that these are the people who also make the meal that everyone is eating. When employees depart and are slow to be re-hired with a qualified replacement (this is the San Luis Valley we are talking about), there is an ongoing loss of revenue from the lack of expertise and labor from those who left. ASU has been slow to recognize the valuable contributions that employees make and how difficult it actually is to find qualified replacements. And if ASU is serious about improving admissions, they should not be admitting over half of their students with conditional enrollment due to low GPA or standardized test scores. These students are often never able to complete remedial courses (especially college math) and never go on to earn a degree. But ASU has been all too happy to sign them up, even if the data shows they are very unlikely to catch up and graduate within six years.
October 27, 2017 at 4:21pm Why bother with interviews when all new positions are hand picked ahead of time.
October 27, 2017 at 11:17am @9:02 Interviews for the admissions director position have begun. They hope to have a new director by December.
October 27, 2017 at 9:02am Ummm! Who is supervising Admissions?
October 26, 2017 at 4:54pm @10:52, more out of state travel would mean less trips to Starbucks and almost no time for lottery tickets. Not to mention news and football. The admissions counselors are very busy people.
October 26, 2017 at 10:52am Hopefully the new Marketing Director will request that admissions counselors recruit more Out-Of-State students especially the Midwest and East. Our competitors like Mesa and Western are sending their folks out there or have recruiters living in those states. This would make a significant increase in ASU income .
October 25, 2017 at 8:29am Wow! ASU executed a NATIONAL COMPETITIVE search for the new position of Director of Public Relations and Marketing so quickly. Impressive. [SARCASM!]
October 24, 2017 at 11:52pm Does it seem odd to anyone else that the BoT isn't scheduled to meet again until December?
October 24, 2017 at 11:29am Arnold Salazar’s brother-in-law is the new marketing director! Valley politics at their best!
October 24, 2017 at 9:03am Please see the following message from President McClure: Dear Faculty and Staff: I wanted to take this opportunity to clarify some information in the recent Valley Courier article that summarized some of the discussion at Friday’s Board meeting and to provide some additional information about the Contingency Plan. As a reminder, the Contingency Plan is just that—a plan. This plan is more comprehensive than identifying potential cuts. It will also focus on where we can generate additional revenue, improve operational efficiency of the University, and eliminate redundancy and waste. The creation of this plan is an inclusive process and will be open and transparent. Our goal is not layoffs, but instead to look at ways to take advantage of attrition over the next three years. We will also continue to try and reverse the downward enrollment trend we have been experiencing since 2011. The priorities of that plan do include reallocation of resources to make our faculty salaries more competitive. In fact, this is a priority for Dr. Nehring and me. We cannot rely on the Valley’s attractiveness to retain faculty with less than competitive salaries. The Executive Team has already taken steps to correct some faculty salaries in an effort to begin the process of bringing all faculty up to competitive levels. The Foundation has helped us offset the cost of a new Director of Public Relations and Marketing. We are excited that Chris Lopez has accepted this position and will begin in November. Chris is a seasoned Public Relations and Marketing professional, and is an alumnus of Adams State. Additionally, we are filling our vacant Director of Admissions position. We will be looking at offering courses at varying times to better attract our non-traditional age student population, as well as working to provide additional resources for programs that have the potential to grow. Offering non-credit course offerings targeted at serving the San Luis Valley for workforce and professional development is another consideration. In fact, the recent campus survey provided ideas for the type of courses that could be successful. As we move forward in a positive and transparent manner, we will continue to communicate with you openly and often. Please let us know if you have questions or need additional information. President McClure
October 24, 2017 at 12:40amEditor's Note: We have published a commentary detailing some ideas to cut costs and ramp up revenue at ASU. We encourage your comments on this topic!
October 23, 2017 at 9:09pm Worried? Scared? Angry? Wondering what you can do? The time for submitting HLC public comments may have passed, but you can still communicate your concern for ASU's precarious future by showing up to the next trustee meeting. A large audience will speak volumes in and of itself, but if you're comfortable you can also share your views during the public comment period. See you there. ---- Editor's Reply: Just a reminder that the ASU Trustees now maintain adams.edu email accounts and yes, they do check them and respond.
October 23, 2017 at 8:37pm @4:58pm: Respectfully beg to differ. Long lists of perpetrators are problematic, it's true, but everyone is NOT part of the problem. This is not just some sad, unavoidable situation. It's a crime. Crimes involve both victims and victimizers, and there is a distinct difference. I will not be summarily lumped in with the criminals. I will not dilute their guilt. I will not share in their culpability.
