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DOCUMENTS: ASU 2020-2021 Salary Data
Fall 2020 Census Report
Temporary Reduction in Employer Defined Contribution Pension Plan Contribution
Faculty CUPA Evaluation 2019-2020
Administrative CUPA Evaluation 2019-2020
NEWS: Colorado universities and colleges could face more cuts if state doesn’t restore funding, leaders say
Moody’s revises Adams State University, CO’s outlook to stable
Why COVID-19 has made college application season even more stressful this year
Report Warns Against Higher-Education Cuts to Balance State Budget
Cutting the In-Person Semester Short
ASU reverts to online learning only
March 3, 2021 at 11:30pm Feb 19- I can agree with much of what you said but 1) bullying is never okay, and yes, it’s bullying if you are calling people out on an anonymous post with no context to your claims and no room for improvement on feedback because it’s anonymous and catty instead of helpful. 2) calling college students who are learning skills “kids” or “children” shows your true colors 3) I’m assuming who you are, and I’ll remind you that not everyone is privileged to leave a job to go home to their parents to flip the bill, so be kind before you judge others. “Too busy watering my grass to look at yours” may be something to keep in mind. 4) life is hard. There is no reason to make life harder for others. You have no idea what others have been through. 5) be a part of the change or let go. You have already left, so now, let go.
March 1, 2021 at 12:26pm Feb 21, 2021 11:18 - Well sexism isn't rampant in my life, trust me. But there are patterns of behavior that you see over and over again in the workplace! Check out www.bullyonline.org.
February 25, 2021 at 10:57am @ February 19, 2021 at 5:04pm - Did you have an experience where the PD refused you an on campus escort? Honestly, I am shocked that someone was refused an escort. I would think you should probably talk to the chief about that because I am pretty sure part of the job is escorting residents on campus. Why else would ASU have a PD if they are not there to make the campus community feel safe and to protect the campus and students?
February 22, 2021 at 11:25am Toot Toot!! Go Meagan!
February 21, 2021 at 4:00pm Just remember: Meagan Smith started the "signing your comment" movement. Because I am not a coward. You're welcome!
February 21, 2021 at 11:18am Whoa February 20 @ 3:26! Let’s be cognizant of broad brush strokes or stereotypes of specific groups of people. Would hate for you to come across as sexist and misogynistic. Geesh!
February 20, 2021 at 3:26pm @Dodie Day about Lovell targeting individuals. Personality in the workplace: Targeting those who tell you 'no' or those who say they have a problem to fix. Some react terribly, terrifiedly, by any challenge and don't see the problem as anything other than the messenger. This is all too common in women, AND they often rise quite high.
February 19, 2021 at 5:04pm Where to begin... GAB - Underfunded - Ran by CHILDREN - Disorganized - Incredible turnover rate (wtf is with this position?!) Jeni Carter - Unavailable - Unmotivated (unless it comes to funds) - Spends less hours in the office than I call my daughter President Lovell - Flakey - Remembers her Starbucks points but forgets concerning IMPORTANT emails - Dismisses student concerns AS&F - A 6 person team only holding up by 2 kids (Is it that hard?) - Lead by a single intern hired at the beginning of the fall semester for only one AY (excluding Ken, who Adams State will miss) - There is no hope for student life to live on for another year regardless of COVID circumstances. Funding - As per this site, we can see that Football - a million dollar 2017 - 2018 business - Using student fees to cover for student-athlete SCHOLARSHIPS Housing - Sub-par - Cold - Grossly outdated - Poorly maintained ASU PD - Money hungry - Pseudo-super heroes (refuse to escort residents back to apartments if they feel unsafe) - Understaffed yet have enough money to get more equipment? (But then still asked for student funds) Athletics - Money pit for sub-par results - Greedy and unwilling to compromise for the betterment of the academic departments of the institution Faculty Senate - Faculty Tenure Policy - BS - CM
February 19, 2021 at 9:44am Campus cops make way more than the average professor! What is wrong with this place? We have a local police department, but we don't have a local alternative to the dedicated professors.
February 19, 2021 at 6:31am You tell them Dodie, aside from you and Jeff, hardly anyone, including myself, has the balls to sign their names. I may not always (or ever) agree with Dodie but I have a ton of respect for her in that she has the balls to sign their names. She is the last person on this forum that should “give it a rest.” Plus, if you notice, all Dodie’s posts come outside work hours, which again, I can not say for everyone else. Props from me on this Dodie!
February 18, 2021 at 11:55pm Give 'em hell, Dodie!
February 18, 2021 at 8:51pm Whow, sign your comment. Be brave and stand behind your comment. Your comment has no value. - Dodie Day
February 17, 2021 at 8:55pm "Positive thinking brings positive results." Ha ha ha ha ha, you have me rolling on the floor. You might as well prescribe soma. "Just be happy, quit protesting, administration has your best interests at heart. What comes next won't hurt a bit."
February 17, 2021 at 8:19pm Who agrees that the appropriate reference for "Watching Adams" should be changed to "Watching Adams by Dodie Day?" Give it a break, Dodie, and support your leader. Focus on doing the work you were hired to do. Positive thinking brings about positive results.
February 17, 2021 at 7:24pm I am not defecting, just pointing out. There are classified employees, tenure track faculty, and those at will not performing. We have a president who targets individuals. Thank the universe we have classified and tenure to protect us from her wrath. - Dodie Day
February 17, 2021 at 8:50am Dodie, my first reaction before I finished reading your post was you probably have more protection than we do. Just like you, tenured faculty can get bad evaluations, be required to come up with a plan, and eventually be dismissed if we don't improve (post-tenure review process). You ask how much damage students need to endure before that happens, and the answer is probably a whole lot. Tenure was designed to protect the public good. It is supposed to prevent administrators from firing professors because they do controversial research (gun violence, pornography, climate change) or teach controversial topics or points of view. Imagine the damage that could be done from suppression of climate science research or gun violence. Oh wait, the U.S. government has done that at times, pandering to the gun and oil industries. See what I mean about the public good? Also protected: speaking out against insane conspiracy theories like QAnon, faked school shootings, Trump's stolen election, COVID isn't real conspiracy, all the anti-vaccine crap, and even teaching evolution is controversial for some people.
February 17, 2021 at 7:30am Dodie, this wasn’t a conversation about faculty. Stop deflecting and stay focused.
February 16, 2021 at 7:32pm Yes, the classified system has flaws. I do feel safe. I am performing, my supervisor appreciates me. As a classified employee, I have almost as much protection as a tenured faculty member. Classified employees can receive a poor evaluation. A plan is put in place. Tenured faculty, stay until they leave on their own or pass away. How much damage do students need to endure taking a class from a tenured faculty member, because no one will intervene? - Dodie Day
February 15, 2021 at 9:07pm February 15 @ 7:46 - I think I was pretty clear...seniority doesn’t mean equity. Why are you asking redundant questions? There are a number in the classified system would be fired for incompetence if it were easy to do. That’s not equitable, either. Perhaps I hit a nerve with you?
February 15, 2021 at 7:46pm @ February 15, 2021 at 6:33pm - Call it what you want, but the classified system ensures that seniority matters. It also provides the protections that allow people like Dodie to speak their mind without the fear of retaliation. Are you suggesting that the classified system is not fair and equitable?
February 15, 2021 at 6:33pm Well...seniority — however defined — certainly guarantees a lack of equity!
February 15, 2021 at 12:59pm To February 14, 2021 at 7:30pm: Seniority.
February 14, 2021 at 7:30pm Somebody needs to do an investigation. Tell me why are Custodian I’s the only group of people that when they have company time can’t take it when they want? They’re always told to take their comp time on Mondays and Tuesdays.
February 10, 2021 at 7:01pm Not sure if it will make a change. I have asked Governor Polis to investigate ASU. We live under a dictatorship, not an army. Yes people. - Dodie Day
February 9, 2021 at 9:31pm Colleges vowed a safer spring, but then students, and variants, arrived. "The American College Health Association ... issuing guidelines in December. “For the spring, we specifically recommend that all students are tested on arrival and twice a week thereafter if possible,” said Gerri Taylor, a student health expert who serves as co-chair of the organization’s Covid-19 task force."
February 9, 2021 at 2:49pm I find it in extremely poor taste that nothing has come out from administration about the passing of former trustee Val Vigil on February 5, 2021. Mr. Vigil was a long time supporter of Adams and served our institution well. I know it’s difficult and time consuming to copy and paste information from an obit and blast it campus-wide, but gosh, seems like an appropriate thing to do. Even the Denver news stations reported it.
February 5, 2021 at 8:25am To be honest, the environment sounds like what happens when you stuff rats in a barrel and then remove the food. Yes, the above comment was on the board, Jan 20th! And after attending Adams, and reading this site, that part of the statement is true. Bashing the board though, well, you would know a lot less of what is going on if you hadn't read it, now wouldn't you? People will say things anonymously they won't say at other moments. The problems of the school are still the same, does anyone want to share the sobriquet they started for Lovell? Superstorm Beverly moved on. And Lovell? As for the solution to Adams's problems financially? You almost always have to cut expenses. Perhaps they could sell Adams as a satellite school to one of the state schools? Nah, maybe not. The isolation of the area also causes a lot of trouble. Working two jobs is a problem because of the small area, so taking a job at a normal market value might be harder, especially if you move to the area with a wife/husband who also needs a professional position. Maybe, you might be better off if you hire a Jean a la Billy Jack, to make the place a Freedom School! - bellisimma
February 1, 2021 at 7:37pm Masood, I agree. Ken is an asset to ASU. It would be difficult to find a person more dedicated to Adams State and its students. - Dodie Day
January 31, 2021 at 5:06pm I'm surprised our COVID Dashboard says only 4 cases for last week. Dozens of students have told me they are quarantined.
January 30, 2021 at 6:52pm I am extremely saddened to hear of the situation with Ken. When I first came for an on-campus interview for the director of student engagement and success position in April, 2008 he was at the airport to receive me in his truck and when he dropped me at the Best Western motel he gave me a complete pack of bottled water as that was the time when water was contaminated in Alamosa. Later we became good friends, and we always enjoyed being in his and his wife’s company. I know when he came to my office in the SUB in June 2015 to hand me the letter from the administration that they were eliminating my position, he was uncomfortable, and I sensed sadness in him. He was just following orders from Beverlee McClure. I wish him and his family the very best as always. - S. Masood Ahmad Director of Student Engagement and Success (2008-2015)
January 30, 2021 at 4:53pm Yes, it is true, Ken is being forced out. He is constantly being subjected to harassment by Lovell. She has a history of harassment. No one will speak out because who do you go to? I am going to send a letter to Governor Polis. I want our board of trustees and Lovell reviewed. - Dodie Day
January 28, 2021 at 8:32pm Lovell has created a hostile working environment at ASU. Why would Ken retire? He hasn't reached retirement age. He only has 27 years in. Lovell has created a hostile working environment for him. She thinks she's steps in front of everyone else. The truth will prevail.
January 28, 2021 at 6:23am There will be an all campus meeting today at 3:30pm. We may be told that Ken is going to retire at the end of April. That may be true but not the complete truth. One can only put up with so much of Lovell's BS. Ken loves Adams State and wouldn't be leaving if Lovell was not ASU's President.
January 23, 2021 at 1:17pm What happened with Ken Marquez? Did he retire? Resign?
January 22, 2021 at 9:06pm Well, Ken Marquez has had enough of Lovell. She is poison. Who is next, anyone not a yes person? Maybe the new VPAA.
January 20, 2021 at 6:38pm Well ain’t that special! Someone who has never worked under this vile leadership knows exactly what our problems are—we the faculty and staff are greedy! Piece of advice “Dr. know it all”, until you’ve lived it, you don’t have an opinion grounded in fact. Period.
January 20, 2021 at 10:59am I am a faculty member at another university (far from ASU). I occasionally dream about moving out to the SLV to live/retire, and that dream also includes an interest in teaching at ASU (I enjoy teaching and learning). Sometime in the past ten years I came across this site (WA). I check back from time to time to see what is going on at ASU and the SLV (since I don't know anyone there). I realize that WA is a somewhat jaundiced view of ASU, but you can learn a lot about an institution from this "fly on the wall" perspective. Unfortunately, the perspective hasn't changed over the years. That's not entirely true - the situation has gotten worse. To be honest, the environment sounds like what happens when you stuff rats in a barrel and then remove the food. Yes, ASU has a bad hand to play for many reasons, and it hasn't gotten any easier over the last few years (2020 especially). I think everyone understands that. The big picture (about the money, because it seems that all you talk about on WA is money) is fairly simple - revenues are insufficient to cover costs. And you can't fix a revenue problem by firing a custodian here or an art professor there. I am not trying to be a smart-a**. I realize that there are many intelligent, informed people out there trying to work the problem. But...there seems to be a collective feeling on this site, trumpeted for all to see, that the ship is sinking. You continue to snatch the life preservers out of each other's hands as you struggle to be the last person who drowns. The way you talk about each other (students, staff, administrators, faculty) is just heartbreaking. I have come to see the same phenomenon at my own institution over the last few years - our collective sense of shared mission and purpose has withered under a steady stream of social media invective. We have stopped talking to each other and have retreated to our own camps for consolation. I fear that we are like ASU, only some years removed. Some of our faculty think a union is the solution. Some think our administration is to blame. To me, the solution is clear. ASU has built a cost structure that it can no longer support. From this point forward, there are only two options: reduce costs, or find a way to meaningfully increase revenues. I read a lot about "this person" and "that person" on this site, what he or she makes, how worthless they are...but have you ever discussed (really discussed) the product that you are offering? I know that most people think they are great teachers...but are you really? What about your programs? Some think that the most important thing about students is that they learn how to write in MLA format. Does an ASU education pull students in, or is that just inertia? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing... If ever there was a time for transformational thinking (and doing) with regard to the post-secondary experience, this is it. ASU has an opportunity to reinvent more than just a revenue model. If you really care about your students (like everyone on this site professes to do), then you will find a way to turn ASU into the kind of place that everyone will be proud of. It is going to take a new sense of mission and new ways of thinking. It is going to take humility and conversation and grace. Mostly grace. It has to be organic, from the faculty and staff and students up (sadly, there is no hero-administrator just over the hill in Denver waiting to charge in and save the day). Stop waiting and get to work. Build it yourselves and they will come. And then, hopefully, someone will close this awful site down.
January 18, 2021 at 7:27pm So what happened at the “spring fling”? Needless to say, I was busy.
January 18, 2021 at 12:00pm "Adams State Campus Community - Don't forget the Welcome Back Spring Fling scheduled for January 18 @ 3 pm." Wonder what are wonderful lack of a leader will update us on... Campus is already infected with COVID-19 from the students that arrived on last Monday prior to testing this past weekend. Makes sense? Why on Earth would you bring students to campus, then have them test, then start classes two days later? Does this make sense? Most colleges and universities are having faculty, staff and students test 7 days prior to arriving on campus! Prez Lovell - you need to start leading and become a leader! Take some etiquette courses and learn how to treat your ALL of your employees (stop favoring - we see who those puppets are) look and see how you treat our community! Some of us are born and raised here - some of us have lived here for many years and consider this our HOME! You are destroying the SLV Community! You have no representation here! We all know that you live in Aurora and would rather stay there and call that place your home - if that is your choice ~ please by all means ~ pack up and leave! Reside on Lakeview Drive (Southshore neighborhood). Maybe you can do more for that community. Signed, Lost me day 1 (too)!
January 15, 2021 at 9:42am Thanks Jeff I appreciate the information you have provided. I wish the school would look at some of these position that have extremely high CUPA.
January 14, 2021 at 6:53pm Responding again to January 13, 2021 at 9:14am: You wrote "I feel if the focus is on the students everything else will fall into place." And again, most of us faculty are always focused on students, but it never shows in pay. Salaries have been incredibly low, as in some of the worst in the U.S., since before I arrived 10 years ago. Things didn't "fall into place" when enrollment was at record highs around 2011. We saw no significant raises. - Jeff Elison
January 14, 2021 at 6:10pm RE: January 13, 2021 at 9:14am I think there is more to graduation rates than just professors vs. administration, but I don't have time to address them right now. I'll just give you one example: I bet most students at CU and definitely at DU don't have to work or help support their families; many of ours do. That's a huge burden that detracts from their time on academics, and in some cases it requires them to drop out - for a while or forever, or "a while" becomes forever. Most professors I know work their butts off to help students. We teach because we love it. In a previous life, I was a software engineer at Intel Corp. and Hewlett-Packard. I made more money for less work. I enjoy my job here much more. I'm not in it for the money. However, it does hurt and feels like we are underappreciated when we see what colleagues at other schools make. It's also difficult when some of us are forced to work well past 65 just to afford retirement. Apparently, "society" values Facebook, Twitter, and Netflix more than education. RE: January 13, 2021 at 6:28pm Thanks for the clarification. I can certainly understand and appreciate everything in this most recent post. - Jeff Elison
January 13, 2021 at 6:28pm Mr. Ellison, I think you lost the point that she never once has involved herself over the past year in the community struggle. It is disappointing. Also, the point was that there was violence close to home. Many of us were terrified of losing our businesses to perceived violence etc. she showed no leadership.
January 13, 2021 at 9:14am I’m not sure of what the current climate is at ASU, but are professors just worried about there salaries? Or should the focus be on provide the correct services to help students graduate? I feel if the focus is on the students everything else will fall into place. Is the rigor and appropriate for the type of student that we serve? Who is responsible for the low graduation rates the professors or the administration? These things create a domino effect.
January 13, 2021 at 8:11am Yet another record day for COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. yesterday (over 4,300), and the seven day average for new cases (over 250,000) was 50% higher than when we went online in November. Why is ASU bringing students back to Alamosa and campus? Who wrote ASU administration doesn't care about the local community?
January 12, 2021 at 11:30am Another "what about?" All this talk about percentages and CUPA can be a bit abstract. I was asked about dollars. Looking at the half dozed positions, closest to 82% of CUPA, they range from about $8,000 - $20,000 per year short of the CUPA average. $12,000 is fairly representative. Multiply that over a 20 year-career: Your pay will be $240,000 less. At our *old* retirement contribution rate, you will be short an additional $44,000, plus interest. Would $300,000 make your life and retirement more comfortable? Things are worse if we use comparable master's granting institutions from the AAUP data (CUPA institutions are a bit arbitrary). Using associate professors as a middle ground (things are considerably worse for full profs), we average about $25,000 less per year. Multiply that over a 20-year career: Your pay will be $500,000 less. Retirement will be $92,000 less, plus interest. I have to prep for classes, so I'm unlikely to run more analyses in response to requests (unless they are too intriguing). All the data is publicly available, mostly here, through HR, or on the AAUP website. - Jeff Elison
January 12, 2021 at 11:07am Of course the "but what abouts" are popping up regarding my salary analysis... thanks for the interest. Since Counselor Ed makes up 16.7% of the listed faculty, how do things look for the rest of us? The 15 listed Counselor Ed faculty average 100.4% of CUPA. Again, this could be dependent on the comparison groups HR chose, they teach graduate courses, etc. The rest of us faculty average just under 82%. So, updated: - An average of 82% of CUPA for the 75 faculty not in Counselor Ed - An average of 85.0% of CUPA for the 90 faculty positions listed - An average of 100.4% of CUPA for the 15 faculty in Counselor Ed - An average of 86.2% of CUPA for the 101 non-athletics administrative positions listed - An average of 92.9% of CUPA for the 30 athletics positions listed What's our mission again? I can't tell, does this say something about the relative importance of training athletes vs. educating students? - Jeff Elison
January 12, 2021 at 10:01am Dear "You Lost Me," I don't have enough information to evaluate the validity of your claims about Dr. Lovell's concern for the community. I'll take you at your word, especially since you are expressing an opinion. However, you really confused me with: "Please spare us the grief over what happened at the capital as if it somehow is different than the violence that happened in our own town that you said nothing about." The two are very different. One involved sedition and an attack on democracy. And further confused me with: "your political beliefs" and "And for goodness sake, show some class and rise above the political conversation. How about model acceptance of things you don’t like rather than just demanding people do what you tell them? Do you really think people will just change their minds because YOU tell them to. Quit lecturing and be a leader that lives it rather than lectures it." Rise above conversations about democracy and the Constitution? Are those not your "political beliefs"? Acceptance for sedition and political violence? I'm just about a free-speech absolutist; I support the rights of the peaceful protesters (if not the content), but sedition and violence are too much. State and federal laws were broken in a way that threatened democracy - end of story. Signed, Confused (AKA Jeff Elison)
January 12, 2021 at 9:15am Jeff, Thank you (I think) for your analysis of the salary data provided by ASU HR department. I state this because Lovell has challenged salary analyses in the past, questioning from where the data came. And, it came from her own HR department. The results are even more grim than I had suspected. And until Lovell and company are gone, it will continue to spiral downward.
