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NEWS: Reading Between the Lines: A Closer Look at ASU’s Fall 2019 Enrollment

DOCUMENTS:
Adams State University Census Reports:
2015 – 2016 – 2017 – 2018 – 2019
Combined Fall 2015-2019 Census Reports

Fall 2018-2019 Comparison

ASU Enrollment Statistics – Fall 2019

10-7-19 Banner Enrollment Report

ASU Employee Salary Data 2019-2020

2019-2024 President Contract


 

November 21, 2019 at 4:11am
Top 5 Reasons Karla Hardesty Has Not Been Fired
(Written by our Senior BS Analyst in the field)

It confused me for some time as to why Karla Hardesty has not been fired. In any other industry when that division is performing poorly, new leadership is always brought in. So why then, can a person be failing so miserably at their job, yet continue on? Here are my top 5 reasons why Karla Hardly has not been fired.

1. Nationwide trends. Since Universities across the country are facing similar issues, we can hardly blame one person at our less than prestigious University.

2. The accreditation debacle. How can we blame her when the University as a whole was making very poor unethical decisions.

3. Narcissism. The current and previous president’s share a similar behavior. They believe that they ultimately know all the answers. They do not look to other people on their team to solve big problems. They believe they alone have all the answers and they look to the people on their team to just execute their ideas. Therefore, Karla isn’t expected to solve the problems, she just needs to demonstrate she is doing what they tell her to do.

4. Problems everywhere. Enrollment has been one of many, many problems the university faces. Complaints abound from everywhere on campus. There are so many problems to solve, it’s hard to just focus in on this one.

5. Lack of stability. With all the turmoil that had occurred, leadership erroneously may believe that a public firing could bring unwanted attention. The desire to just have stability is so strong that a status quo environment ensues.

The thinking errors here pile up and give Karla Hardesty job security. This is as much an organizational culture issue as anything else. The university DOES NOT pursue excellence as a standard. It pursues stability. They have no understanding that pursuing excellence WOULD give them stability.

I would go on with what pursuing excellence would look like, but #3 exists. We already think we know. ASU needs to wholeheartedly embrace a culture of excellence. Don’t just graduate students and pat yourself on the back because they are first generation or low income. Bring them to a higher level!

Start with creating that higher within your leadership.

This boils down to one thing. Even if this is a nationwide issue, ASU needs someone in that position that can and will figure it out. Clearly, Karla is not that person!
November 20, 2019 at 8:09pm
Thank you for your feedback.

- Dodie Day
November 20, 2019 at 6:25pm
No, Dodie, it’s never too soon to worry about enrollment...especially given our drastically overall declining rates these past few years. And to suggest that you are “thinking and hoping for only a 3% drop” isn’t acceptable either. This type of nonchalant attitude is part and parcel of what got us here. This and the fact that the any growth has been in dual enrollment, where enrollment is not guaranteed over time (and pointed out in earlier comments and commentaries). But then, you are not an enrollment management expert (as Karla isn’t either). You and her are no Eric Carpio, Michelle Romero or Dr. Mumper. You are a product of your time as Frank Novotny’s secretary. Period. And everyone knows his role in the decimation of ASU.

Finally the point of my earlier comment wasn’t about whether or not spring would be salvageable, rather will ASU be salvageable once Karla is through. Stop reading into comments things and thoughts that aren’t there. It is irritating at best. At worst, well...your lack of knowledge shows. And that’s the nicest way I can put it.
November 19, 2019 at 7:16pm
Too soon to be concerned about enrollment for Spring 2020. We always lose freshmen. The students who are pushed by parents, being offered a very small scholarship to play a sport and get discouraged because they are a red shirt, or they realize they don't have the skills to succeed. This will always be the case due to our mission. I think and hope we are only down 3% Spring 2020.

- Dodie Day
November 19, 2019 at 5:16pm
Happy Thanksgiving from the prez. Oh and btw continue to do Karla Hardesty’s job. Cause, ya know, she’s so freaking competent — I mean we are potentially down 540 MORE students this spring. Seriously... when will she be fired?
November 18, 2019 at 10:41pm
In Dr. Gilmer's short time at Adams State, he spearheaded several initiatives like creating the National Center for Historically Underserved Students, advocated for the Hall of Research in McDaniel Hall, and shined some much-needed sunlight onto Extended Studies with the Mathieu Report. While not perfect and only at ASU for just over a semester before being chased out by McClure and her minions, Dr. Gilmer was eminently qualified and deeply understood ASU's mission in ways that Dr. McClure never did and likely never could.

He also didn't violate people's civil rights, publicly insult ASU's accreditor, lie countless times on impulse, and leave the institution in much worse shape than he found it.  McClure did all of those things.  It's entirely false equivocation to believe they are two figures in some comparative middle with respect to one another. That's not remotely descriptive of the reality born out by the evidence.  Such a conclusion isn't "absolutist" if it's broadly and factually true.
November 18, 2019 at 9:45pm
Regarding previous comment.

I left Adams State in 2018 and what I still cannot comprehend is that "absolute" rhetoric - quite common to the western civilization in general - that is so prevalent at Adams State. Dr. Gilmer was portrayed as a combination of every great thing that can happen - he is gay, he is eloquent, he is innovative. Ok, well, Dr. Gilmer did not do a thing - not even looked at my retention folder. And Dr. McClure - after her resignation of course - was the essence of pure evil, if you listen to some people.

Truth is that neither of these descriptions are accurate. Nor they do any good to students or faculty. Nor they are constructive.

The fact that he got an award means very little, to be honest. If you want to argue otherwise, well - Dr. McClure had quite a few of these. All faculty and administrators will acquire several awards in their professional lifetime. They mean nothing, but actions that precede them do.

I am not defending them. In the current financial situation and prior history Adams State is unlikely to attract great leaders to come and to serve in senior academic positions. So people have to learn how to deal with each other and perhaps refrain from dichotomizing people and events.
November 14, 2019 at 11:50pm
Dr. Chris Gilmer, President of West Virginia University at Parkersburg, won an award tonight for Business Leader of the Year.  Imagine what awards, recognition, and positive change Dr. Gilmer could have brought to Adams State University if he weren't run off campus, like so many others, by a corrosive workplace culture and vindictive administrators.