October 23, 2017 at 6:47pm I for one am against finger-pointing but certain names have to be brought to light! Why have some kind of Lovecraft-ian phobia as if these wolves are Cthulhu himself? Not everybody is part of the problem, how ridiculous and half-assed is such a comment! If you truly feel that way why don't you have the guts enough to be the martyr and take all the blame upon yourself because I for one will not find a hill to die upon for they who are truly to blame for the denigration of ASU.
October 23, 2017 at 6:34pm Totally agree with 4.58pm. Finger-pointing long lists of people who should be terminated sounds too fascistic for my taste. But as with any organization that faces systemic failure, its leadership - the president and the board of trustees - must be held accountable. Finally they have publicly admitted that ASU is facing an existential threat. Which is in essence a public admission that our leaders have failed to fulfill their jobs. I don't believe that this failure is a result of laziness or unwillingness, but that they simply do not know what to do. So it is incumbent on them to gracefully bow out and find people who can save us.
October 23, 2017 at 4:58pm Ladies and Gents: This is what is the real concern. All bullshit aside, this is the concern and everyone needs to be aware. This does not look good for future faculty nor students! QUIT POINTING FINGERS...... EVERYONE IS PART OF THIS CONCERN AND PROBLEM THAT WE ARE FACING!!! ---- Editor's Note: This commentator then pasted the entire text for the Valley Courier article, ASU financials cause concern.
October 23, 2017 at 1:49pm @10:53 - if you lump those with the reason of "broader economic trends" you clearly have the 25% of respondents who seem to have their heads in the sand. It also seems to show that those ruining the institution into the ground appear to be reading WA. "Broader economic trends" ??? When you look at other universities in the state, most are gaining students. CSU has record enrollment. CU enrollment is up as is U of northern CO. Broader economic trends? That along with WA provides these people with a way to blame someone else. I think the only way some people will see is if ASU fails. Unfortunately, those who are causing the issues are not going to be the ones standing in the bread lines.
October 23, 2017 at 1:37pm re: October 21 at 4:28 pm and October 22 at 8:29 am - Let's not forget to add Rodney Martinez, Alicia Harmon, Shannon Heersink, Jacqueline Martinez, Stephanie Hilwig, Mark Melgares, Kara Espinoza, Angela Madrid and Andrea Rydgrun, and Larie Bearss
October 23, 2017 at 10:53am The recent poll reveals an alarming amount of people that would choose "Watching Adams and its negativity" as a culprit for ASU declining enrollment. 12 votes the last I checked. That in and of itself, not counting those that are still too scared to click anything on the WA screen while sitting at work, should be cause for alarm. These folks are still "drinking the kool-aid" and refuse to see that if you take WA out of the equation - ASU is still hanging on by a thread over a cliff. Remove WA from the equation and the only difference is that we would be more in the dark than usual - or was admin readily handing out public information prior to all the CORA requests that WA has solicited? Didn't think so...
October 23, 2017 at 9:24am Dear friends and former colleagues, welcome to the abattoir. To all the adjuncts and untenured, your time of usefulness to this decrepit institution will be coming to an end. To all you tenured and privileged clubbers, your workload is about to increase with a modicum of a pay increase. Before this House of Usher falls the majority of pain and sacrifice will be put on your backs. In an effort to save what is left to their skins, your feudal lords will eliminate your peers of lower status in a paltry and fruitless effort to raise your pay somewhere above your current but still maintaining a sub CUPA status. In return for this paltry and ultimately meaningless gesture, you will no doubt be asked to teach evening classes, and weekend classes on top of your day load. “O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!” As part of the master plan to save your wretched and flailing institution, your dear leader and phalanx of cronies will be asking for schedule augmentations such as these to make the institution more appealing and accessible to unwary applicants. Of course with the elimination of adjuncts and the untenured, the weight of this burden in the fall directly upon your shoulders. Perhaps an alternate plan would be to have the dear leader McClure and others at Wretchardson Hall teach evening and weekend classes. Standing Strong, shoulder to shoulder with tenured faculty in a grand valiant effort for Addams Family Values and and bringing this ship safely into port. Can you see it now? Neither can I. On its current course the SS Adams should more aptly renamed the SS Titanic. The dear leader and Wretchardson Hall cronies are “right sizing” ASU into oblivion.
