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April 26, 2017 at 8:05pm
To properly answer 10:16am, I recommend a poll: How would you rate your trust level with Tracy?
- I am confident taking any HR issue large or small to Tracy.
- I would consider taking a personal HR concern to Tracy.
- I am either neutral or have no experience interacting with Tracy.
- I view Tracy with wariness,
- Tracy is an Informant and the Enemy, to be avoided at all costs.

----Editor's Reply: While a poll on the level of satisfaction ASU employees have with HR might be helpful and certainly merits discussion here, it wouldn't directly address the question of alleged criminality mentioned on April 25, 10:23am.
April 26, 2017 at 10:16am
10:23am - could you please explain why Tracy Rogers is a criminal?
April 26, 2017 at 8:05am
Re: April 24 12:53 PM - What's even more disheartening is the fact that the current investigation the OEO is conducting on Facilities Services will end up the same way with nothing done. I feel for those who are left in the wake of a retaliatory despot to simply endure or be told by HR if they are unhappy to seek employment elsewhere.
April 26, 2017 at 7:38am
Wow, great site, thank you for maintaining this!

Bev is what a Hillary Clinton Presidency would have been for this country. She needs to go sooner rather than later.

ASU is in a death spiral, and needs major, total reorganization, starting with releasing many of the problem "children" we have: e.g., Novotny, Centeno, Crowther, Beez. Drain the swamp. Focus MUST be on regaining accreditation, if that is even possible now, with so many resources being deflected for "other" activities, like, say, Sanctuary Status. I guess in a couple of years the only persons on campus will be the Illegals. 

Long-time financial supporters of ASU are seriously reconsidering their donations for a University that is has lost its way and does not seem to have any interest in finding its footing.  Take-over by CU, probably the best thing, at least it will clean out some of the rat's nests, probably not all, though. 

Faculty leaving--who wouldn't if they could? These are intelligent people (for the most part), and see the hand-writing on the wall.  Anybody remember what ASU is here for, really? Surely not for those pesky students?
April 25, 2017 at 10:23am
As I have written in an earlier post, McClure, Ed Crowther, Frank Novotny, Tracy Rogers, and other criminals should be fired, indicted, and convicted. If state law enforcement will not do it then the feds should. Oh wait, neo-fascist Trump upon hearing of their criminality would give them jobs in his administration.
April 25, 2017 at 7:40am
Dear 10:30am, save us your alternative facts. The "Gilmer didn't do his job so he suddenly resigned voluntarily" story makes no sense whatsoever. It's clear from the documents that he was blackmailed into leaving. 

Real facts:
the BoT "is entering into this Release and Settlement Agreement in compromise of disputed claims for compensatory damages and injunctive relief."

"President McClure has the right to exercise any legal recourse under the law against him that includes the disclosure of information in her possession"

"In consideration of the above, Dr. Gilmer agrees to resign his position with the University, with prejudice"

"Dr. Gilmer further agrees to withdraw with prejudice the complaint he filed against President McClure"

He filed a complaint just as many, many others have or would like to do. She got someone to search for dirt on him and found some on a family member. He resigned to protect a loved one. 

It's detestable that she would put the university at risk over her ego. It's even worse that she would pay to dig into employee's past. It's even worse that she would extend this to family members. And then to basically brag about blackmail shows how warped her mind really is. Not to mention the mirrors pointed at his house. Those aren't things a wise leader would do, much less brag about.

The sooner she "is resigned" without prejudice, the better for ASU.
April 24, 2017 at 2:34pm
Coincidence or psychotic behavior? Dr. Gilmer's former residence is completely vacated and the voodoo mirrors have been taken down!
April 24, 2017 at 12:53pm
"Inheriting a mess" is one thing, making it worse and being a vindictive bully is another. Under Beverlee McClure's "leadership," student enrollment has continued to drop, employee turnover has increased dramatically, guaranteed tuition and other financial decisions have worsened ASU's credit rating, debt burden, and prompted the state audit, and her embarrassing behavior has disgraced ASU for the HLC all all of higher ed to see.

To the extent it appears that Chris Gilmer "didn't do his job," it was because Beverlee McClure obstructed his ability to implement the changes recommended by the OES external report. What happened to shutting down extended studies and creating a continuing education office, anyway?
April 24, 2017 at 10:30am
Beverlee inherited a mess and is trying to clean it up and it turns out Gilmer didn't do his job while he was here.
April 23, 2017 at 4:56pm
So maybe Bev and Ed Crowther are drinking pals and that's how he got to be her hit man in charge of knifing Gilmer.
April 22, 2017 at 8:54pm
Could someone remind the ASU president that tonight is Alamosa's prom night? Parents, family and friends don't need to have her drunk ass (like usual) on the roads in the university vehicle jeopardizing lives tonight. This community loves our kids. I hope she can be respectful of DUI laws just tonight.
April 21, 2017 at 9:25am
I can't speak for every department on campus, or even for everyone in my own department, but I can say that I don't have any problems with either of my supervisors. My experience has been that they are fair and understanding. I came to this job after having worked retail for a number of years, and even those few times when I've been frustrated with my supervisor here do not even come close to hair-pulling frustration I experienced in my previous jobs. The job I left to come to ASU literally gave me a script to follow for everything, and stepping out of line meant being written up. (And if you followed the script and didn't meet your quotas you were still written up.) Since starting at Adams State I've never felt anything close the dehumanizing experience of being treated like a piece of company equipment.