Dr. Gilmer is just another example of "Great Stories Begin Here... and Get Better Somewhere Else!"
November 14, 2019 at 7:47pm
I really wish someone would enlighten me and others who weren’t able to attend the all campus meeting as to what happened!?

President Lovell “learn”?!? Have you met her? She is a know it all bully. She really dislikes to be questioned, challenged or otherwise told she’s wrong. Her senior staff get that. Just ask the yes-women (and Kevin).

Conferences? Do tell! From what I understand, Lovell LOVES conferences herself. Seriously when is she here? And how much fundraising has she accomplished during that travel (which by the way costs the institution significant dollars)? Perhaps WA should do an open records request for that!

Regarding the follow up “survey”. One of the most poorly constructed instruments I’ve ever seen! I said so in my responses. And I didn’t hold back on my criticism of the “leadership” (what an oxymoron). Let’s see if I get fired. Stay tuned!
November 14, 2019 at 7:15am
The real question is what did President Lovell learn from the Great Colleges campus update meeting? Anything? Based on the categories where we fell short, upper administration should be paying close attention.
November 13, 2019 at 11:44am
My Great Colleges To Work For Survey came in this morning. Yay! A new way to silence us!!! Here’s what mine said when I clicked on the link:

"You need permission - This form can only be viewed by users in the owner's organization. Try contacting the owner of the form if you think this is a mistake. Learn More."
November 12, 2019 at 11:25am
What’s with President Lovell displaying social disparity and cutting people off during today’s All Campus Meeting?

You know where you can fix things President Lovell? Stop paying people to go to conferences which will never translate into them being more knowledgeable or productive when they get back to work. They just treat it as time off from work and real life and will resume their malingering and taking time off. Yesterday a lot of people were off. Abuse of flex time is another way ASU is being destroyed from within.
November 11, 2019 at 11:31am
Why are the names of the VPAA finalists a secret?
November 9, 2019 at 9:11am
My daughter graduated from ASU in 2015 with her nursing degree. She has had an incredible number of job opportunities, including an offer before she even graduated or passed the NCLEX. She wanted to sample different types of work and needed to move with her husband after getting married, and nursing allowed her to do that. She's worked 5 different jobs, including Director of Nursing. When she needed to move, they practically offered her the job over the phone. She and her proud father are very pleased.

I can't think of any other profs' children who have gone here, but I wouldn't necessarily know if they had. The fact that ASU is the only institution in the state that doesn't offer at least 50% (if not 100%) tuition remission for our kids does little to motivate their attendance here.

BTW, ASU's Nursing Department's NCLEX pass rates for the last two years have been 94.44% (of 18 students) and 86.36 (of 22 students), a huge increase from the 40-68% rates during 2013-2016. Way to go Nursing!

- Jeff Elison
November 8, 2019 at 7:15am
I've never been in a class with a teacher's kid. Where do ASU teachers send them?
October 25, 2019 at 6:06 am
Wow, looks like we are no longer a Teacher Ed college and are now a Business college?
October 24, 2019 at 7:24pm
Editor's Note: We have obtained ASU undergraduate/graduate department enrollment from 2015-2019.
October 20, 2019 at 6:06pm
Right there with you, 5:45pm on the 19th.

Our president didn't even acknowledge a graduate from our prison program whose parents made a sustainable contribution to ASU. There was a picture in the A Stater, no president though.

- Dodie Day
October 19, 2019 at 5:45pm
Replying to the comment from October 17, 2019 at 10:15pm - Salazar benefited from all these equity bullshit workshops. Do you need a fancy facility to talk about equity and shit? I always was surprised by the ratio of equity talk and lack of that in everyday operation of the school. It looks like they are inversely proportional. But ASU get tons of Title V support... okay, I got it.

One instance surprised me the most. One of the four finalists for the president's position was Salazar’s wife. She was obviously clueless. I still don’t get why she was chosen. Okay, maybe there are politics. But why none of the senior faculty said anything about it, is unclean to me. You are sinking your own ship.
October 19, 2019 at 5:44pm
I have been on vacation the last two weeks. Looks like numbers were released. I believe numbers should be released by department. What departments are attracting students?

- Dodie Day

-- Editor's Reply: We have filed an open records request for all ASU undergraduate/graduate department enrollment from 2015-2019. We will publish any updated information we receive.
October 18, 2019 at 7:35pm
"...We need and want teachers and scholars who would unhesitatingly come to the defense of the 'odd ball', the heretic, the dissenter, the troublemaker, whose freedom to speak and to write is under some threat from colleagues, administrators, governing board, government, or pressure groups. ...One of the most important tasks of true, freedom-and-progress-loving scholars is to come to the aid of a troublemaker under attack." -AAUP President Fritz Machlup, 1964
October 17, 2019 at 10:15pm
Speaking of the Trump administration, the White House's announcement to host next year's G7 Summit at Donald Trump's Miami resort... is right out of Arnold Salazar's playbook by personally profiting from a campus equity retreat while serving as ASU Board Chair!
October 16, 2019 at 6:40pm
The enrollment numbers are worse than expected. That must be the reason they were moved to the top secret server, or was that the Trump administration? I get confused.
October 16, 2019 at 7:40am
The "Reading Between the Lines" commentary is helpful to put the latest enrollment numbers in perspective, but the new "Fall 2018-2019 Comparison" file is much more alarming. With comparable categories, you can see:

- "Full-time" enrollment, which is probably the traditional benchmark, is down 110 students. A whopping 7.5% decline from last fall.

- Similarly "Headcount" is down 95 students, 4.7%.