October 22, 2017 at 9:25pm The Valley Courier piece signals the watershed moment we all knew was coming. Administration is finally cornered by reality – they can no longer pretend everything is fine. Heersink says they’re not crying wolf yet, and she’s correct - they can’t cry wolf because they ARE the wolves. The wolves are crying uncle. The article is a clumsily orchestrated plea for help from administration. A plea for a bailout, a plea for outside intervention, a plea for mercy from the HLC, the DOE, somebody, anybody. And yet they still can’t help but engage in multiple false pretenses. The article references a “possible faculty retention problem”, as if we don’t all know the tsunami of departures is very, very real. They claim the flight of faculty is a pay issue, when we know it’s primarily a result of the supremely crappy, corrupt, and clubby culture they shamelessly honed. And Beverlee has the temerity to suggest that ASU’s enrollment issues can somehow be fixed with course scheduling – beyond laughable! More insidiously, the article is a clear, formal announcement of what we should expect in the coming year. Make no mistake about it, the “contingency plan” will be implemented. Faculty will be let go. If you aren’t tenured, get out of Dodge now. And if you are tenured, know that it may not save you when entire programs are cut. The wolves have finished raiding the hen house, and they’re now at your door looking to "right-size" you.
October 22, 2017 at 6:44pm Whether they are faculty, staff, or administration, offing some employees so the remaining ones receive higher salaries is a disaster for morale and institutional cohesion. Think about it: people no longer want to work together for mutual success and shared rewards but instead compete to make others look bad so they will be fired and the remaining employees take home a part of their fallen co-worker's paycheck. What could possibly go wrong? This is corporate cannibalism and just the kind of “leadership” a shill like McClure would introduce. Sounds like the Adams State Hunger Games to me! May the odds be ever in your favor.
October 22, 2017 at 6:25pm From the Courier article: "If the plan means faculty are let go then the remaining employees could theoretically receive a higher salary. 'This is one of the top priorities of this reallocation plan,' said McClure." McClure mentions letting go of faculty first? Is she out of her tiny little mind? Why does she think students come here, to see her? She should quit and take Novotny, Rogers, Crowther, and most of the athletics program with her. That would be a significant cost savings and no students would miss any of them.
October 22, 2017 at 1:15pm Larry Mortensen and his “great leadership” of his highly successful athletic department will be coming to an end this year due to his self announced retirement. His teams compete to hopefully reach “the playoffs” which in reality they are talking about the RMAC playoffs for many sports. Is this how high the bar is set for success in his athletic department? Or is it simply an enrollment quota for participant sports? The is not how ASC competed in the past, on and off the field. The ASC historic Wrestling program is at an all time low with zero accountability. Football is getting embarrassed constantly. Women’s Basketball is sad at best. Most teams strive to reach the coveted RMAC playoffs. Seriously? Thank God the dynasty that Coach Vigil built is on auto pilot still with strong coaching and scholarship funding. Svaldi gave Mortensen a $30,000 per year pay raise before his retirement. For what? For a padded false 3-4 year average to raise retirement income per PERA calculation methods. Mortensen knew this. He truly is a deceptive person. Mortensen deserves to be on this list and an AD to be remembered for his failures, not a few successes that were in place before he arrived.
October 22, 2017 at 11:46am I am wondering why there is a need for a "Director of Clery compliance"? In the DOE audit, there were issues with Clery compliance specifically called out. This was pointed out in McClure's letter to campus about the DOE findings. Considering many other, much larger institutions, do not staff a position like this, is this just another case of fluff at ASU? I am pretty sure that up until a couple years ago that position did not even exist at ASU. Was ASU ever called out on Cleary issues before?
October 22, 2017 at 8:29am @ October 21, 2017 at 4:28pm - Please do not forget Armando Valdez.
October 22, 2017 at 6:18am Re: the academic identity survey. If I had a dollar for every time a survey like this was sent out, I'd be rich. These surveys are sent out by our leaders under the pretense of gathering input but it's really to get others to do their job! Are we really going to base our optimal enrollment numbers off of an alum or community members perception of what they think is an optimal number? What are the trends, folks? What are best practices being developed all over the country? What are you getting paid to do?!
October 21, 2017 at 9:45pm I came across this comic from 2005 and it reminded me too much of Adams State not to share it here...