I'm not saying that ASU is without its problems, but since my experience seems to be vastly different from the others presented here I thought I would it add it to conversation.
April 21, 2017 at 8:30am
Missing VPAA Gilmer? Just remember, Crowther did everything in his power to bring him down, including manipulating senate.
April 20, 2017 at 7:21pm
As a fellow former ASUcks employee, I have to concur with 5:49pm. Don't suffer, people. Life is short. Functional workplaces that value you and your contributions do exist. Read the latest WA poll results and look sharp.
April 20, 2017 at 6:03pm
Get it? Got it? Doubt it...
April 20, 2017 at 5:49pm
As a former ASU employee, I have to say leaving that place was the best decision ever. Promotion is a joke, only those who can conform to the supervision staff in a mindless "yes man" mentality will ever get promoted, or if you are a "ol drinking buddy" of one of the supervisors, and then you are guaranteed to climb the ranks quickly. Progressive thinking is looked down upon, and standing up for the rights of a co-worker is a big no no. But playing the devils advocate and brown nosing? Promotion! Back stabbing and ridiculing a co-worker? Promotion! There are so many that work so hard for there little pay check and so many who do a whole lot of nothing for a nice fat paycheck. Something will have to change one day, or ASUcks will just bury itself one day, and no one will come the the funeral.
April 20, 2017 at 4:56pm
I think there's a lot of people in ASU qualified to lead. Not everything said is criticism but statements made about what really goes on but when it's said about a supervisor it's criticism, etc. But when a supervisor does it it's evaluating. There are plenty of employees who do their job and don't complain and whether or not their superiors are good or not they do there best to make them happy by doing what's asked of them. Some people just don't want the responsibility and just go to do a good job and get what they earn at the end of every month. As far as supervisors there are some good ones out there too but when you speak out on the negativity you get labeled as the "worst kind of workers at a workplace". You don't have to go to the OEO or the inner circle to get labeled, just have the right person with the right amount of sensitivity and anal retentiveness read something they don't like in the comments section.
April 20, 2017 at 4:40pm
What's just as bad or worse is a myopic outlook on what was said about supervisors. Nobody said anything about WANTING a supervisor position and you know nothing of all the negativity they spread, fear they try to instill and the double standards they create. Maybe there's a reason people don't want to be a supervisor. Learn the back story before you try and say somebody else is spewing forth vitriol. It's the ones out in the field who hold things together and have to have a mind of their own to do what they know needs to be done.
April 20, 2017 at 3:42pm
When you realize the administration is leading your organization off a cliff – all while giving themselves raises, exotic vacations, and throwing themselves fancy parties with public money and student tuition... it's hard to imagine the solution is “sit down and shut up.”

It's not that most ASU employees want a supervisor job. They just want a functional and supportive workplace that isn't governed by incompetence, fear, retaliation, and bullying.
April 20, 2017 at 8:05am
The worst employees in any organization are those who worry, snipe, and snark about their supervisors. What their supervisors do, what their supervisors get, when their supervisors work or take vacation.

You would do well to do YOUR job, worry about YOUR job, take care of YOUR life, not just criticize others.

You want a supervisors job? Earn it, get it, do it,
April 19, 2017 at 10:02pm
Facilities supervisors are a joke. The most useless ones are the ones promoted and all of a sudden become the standard for cleanliness. Where was that type of work ethic when they actually had to work? Blackout dates during the Summer but yet supervisors can have off, being told when to take comp time and not on Mondays or Fridays but supervisors can miss whenever. But yet it all gets denied and nothing is ever done about it. How can so many people who have come forward be wrong?
April 19, 2017 at 9:54pm
Re: April 17 9:00 AM, I totally agree but isn't that against the labor laws? Isn't it wrong for a person to have an investigation go negatively against them if they are summoned to speak? I've heard that people who have spoken to Ana and told the truth had negative reports thrown into their personnel files.
April 18, 2017 at 9:34pm
Dr. Gilmer is, I'm pretty sure, on to bigger and better things. What a HUGE loss to Adams State. What an embarrassment that he had to endure the atrocities he did while employed at ASU. We should all be ashamed.
April 18, 2017 at 9:27pm
This is a really great poll right now regarding the timeline of ASU's bail out. For those that voted that ASU will recover on its own, I'm genuinely interested: how? HLC visit looming, the state watching (and not helping), leadership in shambles, faculty and staff leaving, enrollment and retention down, and budget deficit. I'm having a tough time seeing the silver lining here.
April 18, 2017 at 4:05pm
Sad day watching Dr. Gilmer move. Maybe now that worthless excuse of a president will remove her mirrors and stop embarrassing us. After her much-needed vacation in Hawaii. After all, it's exhausting causing all of the problems she causes. The one nice thing about her vacation is that the rest of us get some relief from her lunacy.
April 17, 2017 at 2:36pm
Will there be a President's Cabinet meeting on Tuesday, April 18? Will our savior and fearless Prez graciously show her face?

Oh wait, I have been notified in my newsfeed 21 hours ago "Hyatt Residence Club on Ka'anapali". No golf boots this time as she is "flying solo". What's wrong, Bev? No friends?