January 12, 2021 at 9:12am Re: January 12 @ 5:34 am - You are absolutely correct in your assessment that Lovell isn't invested in our community. She doesn't give a flying flip about Alamosa, the SLV, or even Adams for that matter. What she cares about is the $3.5 million she stands to make during her 5 year contract (that will likely take her to a very comfortable retirement). She has even said, in front of Community Leaders during fundraising events, that she needed to leave to "go home". When challenged about her living just 5 minutes away, she indicated that no, she lives 4 hours away. Denver is her home. She is there whenever her work doesn't demand her be here. Don't believe it? Just drive by Marvel House any weekend starting on Friday afternoon. It's locked up, outside light shining and no sign of activity in sight. Signed, She lost me on day 1
January 12, 2021 at 5:34am Dr. Lovell, Have you not also crossed the street in Alamosa where a BLM protester shot an innocent motorist in the head because he was just trying to drive? I am thoroughly disgusted by an email that blasts violence elsewhere and demands people adhere to your political beliefs when you have sat by silent over the past year while this community suffered. Your own community has been wrought with angst and fear. Businesses that you frequent have been near death. There was not a single message during this entire time that you stand behind this community, that you support our businesses. You said nothing either way. These are the same businesses you are begging to donate to ASU. But yet here you are taking a stand on events elsewhere. Not one single time did you involve yourself in COMMUNITY conversation unless it was related to COVID logistics. True leaders do not choose to lead only when it’s easy. It’s easy to condemn the capital violence, It would have been harder to invest yourself in the community conversation. Please spare us the grief over what happened at the capital as if it somehow is different than the violence that happened in our own town that you said nothing about. And for goodness sake, show some class and rise above the political conversation. How about model acceptance of things you don’t like rather than just demanding people do what you tell them? Do you really think people will just change their minds because YOU tell them to. Quit lecturing and be a leader that lives it rather than lectures it. Signed, You lost me And P.S. a notice was sent out for the community to put together a video of why ASU is important to them. Seriously, where was your video on why the community is important to you? We sure could have used that this year!
January 11, 2021 at 6:39pm I followed the suggestion of January 9, 2021 at 5:01pm, based on the CUPA comparison data here, which was provided by HR: (Administration) and (Faculty). Note, that many people are well above 72.5% of CUPA because of years of experience / years in position, which CUPA does not take into account. Thus, all the averages for the groups are above 72.5% of CUPA; that being a minimum goal. - An average of 85.0% of CUPA for the 90 faculty positions listed - An average of 86.2% of CUPA for the 101 non-athletics administrative positions listed - An average of 92.9% of CUPA for the 30 athletics positions listed Faculty are the most underpaid group relative to our peers. I believe things are a bit worse for us than these numbers indicate since faculty have higher minimum qualifications in comparison to many administrative and athletic positions (e.g., advisers/recruiters, assistant coaches). As HR pointed out: 1) some of these percentages are based on imperfect comparisons between job titles; and 2) the years in position issue. Nevertheless, which positions are (or were) the highest paid in percentage of CUPA terms? (I'm not picking on anyone, as I don't know who most of these people are.) Non-athletics: - 142.1% Major Gifts Officer - 128.7% Executive Director of Foundation - 120.8% Student Loan Counselor - 115.7% Student Employment and Special Programs Coordinator - 114.8% Counselor Education Clinical Coordinator - 110.7% Senior Admissions Counselor - 108.9% Manager of Support Services - 106.3% CASA Coordinator / Student Advocate - 104.7% IT Support Coordinator - 104.4% Grant Specialist - 102.3% Graduate Program Coordinator - 100.7% Systems Administrator - 90.0-99.9% There were 20 positions, including - 90.2% President So, 32 out of 101 (31.7%) administrative positions were above 90% Athletics: - 188.1% Associate Athletic Director & Head Coach ‐ M&W CC/Track & Field - 132.2% Senior Associate Athletic Director ‐ Compliance/Internal Affairs - 117.5% Assistant Coach ‐ M & W CC TR - 114.8% Head Coach ‐ Volleyball - 111.2% Strength & Conditioning Coordinator/Throws Coach - 101.4% Head Coach ‐ Wrestling - 90.0-99.9% There were 6 positions So, 12 out of 30 (40%) athletics positions were above 90% Faculty: - 125.9% Graduate Studies - Counselor Education - Teaching Assistant - 108.4% Graduate Studies - Counselor Education - Professor - 102.0% Graduate Studies - Counselor Education - Assistant Professor - 102.0% Graduate Studies - Counselor Education - Assistant Professor - 101.1% Science Math & Technology - Biology & Geosciences - Professor of Biology - 100.4% Graduate Studies - Counselor Education - Assistant Professor - 90.0-99.9% There were 17 positions So, 23 out of 90 (25.6%) faculty positions were above 90%. Fifteen of those positions were in Counselor Education; 100% of Counselor Education positions are above 90% of CUPA. Again, this may be due to imperfect comparisons ("Education General"). If these are inflated due to the comparison, then they inflate the average for all faculty, and we are doing even worse. - Jeff Elison
January 9, 2021 at 5:01pm Jeff, Thank you for the CUPA analysis. Now look at those comparisons for administrators, especially senior level. Might knock your socks off!
January 9, 2021 at 1:54pm Salaries are worse than I remembered. In our classes, 72.5% is usually a C, but our salaries are in the 3rd percentile (AAUP) or 2nd lowest among our CUPA comparison group (see below), which feels more like an F. Here is a one-page summary of a much longer analysis: ASU Salary Comparison (based on the 2018-2019 AAUP Faculty Compensation Survey) Like many institutions, ASU uses CUPA comparisons. For the last several years, ASU administration has set the bar at 72.5% of our CUPA comparison group’s average salaries across ranks. We usually offer new hires 72.5% at each rank and try to maintain at least 72.5% for current faculty. Administration sometimes claims we are doing well because some faculty are above 72.5%. However, our CUPA comparison institutions are a small subset of schools. Perhaps more importantly, CUPA and averages are just one form of comparison. Here are data comparing ASU salaries to similar institutions (all Category IIA, Masters) from the 2018-2019 AAUP Faculty Compensation Survey. Full professors: ASU full professors average 67.1% of the AUUP average, placing us in the 3rd percentile, with only 13 institutions (out of 370) paying lower salaries. That paints a very different picture than the CUPA numbers. Associate professors: ASU associate professors average 69.4% of the AAUP average, placing us in the 3rd percentile, with only 12 institutions (out of 370) paying less. Assistant professors: ASU assistant professors average 77.9% of the AAUP average, placing us in the 8th percentile, with only 31 institutions (out of 370) paying lower salaries. COLA: The AAUP survey also indicates that salaries increased 3.5% for assistant professors, 3.6% for associates, and 2.7% for full professors from 2017 to 2018. Thus, with our 2% COLA that year we fell farther behind. CUPA & AAUP: Most of ASU’s 88 CUPA comparison institutions participated in the AAUP survey. I found data for us and 64 other institutions. Again, 72.5% of average is just one indicator. Only one institution paid full professors less than ASU. Only one institution paid associate professors less than ASU. Fourteen institutions paid assistant professors less than ASU, putting us in the 24th percentile. However, this last statistic may be misleading. ASU assistant professors averaged $55,716, but they averaged $74,880 in Business and $56,822 in Counselor Education. The remaining assistant professors averaged $48,183. What has happened since this analysis? ASU cut their contribution to our healthcare in 2018-2019, cut their contribution to retirement in 2020, gave us no COLA in 2020, and passed the healthcare increase on to us in 2021. The facts clearly do not support the claim that salaries are a priority. - Jeff Elison
January 9, 2021 at 12:03pm RE: January 8, 2021 at 10:02am I wasn't disagreeing with you, just providing my perspective on the president's email. I can see how that email might come across as self-focused or hypocritical. Speaking of the latter, I wish administration and the Board of Trustees would stop telling us salaries are a priority. They've "been a priority" since before I arrived 10 years ago. Other than the approximately $200K that was thrown at the embarrassing sub-72.5% of CUPA problems, circa 2015, nothing has been done. We fall farther behind our colleagues at other institutions and workers in other professions by the year; occasional COLAs don't cut it. You can't say something is a priority year after year without doing anything significant about it and expect people to believe you. Worse yet, no one buys it when our paychecks just got smaller (as a recent post mentioned - ASU should have covered the HMO increases), and they cut ASU's contribution to our retirement. The latter really accrues over time, like a 20+ year career. The vast majority of us are significantly worse off with regard to take-home pay and benefits than we were last year. Please stop insulting us with the "priority" ruse. Doing another analysis doesn't count as addressing the problem - we know the answer, pay stinks. I've done many analyses and presented them to Senate - we have the lowest salaries in the state (public 4-year) and some of the absolute lowest in the country (bottom 3-8 percentiles). I'm happy to share the most recent document I prepared; in fact, it may be here on WA. - Jeff Elison
January 8, 2021 at 8:02pm Thank you 10:02AM on January 8, 2021. I cannot disagree. The most recent post is right on. - Dodie Day
January 8, 2021 at 3:42pm Can someone share the president’s message? Not all of us who follow WA are still at ASU. ---- Editor's Note: We linked to it below and here it is again.
January 8, 2021 at 10:02am Jeff, Nobody is disputing the need to teach and engage our students. That is absolutely true and important for each faculty and staff to do. What, I think, the issue with the president’s message is her self-focus — how she is all knowing about how our democracy works; her experiences giving her some level of expertise that felt a little condescending. To take the rhetorical analysis one step further, perhaps if she was to practice what she preaches, her words wouldn’t ring so hollow—specifically civility and treating people with respect. Because she most assuredly does not do that. I was intrigued by your pedagogical practices. Thank you for being a great professor.
January 7, 2021 at 6:38pm Thank you Jeff, well said. - Dodie Day
January 7, 2021 at 11:40am I'm sure many others feel incredibly upset today, as I do. So, I appreciate president Lovell's email. I hope it went to all students. I bet many of them don't understand just how historical these events are, what a threat to democracy they represent, the importance of free speech, and the big fat red line between protest vs. sedition and violence. I tried to balance perspectives this past semester with assignments on "The Mythology of Racial Progress" and "What is Woke," which discusses the pros and cons of woke/cancel culture. I was alarmed by how many students felt suppressing speech was desirable, including specific instances of "cancelling." To attack polarization, I showed the clip of Hawk Newsome (president of BLM of Greater NY) when he was invited onto the stage at a MAGA rally, as well as the clip of President Obama making comments critical of some aspects of woke culture. Obama's message is clear, better to reach across the aisle than "be as judgmental as possible" - "that's not activism." I can't think of more important issues for students to consider this semester, recognizing that not all courses are suited to these discussions. - Jeff Elison
January 7, 2021 at 10:31am So typical of Lovell... make a national crisis about her. She’s such a narcissist. Can we toss her out at the same time we toss Trump?
January 5, 2021 at 10:22am And why members of the board of trustees should sit in the first row during the graduation ceremony? What did these incompetent people with small-town syndrome do for students?
January 4, 2021 at 8:02pm Maybe Meagan Smith should be in the “Hall of Fame”? I’m sure I made ASU history in one way or another.
January 3, 2021 at 12:03pm 2020 is over! Now enjoy your smaller paycheck, reduced contribution to retirement, unfilled positions, and flattened management structure. We survived 2020 to be rewarded with more work for less compensation. Thanks, Prez and Board! Know who else recently moved to a flatter management structure? Walmart. ASU, the Walmart of higher education. That should have been our marketing slogan for the last bunch of years. "We make education cheap for students by breaking our employees."
December 30, 2020 at 9:15am Walters' post was disgusting, magnified by his position. What's with all the thumbs-down for ASU's New Years video? Is it because of the way they treat employees, the terrible pay?
December 29, 2020 at 5:30pm Who says a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can’t make a difference? Timmy-boy took down the offensive, anti-Muslim post. Nice work WA crew!
December 27, 2020 at 8:31am The posting by Tim Walters should be sent to Senator Hickenlooper and Gov. Polis so they know who they are appointing on the board of trustees at their public universities. Can you imagine if a current or previous board member at any of the other public institutions in Colorado posted something like that? Walters responsibility to the university and to the community did not end when he left as a trustee.
December 27, 2020 at 2:28am The posting from Tim Walters reflects how Adams State handles faculty who are not US citizens. For the few years I spent as a faculty at ASU, HR (thanks, Tracy) almost screwed up my H1B process and refused to start the green card process. Hearing all ENDLESS talks about diversity equity, and inclusion, along with other Title V crap was especially painful. So glad I am done with this now. Are views expressed by Tim Walters unique and uncommon in the SLV? No, they are not. The community in Alamosa is not that different when it comes to how they treat people with a different background. Maybe you don't need a university down there. Just a big ranch with horses and guns will do.
December 26, 2020 at 8:55am Honestly, I am bewildered by Tim Walters' public post on FB. I have considered him and his wife good friends for a long time. I know his son served with distinction in Afghanistan as the personal VIP pilot to the previous President Hamid Karzai, and I proudly posted a picture of his son shaking hands with President Karzai on my FB. Tim always showed interest in my background and my family. So I don't know why he posted this? All I can say that it is much below his stature, education and background. I wish him and his family the best always and hope we will remain friends. - S. Masood Ahmad, Director of Student Engagement & Success ASU (2008 to 2015)
December 25, 2020 at 10:15pm I almost never post on here anymore, but let me take a few minutes to say something on this fine Christmas. I think back on all the great people ASU's toxic culture has driven away. People who loved Adams State, who still love the San Luis Valley, who started a family, bought a house in the area, and built a life here. Then, through circumstances and actions painfully documented on this website and elsewhere, were driven away - some near, some far, but almost none left from a mere decade ago. It's nothing short of tragic. Then on today of all days, I see the grotesque public social media post (archived here if removed) by former ASU Trustee Tim Walters, whom ASU recently heralded as a member of its "Hall of Fame." This is hate speech. It is bigotry. It is discriminatory. It would easily meet the standard of review for an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission complaint. And this kind of bigotry is not an isolated incident, as others have described here for years and years. Yet these are the individuals ASU celebrates, lifts up, entrusts with great responsibility, coronates and memorializes? Even as ASU actively drives away so many intent on improving the institution, upholding accountability and insisting upon academic integrity? What about the students, faculty, and staff (past, present, and future) who see this pervasive culture of exclusion and conclude, quite rationally, that ASU claims to support diversity but nonetheless maintains a pervasive toxicity coursing through campus? Hall of Fame? ASU is upholding Halls of Shame, from one end of campus to the other. And the painful truth is that everyone knows it, but too many are still entrenched in the same culture of protectionism which tolerates this kind of behavior. - Danny Ledonne (I have notified Tim Walters of my comment and posted this response. Tim responded, then blocked me. I replied from a second account).
December 24, 2020 at 9:38am From the Chronicle Community - Our HyFlex Experiment: What’s Worked and What Hasn’t (October 26, 2020): "I’ve been teaching college classes for 23 years, and there have been times this semester when I’ve felt less like a teacher and more like one of those circus performers spinning stacks of plates and cups on my arms and head — except in my case, there are many more drops and crashes. What seems clear is that institutions using the HyFlex model need to find more and different ways to support faculty members than before. Hire work-study students to wrangle Zoom? Improve the integration and workflow of these various tools? At the very least, we have to acknowledge the significant burden now on classroom instructors, a burden for which very few of us were prepared." And especially relevant for ASU - "Faculty members cannot hide from structural racism and economic inequality any more, because our students were never able to in the first place. That is perhaps the most important lesson we’ve learned in our HyFlex semester. ... But after our pandemic-induced pivot, the dramatic disparities in this area became brutally evident. We have students who: - Share iffy Wi-Fi with other family members all trying to do some form of online schooling at the same time. - Try to do their coursework on a smartphone, since the computers they relied on are in now-shuttered campus computer labs. - Do not have reliable internet access at all, and attend class on Zoom while parked in the McDonald’s parking lot, hoping the restaurant’s guest Wi-Fi signal is strong enough. - Keep their cameras off, not because they’re zoning out or playing video games during class, but because they’re crammed into a tiny apartment with the rest of their family and they’re sitting in the bathroom because it’s the only quiet place to attend class virtually. None of those inequities are new, but the abrupt shift in modality has both exacerbated and intensified them. If all your schooling is now online, and you can’t get online, then for you, school is closed. And with the similar online shift in learning-support services, the scaffolding that many of our students depended upon — and which we told them they were entitled to and exhorted them to use — became unreachable. Covid-19 has laid bare the profound inequities in our society, from the global scale all the way down to my section of “Ancient World History.” HyFlex classes didn’t cause those inequities, but they can reflect and intensify them. If we employ an instructional model that is dependent upon things like live videoconferencing and streaming media — without ensuring that all students are able to access their courses — we’ve committed institutional malpractice, and it doesn’t matter if we’re in a pandemic. If we are open for learning, it has to be for all our students or none. To do otherwise is to intensify the very inequities we say we want to fix."
December 18, 2020 at 3:14pm December 18 @ 6:59 - Ok, I will engage with you this one last time. But let me bullet point it for your ease of understanding. And, I must add the caveat that I don’t know for certain if you are an employee. I’m guessing by your uninformed posts, probably not. Here goes: 1. I did not call you a racist, I called Lovell a racist. She CHOOSES to not learn how to pronounce the surnames of the Hispanic students at our institution, an HSI. I don’t know anything about you in this realm. But having observed her for two or so years, I can assure you that statement is true. 2. You call me a bully because I asked you to get your knickers out of knot. How ironic. What prompted that response from me was YOU calling me and another poster “not part of the solution... a part of the problem”. The problem (no pun intended) here is that we were bringing to light a VERY serious issue: the president’s racism. I guess everybody should do as you say, not as you do? You claim to be here [on this forum] because you thought all ideas were welcomed. Huh! Sorry I didn’t read between the lines that you meant only yours. Telling you "if you don’t like it you can leave" was my giving it right back at you. You certainly can dish it out, but you assuredly can’t take it. That’s sad, really... 3. Oh and this one is REALLY important: you know NOTHING about me or any other poster on this site to make such assumptions. You do NOT know — because again I’m guessing you don’t work in the viper pit —how awful this “leadership” truly IS. Sometimes this forum provides a much needed outlet for abused employees who are too damn afraid to speak up or out or even identify who we are amongst one another. What we don’t need is more abuse by uninformed, self-righteous folks such as yourself — hence my holier-than-thou knickers request. Now. I’m DONE with you. Please just stop. Or someone might think you’re a harasser and a bully. And that would be “Sad really.” Geesh!
December 18, 2020 at 6:59am To December 15, 2020 at 7:24pm - Glad to see bullying is alive and well at ASU. I hear what you are saying. “Agree with me, or else leave”.. “agree with me or else it is racist.” I think you are nothing more than a disgruntled bully. I am here because I thought this is a forum in which all ideas were welcome. I guess all ideas are welcome as long as they agree with you. Sad really.
December 15, 2020 at 7:24pm December 15 @ 8:02 - Get your knickers out of their holier-than-thou knot. Big difference between a cheeky play on her name that underlines how Evil she is, vs her willful ignorance. She’s been here how long? The willful inability to pronounce Hispanic surnames is simply racist...again showing how Evil she is. Perhaps if you don’t like what you read here, you can leave. Just sayin’.
December 15, 2020 at 8:02am December 11, 2020 at 12:03pm and December 14, 2020 at 7:17pm - You are both purposely doing exactly what you are complaining about Lovell doing. She may not know how to pronounce names, that is an ignorance issue. You are purposely making last name misspelling and mispronunciation errors. Two wrongs don't make a right and you purposely making those errors, in my opinion, is worse than her ignorance. Her ignorance can be corrected. I hate when HR says "if you don't like it, you can leave." but for both of you, it may be the better option. It is obvious who is part of the problem here and not part of the solution.
December 14, 2020 at 7:17pm December 11 @ 12:03 - Instead of president level, how about president lEvil. (Lower case L). Because she is.
December 11, 2020 at 12:03pm Good gawd! December campus update... President Level (intentionally misspelled) can’t even pronounce last names of our staff! We are an HSI - don’t you think she’d learn to pronounce last names correctly? If you don’t know how, have your assistant help her out! Embarrassing! SMH!
December 10, 2020 at 3:38pm Another issue is people who are working remotely don’t work. They go run errands or whatever else they do just like they did when they worked on campus. They cried about wishing they could work from home to be with their family yet they go all over town all day and if they have a deadline on something they’ll work from home until 9-10 pm thus ignoring their family anyway. Also, regarding those four hours. If you requested that day off should you be asked to fill a leave sheet for 8 hours or just 4? It would seem unfair to fill one out for 4 in my opinion.