- "FTE" is down 121, 6%

I guess administration can be proud of budgeting for a 5% decline and just about achieving it.
October 14, 2019 at 12:20pm
So instead of "Adams State attracts 513 new students," a more honest headline would read, "Adams State attracts 65 fewer new students than last year and 173 fewer than in 2015."  686 new freshman down to 513 is a drop of 25% in five years, folks... and still declining.
October 11, 2019 at 8:27am
Yes, very dishonest reporting. Note the spin in their press release. The headline "Adams State attracts 513 new students" is ambiguous, making it sound like they grew by 513. This gem, "Adams State’s student population mirrors national trends, where the number of students seeking graduate degrees is growing faster than the undergraduate student population," makes it sound like undergraduate enrollment grew when it actually shrank, just like the national trend.
October 10, 2019 at 3:10pm
Re: October 10 @ 1:30 - Those 236 aren’t just “undeclared” they are dual enrollment — high school students taking a course here and there that satisfy high school and guaranteed transfer requirements. A few of them will matriculate but not the majority. Yes, very dangerous (and dishonest) reporting indeed.
October 10, 2019 at 1:30pm
A few things stand out from the Fall 2019 enrollment numbers.

(1) ASU clearly wanted to hide the bad news, which is, things haven't improved and in fact, they've probably gotten worse. If this weren't true, they would have simply reported the numbers as opposed to creating new categories and stalling the release.

(2) Enrollment appears to be at 1,908 students, which is apparently up from 1,710 students in Fall 2018. BUT, that is only if you include undeclared majors in the equation. Since 2016, undeclared majors have increased from 27 to 236 but they only take an average of 4.2 credits per semester. This is a dangerous trend in a higher ed environment in which credit hours per student are the best predictor of revenue generated.

(3) If you take out undeclared majors, and simply compare enrollment of 1-4 year students, enrollment is down 8% from 2016 to 2019. That's a much more accurate way of looking at the overall picture.

(4) It's not all bad news. Although impossible to know for sure based on the way figures were presented this year, it appears that ASU's headcount is up 3% from last fall. It's likely that this isn't entirely accurate because it seems as if some heads are being counted multiple times but if nothing else, this reveals that enrollment may be stabilizing at ASU.

(5) ASU's administration continues to fail its faculty, staff and students by refusing to provide transparent numbers. This is a major problem for an institution that is ostensibly trying to regain trust on a campus that has a hard time remembering what trust means in the first place.
October 7, 2019 at 7:24am
Related to free tuition, I half jokingly pointed out at the benefits meeting that voting for Sanders could lower our growing health care costs. That applies to Warren, too. Can you imagine a prescription drug cost limit of $200/person/year (Sanders' plan)? The pharmaceutical companies are pulling in piles of cash while students and higher ed employees struggle.

- Jeff Elison
October 6, 2019 at 7:05pm
@October 6, 2019 at 10:17am - This might be a case where we should take your apparent sarcasm seriously.  Tuition-free college is the logical, policy-based extension of tuition-free K-12 schools.  For all the reasons we have public grade schools (social mobility, economic opportunity, level of education likely to be a successful individual), we should also have tuition-free college.

This isn't only an Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders idea; Governor Polis has also advocated for tuition-free 2 year college for Coloradans.  Given the population it serves, ASU and the surrounding SLV community would benefit tremendously from a tuition-free college program.  And in my opinion, Colorado shouldn't be among the eleven states spending more on prisons than on higher ed.
October 6, 2019 at 10:17am
If we give everyone free tuition, we will increase our numbers. Maybe we should institute Elizabeth Warren’s ideas now! Free tuition leads to higher enrollment. Problem solved.
October 5, 2019 at 8:24pm
Re: October 5 @ 6:51 - Yes, recruitment and retention are everyone’s job. Except Karla.

#karlaforpresident
October 5, 2019 at 6:51pm
HEY! Recruitment and retention is everyone's job. So go do it. But do it without the numbers to indicate how we are doing. Operating in the dark is so much better. At least for those who want to hide the numbers.
October 5, 2019 at 7:39am
Administration can only delay the inevitable and not for very long. So ask yourself, Why bother delaying at all? My answer: They don’t want to release #’s until they’ve first figured out their plan for addressing them. It’s a form of administrative self-preservation. They must be seen to have all the answers up front, right? Reactionary decisions are being made behind closed doors right now without community input, without any dialogue. Their “solution”, hatched in isolation, will be imposed on the campus. It won’t be transformative. And it will likely involve pain (for others, not them). So the vicious cycle continues.

If I’m off base, fine. But what else is one to think? We all know that holding back numbers is not a sign of anything good.
October 5, 2019 at 7:20am
@Oct 4, 8:05am - “But community spirit is supported through trust, transparency, collaboration, and accountability; foundational components of a healthy institution that ASU just does not possess.“

That, in a sentence, is why I and so many others are no longer at ASU. Attrition isn’t just an issue with students. Dozens of faculty and staff who desired a healthy academic environment, who require trust and transparency in their daily life, and who strove to introduce the foundational components that were glaringly absent, were forced (literally) to conclude that the capacity was just not there. ASU just does not possess it.

I still ask myself why this is. I believe your above statement encapsulates the one central issue ASU must take up - earnestly - if it is to survive the rural institutional purge that is inexorably marching toward its doorstep.

I’ve been watching from afar for years now. Presidents and VPAAs come and go. Don’t see that anything fundamental has changed.