Glad to see your priorities are with ASU. But you have minions to take care of this! Májalo
April 17, 2017 at 9:00am
I have a better view of the OEO due to my current position and can verify that the OEO is just another spin room for ASU and looks to be good friends with the HR director. What they do to employees is an unethical and immoral way to silence dissenters. She sits you down, gets your claim so they can defend against it, and then add a negative spin to what you say to label you as the problem. You will literally walk out wondering if the moon is just the sun at night. The most frustrating thing is their display of psychological projection. They display piss poor behavior and then claim the staff member have those attributes, which only adds to them overwhelming the employee with unfounded claims. Then they claim nobody wants to deal with it because the employee is defending themself. It's a very pervasive culture that starts with the HR director and is taught to supervisors. Their strategy seems to overwhelm and then claim there's too much to sort through because they don't want to deal with it. So they're shunning their responsibilities and use their bias in their decisions.
April 16, 2017 at 5:42pm
The OEO. What a joke! Ana should be fired for her lack of professionalism, lack of confidentiality, lack of organizational and investigation skills and her persistent stupidity!

But I am sure she's protected due to the fact her spouse is a county judge. And on that note, the HR director is just as bad! Both are plain worthless, unfair and bullies. But no one sees this, so we continue with creating great stories. All is I can hope for is that CU will take us over and all our tremendous debt and run our campus with integrity and hold ALL EMPLOYEES accountable!
April 14, 2017 at 10:15pm
9:37pm - Which "conflict of interest" is that?
April 14, 2017 at 9:37pm
Re: April 13 4:50 PM - What about those who can't afford a lawyer and can't go to HR not only due to their looking out for the interests of the "inner circle" but also due to a "conflict of interest" everybody knows about but won't comment on?
April 14, 2017 at 7:24am
‪9:35‬ is right. Some of the things the OEO director has said about employees should have gotten her fired long ago. She can't be professional about anyone associated with this site: Ledonne, Elison, and Waddell come to mind. Administrators above her know it, but they are one big happy inner circle and they don't want her to be professional about people they perceive to be adversaries
April 13, 2017 at 9:35pm
Yes, OEO is certainly part of the inner circle. Yes, the deck is stacked against you. No, the behavior from that office is not professional or ethical. Some of the communications out of that office warrant termination.
April 13, 2017 at 7:44pm
Part of the reason OEO has been ineffective or counterproductive is because in the past certain people had keys to everything including the OEO filing cabinets. That was one reason certain repeat offenders knew what was said about them by the next day in a "confidential meeting" that happened hours before.
April 13, 2017 at 6:51pm
That the OEO is part of the "inner circle" or not wasn't my target point. I failed to mention there seems to be a secret society atmosphere at ASU that has permeated every department and the select few receive many perks at the expense of others. Facilities Services gets overlooked a lot since it seems to be a "fringe department" and that's where a lot of the skulduggery occurs. So much of it is filtered thru middle management so that it doesn't look to be coming from their superiors and they are so brainwashed into believing that's the way to supervise that they believe they are doing their job when in reality they are just a human shield for their superiors.
April 13, 2017 at 4:50pm
Adams State's Office of Equal Opportunity is a source of many problems for many people. It is presented as a neutral space to resolve an issue but its administrative oversight and current cronyism undermine any equitable outcome. I used to think the OEO was simply a closet employees could ineffectually shout into, but now I see that it is actually a coercive tool that the administration uses to ferret out dissent and tag employees for removal.

When filing a compliant with the OEO, the deck is stacked against employees and most complaints are swept under the rug, buried, or found to be “meritless” (even when outside review would conclude otherwise). I can't tell you how many people have told me that they felt totally disappointed, even retaliated against, because they went to the OEO. Employee grievances often aren't treated confidentially and filing a complaint will put a target on their backs for future bullying and backlash from administrators. This is among the reasons so many ASU employees have left.

Next time someone has a dispute at ASU, get a lawyer like Ledonne or Elison did. Ledonne was able to have the campus ban lifted and received a $100,000 settlement while Elison was able to secure his rightfully-earned full professor promotion.  Legal action seems to be the only language ASU administrators understand. And I'm sure the Colorado Attorney General's office is tired of defending ASU's ridiculous actions by now.
April 13, 2017 at 8:01am
Some think the real problem with the previously mentioned investigations is that the OEO is part of the "inner circle" and often uses bully tactics themselves. It appears there are many individual relationships preventing objectivity from that position.
April 12, 2017 at 9:55pm
One of the many problems in the aforementioned departments is bullying and fear-mongering. McClure calls for stronger laws against Watching Adams' alleged "cyber bullying" but yet she completely ignores, defers or hands over all complaints given to her to the OEO. All that does is put up a front that she took action to deal with those issues but yet they'll conveniently be swept under the rug and later on she'll enjoy a nice strong drink and a few holes of golf with the perpetrators.
April 12, 2017 at 9:09pm
Did the investigations of Extended Studies or Computing Services yield any fruitful results? What will the investigation of Facilities Services bring? What are so many current and former employees afraid to come forward? Why do some former employees fear it will affect their current job?
April 12, 2017 at 8:51pm
What makes certain employees so bullet proof? Why is Facilities Services in such a shambles? Why is Computing Services in the same condition? Why are there so many complaints about certain people in those departments and yet they are untouchable?
April 12, 2017 at 8:04am
Re: April 11 and Carol Guerro-Murphy: Didn't the board just vote rejecting ASU become a sanctuary campus? And now we have faculty/staff using university resources (email) to defy the board? Uhhhh... SMH
April 11, 2017 at 4:55pm
The AAUP just released their Annual Report on the Economic Status of the Profession and the main trends all seem to apply very strongly to Adams State. They are: Part-time employment continues to grow, Administrative pay is high and on the rise, Funding of public education remains below prerecession levels.
Visualizing Change: The Annual Report on the Economic Status of the Profession, 2016-17
April 11, 2017 at 3:25pm
Just read the email from Carol Guerrero-Murphy about the all campus forum on how to hide, obstruct justice, and generally break numerous laws to protect ILLEGAL immigrants for deportation.