December 6, 2020 at 7:25pm There is a lot of mistrust. How can we support an administration we don't trust? - Dodie Day
December 5, 2020 at 8:32am To December 4, 2020 at 9:27am - “Blah, blah, blah” ?? Thank you. With three words, you have summed up ASU's issues. Thank you for solidifying that perspective. You forget that those parents and students are the ones paying your salary. I know where my money will not be going. CU and CSU offer the same degree? Wow, you really are in a fantasyland. If you think that an ASU degree has the same earning potential as a CU or CSU degree, you must be an ASU grad because I assure you that you get out of the valley and there is no where that would agree with you. ROI on a degree from CU or ASU are equal? Ha, no way. Earning potential from CSU is equivalent to ASU? You have been in the valley for way too long. ASU has tons to offer and is a great place to get an education but there is no way that they are on par with a CU or CSU. You think outside of the valley that anyone even knows where ASU is? You say ASU and 99% of the people think Arizona State, not Adams State. I have a question... if ASU admissions and enrollment management are not contacting prospective students, what are they doing? Isn’t that the core of their job? It is not about $ it is about laziness. It is tough to make contact with prospective students from the Starbucks or Safeway. Picking up a phone and making a call is not about money. No one on campus has ever been told they can’t make a phone call to a prospective student because of money. I am guessing this is just another excuse as to why admissions can not do their job. Also, schools like Western, Mesa, Metro, Northern Colorado, CSU Pueblo all made calls too but they have so much more money than ASU? You know what they say... ignorance is bliss! Dodie, I highly doubt that Lovell is encouraging enrollment management to not follow up with admitted students. I love that you have the protections to be able to speak your mind but those same protections make it very difficult to remove individuals that are not doing their job. Lovell is not encouraging laziness, which seems to be the real problem right now. Give me more, the gift baskets are not enough, and I will sit here and do nothing until I retire with a state pension. Come payday you and the university are even, they don’t owe any employees jack. This is not the same as HR telling people if they don’t like it they can leave, this is just people being plain lazy. Admissions and enrollment management are not doing their jobs and taking pay for it. To me, that seems like theft. They are paid to do a job and they are obviously not doing it. There are a ton of individuals at ASU doing their jobs and doing them well, but there are also a lot of employees, from top to bottom, doing the bare minimum, if that. Yes, it starts at the top but those under the top are still not doing their jobs. If people are not doing their jobs and the management is not ensuring they are doing their jobs, then it is Lovell’s job to step in and make some changes. Enrollment management/admissions is not doing their jobs. They arguably have the jobs that most impact ASU's bottom line. If there are no students, then the rest of the employees are not needed. ASU needs students and not online grad students that do not use, or pay for, all the employees that support the on campus students. If ASU changes to a mostly online model, there are a lot of people in Alamosa whom are no longer needed. Why is it that enrollment was over 3000 undergrad students not too long ago, and half that now? Enrollment management is failing miserably. But let’s not pick on them, it must be Lovell’s fault. If ASU were a private rather than public institution, there would be a ton of employees fired, but I doubt Lovell would be one of them.
December 4, 2020 at 8:25pm I hear your concern. I hope it wasn't the School of Business. We really put a lot of effort into reaching out to our students. - Dodie Day
December 4, 2020 at 9:27am CU and CSU have many more resources and people, it comes down to $. I know it's 2020 and you have to reply and respond, make the students and parents feel good, appreciated, coddle them, entitle them (blah, blah, blah). Go to CU or CSU and pay double the tuition for remote learning, more $ for housing, meals. For the same degree.
December 3, 2020 at 8:23pm Dodie, honesty isn’t “picking on” micromanaged employees. Enrollment management was a mess long before Lovell showed up... actually since Karla Hardesty assumed her “leadership” position under the McClure reign of terror. Lovell is culpable in that she allows this incompetence to continue.
December 3, 2020 at 7:22pm Please, don't pick on those under Lovell. She is a micromanager. She makes all the decisions. We have to live with that for now. - Dodie Day
December 3, 2020 at 11:44am Gift baskets are not ASU's issue. They did not owe you anything. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth. The issue is that enrollment management is failing miserably. I have a child that applied to multiple schools including ASU. They have been granted admission by all he applied to including schools like CU and CSU (early acceptance for both). Without fail, every school, with the exception of ASU, has had someone from enrollment management call and speak to them about attending their school. From ASU, an acceptance email was sent but that was it. No follow up. I see where the real problem is. I am wondering what all those people in admissions are doing. This is not “if you admit them, they will come” type of situation. There is way too much competition out there.
December 1, 2020 at 6:46pm I believe I appreciated the 4 hours of administrative leave. What I do not appreciate is an administration, Lovell to be precise, sending out baskets with items in them that the "best use by date" is 11 days out. December 4, 2020. The very next day an email is sent out by her stating how important we are. Just a reminder, the state rescinded the 3% raises we were supposed to get. Not sure, but I don't think the majority of people received a raise. Lovell, on the other hand, is awarded a large bonus. Of course she DEFERRED a portion of it. Just saying. - Dodie Day
November 30, 2020 at 8:01pm Gosh Dodie, That just seems awfully small considering all of the issues, budget and otherwise, we are facing as an institution. I appreciated that they cared enough to provide something small for everyone. Your four hours of administrative leave had a significant dollar value attached to it. I think you forgot to add that to your $10 value. Why don’t you just say “thank you” and move on.
November 24, 2020 at 7:03pm Would anyone like to comment on the Holiday Baskets? No offense to Sodexo. It seems they had a lot of coffee and Clif Bars to get rid of. There was probably a dollar amount stipulated and they did their best. Maybe a $10.00 gift card? Just my thoughts. I do appreciate the 4 hours of Administrative Leave. - Dodie Day
November 17, 2020 at 6:30pm The reports also expressed concern about university students returning home on break. "On university campuses, students are letting their guards down with Thanksgiving break less than a week away. Message to students to continue their mitigation actions on and off campus to protect others and themselves. If they are going home, they should follow CDC holiday guidelines for protective behaviors," the reports said.
November 2, 2020 at 7:01pm If you type in COVID in search on the Adams State website the weekly update is there. Yes, it has been hard to find. I think that was addressed last week. - Dodie Day
October 31, 2020 at 8:26pm COVID cases are increasing exponentially in the SLV. The last 3 days have seen record increases of 21, 22, 32 cases, mostly in Alamosa county. Yet we haven't heard anything from administration, have we?
October 30, 2020 at 9:21am Enrollment is booming, 10x: Brown believes if one of the larger Colorado universities were to go out of business, every one of the 35,000 students would likely relocate to a different university to complete their higher education experience.
October 29, 2020 at 6:48pm So here’s an interesting little gem. It appears ASU has begun to market and sell its years of equity work, funded by Title V. Here’s the problem: Marcella Garcia is the contact for this new entrepreneurial enterprise and yet she is still working on the Title V grant that finds it. This is illegal. Institutions are not allowed to make money from grant funds... thoughts? Oh, and don’t get me started about her and Lillian trying to market this as a private venture a few years ago — using institutional resources, materials, and monies. Corruption much? And yes, at Arnold’s farm.
October 28, 2020 at 7:42pm After today’s CEC meeting, my heart goes out to the custodial staff. Matt Chacon asked a question on behalf of one of the custodians and that was what was going to happen to them once the students left for the semester. Rodney chimed in, and in this faux incredulous tone, he said he couldn’t believe someone would ask that question. How dare he! How dare he try to demean his whole staff with his arrogance? Who wouldn’t wonder in times like these about the future? It shows a complete lack of confidence in him as a leader for someone on his staff to ask someone else about their job security and Kevin Daniel needs to set him straight. Maybe he’s told them before that it would be business as usual but again, there’s no confidence in the man. Not to mention, he asked about the future of his staff at the last Zoom meeting! If any custodian feels any sort of retaliation from this, they need a safe place to address it, because they won’t have any safety going to HR!
October 13, 2020 at 11:20pm According to the 2020-21 spreadsheet, the directors most underpaid compared to any others are: Director of AITC ($52k), Director of Counseling and Career ($56k), and Director of Activities and Rex ($51k). All of those areas have multiple components of direct retention, health and well-being of students, and at least the latter two have higher degrees and multiple areas of oversight. All are highly involved on this campus and are student advocates, but their pay is drastically lower.
October 13, 2020 at 11:02am It looks like the largest sports revenue generating schools are also pretty top notch academically as well. I guess the revenue the sports generated has nothing to do with that. Ranking college sports' highest revenue producers I would like to know what directors at ASU are making between 45 and 55K, I would also like to know what those directors generate in revenue, for departments other than athletics. There are several departments on campus that are dying and a drain on the university. I think those Directors should be paid at least 100K. If you can not appreciate the sarcasm then... Just because you have a higher degree, does not mean you are better or even more qualified than someone who doesn't. Remember, 49 percent of all higher degree earners are in the bottom half of their class. Having a degree does not make you entitled to higher pay, it still has to be earned. The athletic community adds heads to a struggling school, you want to watch ASU crumble, Get rid of the athletics since they do not generate revenue. I think there are plenty of programs on campus that do not "pull their own weight" should we be looking at them? You want to really play the blame game, take a look at all departments and see which are being funded by the rest of the school with little or no revenue generation themselves. Listen, in a perfect world, money would not be an issue but whether you like it or not, education has to be run like a business (money coming in has to be greater than expenditures). The money has to come from some where. It is not found in that pot at the end of the rainbow. Wait, I know, rather than fix the problems we will "kick the can on down the road." That seems to be the status quo.
October 12, 2020 at 3:55pm Absolutely it’s jealously...and also anger. How can you justify equally or more important jobs with more supervision and oversight being paid $20,000 to $30,000 lower? These are all directors on campus with Masters or higher degrees.
October 12, 2020 at 3:13pm "if Adams State didn't have athletics, there would be no Adams State" Whoops. Somebody just said the quiet part out loud. This is a succinct summary of what is wrong with Adams State and the NCAA's effect on higher education as a whole: the tail is now wagging the dog and the emphasis is not on how to build structurally-sound academic programs, but how to prioritize athletics to then fund academic programs as an afterthought. Higher education isn't an entertainment factory. The best educational systems in the world, and within the USA, do not prioritize sports as the primary method of funding their campuses. So this laudatory praise for, and disproportionate funding of, Athletics at ASU. Kind of sounds like ignorance and grossly-misplaced priorities.
October 12, 2020 at 2:53pm One picture does not tell all. I was at the golf tournament, which had a great turn out and very well ran. When people were on the patio, most were either distanced or had a mask on. Some foursomes only had 1 per cart, and it was an outside event which I believe follows the state guidelines. Find something else to complain about other than athletics, because if Adams State didn't have athletics, there would be no Adams State. The co-AD's earn every cent of their pay, probably one of the toughest jobs in the RMAC. Kind of sounds like jealously.
October 12, 2020 at 8:27am That's because the Athletic Department is poorly run and just doesn't give a damn!
October 9, 2020 at 11:30am It is nice to see that our Athletic Department hosted a golf tournament and posted a picture with no one wearing masks or social distancing. Spread on.
October 8, 2020 at 8:08pm Well, there we have it. The new co-athletic directors with less time at Adams state, less experience, just earning their higher degrees- earning $75,000 each while leading the super COVID-19 spreader department on campus. No other director on campus makes anywhere near that amount, most are $20-30,000 lower salaries... many of whom are much more experienced and seniority... other levels are even more underpaid. Administration always says it’s just not true, people are paid what they’re worth here... fuck that. This is BS. There is no merit in choosing pay for anyone who is not faculty or classified, just being liked or fucking lucky.
October 8, 2020 at 7:43pm Yes, it was confirmed today that on campus we have five more positives. Please, wear your mask, wash your hands often, and keep a 12 foot distance. - Dodie Day
October 8, 2020 at 10:35am One building and maybe another were sprayed for Covid yesterday it seems. They’re not saying anything about it and I’m sure more furtive actions will be taken to where not even those of us who try to put this info out there will know.
October 6, 2020 at 7:26pm Your calculations are based on all employees being furloughed. Mine was based on the State formula, for classified employees, which seems fair to me. If there is a furlough I believe the states approach is fair and should be applied across the board. - Dodie Day
October 6, 2020 at 12:25pm According to the Salary info posted by WA. Keep in mind these numbers do not include anything other than salary figures (employer savings from not making retirement contributions for said furlough or payroll tax responsibilities are not calculated) Numbers rounded to the nearest dollar. Based on a 40 hr work week: Classified Employees: 88 positions listed $ 3,676,008 annual salary expense – Average classified salary is $41,773/year $ 70,692 weekly salary expense (40 hr work week) $ 1767 /hr $ 14,138 /8 hour day furlough salary savings Admin Employees: 127 positions listed $ 7,077,822 annual salary expense – Average Admin salary - $55,731 $ 136,112 weekly salary expense (40 hr work week) $ 3403 /hr $ 27,222 /8 hour day furlough salary savings Faculty: 94 Positions Listed $ 5,382,855 - annual salary expense – Average Faculty salary - $57,264 $ 103,516 - weekly salary expense (40 hr work week) $ 2588 /hr $ 20,703 /8 hour day furlough salary savings 1 day salary savings for all three groupings combined is just over $62,000. For a week, just over $310,000. Please check all my math. I am not making any judgements here, just some numbers.
October 5, 2020 at 8:56pm Not sure what all of this "Buttercup" is about. The fact is that, if you furlough all Classified employees you are going to save less than $5000. If you take ASU police out of the equation it is under $4000. The savings comes from the president and all others who make $80,000 or more. Just saying. - Dodie Day
October 5, 2020 at 5:50pm ----Editor's Note: We have published ASU 2020-2021 salary data.
October 1, 2020 at 5:46pm Oct 1 @ 5:16 - Sounds like you want to have a civil conversation as long as people agree with you. I seem to have touched a nerve and it is very obvious you don’t really want a civil conversation, you want to complain. If you see a problem, suggest how to fix it, otherwise you are just a complainer. Also, I wasn’t calling you buttercup in my initial post, I was using a common colloquialism “suck it up buttercup”. If you are not coming up with any sort of solution, you should probably get off your high horse and keep your complaints to yourself. If you really cared, you would offer up some alternatives or solutions. Again... just sayin’
October 1, 2020 at 5:16pm Ok Buttercup I don’t appreciate you assuming I am a faculty member. I never indicated I was. I just asked a question in my original post as to HOW that would work given faculty work—not a complaint. Maybe I’m an administrative assistant who sees that. Again with regard to task vs time oriented, senior administration also will take their Friday’s off and still earn the same hourly rate. If you go back to the original questions in the original post I also mentioned scholarship and service in addition to teaching. The fact that you are so uninformed about faculty work that you couldn’t see a rhetorical question about cutting class 20 minutes early proves my point. And to correct your math, a faculty member who teaches 12 credit hours spends 12 hours in the classroom and COUNTLESS hours grading, advising, prepping, etc. in addition to their aforementioned work above. So tell me Buttercup, do you spend countless hours post-toilet scrubbing helping that toilet succeed? Or do you go home at the end of your shift and forget about ASU for a while? Now I’m finished with you Buttercup. You clearly are too dense to try to learn something here, to see the original post for what is was, to engage in civil conversation for our institution. Have a really wonderful day.
October 1, 2020 at 4:56pm Oct 1 @ 3:33 - Wouldn't administrators be “task oriented as well? And the statement about ending a class 20 minutes early, that would be the wrong place to take it. A professor teaching 12 credit hours spends 10hours a week in the classroom and that is where you want to cut your time from? Sounds like you are really in it for the students. The only person that has complained about a possible furlough is you, a faculty member. Everyone else is just talking that it may be coming. Where there are many faculty who are here for the students, I am guessing you are here for the pay check. Which, my friend, is sad because ASU does not pay that well. Yes buttercup, suck it up. I am sure if you had other options, you would have taken them by now. Just sayin’
October 1, 2020 at 3:33pm Re: October 1 @ 6:29am - No, an hourly employee who punches a clock is not a task oriented employee. That toilet won't get scrubbed or offices vacuumed on Friday if that is a Furlough Day. But what faculty cannot do is cut class 20 minutes short to start their furlough. THAT is the difference between task-oriented and time-oriented. It's also the difference between an hourly employee's hours will be cut but they are still making the same hourly amount. Not so for a faculty member. And, by the way, I wasn't focusing on custodial or support staff, I was thinking more along the lines of overpaid administrators. My post wasn't arrogant as much as it is INFORMED, which you clearly aren't. Seek first to understand, then to be understood. BTW, did you READ the news article about the income level that was posted? It's unlikely you or any other custodial staff make $50K+. And, calling people names isn't helping either, "Buttercup".
October 1, 2020 at 8:14am Re: September 30 @7:36 - I wonder how or if this will impact ASU employees paid through federal grant dollars. Seems there would have to be federal approval first.
October 1, 2020 at 6:29am @ 6:05 9/27 - Of course a furlough is a pay cut. That is exactly what a furlough is, a pay cut to save money. Faculty are not the only ones who will have to still do the work. I think that is an arrogant statement you made. If a janitor is furloughed, the work is still there and will still have to be done. Suck it up buttercup, these are the most trying times the university has seen, it is going to require sacrifice from everyone if ASU is going to survive.
September 30, 2020 at 7:36pm So the furloughs look to be coming for State employees so they are probably in the works at ASU, as well. Good news is that the state will be approaching it on a sliding scale with most of the lower paid employees being spared. Mandatory Unpaid Furlough Days Planned For State Of Colorado Employees: 75% Will Be Ordered To Take Two Days Off
September 27, 2020 at 6:05pm How do we furlough faculty? Faculty work is task oriented, not time oriented. Shall we stop research? Service? Office hours? Classroom contact hours? No, a faculty “furlough” is a pay cut—plain and simple, because the tasks or work MUST be completed. Or maybe we can get it “deferred” like the president’s bonus. You know, when #karlaforpresident increases actual enrollment and not just dual enrollment (ie weighted student credit hours).
September 26, 2020 at 7:43pm Furlough - the executive order states the following: I. Background and Purpose State law provides the leaders of the State's institutions of higher education with the independent authority to furlough nonclassified employees. Through this Executive Order, I also direct the State's institutions of higher education to furlough classified employees if needed to manage their budgets accordingly. It seems, from the "All Campus" meetings, which have been held monthly, Adams State is doing better than expected. There should not be a reason to use furloughs to manage the budget this fiscal year. - Dodie Day
September 22, 2020 at 8:44am @ September 14, 2020 at 8:54pm - they probably won’t put up photos of Hispanic students to make sure none are left out. Instead they released the census and to include all Hispanic students they assigned them a number with a percentage sign afterward. No Child Left Behind 2.0: College Edition.
September 22, 2020 at 8:36am A new round of student quarantines must mean the positive tests are coming back from the Fri-Sun testing. Although the county numbers didn't change yet.
September 19, 2020 at 2:32pm From the recent Colorado Public Radio News article: "Undergraduate enrollment has fallen at the University of Colorado system, the Colorado School of Mines, Western Colorado State University, and Adams State University, according to numbers provided by the Colorado Department of Higher Education. Adams State experienced a 6 percent dip in undergraduate enrollment. The school, however, is reporting flat enrollment this fall thanks to an increase in graduate students. Adams State expanded opportunities at its graduate schools to students who might need additional training during the pandemic, said Cheryl Lovell, the school’s president. Half of the regional university’s population in Alamosa is considered in high financial need, Lovell said. “We knew our growth in graduate programs would not only meet workforce demand to provide highly trained, skilled advanced employees,” Lovell said. “It also provided an upward mobility for our students to advance themselves professionally.”
September 19, 2020 at 2:16pm I would say those numbers look pretty good. Strong growth on the grad school side. Considering the current environment, ASU seems to be hanging strong. Keep it up everyone! Great stories still start here!
September 18, 2020 at 11:15am ----Editor's Note: ASU has released their Fall Census data and published a summary.
September 14, 2020 at 8:54pm Hey, are they going to put up photos of Hispanic students for the 100th Anniversary? Just a thought. Being an HSI and all. - Meagan Smith
September 13, 2020 at 9:08am New York Times: "But while health officials have endorsed masks and social distancing as effective measures for curbing the spread of the coronavirus, some experts scoff at fever checks. Taking temperatures at entry points is nothing more than theater, they say, a gesture that is unlikely to screen out many infected individuals, and one that offers little more than the illusion of safety." In one study only 44% of people sick enough that they were being admitted to a hospital had a fever. Only 30% in a larger study. “You are maximally infectious before you exhibit symptoms, if you exhibit any symptoms at all,” Dr. Paltiel said. “You can be exposed and incubating the virus, and be beginning to shed massive amounts of transmissible virus and be a superspreader, without actually exhibiting any symptoms like a fever.” And then there's the weather. After walking a few blocks to school, the thermometers on campus read well below 98 degrees for me. Some days it's in the low 90s. And it hasn't even gotten cold yet. Once temps are down below the 40s consistently, those thermometers will be completely meaningless. Widespread testing this week/weekend should finally give us a real picture of where we stand.