Transparency, in all its painful glory: Give it a try. Release the numbers. Then talk about them. Together. Candidly.
October 4, 2019 at 8:05am
The fact that aggregate enrollment numbers have not been made publicly available, let alone to faculty and staff, is deplorable. Shame on administration for keeping people in the dark - AGAIN! I can't help but think back to the Letter to the Editor in regards to "starting a movement". "Who wants to attend a school where the energy of the institution remains locked within the few blocks of the buildings?" - energy isn't the only thing locked in the buildings of this campus. I'm sure most will agree that they miss the "sense of community spirit". But community spirit is supported through trust, transparency, collaboration, and accountability; foundational components of a healthy institution that ASU just does not possess. Perhaps Dr. Seger or any other community member can go ask for enrollment numbers, since even public CORA requests have gone unanswered. We're all in this together right?
October 3, 2019 at 8:26pm
Word on the street is that enrollment is down between 8-11%. Tomorrow’s meeting would be a great opportunity to press for the actual figures.
October 3, 2019 at 10:32am
Hiding enrollment numbers is bad management. No trust for admin anymore, period.
October 3, 2019 at 7:53am
The top brass are worried the public will see the enrollment numbers and conclude we've failed again with recruitment and retention. They are using a divide and conquer strategy where they will only provide specific numbers to specific people and departments. That way, no one will see the big picture and we have no context for interpreting our own department's numbers. Then, they can tell us anything they want about our performance.
October 2, 2019 at 6:33pm
Dear Oct 1, 3:00pm, Yes someone has numbers, they just aren't sharing. A great example of transparency. Failure to share those numbers sets a new precedent, one that should concern us all. The daily news reminds us how much presidents like a good cover up. This definitely lowers my opinion of the current administration.
October 1, 2019 at 3:30pm
So Lovell receives bonuses for saving money. Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that she is saving money off of employees’ backs in order to line her own pocket? Case on point: the proposed employee pay for their dependents’ health insurance. Yes! This proposal is going forward. It is imperative that everyone attend Friday’s meeting!
October 1, 2019 at 3:00pm
So, are there no enrollment numbers for the fall 2019 semester? I am guessing they are bad... but does anyone have actual numbers?
September 30, 2019 at 8:02am
I'm so glad U.S. News recognized Adams for social mobility of our students. Too bad ASU doesn't provide social mobility for its staff and faculty. U.S. News refers to families making less than $50,000 as an impoverished background. Probably half the employees at ASU make less than that, so unless they have an employed spouse, they qualify as impoverished by U.S. News standards. What help does ASU offer with their kids' tuition? Zero. ASU is the only public 4-year institution in Colorado that offers no help with tuition. So much for caring about social mobility within its own ranks.
September 26, 2019 at 11:32am
Maybe the fire drill should include testing doors to see if they can be opened by children. The library seems like a death trap if a child was ever in there during a fire. The issue has been on AS&F's list, but no change.
September 20, 2019 at 6:44pm
The president is raking in the money while she plans to cut our benefits. We will see our depressing turnover rate worsen. Students will suffer.
September 19, 2019 at 8:31pm
People!!! Karla is still in charge of enrollment management. It’s simple, figures don’t lie but liars figure.

#karlaforpresident
September 19, 2019 at 7:40pm
Humm, when Dr. Lovell came to visit me, she indicated that enrollment numbers would not be known until census date. Well past, probably... working on "FUSSY" numbers.

- Dodie Day
September 18, 2019 at 1:39pm
Dear September 18, 2019 at 5:45am - No, the numbers are a mystery. Danny Ledonne made a CORA request to HR, but Tracy claimed they have no such document. This in spite of the fact that Danny has requested and received those numbers for many past semesters. So much for Open Records. What might this imply? Are the numbers that bad? Has ASU administration reached a new low in transparency?
September 18, 2019 at 10:03am
The president's new contract is generous to say the least. Unless I'm reading it wrong, the president stands to make $1.67 million over the next 5 years, which works out to $334k per year. That's a massive jump from the $210k/year that the previous presidents were pulling in. It seems odd to me that her new contract hasn't received more attention, especially given the difficult fiscal decisions that the campus is collectively having to make simply to stay afloat.
September 18, 2019 at 5:45am
So have the fall numbers not been released?
September 11, 2019 at 6:53pm
Can anyone, perhaps someone who attended the Campus Update, provide an actual number for how many undergraduate students we had as of the census date?
September 9, 2019 at 9:05am
To the August 25th posters and the conversation about privacy online and paranoia - some things gather negative and reflexive reactions of paranoia, or other psychological problems, when in point of fact, Snowden and others are persona non gratis and worse for the releasing of such knowledge about spying on individuals by the govt. AND it does not stop there! Your neighbors and others can hack you without your knowledge, read all of your stuff, and take custody of your email accounts, by hacking into it and changing the password. Trust me on this: do not ever let your recovery Emails, #'s get out of date.

- Ali
September 7, 2019 at 5:30pm

I may not agree with you. I do respect your opinion. I hope that venting your thoughts and/or discuss has helped release your anger. It has helped me.

I did not blame the current Interim VPAA of anything. It was an administrative decision. That does not hold one person accountable.

If you have never worked in Richardson Hall, it is hard to understand the dynamics. Depending on who the president is, the E-Team can just be puppets on a string. They are all at-will.

We all see what is happening in the areas we are working in. Speak out. If you do not you are part of the problem.

- Dodie Day
September 7, 2019 at 1:25pm
Respectfully disagree with the assessment of Margo’s ethics. She earned her stripes in the Mean Girls Club. And while the past cannot be changed, it can and should inform the present.
September 7, 2019 at 12:10pm
Dear Dodie,

With ALL due respect, your very first paragraph is an oxymoron. To suggest we cannot completely blame one person, then suggest that people have differences about what is ethical or acceptable is simply — WOW! You are correct. We cannot completely lay the blame on Frank. After all, Dave Svaldi allowed him to get away with it and many others chose not to blow the whistle — yourself included (which brings into question your own ethics). As to what others — including yourself deem ethical — I can’t decide that for you. But HLC certainly did. The US Department of Education certainly did, as did a majority of folks on campus. (I do have to applaud your loyalty to such a schmuck as Novotny. I certainly couldn’t do it.)

As to your comment about the past: no, we certainly can’t change it. But it’s imperative to learn from it so as not to repeat it. Which, from what I glean from your earlier post, is exactly what you are claiming the current Interim VPAA of doing: putting the almighty dollar ahead of the student. Like or hate Margaret, she’s a far more ethical person than your former boss will ever be.
September 7, 2019 at 10:38am
@September 7, 2019 at 7:42am - In my opinion, it is impossible to blame one person, past or present. We all have our own views about what is ethical or acceptable.

Watching Adams provides a platform to bring attention to current issues. We can't change the past.