October 21, 2017 at 4:28pm Right-sizing the institution, huh? Allow me to make the following recommendations based on incompetence, culpability or both: Beverlee McClure Frank Novotny Ellen Novotny Ed Crowther Margaret Doell Elizabeth Thomas Hensley Tracy Rogers Karla Hardesty Kurt Cary Ana Guevara Larry Mortensen Dianne Lee Anthony Romero Judy Phillips Ken Marquez Lori Laske Gaylene Horning Richard Loosbrock Lisa Marie Centeno Elaine Trujillo Wenta Zena Buser Sammie Thomas Trabert Mark Schoenecker Julie Waechter Michael Henderson Berna Hostetter Aaron Miltenberger Lisa Clements Beneranda Chacon I'm sure there are others deserving of the unemployment line, but this would be a good start.
October 21, 2017 at 2:41pm So Bev stated we need to find new revenue streams. Isn't that why the stupid drunk was hired? Wasn't she hired to lobby and do fundraising? Oh yeah, she's been too busy dismantling our institution, firing competent people, and ensuring a Balkanized campus. Seems like Danny was speaking truth to power all along. But the power (the board) was too arrogant and up Bev's skirt to listen. And yes, we will "right size". Great plan, dozens of hardworking people, who truly care about this institution will be in the unemployment line. And our leader probably won't even know their names. Nice work Bev! You earned that evaluation and quarter of a million dollar salary.
October 21, 2017 at 11:36am Welp, even the Valley Courier is sounding the alarms about ASU’s poor finances, low enrollment, and high turnover. This reads like an article from Watching Adams over the last two years!
October 20, 2017 at 7:46am Again, where is the Board of Trustees? They remain silent, presumably transfixed by McClure's stunning "performance". Why doesn't the BoT make a public announcement about what it intends to do to save ASU? Or don't they have any idea?
October 20, 2017 at 7:11am If well-known, well-liked figures of other universities like Joe Paterno, Rick Pitino, etc. can get caught, be held accountable and suffer the consequences then why not the repeat offenders of ASU?
October 19, 2017 at 11:11pm Looking at these enrollment trends, we should just tell HLC to never mind and throw ourselves at the mercy of the state. Any of the systems, including the community college one, would be a lifesaver. Nice work Bev. Enrollment has dropped since you took the helm by a number larger than you indicated we needed to grow to make guaranteed tuition work. You truly don't know ANYTHING about higher education. AND, you've gotten rid of anyone who does and surrounded yourself with idiots dumber than you! Time to brush up the CV--as if we could be that lucky now. Holy sh*t!
October 16, 2017 at 10:28pm So what do people think about this ASU Academic Identity Survey? Is it the pretext for starting to cut programs and departments? A meaningless showpiece to pretend to care about public input? An administration completely out of ideas?
October 16, 2017 at 12:40pm What a great comment, Danny. I don't know how you were able to describe ASU so succinctly, but it's dead on!
October 12, 2017 at 8:55pm I have submitted my comment to the HLC. I saw no point in having my information remain confidential, though I understand why others might. It was challenging to condense my observations to under 250 words, but here's what I wrote: As a faculty member at Adams State University between 2011-2015, I found many of the institution's structures to be highly dysfunctional. Worse still, a hostile campus culture protects various types of corruption, fraud and ineptitude from meaningful internal reform. I joined multiple committees to address issues of salary inequality, lack of shared governance, deliberate lapses of academic integrity, violations of labor law and handbook codes, and low campus morale. Many employees on these committees subsequently encountered retaliation up to and including termination, workplace hostility to the point of attrition or constructive dismissal. In the years since, I have published WatchingAdams.org – an accountability website with over 100 news and commentary articles, public documents, external press, podcast interviews, and reader comments regarding Adams State. With the assistance of current and former employees, the site highlights various institutional problems primarily rooted in the policies and practices of the ASU administration. The institution's response was to ban me from campus without due process for false allegations of “campus safety”, culminating in the university being sued by the ACLU. The university settled out of court, paying $100,000 and lifting the campus ban. Multiple settlements with other former ASU employees have occurred before and since. After conducting dozens of anonymous and on-record interviews, I have concluded that the nature of ASU's problems are deeply entrenched and not merely regulatory or compliance issues. High employee turnover, declining student enrollment, and a retaliatory work environment warrant serious and sustained intervention to repair a fundamentally broken university. - Danny Ledonne
October 12, 2017 at 5:49pm Most of the people at One Stop need to work out of Richardson Hall anyway. It's not efficient for the department when the supervisor has to walk all the way across campus multiple times a day to check on things. Use the Community Outreach building to house people like Ken Marquez, Karla Hardesty, Margo & Mark and send the back part of One Stop to the 2nd floor of Richardson Hall. That should make things more efficient and improve accountability in that department.