September 12, 2020 at 7:17pm I just want to clarify what I mean by fiasco. We are depending on Matt Chacon to solve all the camera and mic issues. He is one person and doing a great job. He cannot be in five places at the same time. He needs to be appreciated. Due to the problems with the cameras and mics the HyFlex classes have challenges for students and faculty. I do believe that we have students who are taking advantage of the HyFlex model. - Dodie Day
September 11, 2020 at 8:42pm I am concerned about the quality of education at Adams State. Students are supposed to be in the classroom or remote. Not happening. This is a fiasco. - Dodie Day
September 11, 2020 at 3:29pm I am sure you can make your donation at the Grizzly Club Golf tournament in early October.
September 11, 2020 at 6:27am $ Adams will take your donation.
September 10, 2020 at 9:36pm At the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, more than 40,000 students take tests twice a week for the coronavirus. We can't even get a test at ASU.
September 7, 2020 at 7:26am Dodie, that’s because Kevin Daniel and Housing have gotten really mad at even a mere mention of the possibility of a positive case. And that’s just the side I know. Who knows who else?
September 4, 2020 at 8:23pm I did hear today that we do have one or more cases. Just curious why I was told yesterday that we have positive cases and it was being kept quiet? That was not from administration, but faculty. - Dodie Day
September 4, 2020 at 12:11pm August 31 @ 3:35 pm - Well stated and that’s exactly where I’m coming from. The amount of people hat I have seen going above and beyond to curtail the spread of Covid has been too many to number and that goes from custodians to admins to professors. Many people here have taken a frontline approach in keeping us as safe as possible.
September 4, 2020 at 11:58am Confirmed case out of Theater which means Music and McD has been compromised.
September 3, 2020 at 7:51pm I want to apologize for my comment yesterday. I am always a little crazy but become more crazy just before Labor Day and Memorial Day. - Dodie Day
September 2, 2020 at 10:58pm I only moved to the valley to be closer to my sister. She lived in Moffat at the time. My niece committed suicide by shooting herself in the third eye. I am not afraid to stand up to ASU administration. - Dodie Day
August 31, 2020 at 3:35pm To various posts: don’t for a minute think that because we are critical of ASU that we don’t love it. Quite the contrary and exactly why we are critical of an inept, greedy administration. No, nothing is ever perfect. But if the administration valued shared governance, ASU would be a hell of a lot better than it currently is. Heather, Karla, Tracy, Ken and others who have been here too long because they are “yes” people are exactly our problem. Well... and a bully, autocratic President. The critics also love Adams State. If we didn’t, we would have left long ago, like so many of our colleagues who didn’t love it as much as us.
August 30, 2020 at 2:08pm ----Editor's Note: We have posted the August 21, 2020 memo from President Lovell regarding the Temporary Reduction in Employer Defined Contribution Pension Plan Contribution.
August 28, 2020 at 10:20am @August 27, 2020 at 3:15pm - Thank you. I love Adams State. It's not perfect, but nothing ever is and I'm quite happy here. I can't think of a better place to work in the entire Valley. If you can, go there. See if the grass is greener on the other side. My opinion only...
August 27, 2020 at 7:56pm Never be discouraged to comment. There are two sides to everything. Voice your personal opinion. We, as Americans, still have the right to free speech. Always refer to it as your personal opinion. - Dodie Day
August 27, 2020 at 3:15pm @August 27, 2020 at 8:46am - Well said, I completely agree! I only get on this site occasionally, but the more I do, the more it seems that the majority of commenters would not be satisfied no matter what is being done or who is leading. Quite frankly, it seems that most of you jumped on Dr. Lovell before she even had a chance to show what she could do here. And to be honest, it just feels like most of you are rooting for people and this university to fail. I will be the first to say that I would love higher pay, and could really use it. But so could so many others. And I will also say that I wouldn’t want several of the leaders’ jobs here. I see so many of the people who are constantly being berated and criticized here working incredibly hard every day and no matter what they do or try, it’s never enough. Not often are they thanked for doing all the above & beyonds that a lot of times are not in their job descriptions, and people are so quick to assume they know everything that is “not being done” when in reality, a lot of issues spoken about and criticized here take a lot of work, time and are regulated so much. Just because some haven’t been made aware of specifics does not mean nothing is being done. There are regulations in place and confidentiality rules that must be followed. What bums me out more than seeing the state our university is in right now, is getting on this site and seeing the way some of our employees and community members do nothing but complain and bash the school that a lot of people work really hard to keep going. Do you really think this site helps the morale or culture of our campus?? None of this helps ASU. All it does is show incoming and potential students/employees how divided this campus is and what little respect there is. Maybe all of you could stop criticizing and judging for a while and try to work toward the positive instead. Because I guarantee if a lot of you were put under a microscope, the job you’re doing wouldn’t look that great either.
August 27, 2020 at 11:25am August 27, 2020 at 8:46am - You've articulated the classic "if you don't like it, leave" philosophy that Frank Novotny and other bad administrators have used. The result? Droves of faculty have left and student enrollment declined during that same period, resulting in budget cuts and job insecurity for those who remained. Morale also declined and campus culture suffered. The only way to have a campus where students enroll and graduate is to retain faculty and staff who are happy to be at ASU.
August 27, 2020 at 10:14am That message was sent out to the ASU faculty. It will be a matter of time we are shut down and students will start withdrawing!
August 27, 2020 at 9:50am A blind man could see this coming: "Dear Adams State Community: Out of an abundance of caution, and through direction from our local public health agency, we have made the decision to quarantine 44 individuals who were in direct contact with the person who tested positive for COVID-19. We learned this individual not feeling well came to campus despite our protocol to stay home if sick. While this is our first positive case since fall semester started this is alarming and we should all be reminded to follow our health and safety protocols. I am sure there are a few lessons from this one positive test result. First, stay home when you are not feeling well. Everyone should inform their faculty member or supervisor (if an employee) immediately on your status. Second, at no time should anyone rearrange any furniture in classrooms or outside of classrooms. Every room has been measured and prearranged to allow the safest distance between seats. Do not remove the tape or try to use the marked off seats. Remember the classrooms equipped with hyflex technology are specifically selected to allow a reduced number of the total class enrollment to attend in person and the remainder to attend remotely with an opportunity to switch on additional class days. At no time should the entire class be in the classroom if the number exceeds the predetermined seats. Finally, we ask everyone to reinforce the message for students or employees to stay home if not feeling well. We can only maintain our in-person instruction and our on-campus experience for the entire semester if everyone follows our health and safety protocols. Careless, selfish, and/or reckless behavior jeopardizes each of us. Please remember to continue your daily health self-assessment, take your temperature, wear your masks at all times, practice social distancing, and wash your hands regularly. To keep our community informed about any change in the number of positive test results, we will be adding a weekly COVID dashboard of confirmed positive cases to our website by the end of today. Keep moving forward and keep holding everyone accountable to follow our health and safety guidelines. President Lovell"
August 27, 2020 at 9:29am 4th day of classes: two more confirmed cases of COVID-19 in classrooms. Professors and other students exposed in large classes. Here comes the dominoes...
August 27, 2020 at 8:46am If everyone is so unhappy at Adams, why don't you leave for greener pastures? If Adams is so bad, why stay? I get a complaint column, but this is ridiculous and as for information... the only information I've seen so far is opinion. Nothing is backed up by fact. Truth is, you all (with the exception of one person on here) have NO idea what the upper administration does on a daily basis or the shit they have to put up with. Yes, they are compensated for their experience and leadership, which is what you all are saying that you want. Better compensation. Do all of you have PhD's and years of leadership under your belt? Please... I have nothing but a high school diploma and I don't expect the same compensation as someone with a PhD and 20 years of experience. I see what goes on, I hear what goes on, is life always fair? NO, and I don't expect it to be... maybe you all shouldn't either. Talk about entitled brats... and I'm not talking about the students here.
August 27, 2020 at 6:52am @8/26 9:29 pm - Rankism, classism? WTF are you talking about? People like you are the dividers. Always pointing out the differences between people. Divide and conquer? We have to get rid of higher ed. Rankism is at play. The professors are ranked higher than the students and TAs fall someone in between. Uh oh, you say “go to your supervisors” that is promoting and enabling rankism. Better get rid of class rank for all the graduating seniors in high school. Funny because a lot of people are say class rank is a better indicator of student ability as opposed to say, the SAT, but they are so wrong. Classism is also at play... watch out Seniors, the sophomores are coming. Sarcasm is at play here for those of you who live to be offended. Yes, I said live not love to be offended. Work hard, that may allow you to be at a higher rank or class. Unlike race, the lines of rank and class are malleable and they can be crossed. Now that is not to say that race does not ever effect access to those different ranks and classes but that is racism not this so called classism and rankism.
August 26, 2020 at 9:39pm It’s on a “need to know” basis. That’s how we’re being informed yet they can’t trace where those infected may have been. If it gets to the point of sending students home, we will have to stay. You know why? So the ones in leadership in our respective departments can stay ensconced in their offices or vehicles while the rank and file get exposed to COVID more. Classism and rankism will rule the day. For next year’s evals, don’t let them get away with low-balling you. Don’t let them get away with not signing off on a potential raise (if Compression will even be available). Don’t let them tell you the scores don’t mean a thing when every day we put ourselves at risk to be there. Don’t let them get away with sucking up your time talking about things that don’t pertain to work and putting you behind and just leaving you to play catch up. Tell your supervisors it’s lead, follow, or get out of the way. Their incompetence, laziness and sense of entitlement is a liability.
August 26, 2020 at 8:47pm Up to 2 more COVID cases on campus. More details to come.
August 26, 2020 at 12:10am It’s fun to see all the students on campus. However, I see them also walking around with their masks below their nose or even below the chin and walking in groups. It’s only a matter of time before we get shut down. Parking lots look empty. Not much life on campus. I understand we are down enrollment by 12%, per the horse's mouth. But, what is the true actual count? Must be severe enough to start talking about upcoming layoffs, furloughs, voluntary separations and continued hiring freezes. Discussion to start after census day - 9/9/20. Prez Lovell - set an example, take a free salary! Donald Trump takes no salary!
August 25, 2020 at 5:29pm 50/50 following instructions? Hardly anyone is taking their temperatures or stopping to use hand sanitizer. Directional arrows are largely ignored. I haven't seen any students wipe down a desk yet. How many profs are actually wiping down computers and podiums? About the only guideline being followed is masks.
August 23, 2020 at 8:50pm I have a mirror just outside my office so I can see who is coming in and out. It was 50/50 on Thursday and Friday for those who followed instructions. I am very concerned about our safety.
August 22, 2020 at 8:23pm @August 22 at 7:28 - I, too, try to be optimistic. But I have to say, this generations seems to have been raised by a bunch of self centered, rabid, wild hyenas. They have absolutely no regard for anyone but “MEEEE” and mommy and daddy defend them by suggesting they can't make adult choices yet because their frontal lobes aren’t fully developed. In the meantime, they will likely be responsible for hundreds of deaths because they just gotta party and have a real college experience. I hope ASU kicks the little bastards out. But you know we are driven by the almighty dollar and nothing more... so... expect a catastrophe here. SMDH!
August 22, 2020 at 7:34pm August 21, 2020 at 6:36pm: Yes!
August 22, 2020 at 7:28pm I'm an optimist, but... COVID-19 in the quad: Colleges crack down on student parties as virus spreads across campuses Ultimately, it all boils down to personal choices, according to Penn State President Eric Barron. "I ask students flaunting the university's health and safety expectations a simple question: Do you want to be the person responsible for sending everyone home?" "I want you to understand right now and very clearly that we have one shot to make this happen. The world is watching, and they expect you to fail. Prove them wrong. Be better. Be adults," concluded Syracuse's Vice Chancellor Haynie.
August 21, 2020 at 8:13pm Why didn't I speak during the comment section? This is my comment section. Every word that is spoken by President Lovell or Heather Heersink goes in one ear and out the other. Classified employees are protected. That really can annoy Dr. Lovell. People need to voice their concerns. Thank you, Danny for providing this format. - Dodie Day
August 21, 2020 at 6:36pm Solutions you say? Here you go: - Stop hiring new people and paying them more than staff who’ve been here longer with more education and experience. - Stop treating people like they don’t matter - Stop taking all the credit for other people’s efforts - Stop glorifying our shitty athletic teams who are currently spreading COVID, do not contribute to long term retention because they dropout or transfer (FACT), and have changed the climate of our campus since 2010 when shit hit the fan- and athletic enrollment increased. - STOP GIVING THE PRESIDENT BONUSES, even if delayed. AND STOP GIVING HER A FREE YEAR OF EMPLOYMENT. What’s wrong with her? She is mean, micromanaging, devaluing to those around her and only hears her own voice. She faked us all her first year to get the job. - Stop using all campus meeting to spread more b.s. without backing it up. Grizzly Relationships, my ass. This whole campus treats each other like shit and it starts from the top. - Stop asking people to do more when they never receive accurate compensation for their first job, let alone the four others you pile on top of them. - Stop making it impossible to offer critical feedback that is actually received and changes are made. - Stop making excuses that our campus shit storm is COVID or Beverlee. This crap started several years ago and it doesn’t get better. - Stop hiring people who hold higher degrees and paying them $30K. Would you like more solutions? No, you don’t. Because they don’t matter anyway. It’s is unfortunate because students are amazing and worth way more, so are the professionals trying to serve them.
August 21, 2020 at 10:01am @August 21, 2020 at 7:28am - Thank you, very well said! I believe everybody should be able to voice their concerns and complaints, but when does it cross into just plain whining? If some are not even going to try to be part of the solution, or offer any helpful suggestions/ideas, (Beyond The same old “fire Karla”, or cut Administration’s salaries, etc.), why get on and complain? And as for the person who tested COVID-positive, yes, there are several regulations and requirements that ASU must abide by, and just because not everybody on campus has been given information on it does not mean it is being hidden or that administration has not been notifying the necessary parties. Do you really think administration is not trying their hardest to do everything they are supposed to be to comply with COVID regulations? Sometimes (most times), it has nothing to do with administration trying to be sneaky. There are so many rules ASU is bound by and plenty of meetings, conversations and brainstorms that take place that a lot of us are never privy to - doesn’t mean it isn’t being done.
August 21, 2020 at 9:56am This place is still a good source of information. Maybe the “complaining” is just good information filtered through years of frustration, burnout, neglect, anxiety, etc. Maybe a sense of humanity would work well when reading posts because we don’t know what someone else has gone through. Maybe in always trying to have the right attitude before God and man and not trying to burden anyone else this place is their safe haven to be human and have feelings. Not trying to get on any kind of soapbox or make excuses for anyone because I for one can’t stand complaining and whining but sometimes I need to remind myself to take a step back. I’d rather read complaints here than to be overwhelmed with them via text, email, calls or conversations.
August 21, 2020 at 8:40am Thank you to anyone who acknowledged the efforts and diligence Facilities Services in the meeting yesterday. It’s good to know there’s a couple people who see us as human beings and colleagues and not just human shields at best.
August 21, 2020 at 7:28am So, just asking here but can someone please let us know exactly how Lovell is doing a terrible job? With the Bev, there seemed to be lots of examples and her actions were often perceived as questionable but with Lovell it seems more like people just don’t want any sort of leader. Leaders often have to make tough decisions and not everyone is going to like them. Also people, remember, if the student body is not on campus, a lot of jobs are not needed. You will have less of a need in departments like housing and facilities. With no athletics, there is less of a need for all that staff. Also, wether or not we all want to admit it, ASU requires money from students to run and pay its employees. The money has to come from somewhere. Be careful for what you ask for, you just might get it. As far as being impressed by Dodie signing her posts, I am as well. Remember though, I think she is a classified employee and as a classified employee, it is nearly impossible to get rid of them. It takes way more persistence and red tape than most of the administrators Or management are willing to do. That has why administrators try to replace classified positions with exempt positions. easier to fire an exempt employee. I see a ton of complaining on this site but no real offers of solutions. If you see an issue and only complain but do not offer any solution, it is just complaining and does not help ASU grow or move forward in any way and you become part of the problem. There are lots of people on campus who do their jobs and some do it very well but there are also many on campus who are just there to milk the system, so to speak. Also, for all of those complaining about not knowing whom tested positive for COVID, have you ever heard of HIPPA, have you ever heard of FERPA? I believe there are lots of rules involving protection of student health and educational data and PII. I tend to agree that this has become a forum to complain. This site used to provide a valuable resource and I believe it had a large part in the decline of the Bev, although she had a big part to do with that, now, just a lot of complaints with no real offers of solutions. I support your right to complain, I just wish some solutions were being offered as well.
August 20, 2020 at 11:47pm @August 20, 2020 at 2:43pm - If this site is so negative, why come here and post about it? This seems to be the only place some of us can get information, in spite of some of the posts. As to asking questions or comments during official communications, why risk it? Adams is all about retribution and retaliation, if you ever question authority or point out a problem with procedure or policy the system comes down on you instead of the problem. I'm impressed Dodie puts her name on her posts, and I hope for a time when Adams is strong enough to let others voice their opinion without retaliation.
August 20, 2020 at 9:10pm I know it’s not census date yet, but what are enrollment numbers right now? I’ve heard they’re down 15%. Is that accurate?
August 20, 2020 at 8:57pm So Dodie, when there was a call for questions, comments or concerns, why didn’t you pipe up about this?
August 20, 2020 at 7:20pm We all know from comments that COVID is on our campus. This should have been addressed during the "All Campus" meeting held today. I personally have many reasons why I do not trust Dr. Lovell. - Dodie Day
August 20, 2020 at 2:43pm @August 19, 2020 at 10:05am, “genitalia and obscene hand gestures...”?!? What signs are YOU looking at?? LOL, I swear, some a y’all goofy as he//. Are the signs fancy? No, not all of them, but considering the budgets some of our departments are working with, they’re doing an amazing job & I don’t see anything wrong with all the signs & arrows. I walk past a ton of them every day, they literally have zero negative impact on me, and will be helpful to some coming here for the first time or who need reminders to comply. I swear, this site spreads so much more negativity than I ever see good come from it. Is this campus perfect? Absolutely not, in fact, some here get on my damn nerves, don’t do half of the job they should be, take forever to answer and cause more problems than good. But there are so many who work their tails off here day in and day out, without a complaint and with perpetual smiles on their faces. It would do some of you well to learn a thing or two from them instead of spending your work day whining & complaining on this ridiculous site.
August 19, 2020 at 8:47pm Please keep in mind that shit rolls down from the top. - Dodie Day
August 19, 2020 at 12:57pm The football player has has endangered many by not staying isolated. I ask the question again: can someone please find the open information of how much these two new Co-athletic directors are making? Kaitlynn Smith and Justin Boyd. What a job they’re doing and I can only assume at a higher pay than any other directors on this campus. The priorities at this institution are sick and twisted.
August 19, 2020 at 10:26am Yes and he was in Rex Gym so expect it to be closed for a while. I for one will not be a martyr for this place. Especially when they don’t want to let us know anything regarding our safety.
August 19, 2020 at 10:05am I knew of this student since Monday but I gave Kenny Marquez the chance to say who it was. It was a football player. See, these people who tell you to wear your masks, etc. don’t care about us. They cover it all up but what should I expect from a place who puts tacky arrows on the floor that look more like genitalia and obscene hand gestures than anything else. Stay classy, ASU. Western and Mesa did it better. Again, it was a football player.
August 19, 2020 at 9:33am Looks like Notre Dame and Michigan State have suspended in-person learning. Is ASU really going to try to do this in person? Michigan State And Notre Dame Suspend In-Person Learning Over COVID-19 Concerns
August 18, 2020 at 8:16pm It has been confirmed, one positive test and we haven't brought students back on campus, other than athletes. - Dodie Day
August 17, 2020 at 7:22pm If we have confirmed positive cases, we and the community, have the right to know. Are we going to end up doing distance learning? - Dodie Day
August 16, 2020 at 11:46pm Fact or fiction? Did football practices get shut down due to several players testing positive for COVID-19? Heard this directly from a parent of a football scholarship awarded athlete. If so, as ASU employees, don't we have the right to know?
August 14, 2020 at 8:39pm Did you read the paper today? The ASU BoT feel Dr. Lovell is doing a great job (my opinion, just like Trump). Agreed to deferral of a portion of her bonus. She will still get it eventually. Our raises were not deferred. - Dodie Day
August 13, 2020 at 3:27pm I saw the recent picture that says, “Do your part to keep Adams State healthy” and I couldn’t agree more. Let that also apply to the higher-ups and directors, as well. How? They can stay out of the way and let the people who actually do the work day on and day out continue to do so. We might not always know what’s ahead of us, but we know why we show up to work every day. Learn to trust us that we know our job and don’t need you to interject on every issue. Also, when everyone shows back up to work on campus, how about showing up to work on time - that way we don’t have everybody trying to hurry in and ignoring all the safety precautions and becoming reckless to make it to their work areas... so they can then hurry to Safeway?