- Dodie Day
September 7, 2019 at 8:45am
Ken Marquez makes as much as two full professors, almost as much as three new profs! Why?
September 7, 2019 at 7:45am
Policy # 100-03-05 "Student Non-Attendance Verification"

All Academic Undergraduate policies can be found using the link below:
https://www.adams.edu/publications/undergraduate-academic-policies/

Under the bold heading "100-03 Academic Responsibilities - Undergraduate" you will find policy # 100-03-05 "Student Non-Attendance Verification - Undergraduate Students (PDF)"

- Dodie Day
September 7, 2019 at 7:42am
Dear Dodie,

Not to defend this administration, BUT...when you were in the VPAA office so was Frank Novotny. And Dr. No was responsible for all of our problems—academic probation, financial aid fines, fraudulent salaries, vacations to Singapore, etc, etc, etc. Sooo...I’m just sayin’. The shit show has been going on for a very long time. And the VPAA under whom you worked taught everyone else how to commit fraud.
September 7, 2019 at 6:55am
Senate should review the incident Dodie describes. It is a clear intrusion into the domain of faculty. 

Dodie, you are fearless!

#dodieforpresident
September 6, 2019 at 8:50pm
This one is hard to believe: On the census date, a student, who has never attended one class, has had no interaction with the faculty member teaching the course. They are dropped from the course. The following day, administration determined they were to be added back into the class. It would affect their financial aid. This is a prime example that the dollar is more important than the student.

When I was in the VPAA office, the faculty member decided if a student who had never attended class could remain in the class and succeed. Administration only approved the facility recommendation. The concern was for the success of the student, not the dollars.

- Dodie Day
September 3, 2019 at 9:59pm
Dodie! Karla is never going to provide accurate figures. Has anyone looked into what goes on in admissions?  Figures don't lie but liars figure.

#karlaforpresident
#lastmeangirlstanding
August 31, 2019 at 10:55pm
Speaking of cuts, it appears Leslie Cramblet Alvarez will be cutting and running soon.  Heavens!  How many Mean Girls are even left?  How did that whole "Standing Strong for President McClure" posture work out?
August 31, 2019 at 3:09pm
Yes, I remember the many comments by Dr. Lovell. "Can't Cut Yourself to Success" was one of them. "550 new students, 550 new students, 550 new students," over and over again. Karla stated we didn't quite make it. When will we hear the truth?

- Dodie Day
August 31, 2019 at 9:46am
Brace yourselves for the Oct 4th benefit rate discussion. Take home pay is about to drop. We will be given several shitty options and "discuss" which is least painful. They will justify cutting our benefits because ASU can't stay afloat if we don't make more cuts, blah, blah. The Board gives us a raise and administration will reduce benefits to where we are worse off than last year. Is it any wonder we can't retain employees and properly serve our students? So many people have left that Student Support Services can't come close to the service it used to provide. Do I remember someone saying we can't cut our way to success? Cuts take many forms and ASU is hemorrhaging.
August 30, 2019 at 12:17pm
As I was looking at salary information for 18-19 I noticed there is no dollar amount listed for the Vice President of Academic Affairs. Was there a reason for this? I also noticed that salary information was not listed for 19-20 for the position of Professor in Teacher Education. Both of these positions held by Dr. Joaquin Vila. It would be interesting to see what the salary was for him as the VPAA, total payments made to him in July and his salary as a professor of Teacher Ed. Just curious to see if he was paid some sort of settlement.

- Dodie Day
August 27, 2019 at 7:07am
Selective justice is alive and well at ASU.
August 26, 2019 at 7:30pm
Don't worry about the cameras. The School of Business had over $150 in items taken and we have cameras throughout the building. ASUPD couldn't see anything.

- Dodie Day
August 26, 2019 at 7:11pm
Karla Hardesty? That is JOKE, right?
August 25, 2019 at 7:00pm
@ 8/25 10:02 - Its not paranoia. Ask Russel Shawcroft, he loves to record conversations on his cell phone.

#karlaforpresident
August 25, 2019 at 11:18am
@August 25, 2019 at 7:43am:

Although I get what you are saying you miss the point that many are just being exploited through surveillance and a lot of it has to do with who their supervisors are. Paranoia isn’t even a factor in my previous post it has everything to do with being aware. I understand socialism and all the byproducts but this has nothing to do with socialism in and of itself. Most of the people doing the bullying, watching and exploiting don’t even understand what socialism is. Some people get away with ridiculous measures of insubordination, etc. while another person can’t even get away with taking a breather for five minutes. They don’t even like it when people have friends outside of their departments. 

People who repeatedly do things they should get written up for don’t. It’s all about creating a subculture of subterfuge and fear. Department heads telling us not to trust our supervisors. Supervisors telling us not to trust the department heads. Look at all the buildings with cameras then look at the people who go and talk to the people in charge of said cameras and the camaraderie between them and you will see who is watching whom and it’s not just people who work under them.
August 25, 2019 at 11:01am
Hey August 25, 2019 at 7:43am - You sound super confused so I'll help you out.  You assure us that Adams State isn't watching people, then you assert that big tech companies are doing much more surveillance. Then you complain about government "socialism" having more control. But ASU is "socialism" (as a state school) and big tech (Amazon, Facebook, Google, Instagram, Snapchat) are private companies!  So you have your thesis and your examples exactly inverted.

Whether we agree with your analysis or not, public universities are government entities whereas tech companies are private organizations. Plus, nobody is forcing you to subsidize social media companies, but your tax dollars already help to pay for public schools... so you have a material interest in how they are run and whether or not they violate your Constitutional rights.

One more thing: "if you are not doing anything wrong, who cares?"  Do you hold this view about cameras in your bathroom and bedroom? This is the kind of reasoning that causes people to forfeit their Fourth Amendment rights to begin with.  Individuals have and should maintain some expectation of privacy and, at minimum, a notice when they are being recorded so they can choose to discontinue that interaction.
August 25, 2019 at 10:02am
@August 24, 2019 at 2:28pm - Yes they are. ASU PD is also being used by the higher ups as “heavies” as well to intimidate people. The newer the officer, the more of a “heavy” they are.
August 25, 2019 at 9:29am
Please tell us more about the surveillance: who, how, where. I've had a few experiences that have made me suspect ASU is over the line with invading employees' privacy.
August 25, 2019 at 7:43am
8:24 @2:28 - You sound so paranoid. Do you really think they are watching/listening to you? Why would they waste their time watching you? What are you doing that makes you so worried about them watching? Just an FYI... In the private sector, you usually are watched. Walk down the street in Denver, you are being watched. I don’t think any one is watching you or cares what you are doing but, if you are not doing anything wrong, who cares? There is a digital footprint of almost everything you do both inside and outside of work and I guarantee you, you are watched far less at work than you are in your off time. Amazon, Facebook, Google, Instagram, Snapchat, those are the ones watching, not ASU. The airlines are installing cameras in the seat backs to watch you. Heck, the title of the webpage is “Watching Adams” You are being watched and quite honestly, get ready to be watched more and more. An unfortunate side effect of socialism and the government having control of more is that they will also have to watch more so get ready because when we win, there is going to be more, not less. You are correct... 1984... it is all about control.
August 25, 2019 at 6:36am
Dear Dodie,

I think Dr. Lovell’s visit to you was a threat in and of itself. She visits no one else on campus, other than her minions in Richardson Hall. She keeps those folks around because she can bully them into submission. Those she can’t bully into submission she bullies in other ways. Let’s see what she has in store for you.