What the Hell is this school doing? It is totally insane to detract from the most important task set in front of everyone on this campus and that is get off probation, increase tuition, increase retention and do something new for this institution and that is make some freaking money, but NO we've got to get sidetracked by this kind of bullshit. 

Come on people, we live in the San Luis Valley where ILLEGAL immigrants have been deported for decades and it's never had an effect on Adams State. Yes, there are a couple of ILLEGAL immigrants going to school here and it would be a tragedy to those people, but in the big picture it will have little to no economic effect on this institution. Whereas, losing our accreditation, the retention rate declining and lower tuition will have a huge impact on our economy.

I've been told from a person that attended a all campus meeting from another small college where they talked about how to survive as a small university in Colorado. In the presentation they referred to Adams State numerous times as being in a financial death spiral, with no way out. Now there's a good way to be remembered!
April 10, 2017 at 7:56pm
What I want to know is how can an employee have so many claims against them, be a passive aggressive bully and yet complain when a supervisor asks him to be accountable? How can this person complain to the point they no longer answers to their supervisor, constantly miss work for another job, etc and still be employed at Adams?
April 10, 2017 at 4:34pm
Some faculty member in a department other than HAPPS could really do pre-law students a service by starting a Mock Trial Club. Do not count on Crowther and his Ph.D JD boy . They started one years ago and watched it die. Backen does not give a shit about students. Same with Crowther. The faculty advisor could be from any department- English, sciences, business, math, Theater, whatever. Adams have more than enough serious pre-law students to join if faculty really took it seriously. You do not have to be a political science or social science major to be pre-law. A student can major in anything and get in law school with high GPA and good score on the LSAT. So I hope some concerned faculty member will look into this and start up a serious Mock Trial Club. As an extra added bonus feature, the Mock Trial Club can request and get some of those funds MUN grabs every year. The team would go to regional competition and if good enough the finals which are frequently held in nice places like Florida. It will look great on a student's application, and a faculty member's vita. And will get Adams some positive coverage.
April 10, 2017 at 1:59pm
The question is not can a week in another country be beneficial to students. The question is the fairness of a handful of students, and one selfish professor, getting the large portion of AS&F funds at the same time many, many, more students are being denied adequate funding for their projects. Again, someone needs to do a study of how much money does MUN receive each year and what percentage of total funds available do they receive? I think many readers will be very concerned.
April 8, 2017 at 4:41pm
Agreed!  And well said.
April 8, 2017 at 3:41pm
Well, it seems like the nastiness continues. Highly distasteful. I'm with April 7 9:53pm. Let's cut it out and hone our attention on the true culprits. They love that we're distractedly tearing at each other below decks while they continue to line their pockets in first class.

I've witnessed firsthand the nasty vehemence against the Model UN organization, and it speaks volumes about the poverty mentality of our campus. There is no richer or more educationally rewarding experience for students than to travel and experience other cultures. Too few ASU students get to enjoy such culturally immersive opportunities, but those who do bring back a broader awareness of the world that they can share with others. It is the rare ASU student who can afford a full semester abroad, but Model U.N. at least provides participating students with some limited, critical exposure to global perspectives. This should be celebrated, not torn down. 

But that is the valley way.
April 8, 2017 at 10:20am
April 7, 2017 at 9:53pm---You use a lot of space and many words to actually say very little. But toward the end of your drivel you give yourself away. You can promise that any Model UN student would be happy to tell us about the hard work they put in. I guess that means you are one of those students, or the instructor. Thus, your defense of Centeno and not so subtle attack on Nealy are meaningless. How can you promise anything unless you are one of the parties? You also go on about those of us who are critical are really unaware of the truth and need to educate ourselves before we make comments here. You do not know who the critics are. They could be HAPPS students or even faculty. And who are you? Why should we believe that you KNOW what the truth is? Why should we believe that you are one of the few with real insider information? Identify yourself, or stop criticizing others who have different viewpoints. You want us the accept that anyone criticizing Centeno, defending Nealy, are really ignorant of the truth. Well, until you identify yourself I suggest you are a biased party, probably one of Centeno's sycophants.
April 7, 2017 at 9:53pm
I first heard about “Watching Adams” through the rumor mill a few months ago. That was roughly around the same time Dr. Crowther’s drinking habits were first called into question (at least from what I could tell) and the discussion included questioning the Goddard’s positions on campus. I had already come to my own conclusions about the LeDonne mess, so I did not pay the site much attention. I assumed that this was just a way for dissatisfied students, faculty, and staff to vent and let off some steam about Adams State. However, in the last couple of weeks I have heard increasingly worse comments about both Dr. Elison and Dr. Centeno around campus. One student mentioned the new obsession with Dr. Centeno, and I became curious what new nonsense was being spread.