August 13, 2020 at 11:33am @August 12, 2020 at 11:47am - I would think that not having athletics might be good overall. Everyone is always commenting how athletics is such a drain on ASU. If there are no athletics, ASU is not spending money on athletics, right?
August 12, 2020 at 11:47am Let's watch the enrollment numbers drop as Athletics is cut for the fall semester and student athletes decide "why go to Adams State if I can not participate" in his or her sport. They will maintain eligibility by attending a university closure to home and most likely one that is in better standing. They will worry about athletics when they can actually participate.
August 12, 2020 at 4:12am @August 6, 2020 11:44 a.m. - Taking apart the cornerstone of a country, it's buildings and statuary is done by conquerors. So, when someone says get rid of a tomahawk, and people of Indian descent ask why, could it be the group wants to get rid of everything and begin with their own playbook? The people who originated BLM are Marxists. Could it be equal power for blacks isn't their only agenda? Could it be that Antifascist groups who riot don't know what they're doing? They think they're protesting police misbehavior, but under it all, the people who are alleged to pay the rioters 1200 dollars a day, plus attorney care if they get arrested, really want something else at the end of the day? Ask George Soros, a Nazi during WW2. ---- Editor's Note: Whatever else this comment may or may not be claiming, the often-repeated slur that Holocaust survivor George Soros was a Nazi is false.
August 9, 2020 at 5:23pm After reading the article about CSU athletes, you can bet ASU will get shut down. It will once again demonstrate that athletics comes before learning. Holding practices and athletic events puts face-to-face learning at risk for all students. Once again, ASU holds true to its mission: "Great Athletic Careers Rarely Ever Start Here."
August 9, 2020 at 10:40am Could Adams State be next? CSU athletes, staff say athletic administration covering up COVID-19 health threat
August 7, 2020 at 9:25pm Those discussing convocation are not wrong, and you can thank administration. I know the orientation team had to push back hard to even have them agree to move convocation and most of orientation online.
August 7, 2020 at 3:30pm This article doesn't mention ASU specifically but it definitely rings true: College sports embraced reckless greed. With the coronavirus crisis, the bill has come due.
August 6, 2020 at 11:44am @August 5, 2020 at 9:23pm - As a Native American, the fact it’s shaped like a tomahawk doesn’t offend me at all. Now I’m only going to speak for myself on this: I’m all for statues or any remnants of a history riddled with hate, racism, etc. to be taken down but again, for me the tomahawk is part of our culture so why erase that? That’s where we minorities are getting the wool pulled over our eyes in the name of political correctness. If they take our culture away, then we’re just left with White America’s ways. No, I’m not racist; far from it but I definitely don’t want some furtive way of Naturalization to take place. We can tear down barriers without sacrificing culture.
August 6, 2020 at 7:21am If your job can be done effectively from home/off campus, then I think you should be able to work from home but how do we handle those who can not? I mean, it is not really fair that some people are being paid to work but from off-campus, there is no way for them to do their job. They can not pay people to do nothing forever. We are always discussing CUPA and such, how much does the sitting at home position pay? Is ASU in the 80% range? I bet the people in dining and the bookstore are not able to “work from home” and getting paid for the last almost 5 months. If ASU were smart, they would have furloughed everyone and let them file for unemployment. A lot of employees would have made more with the addition of $600 per week federal subsidy than ASU pays them.
August 5, 2020 at 9:30pm I am looking at the comments. There is concern. I am not going to volunteer to be at a temperature taking entry point. Actually, I am offended that we would be asked. We are all putting our selves at risk just by showing up to work on campus. This is just my opinion. - Dodie Day
August 5, 2020 at 9:23pm Just wondering since the music building is in the shape of a tomahawk if that is cultural appropriation? Shouldn’t it be razed like the offensive statues and a new music building built?
August 5, 2020 at 7:46am Put yourself at risk for convocation, put yourself at risk by even being on campus, put in extra hours due to COVID and staffing cuts. And by the way, we are cutting our contributions to your retirement and health insurance. Great careers end here.
August 4, 2020 at 9:28pm Is this some sort of perverse joke? Setup: Due to safety concerns, Convocation will now be live streamed. Convocation is still scheduled for Friday, August 21st at 11:00am. An email will be sent out with a link to access the live stream the morning of. The list of speakers includes, Dr. Lovell, Dr. John Taylor, and the AS&F President Lathen Tsalate. Punchline: Please join the NSO Team and new students for lunch on the Campus Green directly after Convocation.
August 3, 2020 at 8:40pm Will the new motto be "Great Superspreading Begins Here" ...?
August 3, 2020 at 3:24pm Re: August 3 @ 9:29 - Oh, Cheryl and company won’t keep students on campus any longer than census. They just want to ensure the fall semester money. Hopefully not too many will become infected and/or die during that time.
August 3, 2020 at 9:29am Has anyone considered the fact that they are releasing prisoners due to the dangers of COVID and transmission in an institutional environment but it is okay that students are getting ready to go back?
July 30, 2020 at 9:20pm July 31, this is disturbing. Employees received raises? Students athletes receiving inflated scholarships? My personal opinion is that contact sports should be canceled. - Dodie Day
July 29, 2020 at 7:40pm Whether Lovell likes it not not, these meetings are public. No executive session announced. Whoever the hell wants to be there is legally allowed. I hope someone challenges her, legally, like Danny did with McClure. These power narcissists are unbelievable!
July 29, 2020 at 7:21pm Why would ASU care who was Zooming in? I also noticed that the concern expressed by classified employees, from areas that need to enter student housing or working closely with them had a reply, "It will be as normal." SAD - Dodie Day
July 29, 2020 at 6:31pm Everyone should read the recent article posted here about Colorado universities losing money on sports! "Coaches’ salaries increased by at least 15% at each of the schools" - which includes ASU. Coaches are getting paid 15% more and the rest of us get 2% or nothing? "Recruitment expenses, meanwhile, increased by at least 5% at every school that was included in the audit but CSU Pueblo." "The audit found each institution’s athletic expenses — which also include uniforms, travel, scholarships and other costs — are growing at a faster rate than the self-supporting revenue they bring in" Who cares about an education when ASU is fulfilling its true mission - entertainment.
July 29, 2020 at 6:18pm Dodie, at the start of one of the recent meetings, Dr. Lovell or someone asked if there were any reporters on the phone or something similar. And if so, asked them to leave since it was for employees only. I'm not defending, just passing on info.
July 28, 2020 at 7:37pm How do you feel about today's briefing? I heard, through the grapevine, that some joining the Zoom meeting where questioned who they were. Why in the world would you question anyone joining a Zoom meeting. Are we trying to hide something? - Dodie Day
July 28, 2020 at 12:58pm Re: July 28 @ 9:03 - Yeah, classic Cheryl Lovell: do as she says, not as she does. Is her contract almost up yet? How much longer must we tolerate poor leadership?
July 28, 2020 at 9:03am I don’t feel safe coming back. Most of the time, Dr. Lovell doesn’t even wear a mask. Maybe once baseball and softball resumes, she can throw out the first pitch - the same way she throws out the rule book.
July 23, 2020 at 10:28pm The back to work agreement makes it pretty clear, if we want to keep our job, we will return to work. The guidelines can stretch out the time you are no longer employed, but in the end you loose your job. Wondering why, at least one faculty member, is being allowed to teach their load through ASO. - Dodie Day
July 23, 2020 at 8:42pm Dear Dodie, Of course! I’m terrified. I am highly immune-compromised. There appears to be NO guidance for folks like us. It seems the president just wants folks back, regardless. I can appreciate she has a large private office and bathroom. That doesn’t help me much—or you. We cannot control what folks do on their off time. They can be going to parties, bars, whatever and coming back infecting us all. Same with other students. You say you have mixed feelings. I don’t. I can tell you unequivocally, this return is dangerous at best.
July 22, 2020 at 9:04pm Is anyone concerned about going back to work? I am back on campus and feel fairly safe. I am wearing a face mask. I am concerned about students coming back. I will turn 68 in January. Gosh, how do you all feel about being on campus? I have mixed feelings and concerns. - Dodie Day
July 12, 2020 at 3:40pm July 12 at 3:35pm - That reminds me of the question that Education Secretary DeVos answered so poorly: proficiency versus growth?
July 12, 2020 at 3:35pm Regarding the recent Erasing Equity Gaps with State Funding article posted here, does anyone know if the new state formula is based on percentage for targeted groups (minorities, Pell, etc.) or the increase in those numbers? The article mentions something like "Universities will get bonus points if they improve more than other institutions" three times. If this is correct, then the new formula could penalize institutions like ASU that are currently doing well with these specific metrics. It is much easier to "improve" if you already suck. An institution with no Black students can "improve" a great deal more (and more easily) than an institution that already has 70% Black students. Politicians have been confusing this difference for decades.
July 10, 2020 at 1:28pm I have not seen anything on the athletic website for who has been hired for the empty coaching openings or the co-athletic director spots?
July 10, 2020 at 9:05am Is there information on how much the Co-Athletic Directors are now making? I can only guess it’s higher than most other directors based on the President’s assertion that there was a minimal cost savings.
June 19, 2020 at 7:56am Happy Juneteenth, Adams State - Meagan Smith
June 14, 2020 at 9:06am The AAUP recently succeeded in convincing the Colorado Community College System to support unemployment applications for those faculty with courses cancelled on account of the pandemic or other reasons. Because this victory is underwritten by the Colorado Department of Labor and Employment, they believe this opportunity is available to all adjunct faculty regardless of institution. However, most adjunct/contingent faculty seem to be unaware that they are most likely able to apply successfully for unemployment insurance benefits it their classes were cancelled this summer. The money (regular unemployment of a few hundred per week PLUS $600/week from the federal Pandemic Unemployment Assistance program) is much needed by them now. It can be sought even if they have not yet applied for UI, and it will be effective from the last day of spring semester and run through the end of July. The U.S. Senate may extend the program to run through the end of 2020 due to the COVID-19 2nd wave.
May 20, 2020 at 9:29pm @May 20, 2020 at 10:21am - It’s sad for me to confirm what you said and I’m sorry it’s that way. You and every other student are the reason we have a job. Nobody communicates with us either, they hide possible COVID-19 cases from us and if anybody even suggests a possibility of a case they are severely excoriated. We have leadership focusing on if employees are carrying a bottle of disinfectant with them at all times and if one isn’t seen on their person it should be assumed no disinfectant is being used at all and one should be questioned as to the whereabouts of their spray bottle. The higher-ups are “above reproach” though. Their status makes them immune to COVID-19 apparently thus making their requirement of a spray bottle unnecessary. They’re practicing their methods of madness and totalitarianism on the few left on campus to be ready for the many upon their return. Welcome to the beginnings of a Post COVID-19 Dystopian ASU. Let me be the first to say thank you for caring enough about your future and your money to speak out. I hope “they” eventually communicate.
May 20, 2020 at 10:21am As a student, the higher-ups need to communicate with us better. I don't know how you can have students pay thousands of dollars for them to not be told about any changes, or necessary information. Seems like nobody really cares about us, just want to take our money and run. Can't tell you how much money has been taken from me because of others' failure to communicate. Some departments are fine, but I would love to see more effort from the president.
May 9, 2020 at 3:13am ASU’s plans to resume face-to-face instruction in Fall is a little concerning to me when they have tried their best to keep mum about Covid-19 related issues. Even just the mention of someone getting sent home due to possible symptoms of Coronavirus gets all of Housing extremely angry and in turn the one who mentions such cases gets excoriated. They put a lot of effort into keeping quiet about Covid-19 just like they did when the bedbug outbreak happened and they’re all in on it. ASU doesn’t care about their employees or the students when they cover up things and they’re very selective on whom they choose to protect. The higher ups put more effort into covering things up than they do in positive prevention yet they act as if they care about their staff.
May 8, 2020 at 4:58pm The Colorado Conference of the American Association of University Professors has released a statement: Protecting Colorado Faculty Throughout the Pandemic
May 6, 2020 at 11:23am Re: May 5 @ 5:45 - Interesting to see which positions/people are worth more than 72% of CUPA, especially the NEW major gifts officer. Weren’t some people forced to take pay cuts recently? This is simply sickening.
May 5, 2020 at 5:45pm Editor's Note: We have obtained and published ASU Faculty and Administrative CUPA Evaluations for 2019-2020.
May 4, 2020 at 9:36pm Word on the street is that Fort Lewis' president is going to reduce his own salary by 20%. I wonder if our president will do the same? At the very least, she could elect to forgo her "bonuses," but even this seems unlikely.
May 4, 2020 at 2:40pm May 1 @ 9:13 - maybe they work part time? Maybe they are taking a vacation day? Maybe they worked until 9pm the night before? Maybe they keep 8-5 hours? Maybe we don’t know their story or what their supervisor has approved. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure there is nefarious activity, but let’s give people the benefit of the doubt. As the engine that runs this institution, we need to stick together to get through yet one more bad hire (and her minions) by the Board.
May 4, 2020 at 2:10pm @May 1, 2020 at 8:54am - Of course they are coming, there are no students on campus and I am betting there will be very few on campus this fall. Brick and Mortar is a thing of the past. The world has changed and things are not going to be the same. Time for Adams State to either pivot or fade away. Remote learning is going to be the norm. Society has changed and traditional education providers, not only Adams, were struggling to attract on campus students even before this pandemic. Without on-campus students, the need for housing and facilities is severely impacted. The need for dorms and classrooms disappear. The food service people will not be needed either. I know they are not ASU employees but they are part of the ASU community. With the lack of on campus students, the need for things like the gym and library are also diminished. The professors and administration will be the ones left in the end. The status quo will no longer be enough people. ASU can make it but not the way it has been making it for the last 99 years. I am also guessing it is just a matter of time before ASU students come calling for their housing and student fees to be refunded as well. It is happening elsewhere so it is just a matter of time.
May 1, 2020 at 9:13am Why is it that work-at-home people from ASU are out shopping and running around between 8-5? Looks just like they used to go to work. Same repeat offenders.
May 1, 2020 at 8:54am Word going around this week is that furloughs are imminent. More discussions to be had next week supposedly.
April 24, 2020 at 11:25am And it wasn't only the coaches who took pay cuts: "The release also noted campus leaders, including University President Mark Kennedy, are taking pay cuts at this time as well." Now that's solid leadership.
April 23, 2020 at 4:24pm Good start, CU. Adams could take a lesson. CU AD George, coaches Dorrell, Boyle and Payne to take pay cuts
April 23, 2020 at 7:48am Mixed messages from ASU: normally we hear sports make money; now we hear we are saving money since athletes aren't traveling. Administration wants to streamline and cut things we have been living without in this time of corona. Sports should be first. Save lots of money on coaches, trainers, facilities, scholarships. If we are online in the fall, sports won't exist anyway.
April 12, 2020 at 8:30am I agree with April 9 5:14. How can the Board give our president bonuses when students don't have the resources they need? Students should come first. Dr. Lovell should voluntarily forego her bonuses. And yes, a 7% cut in administrative salaries would leave money for more important employees.
April 9, 2020 at 8:14pm I am not a fan of Dr. Lovell. I think she is doing her best. On the other side of the coin, there is no excuse for not doing your job. The SUB is open and internet is available. Stop making excuses. - Dodie Day
April 9, 2020 at 5:14pm Just watched the campus update. Overall pretty good. But here’s a serious idea to realize cost savings and budget priorities: Cheryl Lovell forgoes any bonuses for the next two years and we cut bloated administrative salaries by 7% — let’s say anyone whose contractual base amount is $80,000 or more. Oh and I think it’s time for the president to go do what presidents do: fund raise. Leave the operations to Dr. Buchanan and Kevin. She spends too much time dabbling in the minutiae — just like Svaldi and McClure.
April 7, 2020 at 8:08am Furlough, anyone? I heard they are coming and have already hitting other campuses.
April 6, 2020 at 10:22pm Okay ASU “leadership,” can ya give us a directive based on the governor’s newest stay at home directive? We don’t trust your backstabbing, vindictive asses. Just sayin'.
March 29, 2020 at 7:10pm It is amazing to me, but not surprising, that COVID-19 has highlighted all the existing inequities and exploitation on university campuses like ASU... and made them a matter of life and death.
March 29, 2020 at 6:45pm There are those who have no choice but to show up if they want to get paid or not lose leave time. A walkout should be staged but most won’t do it. It’s always said "nobody is irreplaceable" and that’s true but their health isn’t replaceable. There’s still a lot of people showing up in buildings, especially in the evenings. Hopefully it will come to a stop.
March 28, 2020 at 5:44pm Didn't go silent. Governor Polis put an order in place and I am following it, as is ASU. ASU has followed every order issued from the state. Working from home with an ASU computer. I prefer working from my office on campus, but appreciate all the effort by ASU to make this work so we all continue to get a paycheck. - Dodie Day
March 26, 2020 at 6:52pm Now that all those deemed important get to go home, this place goes silent.
March 25, 2020 at 10:17pm Essential yet the least paid. Accommodating and dealing with every single person who violated the building closures. Being herded like cattle to work in groups. Being spread too thin by the few who keep their hands clean by staying in their offices or driving their company vehicles. They have practiced social distancing all their career out of sheer laziness and their false walls of vainglory held together by their puny yet overreaching authority. Then told by an authority figure this is how we provide for our families. How do we provide comfort for their fears of our well-being when they see we are a human shield forced to choose to lessen the risk by depleting our leave or continue to provide more money while bringing home more risk to all? When has a scorpion and a dove both thrived when being held in the same hand?
March 25, 2020 at 7:50pm Leadership is still expecting all facilities services to show up even though the PDQs list most of them as nonessential.
March 25, 2020 at 5:22pm Governor Polis just issued a stay at home order effective at 6am tomorrow morning. The announcement made not quite an hour ago. I cannot believe that the ASU administration haven't been having conversations about this possibility. Yet, crickets... not one word! What we wouldn't give for true leadership at this institution. So discouraging and disappointing.
March 25, 2020 at 12:47pm It's quite clear that the President doesn't care about the employees nor the students wandering in and out of buildings. It is YOUR job to keep everyone out of harm's way, even if they don't know better or have a life outside of this campus. How do you do this, you may ask? LOCK DOWN THE CAMPUS, CLOSE THE DOORS TO ALL! Let us protect OUR families. What is it that you are missing here?
March 25, 2020 at 11:30am SLV Health was just over here at Richardson loading up hospital beds from the Nursing program in preparation and yet all over campus there are free-range students and kids roaming the halls. While nationwide we have police officers guarding tissue paper and limiting customers to one pack. Ridiculous. Why are we still open?
March 25, 2020 at 11:09am ASU issue follows this brief excerpt from an AAUP email: "The AAUP has put together a coronavirus information web page for AAUP members and the higher education community. We have been collecting resources from the government, other higher education organizations, and our chapters to help all of us respond to this challenge. We will continue to add to the page as new resources become available." "As many of you know, some administrations have been leaving the faculty out of decisions pertaining to curriculum and program, online teaching and intellectual property, and the faculty role in navigating the financial impact of COVID-19 on our campuses. Faculty governance bodies and academic unions must insist on involvement in decision-making about the effects that this crisis is having on our campuses, and we will be sharing guidance from the national AAUP, as well as strategies some of our chapters have developed as they grapple with the crisis." ASU note: Although I personally think ASU's administration has done a reasonable job of seeking employee feedback related to COVID, an issue came up at Senate yesterday. Should faculty be given the option to leave this semester's student evaluations out of retention, tenure, and promotion materials? Please share any feedback you have with your faculty senator. The rationale for such a policy includes: abrupt change to online delivery, variability in instructors' prior experience with online, factors outside our control such as tech problems, the possibility that evaluations will be affected by the economic and physical / psychological stress related to COVID / social distancing, and affects on evaluation response rate. I'm sure you can think of other factors. Stay positive, stay healthy! I'm so impressed by how well everyone is rallying to support our students. MVPs: AITC!!! - Jeff Elison
March 25, 2020 at 10:54am Why are there still students in the building on a daily basis?
March 23, 2020 at 9:38pm Dodie, who else enters that locked building? Who else uses that office? Who touches the railings, door handles, bathroom surfaces? Who all have they come into contact with? You feel safe, but do you know who else has access to these same facilities? Have they been tested? Have you? Your feeling of safety may be part of what is unsafe. Please find a way to stay home. Right now, we all have duties to our healthcare system, and to each other, that exceed those of our employer.
March 23, 2020 at 9:16pm I feel very safe going to work. I cannot completely perform my duties from home. I enter a locked building. I enter a locked office. I feel very safe. - Dodie Day
March 23, 2020 at 1:15pm @March 23, 2020 at 7:27am - They determined that with all the people gone already they’re past the 50% necessary. They have professors coming back from California and New York and someone told me someone from Facilities might have it, as well. People are asking questions and the best answers they have gotten so far is no response at all.