She is Dr. MClure in a different sheep’s costume.
August 24, 2019 at 6:13pm
I have thought about this throughout the week. I have shared it with a few on campus. Is it a threat, warning, or just random? The following link was sent to two people. It was from Dr. Lovell, the same day she came to visit me. In the subject line: (FYI), in the body only the link:
Abolish the Business Major!

- Dodie Day
August 24, 2019 at 2:28pm
Higher enrollment is not the main focus of ASU; it’s surveillance. You’re being watched, people. There’s people listening in on your conversations, everything. People watching camera footage in their offices, at home, etc. You’re being spied on, preyed upon through the camera eye and exploited. It’s 1984 at ASU. They’re watching the rank and file mostly. Don’t even trust the privacy of your offices to make sure your fly isn’t down. It’s sick.
August 24, 2019 at 10:05am
In a previous comment, I suggested we should drop the evening class experiment or do a better job of marketing them (because I have yet to hear about a single community member enrolling for these classes). Now I'm teaching a "themed course" which I love, and I think the theme idea is great. However, polling students in my section and another, a very small percentage (10-15%) had any idea they had registered for a themed course or that themes existed.

I'm sure part of the problem is because many in my class are first-year students. I also believe word will get out over the years as more students have experience with themed courses. Nevertheless, I'm curious about whether there is a plan to communicate / market themes, themed courses, night classes, Saturday classes. These are desperate times, enrollment and retention are everyone's job... but they are some people's jobs more than others.

- Jeff Elison
August 23, 2019 at 8:15am
It looks like the Board learned something from the Beverlee McClure fiasco and beefed up Dr. Lovell's contract in case they have to fire her, too. This contract is more specific about what ASU pays if the contract is terminated under various conditions.
August 22, 2019 at 6:10pm
It would be interesting to look at how much bad debt there is. If the bad debt is in a program that has revenue sharing, the dollars are taken from the revenue sharing budget to cover the bad debt. Not many programs have revenue sharing to pull from.
August 22, 2019 at 5:46pm
August 22 at 4:40PM - You are 100% correct. I have stated more than once we are doing a disservice by admitting students who need to take developmental courses. Those students would be better served by a community college. Does ASU care about the student or the dollar?
August 22, 2019 at 4:40pm
August 22, 2019 at 8:41am – Your “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” perspective is well-taken but doesn't fully capture the systemic problem of which Adams State is a part.

We all know ASU has some of the lowest graduation rates in Colorado and in the entire country.  It has been named a “drop-out factory” in national studies of higher education.  The college math requirement is among the reasons – in no small part because ASU accepts students who weren't ready to begin with and then has insufficient and/or ineffective resources to close the skills gap.  And yes, K-12 school districts also share some of the blame here because many high school graduates leave with a diploma (and sometimes at the top of their class), yet are not prepared for college level work in many areas - according to ACCUPLACER testing.

But this attitude of “it's not our problem, it's your problem” is a fundamental mistake for anyone working at ASU to make.  If the school is going to survive as a relevant and viable rural university, it must work with the student population it has.  If ASU cannot reasonably accommodate students to help them meet the requirements to attain a degree (within four years or six years), it has no business admitting those students to begin with.  When so many students drop out of the university after ASU recruited and enrolled them, the failure isn't merely that of the student but also of the institution itself.  By the numbers, ASU is setting up the majority of its students for failure... and deflecting the problem back onto the students it serves is a losing proposition for everyone.
August 22, 2019 at 8:41am
8-21 @5:54 - College is not for everyone. Maybe TSJC for some remedial math work if you are not at a college level. Making the classes easier only diminishes the value of your degree. I question if the college classes are too difficult or were your High School classes too easy? It is not the professor's fault that you are not at that level yet; they are just teaching to where you need to be. The tutoring is available so the only one here to blame is you and the lack of time you put into that help. If you are not ready for college, then do the extra work to get yourself ready. You are the one in charge of your education. 

I think the professors at ASU are one of its best attributes. I think most of them do a pretty good job and they care. I struggle to believe that the resources made available to you, for math, are not enough.
August 21, 2019 at 5:54pm
The math department is terrible. We need to clean it out like they did with the education department. The teachers seem to take pride in making their gen ed level classes hard to pass and don’t understand that not everyone has a doctorates in math. If you can’t get rid of these terrible teachers, make math available for a year long course rather than just a semester. Tutoring can only do so much, and these classes have so much content that not all students can keep up with. This needs to be fixed.
August 21, 2019 at 7:31am
I attended all the Campus Updates, but I was unaware that an occupied position was eliminated. What does the general fund have to do with it? Don't those jobs count? On a similar note, meaning hiding stuff, there was no mention of enrollment numbers at the all-campus meeting last week. I believe that's a first. The rumors aren't good, maybe that's why.
August 20, 2019 at 8:29pm
No offense to Dodie, but I find it somewhat politically obtuse for the president to be on the defensive with an administrative assistant, especially knowing it would be reported out on this website. I wonder who exactly she is trying to convince about her “honesty”? Seems a little McClure-like.
August 20, 2019 at 1:09pm
President Lovell came by my office today with a printout that was used at several of the "Campus Updates" which listed a $45,000 amount. Our conversation was professional and respectful. She stated that this was the eliminated position. Out of respect to the person holding the position details were not given at the "Campus Updates" In the President's opinion, she did not lie. For those who attended the "Campus Updates," were you aware that an occupied position was eliminated? The eliminated position was not paid from the General Fund. People interpret things differently and the truth falls somewhere in the middle.