In the last couple of evenings, I have spent some time reading the comments going back for months. I even delve into the archives to try to get an understanding of when some of these comments all started. Even then, I cannot figure out your obsessions with certain professors. Frustration and dissatisfaction with administration makes sense. Even blaming Dr. Crowther makes sense, at least to a point. However, there is no logical reason for venting faculty to continue focusing on their fellow professors. For students there are generally better ways to vent, especially if you are attempting to discourage other students from taking classes with these professors. 

The problem with Adams State does not fall on the professors. Especially on the professors in HAPPS or Psychology. The college as a whole does not care about its faculty or students. Our faculty are over-worked and under-paid. Our students lack any form of support and are currently under threat of losing the chance of a degree from an accredited university. None of which is the fault of the faculty being attacked on this site. Wanting to watch the happenings of Richardson and call administration out on their actions is far more acceptable and understanding.

An earlier poster (April 5, 2017 at 6:00pm) ended their comment with “If you care about student retention, you should care about faculty retention.” Last year we lost over half of the English department, this year we are losing two incredible professors in the Psychology department. Along with the many departments that lost one professor. We need to be focusing on why so many professors are leaving Adams. Instead, it seems as though you are attempting to push professors away. Or do you not realize the kind of affect losing half of the psychology department or some of these key professors will have? 

A part of me wants to come to the defense of the professors coming under fire in these comments. An even bigger part of me wants to defend the HAPPS department as a whole for not renewing Dr. Nealy’s contract, especially since she seems to be a renewed focus. However, I am not entirely certain how much that will accomplish. It is obvious the people discussing such issues have never talked to someone in the department, student or faculty, to find out what happened. You all are reacting to events that you have no accurate or detailed information on. 

I know I will never be able to convince some of you that some of these faculty members do not deserve the hatred being spread on this site. I recognize your first-amendment right to voice your frustrations. I just encourage you to educate yourselves on a situation before you take to posting online. Talk to the professors you have problems with, or at least their students. I promise any of the Model UN students will be happy to tell you about their conferences and the amount of work they put into it. Even more students will tell you that if their favorite professor left, they are likely to transfer to a different college as well.
April 7, 2017 at 5:15pm
Good detective work. I hope you take down all of this person's posts. I post frequently but have never tried to deceive readers into thinking I am multiple posters. Anyone doing this, regardless of which side of the issues they are on, should be banished!
April 7, 2017 at 1:50-2:33am
[1] True dat. Hey, i'm a white dude who was a student of Dr. Nealy's. I didn't know she had left the university until it was too late. I really hate that cuz I had planned to sign up for her radical feminism course. Bring her back President McClure.

[2] This African American male student support Dr. Nealy. I admired how she taught the HGP course. Very different from how my white profs taught the course. I learned that civilization didn't start in Europe, but in the "Garden of Paradise". Doesn't get any better than that because my white history professors hated her approach to such truth about the real genesis of civilization.

[3] Dr. Neeley had my full support. Enjoyed the black history event she organized. Nothing of such high quality has been organized here since she left. -White male professor

[4] This feminist supported Dr. Nealy. I was hired with her and the others in that group like Dr. Kirk. But I'll be leaving ASU as well. -A Hispanic female professor.

[5] WTF....hell yeah, I like Dr. Nealy and supported her. -Former student of Dr. Nealy

[6] In complete support of Dr. Neely. -Staff in McDaniels.

[7] I supported Dr. Nealy and I'm a staff member in McDaniel Hall. -Single white female

[8] I agree with previous comment. I too supported Nealy. I'm an administrator in Richardson.

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April 6, 2017 at 11:58am
The post submitted on April 6 at 3:49 AM, in regard to Dr. Centeno and Lisa Nealy was certainly not written by “a retiring business professor,”or any other professor for that matter. My guess is that it was written by one of the handful of students who didn’t drop her courses. The reality is that she was simply an awful teacher who spoke in a ridiculous affected accent. Dr. Nealy had no support whatsoever by anyone in the university. Her PIZZA-PERHAPS presentation was a disaster, mostly incomprehensible gibberish. She wouldn’t end her presentation on time, and took up most of the time from another presenter. The people who attended will probably never attend another one. Her lecture was abysmal, and the idea that anyone would be interested in stealing her research is ludicrous. After all, this is a professor that taught her students that B.CE. stands for “Before Civilization Existed.”
April 6, 2017 at 3:49am‬
Dr. Centeno is getting what she deserves on this list serve. Look how her backstabbing has ultimately backfired. An individual cannot be sued for practicing their First Amendment Rights. Noone should feel sorry for a so-call Latina,hack, single female because I surely do not. Also, the expressions on this list serve regarding Dr. Centeno are stated facts Mr. Editor. Uuumm...seem perhaps you Mr. Editor has changed your tune about free speech. I guess you are now going to suck up to ASU after how they mistreated you???? It's a fact that Dr. Centeno was not only jealous and intimidated by Dr. Nealy, but she even tried to steal Dr. Nealy's presentation points presented at a PIZZA-PERHAPS event. And I quote, "I use some of the same variables that Dr. Nealy is using". This is what Dr. Centeno stated when she presented her presentation after Nealy presented her's. Some of the students laughed siliently at Dr. Centeno because she wasn't convincing. Clearly, Dr. Centeno was out of her league trying to compete with Dr. Nealy. Dr. Nealy's research presentation was highly specialized with sophisticated mathematical models that went over the heads of every faculty member who were in attendance that day. I talked with Dr. Nealy afterwards and found her to be a lovely person with a deep commitment to her student's success. She is a very passionate and fascinating intellectual with serious minded thinker as well as doer. Dr. Nealy is a highly trained research methodologist and statistician. I've read some of her scholarly work on the criminal justice system and religion and politics. Very impressive. I learned months later that she was not retained at the very hands of Centeno. 
- A retiring business professor!