March 23, 2020 at 7:27am The Governor has ordered no more than 50% of non-essential staff to come into work. I can’t wait to see how ASU handles this! Stay tuned to Looney Tunes.
March 22, 2020 at 9:03pm Send us home!
March 20, 2020 at 1:31pm @ March 19, 2020 at 3:34pm - Totally agree and Plachy or any other building on campus be used as an ad hoc Boys & Girls Club.
March 20, 2020 at 1:17pm I really wish President Lovell would take A LITERAL PLAGUE seriously.
March 19, 2020 at 3:34pm "Adams State Nielsen Library will remain open to students and employees, but with limited hours. Your campus ID will be required to enter Nielsen Library." Under no conditions should any library, as a social gathering place, remain open. Data points for your consideration: Academic libraries already closed or closing in Colorado: CU-Boulder; CSU-Pueblo; UC-Colorado Springs; Auraria; School of Mines; Western Colorado; Colorado College; possibly others? National and regional associations calling for library closure: - American Library Association: Statement Recommending Closing Libraries (http://www.ala.org/news/press-releases/2020/03/ala-executive-board-recommends-closing-libraries-public) - Association of College & Research Libraries (ACRL) (https://www.acrl.ala.org/acrlinsider/archives/19351) - Association for Rural and Small Libraries (ARSL) (https://arsl.info/arsl-statement-on-library-closures/) - Association of Research Libraries (ARL) - no formal statement, but see growing list of closures (https://www.arl.org/resources/covid-19-resource-updates-pages/) - Colorado Association of Libraries: Statement on COVID-19 (https://cal-webs.org/) Editorials and blog posts: - Director of MIT Libraries (https://chrisbourg.wordpress.com/) - Library Journal (https://www.libraryjournal.com/?detailStory=close-your-library-editorial)
March 19, 2020 at 7:48am This is why it is foolish for the ASU administration to believe its safe to open its doors to face to face classes at all this semester. This is exactly what the nurse was talking about in the campus wide meeting. If the “leadership” thinks that students can’t take can extended spring break and still manage their online classes, then they are more foolish than any of us believed. ‘If I get corona, I get corona’: Miami spring breakers say covid-19 hasn’t stopped them from partying I hope Dr. Lovell stands at the entrance and shakes every one of their hands upon their return.
March 17, 2020 at 5:20pm Some presidents put money and power before the health of those under their leadership: Trump, Maduro, ... They lack compassion. They put others at risk with their denials and slow responses. #QuitWaffling
March 16, 2020 at 10:47pm @March 16, 2020 at 10:30 pm - I agree completely but I understand that the only language that tickles their ears is money talk. In order to be of service to the students we all should be sent home too. It’s not worth staying open just to decimate faculty and staff. People who have to go back to work under these conditions are already stressed out to the point they’re practically unapproachable never mind social distancing. The stress of being there under such conditions is creating a hostile work environment but do they care? #QuitWaffling
March 16, 2020 at 10:40pm So far no counties in the SLV have reported coronavirus cases. Bringing hundreds of students back to the SLV after visiting home far and wide during the peak acceleration of the spread is pretty much guaranteed to bring the virus to the SLV and literally cost lives of local residents.
March 16, 2020 at 10:30pm Dear March 16th, It's not in the best interest of humanity to reopen this semester, nevermind financially. It's irresponsible morally and ethically to reopen. In terms of our ethical obligations to students, the sooner administration makes the decision, the sooner staff and faculty can start taking the necessary steps to minimize the impact on our students' educations. Full stop. #QuitWaffling
March 16, 2020 at 6:33pm The Dow plunged nearly 3,000 points today and it’s suggested all people stay home from school and work for the next 15 days. So is it in the best interest financially to keep ASU open?
March 15, 2020 at 6:07pm Having to hear the president say that all students and faculty need to stay home for their safety but then saying all staff must return to business as usual is a low blow. I knew I was valued less than faculty but I mistakenly thought Adams State cared about staff, too.
March 13, 2020 at 10:50am So those who constantly call in from work and find every excuse not to be here get rewarded. Oh, but they’ll have to work from home? I wonder if they’ll show up to work to avoid work?
March 13, 2020 at 10:44am I like how Dr. Lovell smugly said she’s not an essential employee so she doesn’t have to be at work. You’re right about that, Dr. Lovell, this place is a snake that doesn’t need its head to survive. I just wish it was spelled “e$ential” for those who have to be here.
March 12, 2020 at 2:50pm Why wouldn't ASU go into a strictly online delivery? I thought we had this really great Extended Studies platform that monitors delivery of education online through a multi-faceted approach of quality assurance checks and balances.
March 12, 2020 at 9:58am The World Health Organization recommends avoiding public gatherings if at all possible. So what does Adams State do? They call a public forum to discuss Coronavirus. Unbelievable.
March 12, 2020 at 7:44am Dear March 11th, we have nothing to worry about, we are in the best of hands: "If you know you’ve been exposed or if you exhibit symptoms of COVID-19 virus, students should immediately notify Vice President for Student Affairs Ken Marquez before returning to campus, and faculty and staff should immediately notify Tracy Rogers in Human Resources." With quality healthcare professionals like Ken and Tracy at the helm, we safely sail into uncharted waters! What could go wrong?
March 11, 2020 at 5:50pm Institutions of higher education are closing their doors across the nation, and now in Colorado are moving to an online format. Yet Adams State’s official response today? “It is important to repeat, however, that as of today it is business-as-usual for Adams State and the campus has not been impacted by COVID-19 at this time.” Smart? Foolish? 1. Many individuals, if they present symptoms, don’t do so for a couple of weeks. 2. Society — including folks in the SLV — is mobile and many individuals could have traveled outside of the Valley and been exposed already or still might. 3. Dozens of visitors have come to campus and the community already, perhaps already exposing us and we don’t know it. 4. Students, as well as many faculty and staff, are going to travel for spring break and have the potential to be exposed. There appears to be NO plans to test them upon their return. 5. Students and faculty are still traveling domestically for university business and run the risk of exposure. In fact, three TSA agents in San Jose have already been diagnosed. There will be more. 6. There are many other realities of this disease we are only beginning to understand. Smart or Foolish? I wonder if there are costs associated with the brave moves other institutions across the nation and state have made. Of course this would impact the budget and potentially President Lovell’s anticipated bonus. Whatever the motivations, one has to wonder about what seem to be increasingly stupid decisions.
March 10, 2020 at 7:43am From the AAUP: As we are learning, COVID-19 (the coronavirus) has the potential to present a serious challenge to the health and safety of our campus communities. At this time, campuses in Washington State, New York State, California, Nebraska, and elsewhere have closed or moved to all-online teaching, and a number of study-abroad programs have been cut short or suspended altogether. Administrations are taking the potential health impact of the virus seriously, and we applaud their efforts to do so. The safety of the students, the staff, and the faculty should be everyone’s primary concern. We are hearing from AAUP members, however, that decisions to close campuses or to move to an all-online model for the short term are being made without adequate faculty involvement in decision-making. The AAUP’s 1966 Statement on Government of Colleges and Universities makes clear that “the faculty has primary responsibility for such fundamental areas as curriculum, subject matter and methods of instruction, . . . and those aspects of student life which relate to the educational process.” In certain situations, it is necessary to close a campus or move to online instruction to safeguard the health of the campus community. Faculty and academic staff—through their shared governance bodies or, when applicable, their unions—should be consulted on how best to implement this decision. In order to ensure full participation, administrations should share information with faculty and seek input from the appropriate faculty bodies. In cases where the institution is moving to an all-online model to avoid virus transmission on campus, it is incumbent on administrations to provide all instructional faculty with the appropriate software and training. Administrations should also consider the needs and limitations of students, who may lack access to the internet or face other obstacles to completing their coursework remotely. It is hard to know what the ultimate impact of COVID-19 will be on our campuses. The administration should provide the appropriate faculty body—the union or the governance body—with information regarding the impact of COVID-19 on enrollments, revenues, and hiring and renewals. In the spirit of the AAUP’s One Faculty campaign, we encourage our chapters to be especially sensitive to how these closures and any future curtailment of programs could affect our colleagues on full-time non-tenure-track or part-time contingent appointments. The AAUP has developed a web page with resources on COVID-19. We will continue to update this page as new resources become available. We also ask that chapters share information with us about what is being done on their campus and what the chapter or faculty senate’s role has been in decision-making around campus closures and the implementation of all-online teaching. In solidarity, Rudy Fichtenbaum AAUP President
February 28, 2020 at 5:29pm It’s an absolute shame to watch an institution of higher learning fall prey to the same moral pitfalls plaguing exploitative major corporations. High turnover, poor treatment and compensation of staff, dissatisfied customers (students) and a downward spiral across all markers of success. I’ve seen it before. You won’t increase enrollment with underpaid, overworked staff. You won’t increase output without investment. You won’t build a successful, thriving institution through cutbacks and austerity measures. It. Never. Works. A sacrifice may need to be made to save Adams State, but it should be made holistically and in a way that does not disproportionately affect individuals who depend on the institution for their livelihood or education. As a country, we are following GDP off a cliff at the expense of our planet and health. As a school, Adams State is following enrollment off a cliff at the expense of students and teachers.
February 27, 2020 at 7:41am Why? Because the president won't listen to input from anyone? Because she thinks she knows everything? Because she is so out of touch with what employees actually do? I heard she showed up at senate and tried to enlighten senators on the scholarship of teaching. Because her greatest financial achievement has been refinancing, just kicking our problems down the road? Because she has failed to drain the swamp? Because she has no empathy for employees, instead condescending to us? Because she managed to drop our already low morale even lower? She's doing a great job.
February 24, 2020 at 6:50pm If President Lovell gets a bonus, the Board really isn't doing its job.
February 11, 2020 at 7:00pm It is so wonderful to see students involved in campus culture and policy. They wrote a compelling letter. I'm sure it will garner the attention of the president and board of trustees.
February 8, 2020 at 1:05pm I see that Counselor Education is bringing a stress management expert to ASU on February 21st. That's great! Will Mr. Osincup be offering individualized sessions for ASU faculty and staff being squeezed by the corporate, top-down governance model being imposed on campus at the expense of shared governance and valuing employees?
January 27, 2020 at 5:32pm The president's request for an unranked list of pros and cons for the VPAA candidates is yet another example of declining shared governance at ASU. Were she to receive a ranked list it would make it too obvious if she ignored input from faculty and staff. Past Boards and presidents have done that at ASU's expense, for example hiring McClure.
January 23, 2020 at 8:03am RE: 1/22 8:25 - ASU has been careening down a path of self-destruction for years, but Lovell is about to steer us over the edge of the cliff. We will never recover from the damage of a 60% tenure policy. Her decision, which no one outside of administration seems to support, will result in our revolving door of instructors spinning ever faster. Students and faculty will pay the price and she will reap the bonus. What she is doing is clear. Everyone should attend Tuesday's Faculty Senate meeting at 4:00pm, Richardson Hall 3rd floor. The president is scheduled to present her brilliant plan to make us the Walmart of Colorado higher education.
January 22, 2020 at 6:03pm Re: January 22 @8:25 - Yet we keep on paying those ridiculous administrative salaries for no productivity or return on that investment (eg Karla Hardesty). Because, ya know, administrators are why students come to ASU. Geesh!
January 22, 2020 at 8:25am Word on the chilly streets of Alamosa is that the Prez, who is pulling in over $300k a year, is going to cut ASU faculty to 60% tenure or tenure track. Welcome to market solutions! Instead of digging in and supporting those of us who make the institution run, they're simply going to outsource teaching to adjuncts and lecturers. What does this mean for students? In all likelihood, a reduction in quality of service. Fully time adjuncts and lectures hardly make enough to pay the bills, which means that turn over will be even higher, searchers for faculty will be constant, and the quality of instruction will suffer. The future of ASU has never looked so beak. It's worth remembering that all of this began back in 2015 when Svaldi told the presidential search committee that ASU needed a "market solution" to lead the institution forward. That advice led to McClure, who promptly directed ASU into a nosedive. Remember her idea of a brewery on the river? And now we have Lovell, who, although much more stable than McClure, seems convinced that the best way to save ASU is by becoming the highest paid president in ASU history while simultaneously reducing the cost of instruction and transferring the cost of benefits onto the backs of faculty and staff. How much worse could it possibly get? A word of advice to job candidates interviewing at ASU, don't take the bait! Stay in grad school or keep adjuncting elsewhere while applying to jobs. But whatever you do, don't assume ASU will be a step to a big, better job. At this point, it won't be. It'll simply be a blotch on your resume that you'll never be able to remove.
January 13, 2020 at 10:21pm Why would a school with only a 29% (maybe lower?) graduation rate not adopt proven ways to help students succeed? For example, if an online learning module is demonstrated to be easier to use and increasingly used by top institutions (Canvas), why would you insist on using something (Blackboard) that is more difficult to use? Choosing a less user-friendly user module essentially discriminates against people with light sensitivity, people of a certain age who have more challenges with online systems, and people with learning disabilities. Anyone who has used the two systems will agree that Canvas is easier to use. What could be the rationale for using Blackboard, unless a decision-maker has personal stake? “Blackboard was at turns frustrating, migraine-inducing, and burdensome. Which isn’t to say Blackboard wasn’t innovative. It was, back in the day. Unfortunately, that day was around 2004.” - The Reeducation of Blackboard, Everyone's Classroom Pariah - Wired “Canvas has unseated Blackboard Learn as the leading LMS at U.S. colleges and universities, according to new data from MindWires Consulting.” - Canvas Catches, and Maybe Passes, Blackboard - Inside Higher Education
January 13, 2020 at 10:02pm Why are the "Grizzlies" so grouchy? (: I feel like I stepped into a snake pit. Wish I never applied to Adams State University. Maybe it's the cold climate that makes admin so mean. Bad vibe from upper levels of mgmt. Some of the staff seem overworked and annoyed by students' questions. Some staff and department heads are unfriendly to online students. This is a school where you can apply, register for, and drop classes all online -- without ever speaking to another HUMAN. They are not trying to make things better for students' learning experiences. It's very IMPERSONAL, and they do not care about individual students, because they have a waiting list of other students to fill the online spaces. If you drop your classes (because of their cold, defensive, almost scary attitudes), they will make money off of you AND the next person. They have no motivation to improve their systems or communication styles because students are replaceable.
December 30, 2019 at 11:31am To a couple recent points- As far as Karla, you forgot nepotism- how could she be fired when Ken's daughter works directly for her? And of the "$9 million increase"- how much of that is due to the horrible decision to recently refinance their debt and get cash in hand now only to totally condemn the future? Assets vs. Liabilities Chris and Heather? They are too dishonest to paint the true financial picture and the trustees are too stupid to ask the hard questions.
December 18, 2019 at 8:52am It's wonderful to hear we are up by 9 million dollars. Now we can all get 5% raises or more.
December 17, 2019 at 8:27am I wondered how they could justify banning men from the REX, but I never cared enough to ask. I guess the answer is they can't.
December 11, 2019 at 6:43am Who developed the sexual harassment definitions at ASU? Was it the OEO/Title IX? I feel that office may have used overly broad definitions in the past so I was wondering if that is the case this time?
November 22, 2019 at 1:52pm Another advisee complained to me today about their experiences with a past visiting professor. During a one year contract, visiting professors probably only teach 150-200 students. A little sub-par teaching of those students hardly matters. What was it the Senior BS Analyst wrote yesterday about excellence?
November 21, 2019 at 4:11am Top 5 Reasons Karla Hardesty Has Not Been Fired (Written by our Senior BS Analyst in the field) It confused me for some time as to why Karla Hardesty has not been fired. In any other industry when that division is performing poorly, new leadership is always brought in. So why then, can a person be failing so miserably at their job, yet continue on? Here are my top 5 reasons why Karla Hardly has not been fired. 1. Nationwide trends. Since Universities across the country are facing similar issues, we can hardly blame one person at our less than prestigious University. 2. The accreditation debacle. How can we blame her when the University as a whole was making very poor unethical decisions? 3. Narcissism. The current and previous president’s share a similar behavior. They believe that they ultimately know all the answers. They do not look to other people on their team to solve big problems. They believe they alone have all the answers and they look to the people on their team to just execute their ideas. Therefore, Karla isn’t expected to solve the problems, she just needs to demonstrate she is doing what they tell her to do. 4. Problems everywhere. Enrollment has been one of many, many problems the university faces. Complaints abound from everywhere on campus. There are so many problems to solve, it’s hard to just focus in on this one. 5. Lack of stability. With all the turmoil that had occurred, leadership erroneously may believe that a public firing could bring unwanted attention. The desire to just have stability is so strong that a status quo environment ensues. The thinking errors here pile up and give Karla Hardesty job security. This is as much an organizational culture issue as anything else. The university DOES NOT pursue excellence as a standard. It pursues stability. They have no understanding that pursuing excellence WOULD give them stability. I would go on with what pursuing excellence would look like, but #3 exists. We already think we know. ASU needs to wholeheartedly embrace a culture of excellence. Don’t just graduate students and pat yourself on the back because they are first generation or low income. Bring them to a higher level! Start with creating that higher within your leadership. This boils down to one thing. Even if this is a nationwide issue, ASU needs someone in that position that can and will figure it out. Clearly, Karla is not that person!
November 20, 2019 at 8:09pm Thank you for your feedback. - Dodie Day
November 20, 2019 at 6:25pm No, Dodie, it’s never too soon to worry about enrollment...especially given our drastically overall declining rates these past few years. And to suggest that you are “thinking and hoping for only a 3% drop” isn’t acceptable either. This type of nonchalant attitude is part and parcel of what got us here. This and the fact that the any growth has been in dual enrollment, where enrollment is not guaranteed over time (and pointed out in earlier comments and commentaries). But then, you are not an enrollment management expert (as Karla isn’t either). You and her are no Eric Carpio, Michelle Romero or Dr. Mumper. You are a product of your time as Frank Novotny’s secretary. Period. And everyone knows his role in the decimation of ASU. Finally the point of my earlier comment wasn’t about whether or not spring would be salvageable, rather will ASU be salvageable once Karla is through. Stop reading into comments things and thoughts that aren’t there. It is irritating at best. At worst, well...your lack of knowledge shows. And that’s the nicest way I can put it.
November 19, 2019 at 7:16pm Too soon to be concerned about enrollment for Spring 2020. We always lose freshmen. The students who are pushed by parents, being offered a very small scholarship to play a sport and get discouraged because they are a red shirt, or they realize they don't have the skills to succeed. This will always be the case due to our mission. I think and hope we are only down 3% Spring 2020. - Dodie Day
November 19, 2019 at 5:16pm Happy Thanksgiving from the prez. Oh and btw continue to do Karla Hardesty’s job. Cause, ya know, she’s so freaking competent — I mean we are potentially down 540 MORE students this spring. Seriously... when will she be fired?
November 18, 2019 at 10:41pm In Dr. Gilmer's short time at Adams State, he spearheaded several initiatives like creating the National Center for Historically Underserved Students, advocated for the Hall of Research in McDaniel Hall, and shined some much-needed sunlight onto Extended Studies with the Mathieu Report. While not perfect and only at ASU for just over a semester before being chased out by McClure and her minions, Dr. Gilmer was eminently qualified and deeply understood ASU's mission in ways that Dr. McClure never did and likely never could. He also didn't violate people's civil rights, publicly insult ASU's accreditor, lie countless times on impulse, and leave the institution in much worse shape than he found it. McClure did all of those things. It's entirely false equivocation to believe they are two figures in some comparative middle with respect to one another. That's not remotely descriptive of the reality born out by the evidence. Such a conclusion isn't "absolutist" if it's broadly and factually true.
November 18, 2019 at 9:45pm Regarding previous comment. I left Adams State in 2018 and what I still cannot comprehend is that "absolute" rhetoric - quite common to the western civilization in general - that is so prevalent at Adams State. Dr. Gilmer was portrayed as a combination of every great thing that can happen - he is gay, he is eloquent, he is innovative. Ok, well, Dr. Gilmer did not do a thing - not even looked at my retention folder. And Dr. McClure - after her resignation of course - was the essence of pure evil, if you listen to some people. Truth is that neither of these descriptions are accurate. Nor they do any good to students or faculty. Nor they are constructive. The fact that he got an award means very little, to be honest. If you want to argue otherwise, well - Dr. McClure had quite a few of these. All faculty and administrators will acquire several awards in their professional lifetime. They mean nothing, but actions that precede them do. I am not defending them. In the current financial situation and prior history Adams State is unlikely to attract great leaders to come and to serve in senior academic positions. So people have to learn how to deal with each other and perhaps refrain from dichotomizing people and events.