- Dodie Day
August 18, 2019 at 11:20pm
Re: August 18 @ 6:59pm - For advice on how to properly and effectively teach too many students in one class, go see Ellen Novotny. She’s infamous for teaching hundreds at a time while earning $142,000 per year doing so. What, you say? You’re not being paid near that? Well, I guess your hubby isn’t demanding such (nor being held accountable). Good luck!

It’s a brave new world at ASU.
August 18, 2019 at 6:59pm
Can anyone shed light on what the class capacity can be for an on-campus adjunct? I taught years ago and when there was a certain number, they were required to split it into 2 sections. This is ridiculous!
August 14, 2019 at 7:05pm
No, administration will not cancel the classes because they are committed to offering them. I also would like to mention that, although the ASU president stated several times that no positions were cut, she lied. I know of one position that was cut in the School of Business.

- Dodie Day
August 14, 2019 at 8:01am

RE: August 13, 2019 at 8:12pm

My understanding is that evening classes are an attempt to attract community members, not a bad idea. We offered PSYC 101 last semester during the evening. Not a single community member enrolled and enrollment was much lower than a normal daytime class - like 12 vs. 35-45. I talked to a couple of other profs who taught evening classes and they said they only had traditional students. We should chalk this up as a failed experiment and quit doing it, or we should identify what needs to be done to make it work, like marketing evening classes effectively.

- Jeff Elison
August 14, 2019 at 6:42am
Dear Dodie,

So will the upper admin require the class be cancelled given all of the new policy decisions that put money before students?
August 13, 2019 at 8:12pm
I am still in awe that it was mandated, from the top, that we had to offer ECON 201, our only Gen Ed class, one night a week. The enrollment is 8. If offered during normal school hours, there would be a full class.

- Dodie Day
August 12, 2019 at 5:05pm
Just wanted to give a heads-up on the online Masters in Cultural Resource Management program. There's ALOT of nonsense going on and they are losing lots of staff and up until about 3 weeks ago they only had the program director for 5 programs teaching the CRM program. Lots of upheaval, disgruntled master's students and I myself have transferred to a different program and have chosen to eat the money I lost with their ineptitude in hopes that my wasted time, money, and income potential can be salvaged in the long run. The program is in shambles.
August 11, 2019 at 4:27pm
@August 10, 2019 at 6:22am - Facilities Services has not had good leadership in years. Last year, they got a new director and were put under Housing. How discouraging for one department to go through so many changes year after year only to get a new director in Wade Smith only to hear how many trips they’ve paid for him or how many times they paid to have his wife flown in then see him drive 1/8 of a mile into work in a brand new Jeep with all the bells and whistles only to turn around and get rid of it to buy matching vehicles for wifey and he while many of FS have to work multiple jobs to survive. The man has no knowledge whatsoever to run FS and was merely Del Tondo’s pull-string doll. He worries more about collared shirts than he does about the FS personnel standing under a tree by a crosswalk just talking for an hour. 

Now under Kevin Daniel, there’s always hope of positive change. Will it happen that way? Maybe so... maybe not... Will FS also have to answer to people like Chris Olance, Pat Roybal, Tony Maestas?
August 10, 2019 at 8:55pm
@August 9, 2019 @ 8:33pm - Why even state that here and sign your name to it and then become secretive as to why you think that? Also then act like whoever asked why you have that opinion may or may not be worthy to know why?

I don’t know if Lovell is a loose canon or not, but it’s yucky to come on a forum and tarnish a person's character and not think you have an obligation to explain yourself.

If there’s something wrong, state it. Otherwise, you appear as the problem.
August 10, 2019 at 8:24pm
Just saw the Director of Financial Aid position posted on the employment website. Does anyone know what happened to Phil? Has he retired?
August 10, 2019 at 6:22am
I am really curious about the current restructuring...Facilities will be moved out of Student Services and into a new Unit that will be called Infrastructure and Resources, under Kevin Daniel in Computing Services. He will also supervise HR. If Kevin Daniel is this great leader, more than just CTO, then change his title & make sure that no one assumes two big departments - least of all HR - are under "computing services."
August 9, 2019 at 8:33pm
If you want an answer to my comment, you can find me in the School of Business at Adams State University. If I feel you are a person I want to speak with, I will.

- Dodie Day
August 9, 2019 at 6:57pm
Kathy Rogers was required to step down by her new boss. Why do you say Lovell is a loose canon?
August 8, 2019 at 8:38pm
Aaron Abeyta is leaving ASU too?
August 8, 2019 at 9:15am
ASU H.E.A.L. (Higher Education Always Lacking)
August 7, 2019 at 9:33pm
If there IS a HEAL program.
August 7, 2019 at 7:50pm
Dr. Lovell is a loose cannon. Morale is at a low. The BoT gave her a fantastic deal. 5 years, one year sabbatical, and come back to be tenured in HEAL. We need to take a vote of no confidence. Kathy Rogers is jumping ship and Cleave Simpson is stepping down as chair so he can just leave when his term is done. Oh yay, we are screaming.

- Dodie Day
August 7, 2019 at 12:55pm
That’s because ASU treats the promoting of people of color like gentrification.
August 7, 2019 at 10:08am
Once again a person of color doesn’t get a promotion in Facilities Services.
August 2, 2019 at 6:24pm
Re: July 26 @ 9:02 - Because Heather Heersink and Tracy Rogers are incompetent. And I’m beginning to believe our new prez is too for keeping those two around. But I’m sure she has her $250k/year contract for 5 years (that’s the word on the street).
July 26, 2019 at 9:02am
Can anyone explain why ASU is incapable of getting us our yearly contracts on time? It's not like the date is a moving target.
July 2, 2019 at 7:23pm
Maybe I'm being too sensitive, but when you are looking into coming to a college, does everyone get your personal info? I think it's in bad taste to spread people's business everywhere. Social media makes it too easy for a few words to get everywhere.