----Editor's Reply: We are committed to providing an engaging and high quality forum for open discussion about Adams State University. Unfortunately, the grammatical errors and incoherent composition of posts like this aren't likely to be in the service of these objectives. You said that you're a retiring business professor? From ASU?

Nonetheless, we are publishing this post, like every other before it, so readers can draw their own conclusions.
April 5, 2017 at 6:00pm
April 5, 2017 at 8:57am – do you really think ASU is “purging itself for better more professional professors?” That seems doubtful. Dr. Kelso was a very accomplished and beloved faculty chair, Dr. Pipitone was very involved with taking his students to conferences and conducting research, and Dr. Kirk had just arrived with an impressive list of publications in his field.

Why are so many faculty leaving ASU in their prime – some after being here only a year or two? At the same time, those who have led ASU down a path of academic and financial ruin seem to stick around for many decades, soaking up large salaries and maintaining the status quo. ASU invests resources into training and integrating faculty. When faculty leave, they take that experience with them and leave behind the relationships that form the basis for retaining students. There is a strong connection between faculty leaving and declining enrollment. If you care about student retention, you should care about faculty retention.
April 5, 2017 at 1:41pm
Thank you so very much for putting an end to the of the endless bitching about the one professor. In my humble opinion, it went on way to long. How in the world does bitching about one professor help the institution with the larger picture?

That out of the way, the uber liberals are bringing this "Sanctuary Campus" status back up for consideration. WTH are these people really that stupid. I understand that this is one of those liberal feel good topics but does this campus really have the luxury to spend energies on such a moot point? Like this institution can afford the possibility of losing federal funding, anyone that would promote or do anything that had the possibility to lose out on possible federal money is a self-centered dumb ass.

Why I call this idea a moot point is we don't need some liberal generated label to treat each other with respect, keep the physical safety of each person on campus an absolute priority, and just treat every individual with grace. Why must we have a political driven agenda label to do what I've just listed?
April 5, 2017 at 10:07am
Has anyone been following the proposition that we become a "Sanctuary School"? I think it's a great idea in theory, however I have doubts about ASU's ability to properly execute it. For one thing, I highly doubt the school will take any stance or action that has even the remotest possibility of jeopardizing our funding. 

I fully expect that resolution to become a sanctuary school will pass, and it will end up on all of our marketing, but we won't see any significant change in our policies or any additional protections for our students.

Does anyone believe that this is going to turn into anything more than a marketing gimmick?
April 5, 2017 at 9:03am
The Great Exodus continues. And the Board of Trustees remain asleep at the wheel. How's Bev working out for ya?
April 5, 2017 at 8:57am
It looks like ASU is purging itself for better more professional professors.
April 5, 2017 at 7:59am
Dr. Kelso left at the end of last summer and her position has not been filled.
Dr. Kirk announced he is leaving last week.
Dr. Pipitone announced he is leaving last week.
Dr. Elison will be on sabbatical.
The Psych Dept hired one new person for fall, so far.
April 4, 2017 at 7:00pm
What happened to Elison and Pipitone? I do not see either one in the fall schedule. There are only three faculty left?
April 4, 2017 at 5:35pm
Too bad the owner of this site, himself a victim of censorship, is now practicing it himself.

---- Editor's Reply: We have not omitted even a single comment from publication, including the dozens of yours in the past few weeks which are entirely fixated on the same topic. If you have some new information to bring to light, we will publish it. Your recent posts offers our readership no claim which has not already been discussed ad nauseam.
April 4, 2017 at 2:12am
Adams State isn't the only Colorado school that is lowering academic standards for financial gain. Check out this story:

Fired Because He Wouldn't Dumb Down a Course?
“A new report from the American Association of University Professors alleges that Colorado’s Community College of Aurora terminated an adjunct because he refused to lower his expectations for his introductory philosophy class.”

This looks to me like more abuse of adjuncts and a focus on marginalizing any faculty member who dares to stand up to administrative dictates.
April 3, 2017 at 10:37pm
Who would say that Crowther is too white? Yo, that's laughable. Talking about Centeno's child on this forum is a lawsuit waiting to happen. I'm a single mom and if somebody talked about my child, you might see a Grizzly come out of the Den. Someone took it too far. Sick!

- Meagan Smith
April 3, 2017 at 8:42pm

----Editor's Reply: This is likely in reference to our decision to close the "Centeno complaint center" for the time being, but we're not sure that is what this comment is in reference to.
April 3, 2017 at 8:21pm
As long as Centeno is a topic on this board let me add some insider information. I come from a department in the same building. Centeno claims to be a feminist but in fact is the worst friend any woman could have. Twice in three years she has single-handedly made great efforts to deny young female academics employment in her department. Three years ago the department brought in three candidates for a political science position. All three had superb qualification. Two were males and one was a white woman. After years of complaining and making accusations about how lonely was being the only woman in the department,one would think Centeno would argue with search committee members on behalf of the clearly qualified woman. In the past Centeno constantly complained to anyone who would listen how she was the only woman in a department of seven.