October 12, 2017 at 4:32pm From the Valley Courier: Carpio is History Colorado philanthropy officer "The Community Museum Division of History Colorado recently added a new philanthropy officer as part of the recent expansion of Community Museum programming and services. Eric Carpio joins History Colorado as philanthropy officer for Community Museums. He brings with him more than 20 years higher education experience, most recently as Assistant Vice President of Student Services at Adams State University in Alamosa. At Adams State, Carpio and his team received more than $2.5 million dollars in different grants for several different programs. In his new position, he will design and implement fundraising strategies across the state to support Community Museum initiatives."
October 12, 2017 at 10:45am @9:18pm: One Stop is just as grueling. Come and go as you please and answer only to self. How can one be of service to the students when the office door is always closed even when they do decide to show up?
October 11, 2017 at 9:18pm Admissions is the place to be for those who want to collect a check. If streaming Netflix, ESPN or Fox News sounds like a rough day at the office, they have it the worst. I can't understand why enrollment is down!
October 10, 2017 at 6:40pm All comments to the HLC regarding ASU's accreditation are due by this Friday. The form asks, "Would you like HLC to remove your identifying information before sharing your comment with the evaluation team and institution?" and you may choose "Yes". If you have anything to say about ASU to its accreditor, this is the time to do so.
October 9, 2017 at 10:18am I think the comment about bumping rights is incorrect. The "talent agenda" part of HB 12-1321 eliminates bumping for all state employees except those within five years of retirement. Is this not the case?
October 8, 2017 at 2:43pm Classified will have bumping rights for those with seniority. Classified employees with less than 5 years will be let go. Exempt employment will be let go as they are at will. Classified employees who will retire in the next year won’t be paid out for early retirement.
October 7, 2017 at 4:01pm Does anyone know if there is a plan B in the event Adams does lose its accreditation? What will happen to classified and exempt employees?
October 7, 2017 at 3:27pm "The duty of citizens in a democracy is to be skeptical -- not to worship our leaders, who have always been fallible, but to question their decisions, challenge their policies, and hold them accountable for their failures." Ken Burns & Lynn Novick Same should be true regarding the duties of University employees.
October 6, 2017 at 9:43pm Is anyone really surprised by the Board's evaluation of McClure? This strikes me as precisely the kind of review that a lackadaisical, out of touch, asleep at the wheel board might give of a divisive, unhinged, vindictive president.
October 6, 2017 at 9:20pm "People skills exemplary with those not working under her." ...Wow, lots to unpack with this criticism tucked into a positive wrapper. I'm sorry, but this just cannot be the true or complete evaluation. Comments are far too sparse and generic and pointless for a position of this importance.
October 6, 2017 at 4:40pm What any wise, dedicated employee should do when receiving their evaluation is to start with the lowest numbers because they point to where they need to improve. * "Works effectively to maintain high morale among subordinates and between herself, her staff, and others within the University. = 3.1" I've heard so many people say morale at ASU has never been lower. * "Based upon the President's leadership, faculty and staff have confidence in the future of the institution. = 3.25" The Board pegged this one, but should have given her a 2.0. None of us have confidence we'll still be open next year or the year after. * "The President's leadership has a positive influence on employee morale and performance. = 3.25" Her influence is most definitely negative overall. She has created a divided campus which is becoming less divided as people realize just how bad she is. Sounds like Trump. * "The President is effective in resolving significant problems. = 3.37" Hahahahaha! Look at how she dealt with Ledonne, HLC, enrollment, etc. * "Reacts too quickly without thought at times." Understatement to be sure. * "Looks at problems with clarity, logic, and coolness, and makes decisions based on facts. = 3.4" Yeah, not so much. Coolness? Hardly. Board suggests faculty may be able to assess some of these more accurately. I should say so. The Board picked up on many disturbing shortcomings, but they definitely did not realize or care to admit just how bad these things really are. McClure is no leader. She isn't and never was presidential material. The sooner she goes, the better ASU will be.
October 5, 2017 at 11:54pm President evaluation is a bunch of horse crap! I work at ASU and she has yet to speak or acknowledge me. She’s an arrogant arse! What’s it going to take for others to see her true colors? Get her the hell out of here!