- Lilac Girl
June 13, 2019 at 9:26am
It looks like McClure and ASU got off easy for calling Ledonne a terrorist in the Valley Courier:

"A federal judge awarded a Muslim-American radio host $4.1 million in monetary damages Wednesday after he successfully sued a neo-Nazi website operator who falsely accused him of terrorism."  Neo-Nazi website hit with $4.1 million defamation penalty
May 29, 2019 at 7:43pm
Yes, five, a revolving door. Unfortunately the two best either didn't want it or were chased away by the wicked witch of the southwest.
May 28, 2019 at 5:01pm
Soooooo... Is that five VPs in as many years? I’ve lost track.
May 18, 2019 at 12:14pm
Go ASU chess team
May 17, 2019 at 5:00pm
How unbelievable that the BoT didn’t learn their lesson with McClure’s multi-year contract. I don’t know if it’s more infuriating or sad. SMDH...
May 17, 2019 at 10:25am
This whole site is Libel

----Editor's Response: While it doesn't appear you have a very strong understanding of how libel laws actually work, you are certainly free to file a lawsuit and see what a judge thinks about your claim that a public interest website publishing news and opinion about a state university and its employees is engaging in libel.  The ACLU of Colorado was well aware of this website while representing Danny Ledonne and defended his First Amendment right to publish critical information about the university's administration. But perhaps you have a command of U.S. libel law that exceeds the ACLU? There's only one way to find out...
May 7, 2019 at 10:04pm
The Management Corner: Stop Silencing the Skeptics
May 6, 2019 at 8:08am
Looking at the Faculty CUPA data posted here makes one problem apparent: moving goal posts. We would expect average comparison salaries to go up, but what happens when they go down? It makes it look like people's percentage of CUPA increased when in fact their salary is unchanged. Faculty in that situation probably won't get raises for even longer now. Has this affected you?
March 31, 2019 at 5:14pm
Congratulations to Danny Ledonne for being accepted into a whole list of law schools. Now he can continue to protect the world from the likes of Beverlee Trump.
March 28, 2019 at 6:56am
Re: March 27 @9am - One cannot defend incompetence, greed or corruption.
March 27, 2019 at 9:00am
Anyone notice that no one is defending Heather Heersink, Karla Hardesty, or Tracy Rogers? The real question is what connection do they have to the trustees? Why do the trustees feel comfortable with ASU operating in such dysfunction?
March 15, 2019 at 9:41pm
March 15 @ 11:29am - I would reframe your assessment of “no cuts this fiscal year” as “no additional cuts...” I believe many, if not all, of the cuts Nehring implemented WERE for this current fiscal year. But, you are correct. Expect cuts effective July 1, August 1, September 1 and October 1 – depending on your contract type and funding source.

But the idiots like Karla, who couldn’t recruit her way out of a paper bag, will keep her position, salary AND $5k+ raise for non-performance. Idiots like Heather Heersink, who couldn't compute her way out of a paper bag: same, except her $16k raise. Idiots like Tracy Rogers, whose “alliance” with Novotny got us into this mess to begin.

If Lovell doesn’t start figuring it out soon... heaven help us all!
March 15, 2019 at 11:29am
So, the hidden message from the campus updates is that staffing cuts won't be done this FISCAL year, but will happen in the Fall. It is dependent on State funding as well as the expected enrollment drop off for new students, but anyone who believes that cuts aren't on the agenda need to listen more closely. This administration has repeatedly said, "No cuts this year", conveniently leaving out that they mean the fiscal year. Withholding information is exactly the same as lying.
March 5, 2019 at 6:09am
A new position that reports to the president has been created called the Chief Gifts Officer that is in charge of bringing in large dollars from donors.

I am noticing the direction Dr. Lovell is taking... creation of new programs and more aggressively going after donations.

I think these methods are a much better strategy than starting crazy fights with community members. The only thing I’d sure like to see is addressing the ineffective people in admissions/enrollment. Surely she must have plans to address this?!
March 2, 2019 at 8:15pm
Regarding a recent publication in Courier: Faculty Trustee Dr. Robert Benson said morale among faculty had jumped significantly for the most part after the selection of a new president. “That was huge,” he said.

I have the following questions to Dr. Benson: 
- What measures of morale were used? 
- What research design was used? Pre and post? Ex post facto? 
- At what level significance was tested? 

If Dr. Benson feels he cannot provide answers, maybe he can answer this question using his personal empiricist perspective: 

- What was the significance of him holding a sign "Standing Strong for Dr. McClure" in 2016? 

That was huge. Indeed, Rob.
March 1, 2019 at 7:31am
Can we please stop using the term "cautious optimism" to describe ASU? It's such a veiled way of saying "we don't know what the hell is happening or how to fix it but we're going to smile all the way to end!"
February 28, 2019 at 7:47am
I think the "zero-sum" article in the Colorado Sun is the most hopeful thing I've ever read for Adams State since our enrollment started to decline in 2012. The unfairness of the funding model for Adams State and Fort Lewis is mentioned three times. The author understands our mission and our plight:

"The state’s largest schools are growing. Small schools are shrinking. And because the formula is enrollment-driven, it’s resulted in more money for selective research universities, such as the CU Boulder and Colorado State University, and less for community colleges and smaller rural institutions, such as Adams State University and Fort Lewis College, which predominantly serve the populations the state wants to help."

"The situation is one that lawmakers have tried to mitigate through year-to-year budget adjustments, stepping in to boost funding to smaller schools like Adams State and Fort Lewis.

But Morris, the higher education official, says overruling the formula every year defeats the purpose of having one in the first place. In an ideal world, state officials want colleges to have a stable, transparent and predictable revenue stream."

Trouble is, about 90 percent of the money the state gives out through the funding formula is based on student volume, according to a Lumina Foundation Strategy Labs study. That means enrollment changes at larger schools like CU Boulder, which has more than 29,000 students, play a much bigger role in how dollars are divvied up than what’s happening at a place like Adams State, which has just 2,600 students."

The fact that Colorado is 47th in the country for higher ed funding is embarrassing and depressing. However, it sounds like President Lovell's and Adams State's greater presence in Denver may be paying off.

- Jeff Elison

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