What happened? Not only did she not urge for offering the woman the position but she urged against her and voted against her. She had the chance to take a step to remedy past gender discrimination and what did she do? More recently, the department did hire Lisa Nealy, a published professor. Her vita looked remarkably more impressive than Centeno's. Not only was she a Ph.D with experience teaching political science, but she was also a proud African American woman. Again faced with a fork in the road- rehire Nealy for year two towards Tenure, or fire her? What did Miss Progressive Liberal Neo-Marxist Radical Latina Feminist Centeno do? She urged to have Nealy fired, voted against Nealy, and backstabbed her further by talking trash about her. Why? Could it be that Centeno only knows how to play the victim? She needs to be the only woman in the department. That gives her something to be angry about and fight. Add to this, she is very insecure, psychologically damaged, and would fear any other woman in the department would be more likeable, popular with students, popular wit colleagues.

With a really sharp personable female to compete against, she would not no know what to do. Research and publish? Out of the question due to lack of intellectual curiosity. Improve her teaching techniques? How? She never attends conferences, does not have friends who have published, how could she ever be up to date? Ask her sometime, what is a dummy variable? No. All she has is Model UN. Of course, she does not only betray women trying to have access to and success in her department. She will betray and backstab new widows. Some of you may understand that.

I do not take joy in exposing Centeno as a fraud. But I believe if someone Is a fraud, be their name be Novotny, Margaret, Bev, just about anyone in extended studies, or the business department, they should be exposed.

----Editor's Reply: At this point, this issue has received a great deal of exposure, largely from this same IP address for weeks on end.  Now it's time to either send us hard evidence to support these claims or this topic will be closed for the foreseeable future given its dominance in the overall conversation.
April 3, 2017 at 3:11pm
Crowther has been Centeno's primary enabler over the years. I'm not sure about the new administration, but under the previous administration he was essentially told he was sitting on two strikes. One more harassment allegation and he would be toast. Hence, his pathetic sucking up to the single mom. He does not really trust her, but he has to put out the image he does and is willing to give her whatever she wants. That is one hell of a dysfunctional department.

As for his involvement with her, I highly doubt it. Crowther is too white. She claims to be a victim of white western oppression. In the past she would only have sex with women and men of color. More recently I get the distinct impression she is completely asexual.

----Editor's Reply: As members of this forum have discussed this topic extensively for weeks on end and are now at the point of actively speculating on someone's private sex life and the involvement of their underage children, we consider this topic closed if or until new information of a relevant nature to the public interest comes to our attention.
April 3, 2017 at 5:38am
I support an audit of Centeno because she is a complete fraud. Tired of hearing about Model UN this and Model UN that which is a non-scholarly endeavor to say the least. No other female faculty here uses their parenthood status to advance their careers, so why does Centeno get away with it? Crowtherism is the reason why she get away with it. Is he possibly the father of Centeno's child? And Centeno is not a Latina. Just simply observe her skin tone....purely white pigmentation. Soooo, I will now proclaim my identity as a Native American although i am white. Go figure.
April 2, 2017 at 1:29pm
I think an audit needs to be done to investigate for just how many years has Centeno and Model UN been given how much taxpayer money to take how few students on vacation junkets. I am sure she could provide all sorts of good arguments how students gain from this experience. The question is, do they? Do they actually spend any significant time at the conference? Does she book moderately priced accommodations? Do they eat at basic restaurants? It is a complete and total scam. She has been scamming taxpayers ever since she arrived here. She NEVER does research, NEVER attends any real academic conferences, NEVER presents scholarly papers, NEVER publishes, is NOT current in her field, gets mediocre students evaluations, performs no meaningful community service, and is not collegial. The sham scam Model UN is her claim to fame, and hundreds of thousands of dollars over a long period of time. And she will continue to get away with because as a single female Latina mother no one in administration has the guts to take her on.
April 2, 2017 at 1:15pm
She puts her child on limits every time she complains how hard it is to be a single mother. She uses her daughter as a crutch to advance herself. Just one more example of Centeno hypocrisy.
April 2, 2017 at 12:16am
Isn't there a No Child Policy at Adams? I seem to recall that children are not supposed to be on campus for long periods of time so this is a way Centeno is violating the rules and written policy. However, I guess we excuse her because she is supposedly a "Latina" and we are supposed to excuse her on those grounds.