October 5, 2017 at 8:13pm Evaluations completed at Adams State are unprofessional done by unprofessional people or those placed in “puppet power” (Board members) and acknowledged by those they evaluate (McClure) as being of high esteem, character, and servitude. In Arnold Toynbee’s writings Theory of Civilizations, he argues that the breakdown of civilizations begins from decay within by the actions of the dominant minority that forces the majority to obey without meriting obedience. The Dominant Minority then forms a “Universal State” which stifles political creativity. This process leads to the fall of civilizations. History shows this time and time again. Just some thought and parallel to the Rise and Fall of Adams State.
October 5, 2017 at 1:06am I'm not sure what to make of McClure's evaluation. Has the board truly lost touch? Or are they giving her an "out"? Let's review. On a 5 point scale--with 5 being the highest mark, below are her overall marks on each dimension and my thoughts related to each. Commitment to Institutional/System Mission = 4.7 (A-): Ok, perhaps she is committed to institutional mission. How has she proven that through her actions in the past 2 years of her tenure? Part of our mission is that of an HSI...has anyone counted, lately, how many Hispanic employees she has either fired or run off? Leadership Ability = 3.9 (B+): Seriously? McClure couldn't lead her way out of a paper bag. Other than a handful (literally 4-5 individuals) believe in her leadership. The rest of us are waiting with baited breath for her to leave. She is NOT able to "resolve significant problems" any more than she "has a positive influence on employee morale and performance". I could go on, but, space is limited. Management Effectiveness = 4.0 (B): She displays none of these characteristics. Let's just talk about "appropriate judgment in the appointment and retention of senior institutional personnel". From Margo to Kurt to Karla to Scott to Liz, her "administration" is full of incompetent buffoons! And, the most competent can't wait to get the hell out. Fiscal Management = 4.2 (A-/B+): Seriously? BUDGET CRISIS! Need we say more? Daily Decision Making/Problem Solving = 3.9 (B+): "Identifies problem areas before they escalate into crisis". Well, the majority of us know she is the crisis. And we know she loves to escalate things. Human Relations/Communications Skills = 4.5 (A-): HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Fundraising = 4.15 (A-/B+): How much has she brought in over the last two years? Academic Quality/Accountability = 4.7 (A-): Three letters: HLC What a bunch of bullshit!
October 4, 2017 at 3:59pm:---- Editor's Note: We have received and published President McClure's 2017 evaluations.
October 2, 2017 at 2:36pm: New email that came out 10/2/17: Office of the President Dear Campus Community: Last week two staff members from the Department of Education were on campus conducting a Program Review of Adams State University. The team met with a number of Adams State University staff and among other things they reviewed student files associated with Federal Financial Aid, conducted an analysis of our compliance with the Clery Act, and explored some distance education courses. On Thursday evening the DoE site review team provided an exit interview with the Administration during which they described a handful of findings as well as outlining next steps in the process and the time frame until the final report is complete. Some issues flagged for attention by ASU included a couple of items under Clery; a policy for how many semesters of developmental education any given student can complete; evaluation of our procedures related to conditionally admitted students at both the undergraduate and graduate levels; and an institutional policy for how we make referrals to the Office of the Inspector General. The Department of Education will complete a preliminary program review report in 60-75 days (end of November or early December). Adams State University will have 30-60 days to respond to this preliminary report and the Department of Education will then issue their final report some 90 days later. I will keep the campus community informed as we receive more information and as results from the Program Review become available. Thank you. Sincerely, President McClure
October 1, 2017 at 12:18pm I didn’t realize there was an administrative person in the athletic department (a bit of sarcasm). Dianne Lee is hardly ever in the office. She’s either out taking care of her grown up kids, out to conferences, sitting at games, golfing with Margo and our glorious President McClure. She’s one of the President minions kissing ass and making a huge salary. Have you noted her title? Dianne Lee, Associate Athletic Director/Senior Women Administrator. No college degree nor does she represent any of our students' demographics and she’s as rude as she comes just like her President! If I was not a single parent, relying on my income and insurance for my young children, I’d be gone. I work three jobs to keep afloat. I have a masters degree and I’m still one of the lowest paid employees. People like Dianne Lee infuriate me to no end. There is no transparency, no equity or equality. It’s just a big black dark deep hole. It won’t get better, HLC will dismiss the probation, jobs will be cut (including mine), continue to be in debt. It’s her way or the Highway. And Crowther, Novotny, Nehring, McClure, Doell, Hardesty will continue to reign and look down us with smirks and arrogance because they won the fight! People will continue to resign... and we’ll be back in the same situation in 4 years. It’s a damned cycle. Signed, Feeling Hopeless and Beaten
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