November 14, 2019 at 11:50pm Dr. Chris Gilmer, President of West Virginia University at Parkersburg, won an award tonight for Business Leader of the Year. Imagine what awards, recognition, and positive change Dr. Gilmer could have brought to Adams State University if he weren't run off campus, like so many others, by a corrosive workplace culture and vindictive administrators. Dr. Gilmer is just another example of "Great Stories Begin Here... and Get Better Somewhere Else!"
November 14, 2019 at 7:47pm I really wish someone would enlighten me and others who weren’t able to attend the all campus meeting as to what happened!? President Lovell “learn”?!? Have you met her? She is a know it all bully. She really dislikes to be questioned, challenged or otherwise told she’s wrong. Her senior staff get that. Just ask the yes-women (and Kevin). Conferences? Do tell! From what I understand, Lovell LOVES conferences herself. Seriously when is she here? And how much fundraising has she accomplished during that travel (which by the way costs the institution significant dollars)? Perhaps WA should do an open records request for that! Regarding the follow up “survey”. One of the most poorly constructed instruments I’ve ever seen! I said so in my responses. And I didn’t hold back on my criticism of the “leadership” (what an oxymoron). Let’s see if I get fired. Stay tuned!
November 14, 2019 at 7:15am The real question is what did President Lovell learn from the Great Colleges campus update meeting? Anything? Based on the categories where we fell short, upper administration should be paying close attention.
November 13, 2019 at 11:44am My Great Colleges To Work For Survey came in this morning. Yay! A new way to silence us!!! Here’s what mine said when I clicked on the link: "You need permission - This form can only be viewed by users in the owner's organization. Try contacting the owner of the form if you think this is a mistake. Learn More."
November 12, 2019 at 11:25am What’s with President Lovell displaying social disparity and cutting people off during today’s All Campus Meeting? You know where you can fix things President Lovell? Stop paying people to go to conferences which will never translate into them being more knowledgeable or productive when they get back to work. They just treat it as time off from work and real life and will resume their malingering and taking time off. Yesterday a lot of people were off. Abuse of flex time is another way ASU is being destroyed from within.
November 11, 2019 at 11:31am Why are the names of the VPAA finalists a secret?
November 9, 2019 at 9:11am My daughter graduated from ASU in 2015 with her nursing degree. She has had an incredible number of job opportunities, including an offer before she even graduated or passed the NCLEX. She wanted to sample different types of work and needed to move with her husband after getting married, and nursing allowed her to do that. She's worked 5 different jobs, including Director of Nursing. When she needed to move, they practically offered her the job over the phone. She and her proud father are very pleased. I can't think of any other profs' children who have gone here, but I wouldn't necessarily know if they had. The fact that ASU is the only institution in the state that doesn't offer at least 50% (if not 100%) tuition remission for our kids does little to motivate their attendance here. BTW, ASU's Nursing Department's NCLEX pass rates for the last two years have been 94.44% (of 18 students) and 86.36 (of 22 students), a huge increase from the 40-68% rates during 2013-2016. Way to go Nursing! - Jeff Elison
November 8, 2019 at 7:15am I've never been in a class with a teacher's kid. Where do ASU teachers send them?
October 25, 2019 at 6:06 am Wow, looks like we are no longer a Teacher Ed college and are now a Business college?
October 24, 2019 at 7:24pm Editor's Note: We have obtained ASU undergraduate/graduate department enrollment from 2015-2019.
October 20, 2019 at 6:06pm Right there with you, 5:45pm on the 19th. Our president didn't even acknowledge a graduate from our prison program whose parents made a sustainable contribution to ASU. There was a picture in the A Stater, no president though. - Dodie Day
October 19, 2019 at 5:45pm Replying to the comment from October 17, 2019 at 10:15pm - Salazar benefited from all these equity bullshit workshops. Do you need a fancy facility to talk about equity and shit? I always was surprised by the ratio of equity talk and lack of that in everyday operation of the school. It looks like they are inversely proportional. But ASU get tons of Title V support... okay, I got it. One instance surprised me the most. One of the four finalists for the president's position was Salazar’s wife. She was obviously clueless. I still don’t get why she was chosen. Okay, maybe there are politics. But why none of the senior faculty said anything about it, is unclean to me. You are sinking your own ship.
October 19, 2019 at 5:44pm I have been on vacation the last two weeks. Looks like numbers were released. I believe numbers should be released by department. What departments are attracting students? - Dodie Day -- Editor's Reply: We have filed an open records request for all ASU undergraduate/graduate department enrollment from 2015-2019. We will publish any updated information we receive.
October 18, 2019 at 7:35pm "...We need and want teachers and scholars who would unhesitatingly come to the defense of the 'odd ball', the heretic, the dissenter, the troublemaker, whose freedom to speak and to write is under some threat from colleagues, administrators, governing board, government, or pressure groups. ...One of the most important tasks of true, freedom-and-progress-loving scholars is to come to the aid of a troublemaker under attack." -AAUP President Fritz Machlup, 1964
October 17, 2019 at 10:15pm Speaking of the Trump administration, the White House's announcement to host next year's G7 Summit at Donald Trump's Miami resort... is right out of Arnold Salazar's playbook by personally profiting from a campus equity retreat while serving as ASU Board Chair!
October 16, 2019 at 6:40pm The enrollment numbers are worse than expected. That must be the reason they were moved to the top secret server, or was that the Trump administration? I get confused.
October 16, 2019 at 7:40am The "Reading Between the Lines" commentary is helpful to put the latest enrollment numbers in perspective, but the new "Fall 2018-2019 Comparison" file is much more alarming. With comparable categories, you can see: - "Full-time" enrollment, which is probably the traditional benchmark, is down 110 students. A whopping 7.5% decline from last fall. - Similarly "Headcount" is down 95 students, 4.7%. - "FTE" is down 121, 6% I guess administration can be proud of budgeting for a 5% decline and just about achieving it.
October 14, 2019 at 12:20pm So instead of "Adams State attracts 513 new students," a more honest headline would read, "Adams State attracts 65 fewer new students than last year and 173 fewer than in 2015." 686 new freshman down to 513 is a drop of 25% in five years, folks... and still declining.
October 11, 2019 at 8:27am Yes, very dishonest reporting. Note the spin in their press release. The headline "Adams State attracts 513 new students" is ambiguous, making it sound like they grew by 513. This gem, "Adams State’s student population mirrors national trends, where the number of students seeking graduate degrees is growing faster than the undergraduate student population," makes it sound like undergraduate enrollment grew when it actually shrank, just like the national trend.
October 10, 2019 at 3:10pm Re: October 10 @ 1:30 - Those 236 aren’t just “undeclared” they are dual enrollment — high school students taking a course here and there that satisfy high school and guaranteed transfer requirements. A few of them will matriculate but not the majority. Yes, very dangerous (and dishonest) reporting indeed.
October 10, 2019 at 1:30pm A few things stand out from the Fall 2019 enrollment numbers. (1) ASU clearly wanted to hide the bad news, which is, things haven't improved and in fact, they've probably gotten worse. If this weren't true, they would have simply reported the numbers as opposed to creating new categories and stalling the release. (2) Enrollment appears to be at 1,908 students, which is apparently up from 1,710 students in Fall 2018. BUT, that is only if you include undeclared majors in the equation. Since 2016, undeclared majors have increased from 27 to 236 but they only take an average of 4.2 credits per semester. This is a dangerous trend in a higher ed environment in which credit hours per student are the best predictor of revenue generated. (3) If you take out undeclared majors, and simply compare enrollment of 1-4 year students, enrollment is down 8% from 2016 to 2019. That's a much more accurate way of looking at the overall picture. (4) It's not all bad news. Although impossible to know for sure based on the way figures were presented this year, it appears that ASU's headcount is up 3% from last fall. It's likely that this isn't entirely accurate because it seems as if some heads are being counted multiple times but if nothing else, this reveals that enrollment may be stabilizing at ASU. (5) ASU's administration continues to fail its faculty, staff and students by refusing to provide transparent numbers. This is a major problem for an institution that is ostensibly trying to regain trust on a campus that has a hard time remembering what trust means in the first place.
October 7, 2019 at 7:24am Related to free tuition, I half jokingly pointed out at the benefits meeting that voting for Sanders could lower our growing health care costs. That applies to Warren, too. Can you imagine a prescription drug cost limit of $200/person/year (Sanders' plan)? The pharmaceutical companies are pulling in piles of cash while students and higher ed employees struggle. - Jeff Elison
October 6, 2019 at 7:05pm @October 6, 2019 at 10:17am - This might be a case where we should take your apparent sarcasm seriously. Tuition-free college is the logical, policy-based extension of tuition-free K-12 schools. For all the reasons we have public grade schools (social mobility, economic opportunity, level of education likely to be a successful individual), we should also have tuition-free college. This isn't only an Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders idea; Governor Polis has also advocated for tuition-free 2 year college for Coloradans. Given the population it serves, ASU and the surrounding SLV community would benefit tremendously from a tuition-free college program. And in my opinion, Colorado shouldn't be among the eleven states spending more on prisons than on higher ed.
October 6, 2019 at 10:17am If we give everyone free tuition, we will increase our numbers. Maybe we should institute Elizabeth Warren’s ideas now! Free tuition leads to higher enrollment. Problem solved.
October 5, 2019 at 8:24pm Re: October 5 @ 6:51 - Yes, recruitment and retention are everyone’s job. Except Karla. #karlaforpresident
October 5, 2019 at 6:51pm HEY! Recruitment and retention is everyone's job. So go do it. But do it without the numbers to indicate how we are doing. Operating in the dark is so much better. At least for those who want to hide the numbers.
October 5, 2019 at 7:39am Administration can only delay the inevitable and not for very long. So ask yourself, Why bother delaying at all? My answer: They don’t want to release #’s until they’ve first figured out their plan for addressing them. It’s a form of administrative self-preservation. They must be seen to have all the answers up front, right? Reactionary decisions are being made behind closed doors right now without community input, without any dialogue. Their “solution”, hatched in isolation, will be imposed on the campus. It won’t be transformative. And it will likely involve pain (for others, not them). So the vicious cycle continues. If I’m off base, fine. But what else is one to think? We all know that holding back numbers is not a sign of anything good.
October 5, 2019 at 7:20am @Oct 4, 8:05am - “But community spirit is supported through trust, transparency, collaboration, and accountability; foundational components of a healthy institution that ASU just does not possess.“ That, in a sentence, is why I and so many others are no longer at ASU. Attrition isn’t just an issue with students. Dozens of faculty and staff who desired a healthy academic environment, who require trust and transparency in their daily life, and who strove to introduce the foundational components that were glaringly absent, were forced (literally) to conclude that the capacity was just not there. ASU just does not possess it. I still ask myself why this is. I believe your above statement encapsulates the one central issue ASU must take up - earnestly - if it is to survive the rural institutional purge that is inexorably marching toward its doorstep. I’ve been watching from afar for years now. Presidents and VPAAs come and go. Don’t see that anything fundamental has changed. Transparency, in all its painful glory: Give it a try. Release the numbers. Then talk about them. Together. Candidly.
October 4, 2019 at 8:05am The fact that aggregate enrollment numbers have not been made publicly available, let alone to faculty and staff, is deplorable. Shame on administration for keeping people in the dark - AGAIN! I can't help but think back to the Letter to the Editor in regards to "starting a movement". "Who wants to attend a school where the energy of the institution remains locked within the few blocks of the buildings?" - energy isn't the only thing locked in the buildings of this campus. I'm sure most will agree that they miss the "sense of community spirit". But community spirit is supported through trust, transparency, collaboration, and accountability; foundational components of a healthy institution that ASU just does not possess. Perhaps Dr. Seger or any other community member can go ask for enrollment numbers, since even public CORA requests have gone unanswered. We're all in this together right?
October 3, 2019 at 8:26pm Word on the street is that enrollment is down between 8-11%. Tomorrow’s meeting would be a great opportunity to press for the actual figures.
October 3, 2019 at 10:32am Hiding enrollment numbers is bad management. No trust for admin anymore, period.
October 3, 2019 at 7:53am The top brass are worried the public will see the enrollment numbers and conclude we've failed again with recruitment and retention. They are using a divide and conquer strategy where they will only provide specific numbers to specific people and departments. That way, no one will see the big picture and we have no context for interpreting our own department's numbers. Then, they can tell us anything they want about our performance.
October 2, 2019 at 6:33pm Dear Oct 1, 3:00pm, Yes someone has numbers, they just aren't sharing. A great example of transparency. Failure to share those numbers sets a new precedent, one that should concern us all. The daily news reminds us how much presidents like a good cover up. This definitely lowers my opinion of the current administration.
October 1, 2019 at 3:30pm So Lovell receives bonuses for saving money. Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that she is saving money off of employees’ backs in order to line her own pocket? Case on point: the proposed employee pay for their dependents’ health insurance. Yes! This proposal is going forward. It is imperative that everyone attend Friday’s meeting!
October 1, 2019 at 3:00pm So, are there no enrollment numbers for the fall 2019 semester? I am guessing they are bad... but does anyone have actual numbers?
September 30, 2019 at 8:02am I'm so glad U.S. News recognized Adams for social mobility of our students. Too bad ASU doesn't provide social mobility for its staff and faculty. U.S. News refers to families making less than $50,000 as an impoverished background. Probably half the employees at ASU make less than that, so unless they have an employed spouse, they qualify as impoverished by U.S. News standards. What help does ASU offer with their kids' tuition? Zero. ASU is the only public 4-year institution in Colorado that offers no help with tuition. So much for caring about social mobility within its own ranks.
September 26, 2019 at 11:32am Maybe the fire drill should include testing doors to see if they can be opened by children. The library seems like a death trap if a child was ever in there during a fire. The issue has been on AS&F's list, but no change.
September 20, 2019 at 6:44pm The president is raking in the money while she plans to cut our benefits. We will see our depressing turnover rate worsen. Students will suffer.
September 19, 2019 at 8:31pm People!!! Karla is still in charge of enrollment management. It’s simple, figures don’t lie but liars figure. #karlaforpresident
September 19, 2019 at 7:40pm Humm, when Dr. Lovell came to visit me, she indicated that enrollment numbers would not be known until census date. Well past, probably... working on "FUSSY" numbers. - Dodie Day
September 18, 2019 at 1:39pm Dear September 18, 2019 at 5:45am - No, the numbers are a mystery. Danny Ledonne made a CORA request to HR, but Tracy claimed they have no such document. This in spite of the fact that Danny has requested and received those numbers for many past semesters. So much for Open Records. What might this imply? Are the numbers that bad? Has ASU administration reached a new low in transparency?
September 18, 2019 at 10:03am The president's new contract is generous to say the least. Unless I'm reading it wrong, the president stands to make $1.67 million over the next 5 years, which works out to $334k per year. That's a massive jump from the $210k/year that the previous presidents were pulling in. It seems odd to me that her new contract hasn't received more attention, especially given the difficult fiscal decisions that the campus is collectively having to make simply to stay afloat.
September 18, 2019 at 5:45am So have the fall numbers not been released?
September 11, 2019 at 6:53pm Can anyone, perhaps someone who attended the Campus Update, provide an actual number for how many undergraduate students we had as of the census date?
September 9, 2019 at 9:05am To the August 25th posters and the conversation about privacy online and paranoia - some things gather negative and reflexive reactions of paranoia, or other psychological problems, when in point of fact, Snowden and others are persona non gratis and worse for the releasing of such knowledge about spying on individuals by the govt. AND it does not stop there! Your neighbors and others can hack you without your knowledge, read all of your stuff, and take custody of your email accounts, by hacking into it and changing the password. Trust me on this: do not ever let your recovery Emails, #'s get out of date. - Ali
September 7, 2019 at 5:30pm I may not agree with you. I do respect your opinion. I hope that venting your thoughts and/or discuss has helped release your anger. It has helped me. I did not blame the current Interim VPAA of anything. It was an administrative decision. That does not hold one person accountable. If you have never worked in Richardson Hall, it is hard to understand the dynamics. Depending on who the president is, the E-Team can just be puppets on a string. They are all at-will. We all see what is happening in the areas we are working in. Speak out. If you do not you are part of the problem. - Dodie Day
September 7, 2019 at 1:25pm Respectfully disagree with the assessment of Margo’s ethics. She earned her stripes in the Mean Girls Club. And while the past cannot be changed, it can and should inform the present.
September 7, 2019 at 12:10pm Dear Dodie, With ALL due respect, your very first paragraph is an oxymoron. To suggest we cannot completely blame one person, then suggest that people have differences about what is ethical or acceptable is simply — WOW! You are correct. We cannot completely lay the blame on Frank. After all, Dave Svaldi allowed him to get away with it and many others chose not to blow the whistle — yourself included (which brings into question your own ethics). As to what others — including yourself deem ethical — I can’t decide that for you. But HLC certainly did. The US Department of Education certainly did, as did a majority of folks on campus. (I do have to applaud your loyalty to such a schmuck as Novotny. I certainly couldn’t do it.) As to your comment about the past: no, we certainly can’t change it. But it’s imperative to learn from it so as not to repeat it. Which, from what I glean from your earlier post, is exactly what you are claiming the current Interim VPAA of doing: putting the almighty dollar ahead of the student. Like or hate Margaret, she’s a far more ethical person than your former boss will ever be.
September 7, 2019 at 10:38am @September 7, 2019 at 7:42am - In my opinion, it is impossible to blame one person, past or present. We all have our own views about what is ethical or acceptable. Watching Adams provides a platform to bring attention to current issues. We can't change the past. - Dodie Day
September 7, 2019 at 8:45am Ken Marquez makes as much as two full professors, almost as much as three new profs! Why?
September 7, 2019 at 7:45am Policy # 100-03-05 "Student Non-Attendance Verification" All Academic Undergraduate policies can be found using the link below: https://www.adams.edu/publications/undergraduate-academic-policies/ Under the bold heading "100-03 Academic Responsibilities - Undergraduate" you will find policy # 100-03-05 "Student Non-Attendance Verification - Undergraduate Students (PDF)" - Dodie Day
September 7, 2019 at 7:42am Dear Dodie, Not to defend this administration, BUT...when you were in the VPAA office so was Frank Novotny. And Dr. No was responsible for all of our problems—academic probation, financial aid fines, fraudulent salaries, vacations to Singapore, etc, etc, etc. Sooo...I’m just sayin’. The shit show has been going on for a very long time. And the VPAA under whom you worked taught everyone else how to commit fraud.
September 7, 2019 at 6:55am Senate should review the incident Dodie describes. It is a clear intrusion into the domain of faculty. Dodie, you are fearless! #dodieforpresident
September 6, 2019 at 8:50pm This one is hard to believe: On the census date, a student, who has never attended one class, has had no interaction with the faculty member teaching the course. They are dropped from the course. The following day, administration determined they were to be added back into the class. It would affect their financial aid. This is a prime example that the dollar is more important than the student. When I was in the VPAA office, the faculty member decided if a student who had never attended class could remain in the class and succeed. Administration only approved the facility recommendation. The concern was for the success of the student, not the dollars. - Dodie Day
September 3, 2019 at 9:59pm Dodie! Karla is never going to provide accurate figures. Has anyone looked into what goes on in admissions? Figures don't lie but liars figure. #karlaforpresident #lastmeangirlstanding
August 31, 2019 at 10:55pm Speaking of cuts, it appears Leslie Cramblet Alvarez will be cutting and running soon. Heavens! How many Mean Girls are even left? How did that whole "Standing Strong for President McClure" posture work out?
August 31, 2019 at 3:09pm Yes, I remember the many comments by Dr. Lovell. "Can't Cut Yourself to Success" was one of them. "550 new students, 550 new students, 550 new students," over and over again. Karla stated we didn't quite make it. When will we hear the truth? - Dodie Day
August 31, 2019 at 9:46am Brace yourselves for the Oct 4th benefit rate discussion. Take home pay is about to drop. We will be given several shitty options and "discuss" which is least painful. They will justify cutting our benefits because ASU can't stay afloat if we don't make more cuts, blah, blah. The Board gives us a raise and administration will reduce benefits to where we are worse off than last year. Is it any wonder we can't retain employees and properly serve our students? So many people have left that Student Support Services can't come close to the service it used to provide. Do I remember someone saying we can't cut our way to success? Cuts take many forms and ASU is hemorrhaging.
August 30, 2019 at 12:17pm As I was looking at salary information for 18-19 I noticed there is no dollar amount listed for the Vice President of Academic Affairs. Was there a reason for this? I also noticed that salary information was not listed for 19-20 for the position of Professor in Teacher Education. Both of these positions held by Dr. Joaquin Vila. It would be interesting to see what the salary was for him as the VPAA, total payments made to him in July and his salary as a professor of Teacher Ed. Just curious to see if he was paid some sort of settlement. - Dodie Day
August 27, 2019 at 7:07am Selective justice is alive and well at ASU.
August 26, 2019 at 7:30pm Don't worry about the cameras. The School of Business had over $150 in items taken and we have cameras throughout the building. ASUPD couldn't see anything. - Dodie Day
August 26, 2019 at 7:11pm Karla Hardesty? That is JOKE, right?
August 25, 2019 at 7:00pm @ 8/25 10:02 - Its not paranoia. Ask Russel Shawcroft, he loves to record conversations on his cell phone. #karlaforpresident
August 25, 2019 at 11:18am @August 25, 2019 at 7:43am: Although I get what you are saying you miss the point that many are just being exploited through surveillance and a lot of it has to do with who their supervisors are. Paranoia isn’t even a factor in my previous post it has everything to do with being aware. I understand socialism and all the byproducts but this has nothing to do with socialism in and of itself. Most of the people doing the bullying, watching and exploiting don’t even understand what socialism is. Some people get away with ridiculous measures of insubordination, etc. while another person can’t even get away with taking a breather for five minutes. They don’t even like it when people have friends outside of their departments. People who repeatedly do things they should get written up for don’t. It’s all about creating a subculture of subterfuge and fear. Department heads telling us not to trust our supervisors. Supervisors telling us not to trust the department heads. Look at all the buildings with cameras then look at the people who go and talk to the people in charge of said cameras and the camaraderie between them and you will see who is watching whom and it’s not just people who work under them.
August 25, 2019 at 11:01am Hey August 25, 2019 at 7:43am - You sound super confused so I'll help you out. You assure us that Adams State isn't watching people, then you assert that big tech companies are doing much more surveillance. Then you complain about government "socialism" having more control. But ASU is "socialism" (as a state school) and big tech (Amazon, Facebook, Google, Instagram, Snapchat) are private companies! So you have your thesis and your examples exactly inverted. Whether we agree with your analysis or not, public universities are government entities whereas tech companies are private organizations. Plus, nobody is forcing you to subsidize social media companies, but your tax dollars already help to pay for public schools... so you have a material interest in how they are run and whether or not they violate your Constitutional rights. One more thing: "if you are not doing anything wrong, who cares?" Do you hold this view about cameras in your bathroom and bedroom? This is the kind of reasoning that causes people to forfeit their Fourth Amendment rights to begin with. Individuals have and should maintain some expectation of privacy and, at minimum, a notice when they are being recorded so they can choose to discontinue that interaction.
August 25, 2019 at 10:02am @August 24, 2019 at 2:28pm - Yes they are. ASU PD is also being used by the higher ups as “heavies” as well to intimidate people. The newer the officer, the more of a “heavy” they are.
August 25, 2019 at 9:29am Please tell us more about the surveillance: who, how, where. I've had a few experiences that have made me suspect ASU is over the line with invading employees' privacy.
August 25, 2019 at 7:43am 8:24 @2:28 - You sound so paranoid. Do you really think they are watching/listening to you? Why would they waste their time watching you? What are you doing that makes you so worried about them watching? Just an FYI... In the private sector, you usually are watched. Walk down the street in Denver, you are being watched. I don’t think any one is watching you or cares what you are doing but, if you are not doing anything wrong, who cares? There is a digital footprint of almost everything you do both inside and outside of work and I guarantee you, you are watched far less at work than you are in your off time. Amazon, Facebook, Google, Instagram, Snapchat, those are the ones watching, not ASU. The airlines are installing cameras in the seat backs to watch you. Heck, the title of the webpage is “Watching Adams” You are being watched and quite honestly, get ready to be watched more and more. An unfortunate side effect of socialism and the government having control of more is that they will also have to watch more so get ready because when we win, there is going to be more, not less. You are correct... 1984... it is all about control.
August 25, 2019 at 6:36am Dear Dodie, I think Dr. Lovell’s visit to you was a threat in and of itself. She visits no one else on campus, other than her minions in Richardson Hall. She keeps those folks around because she can bully them into submission. Those she can’t bully into submission she bullies in other ways. Let’s see what she has in store for you. She is Dr. MClure in a different sheep’s costume.
August 24, 2019 at 6:13pm I have thought about this throughout the week. I have shared it with a few on campus. Is it a threat, warning, or just random? The following link was sent to two people. It was from Dr. Lovell, the same day she came to visit me. In the subject line: (FYI), in the body only the link: Abolish the Business Major! - Dodie Day
August 24, 2019 at 2:28pm Higher enrollment is not the main focus of ASU; it’s surveillance. You’re being watched, people. There’s people listening in on your conversations, everything. People watching camera footage in their offices, at home, etc. You’re being spied on, preyed upon through the camera eye and exploited. It’s 1984 at ASU. They’re watching the rank and file mostly. Don’t even trust the privacy of your offices to make sure your fly isn’t down. It’s sick.
August 24, 2019 at 10:05am In a previous comment, I suggested we should drop the evening class experiment or do a better job of marketing them (because I have yet to hear about a single community member enrolling for these classes). Now I'm teaching a "themed course" which I love, and I think the theme idea is great. However, polling students in my section and another, a very small percentage (10-15%) had any idea they had registered for a themed course or that themes existed. I'm sure part of the problem is because many in my class are first-year students. I also believe word will get out over the years as more students have experience with themed courses. Nevertheless, I'm curious about whether there is a plan to communicate / market themes, themed courses, night classes, Saturday classes. These are desperate times, enrollment and retention are everyone's job... but they are some people's jobs more than others. - Jeff Elison
August 23, 2019 at 8:15am It looks like the Board learned something from the Beverlee McClure fiasco and beefed up Dr. Lovell's contract in case they have to fire her, too. This contract is more specific about what ASU pays if the contract is terminated under various conditions.
August 22, 2019 at 6:10pm It would be interesting to look at how much bad debt there is. If the bad debt is in a program that has revenue sharing, the dollars are taken from the revenue sharing budget to cover the bad debt. Not many programs have revenue sharing to pull from.
August 22, 2019 at 5:46pm August 22 at 4:40PM - You are 100% correct. I have stated more than once we are doing a disservice by admitting students who need to take developmental courses. Those students would be better served by a community college. Does ASU care about the student or the dollar?
August 22, 2019 at 4:40pm August 22, 2019 at 8:41am – Your “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” perspective is well-taken but doesn't fully capture the systemic problem of which Adams State is a part. We all know ASU has some of the lowest graduation rates in Colorado and in the entire country. It has been named a “drop-out factory” in national studies of higher education. The college math requirement is among the reasons – in no small part because ASU accepts students who weren't ready to begin with and then has insufficient and/or ineffective resources to close the skills gap. And yes, K-12 school districts also share some of the blame here because many high school graduates leave with a diploma (and sometimes at the top of their class), yet are not prepared for college level work in many areas - according to ACCUPLACER testing. But this attitude of “it's not our problem, it's your problem” is a fundamental mistake for anyone working at ASU to make. If the school is going to survive as a relevant and viable rural university, it must work with the student population it has. If ASU cannot reasonably accommodate students to help them meet the requirements to attain a degree (within four years or six years), it has no business admitting those students to begin with. When so many students drop out of the university after ASU recruited and enrolled them, the failure isn't merely that of the student but also of the institution itself. By the numbers, ASU is setting up the majority of its students for failure... and deflecting the problem back onto the students it serves is a losing proposition for everyone.
August 22, 2019 at 8:41am 8-21 @5:54 - College is not for everyone. Maybe TSJC for some remedial math work if you are not at a college level. Making the classes easier only diminishes the value of your degree. I question if the college classes are too difficult or were your High School classes too easy? It is not the professor's fault that you are not at that level yet; they are just teaching to where you need to be. The tutoring is available so the only one here to blame is you and the lack of time you put into that help. If you are not ready for college, then do the extra work to get yourself ready. You are the one in charge of your education. I think the professors at ASU are one of its best attributes. I think most of them do a pretty good job and they care. I struggle to believe that the resources made available to you, for math, are not enough.
August 21, 2019 at 5:54pm The math department is terrible. We need to clean it out like they did with the education department. The teachers seem to take pride in making their gen ed level classes hard to pass and don’t understand that not everyone has a doctorates in math. If you can’t get rid of these terrible teachers, make math available for a year long course rather than just a semester. Tutoring can only do so much, and these classes have so much content that not all students can keep up with. This needs to be fixed.
August 21, 2019 at 7:31am I attended all the Campus Updates, but I was unaware that an occupied position was eliminated. What does the general fund have to do with it? Don't those jobs count? On a similar note, meaning hiding stuff, there was no mention of enrollment numbers at the all-campus meeting last week. I believe that's a first. The rumors aren't good, maybe that's why.
August 20, 2019 at 8:29pm No offense to Dodie, but I find it somewhat politically obtuse for the president to be on the defensive with an administrative assistant, especially knowing it would be reported out on this website. I wonder who exactly she is trying to convince about her “honesty”? Seems a little McClure-like.
August 20, 2019 at 1:09pm President Lovell came by my office today with a printout that was used at several of the "Campus Updates" which listed a $45,000 amount. Our conversation was professional and respectful. She stated that this was the eliminated position. Out of respect to the person holding the position details were not given at the "Campus Updates" In the President's opinion, she did not lie. For those who attended the "Campus Updates," were you aware that an occupied position was eliminated? The eliminated position was not paid from the General Fund. People interpret things differently and the truth falls somewhere in the middle. - Dodie Day
August 18, 2019 at 11:20pm Re: August 18 @ 6:59pm - For advice on how to properly and effectively teach too many students in one class, go see Ellen Novotny. She’s infamous for teaching hundreds at a time while earning $142,000 per year doing so. What, you say? You’re not being paid near that? Well, I guess your hubby isn’t demanding such (nor being held accountable). Good luck! It’s a brave new world at ASU.
August 18, 2019 at 6:59pm Can anyone shed light on what the class capacity can be for an on-campus adjunct? I taught years ago and when there was a certain number, they were required to split it into 2 sections. This is ridiculous!
August 14, 2019 at 7:05pm No, administration will not cancel the classes because they are committed to offering them. I also would like to mention that, although the ASU president stated several times that no positions were cut, she lied. I know of one position that was cut in the School of Business. - Dodie Day
August 14, 2019 at 8:01am RE: August 13, 2019 at 8:12pm My understanding is that evening classes are an attempt to attract community members, not a bad idea. We offered PSYC 101 last semester during the evening. Not a single community member enrolled and enrollment was much lower than a normal daytime class - like 12 vs. 35-45. I talked to a couple of other profs who taught evening classes and they said they only had traditional students. We should chalk this up as a failed experiment and quit doing it, or we should identify what needs to be done to make it work, like marketing evening classes effectively. - Jeff Elison
August 14, 2019 at 6:42am Dear Dodie, So will the upper admin require the class be cancelled given all of the new policy decisions that put money before students?
August 13, 2019 at 8:12pm I am still in awe that it was mandated, from the top, that we had to offer ECON 201, our only Gen Ed class, one night a week. The enrollment is 8. If offered during normal school hours, there would be a full class. - Dodie Day
August 12, 2019 at 5:05pm Just wanted to give a heads-up on the online Masters in Cultural Resource Management program. There's ALOT of nonsense going on and they are losing lots of staff and up until about 3 weeks ago they only had the program director for 5 programs teaching the CRM program. Lots of upheaval, disgruntled master's students and I myself have transferred to a different program and have chosen to eat the money I lost with their ineptitude in hopes that my wasted time, money, and income potential can be salvaged in the long run. The program is in shambles.
August 11, 2019 at 4:27pm @August 10, 2019 at 6:22am - Facilities Services has not had good leadership in years. Last year, they got a new director and were put under Housing. How discouraging for one department to go through so many changes year after year only to get a new director in Wade Smith only to hear how many trips they’ve paid for him or how many times they paid to have his wife flown in then see him drive 1/8 of a mile into work in a brand new Jeep with all the bells and whistles only to turn around and get rid of it to buy matching vehicles for wifey and he while many of FS have to work multiple jobs to survive. The man has no knowledge whatsoever to run FS and was merely Del Tondo’s pull-string doll. He worries more about collared shirts than he does about the FS personnel standing under a tree by a crosswalk just talking for an hour. Now under Kevin Daniel, there’s always hope of positive change. Will it happen that way? Maybe so... maybe not... Will FS also have to answer to people like Chris Olance, Pat Roybal, Tony Maestas?
August 10, 2019 at 8:55pm @August 9, 2019 @ 8:33pm - Why even state that here and sign your name to it and then become secretive as to why you think that? Also then act like whoever asked why you have that opinion may or may not be worthy to know why? I don’t know if Lovell is a loose canon or not, but it’s yucky to come on a forum and tarnish a person's character and not think you have an obligation to explain yourself. If there’s something wrong, state it. Otherwise, you appear as the problem.
August 10, 2019 at 8:24pm Just saw the Director of Financial Aid position posted on the employment website. Does anyone know what happened to Phil? Has he retired?
August 10, 2019 at 6:22am I am really curious about the current restructuring...Facilities will be moved out of Student Services and into a new Unit that will be called Infrastructure and Resources, under Kevin Daniel in Computing Services. He will also supervise HR. If Kevin Daniel is this great leader, more than just CTO, then change his title & make sure that no one assumes two big departments - least of all HR - are under "computing services."
August 9, 2019 at 8:33pm If you want an answer to my comment, you can find me in the School of Business at Adams State University. If I feel you are a person I want to speak with, I will. - Dodie Day
August 9, 2019 at 6:57pm Kathy Rogers was required to step down by her new boss. Why do you say Lovell is a loose canon?
August 8, 2019 at 8:38pm Aaron Abeyta is leaving ASU too?
August 8, 2019 at 9:15am ASU H.E.A.L. (Higher Education Always Lacking)
August 7, 2019 at 9:33pm If there IS a HEAL program.
August 7, 2019 at 7:50pm Dr. Lovell is a loose cannon. Morale is at a low. The BoT gave her a fantastic deal. 5 years, one year sabbatical, and come back to be tenured in HEAL. We need to take a vote of no confidence. Kathy Rogers is jumping ship and Cleave Simpson is stepping down as chair so he can just leave when his term is done. Oh yay, we are screaming. - Dodie Day
August 7, 2019 at 12:55pm That’s because ASU treats the promoting of people of color like gentrification.
August 7, 2019 at 10:08am Once again a person of color doesn’t get a promotion in Facilities Services.
August 2, 2019 at 6:24pm Re: July 26 @ 9:02 - Because Heather Heersink and Tracy Rogers are incompetent. And I’m beginning to believe our new prez is too for keeping those two around. But I’m sure she has her $250k/year contract for 5 years (that’s the word on the street).
July 26, 2019 at 9:02am Can anyone explain why ASU is incapable of getting us our yearly contracts on time? It's not like the date is a moving target.
July 2, 2019 at 7:23pm Maybe I'm being too sensitive, but when you are looking into coming to a college, does everyone get your personal info? I think it's in bad taste to spread people's business everywhere. Social media makes it too easy for a few words to get everywhere. - Lilac Girl
June 13, 2019 at 9:26am It looks like McClure and ASU got off easy for calling Ledonne a terrorist in the Valley Courier: "A federal judge awarded a Muslim-American radio host $4.1 million in monetary damages Wednesday after he successfully sued a neo-Nazi website operator who falsely accused him of terrorism." Neo-Nazi website hit with $4.1 million defamation penalty
May 29, 2019 at 7:43pm Yes, five, a revolving door. Unfortunately the two best either didn't want it or were chased away by the wicked witch of the southwest.
May 28, 2019 at 5:01pm Soooooo... Is that five VPs in as many years? I’ve lost track.
May 18, 2019 at 12:14pm Go ASU chess team
May 17, 2019 at 5:00pm How unbelievable that the BoT didn’t learn their lesson with McClure’s multi-year contract. I don’t know if it’s more infuriating or sad. SMDH...
May 17, 2019 at 10:25am This whole site is Libel ----Editor's Response: While it doesn't appear you have a very strong understanding of how libel laws actually work, you are certainly free to file a lawsuit and see what a judge thinks about your claim that a public interest website publishing news and opinion about a state university and its employees is engaging in libel. The ACLU of Colorado was well aware of this website while representing Danny Ledonne and defended his First Amendment right to publish critical information about the university's administration. But perhaps you have a command of U.S. libel law that exceeds the ACLU? There's only one way to find out...
May 7, 2019 at 10:04pm The Management Corner: Stop Silencing the Skeptics
May 6, 2019 at 8:08am Looking at the Faculty CUPA data posted here makes one problem apparent: moving goal posts. We would expect average comparison salaries to go up, but what happens when they go down? It makes it look like people's percentage of CUPA increased when in fact their salary is unchanged. Faculty in that situation probably won't get raises for even longer now. Has this affected you?
March 31, 2019 at 5:14pm Congratulations to Danny Ledonne for being accepted into a whole list of law schools. Now he can continue to protect the world from the likes of Beverlee Trump.
March 28, 2019 at 6:56am Re: March 27 @9am - One cannot defend incompetence, greed or corruption.
March 27, 2019 at 9:00am Anyone notice that no one is defending Heather Heersink, Karla Hardesty, or Tracy Rogers? The real question is what connection do they have to the trustees? Why do the trustees feel comfortable with ASU operating in such dysfunction?
March 15, 2019 at 9:41pm March 15 @ 11:29am - I would reframe your assessment of “no cuts this fiscal year” as “no additional cuts...” I believe many, if not all, of the cuts Nehring implemented WERE for this current fiscal year. But, you are correct. Expect cuts effective July 1, August 1, September 1 and October 1 – depending on your contract type and funding source. But the idiots like Karla, who couldn’t recruit her way out of a paper bag, will keep her position, salary AND $5k+ raise for non-performance. Idiots like Heather Heersink, who couldn't compute her way out of a paper bag: same, except her $16k raise. Idiots like Tracy Rogers, whose “alliance” with Novotny got us into this mess to begin. If Lovell doesn’t start figuring it out soon... heaven help us all!
March 15, 2019 at 11:29am So, the hidden message from the campus updates is that staffing cuts won't be done this FISCAL year, but will happen in the Fall. It is dependent on State funding as well as the expected enrollment drop off for new students, but anyone who believes that cuts aren't on the agenda need to listen more closely. This administration has repeatedly said, "No cuts this year", conveniently leaving out that they mean the fiscal year. Withholding information is exactly the same as lying.
March 5, 2019 at 6:09am A new position that reports to the president has been created called the Chief Gifts Officer that is in charge of bringing in large dollars from donors. I am noticing the direction Dr. Lovell is taking... creation of new programs and more aggressively going after donations. I think these methods are a much better strategy than starting crazy fights with community members. The only thing I’d sure like to see is addressing the ineffective people in admissions/enrollment. Surely she must have plans to address this?!
March 2, 2019 at 8:15pm Regarding a recent publication in Courier: Faculty Trustee Dr. Robert Benson said morale among faculty had jumped significantly for the most part after the selection of a new president. “That was huge,” he said. I have the following questions to Dr. Benson: - What measures of morale were used? - What research design was used? Pre and post? Ex post facto? - At what level significance was tested? If Dr. Benson feels he cannot provide answers, maybe he can answer this question using his personal empiricist perspective: - What was the significance of him holding a sign "Standing Strong for Dr. McClure" in 2016? That was huge. Indeed, Rob.
March 1, 2019 at 7:31am Can we please stop using the term "cautious optimism" to describe ASU? It's such a veiled way of saying "we don't know what the hell is happening or how to fix it but we're going to smile all the way to end!"
February 28, 2019 at 7:47am I think the "zero-sum" article in the Colorado Sun is the most hopeful thing I've ever read for Adams State since our enrollment started to decline in 2012. The unfairness of the funding model for Adams State and Fort Lewis is mentioned three times. The author understands our mission and our plight: "The state’s largest schools are growing. Small schools are shrinking. And because the formula is enrollment-driven, it’s resulted in more money for selective research universities, such as the CU Boulder and Colorado State University, and less for community colleges and smaller rural institutions, such as Adams State University and Fort Lewis College, which predominantly serve the populations the state wants to help." "The situation is one that lawmakers have tried to mitigate through year-to-year budget adjustments, stepping in to boost funding to smaller schools like Adams State and Fort Lewis. But Morris, the higher education official, says overruling the formula every year defeats the purpose of having one in the first place. In an ideal world, state officials want colleges to have a stable, transparent and predictable revenue stream." Trouble is, about 90 percent of the money the state gives out through the funding formula is based on student volume, according to a Lumina Foundation Strategy Labs study. That means enrollment changes at larger schools like CU Boulder, which has more than 29,000 students, play a much bigger role in how dollars are divvied up than what’s happening at a place like Adams State, which has just 2,600 students." The fact that Colorado is 47th in the country for higher ed funding is embarrassing and depressing. However, it sounds like President Lovell's and Adams State's greater presence in Denver may be paying off. - Jeff Elison
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