I think with all the issues that people have written about, Centeno should be looked at. Is her club traveling again anytime soon? If so, she should be questioned as to the value of these trips. I suspect it is true that these trips are her way of getting a vacation, but again, we should look the other way because of her "status". Her teaching is trash and her scholarly activities are non existent. She needs to be held to the same standards as the rest of us and stop receiving free passes for being a single mother, hispanic, and whatever else she claims to be. It is time to review Centeno and make her earn her keep like the rest of us.
April 1, 2017 at 10:17pm
With those many turnovers per year, if not per semester, how can the college survive? It simply can't. The Psychology Department is down to only 3 professors. ASU is flaming out and sadly McClure hasn't expressed any real concern over this institution that will become extinct.
March 31, 2017 at 12:40pm
Agreed! Leave the children ALONE!
March 31, 2017 at 8:52am
Children are not off limit because remember, Centeno played the "single mom card" in order to get tenure. She brought her daughter-son into the discourse as a tool to advance her tenure and promotion bid. And it obviously worked.
March 31, 2017 at 7:40am
The ASU business model:
- offer a pretty good product
- underpay, overwork, and fail to appreciate your sales people which drives them away
- creating a shortage of sales people to service your customers
- rather than fixing the three (and more) problems that drive away the sales people, just hire more
- making your remaining sales people spend lots of time hiring new sales people, further reducing their time and ability to provide service to your customers
- which is often wasted effort because you don't offer candidates enough money to attract them
- now you have a whole new crew of sales people every year who don't know your customers, your customers don't know them, and they are too busy learning the ropes to help with advising or engaging students in the activities that lead to retention and participation in SSD and other conferences and visible activities
- in other words, the quality of your product just dropped... again!
- invest in infrastructure of the physical variety rather than the intellectual kind
- finally blame your sales people for not being dedicated and place the responsibility for recruitment and retention on their shoulders

Works like a charm, a charm that is losing us students and millions of dollars every year. Three cheers for leadership!

It's that time of year again when we depressingly look forward to compiling a list of all the valuable colleagues we are losing. In addition to Matt Steffenson, last night I was told Nate Pipitone and Robert Kirk are leaving. All three will be teaching lighter loads, doing no advising or less advising, and earning more money. Beverlee, Margaret, and others will indirectly blame them for their lack of dedication because it's always easier to blame others and deny your problems. That's revolting. I've seen Matt and Nate in action and heard great things about Robert. These are big losses for our customers. We have a lot of sad students walking around because of these losses.

Who will announce they are leaving next?
March 30, 2017 at 8:56pm
To all the haters leveraging horrible insults: Basic rule of haters anonymous should be that children are off limits!
March 30, 2017 at 2:55am
The "single Latina" has been given everything, favored over other women and men, and still she is a sour faced bitter person.
March 29, 2017 at 8:34am
Centeno's child has a bigger ASU office than any prof.
March 29, 2017 at 1:09am
As long as Adams is imploding and will soon be history, I nominate Crowther for VPAA. He will certainly help Bev destroy this place from within.
March 28, 2017 at 10:56pm
Thoughts on Aaron Abeyta as Interim VPAA?
March 28, 2017 at 6:20pm
Any student wanting to be selected by the professor to go on the Model UN Annual Vacation Abroad need only volunteer to baby sit for free.
March 28, 2017 at 11:11am
Centeno is protected due to being a single female parent of a daughter who now proclaims is a male. Not only that, Crowther won't make waves due to that aspect and her teen is being homeschooled on the 3rd floor of McDaniel.
March 25, 2017 at 8:20am
No, Centeno would not get tenure at another college or university, especially if it's a major research university. But even in this example, Centeno would be evaluated in research, teaching, y service. However, Adams is a mediocre teaching college void of rigour in research scholarship focused. But given Centeno's low class enrollment numbers and dismal student evaluations, clearly she shouldn't have been awarded tenure to Associate nor Full Professor. And yes, Crowther is the culprit in her promotion. He promotes faculty in that HAPPS department who are seriously deficient in all three categories of teaching, research, and service. And yes, Centeno as well as others in that department should have a post tenure review so the "swamp can be finally drained"! But in order for that to occur, the T&P Committee must also be heavily scrutinized as well because they are the ones who vote on these tenure y promotion of faculty. So, perhaps the swamp need to be drained there also and replace the committee with new members of a sound mind and of integrity, honesty, civility, and decency.
March 24, 2017 at 8:18am
Perhaps Dr. (loosely) Centeno needs to be subjected to post tenure review by an outside academic group? Would someone with her record have been granted tenure and promotion at another institution? And what about subjecting the chair of that department to close scrutiny. Why does he approve clearly deficient faculty for promotion? That is where the problem begins.

There is at least one other faculty members in Crowther's HAPPS department who has a checkered past regarding tenure and promotion procedures.
March 23, 2017 at 9:59pm
Centeno is just one example of many who get to play by different rules. So many people have advanced at this school for no reason at all. I have never heard of anyone being a full professor and tenured without having any publications or engaged in scholarly activities. Why and how did she get to where she is? I can't imagine when I go up for full, the P&T committee isn't going to take a hard look at my scholarly activities and teaching evaluations and service to determine if I have done enough.

But, Centeno gets off free and gets whatever she wants. It would be nice if I could also claim to be a feminist, scholar, and some sort of minority to get tenure and promoted. Why hasn't she published anything? Why doesn't she do research? One could question how she even is a PhD in the first place. She has no credibility in anything. I think she should go under tenure review. She is lucky to have what she has here because she could never be a professor elsewhere.
March 23, 2017 at 1:48pm
If Dr. Centeno's full professor status is unwarranted, is this the lone example of undue promotion? Or are there others – within HAPPS or university wide? If so, that is a structural problem worth addressing. And how to address it? That might be worth discussing. But a few people repeatedly complaining incessantly about Dr. Centeno here will not solve anything.
March 23, 2017 at 9:00am
It's not "petty" to raise awareness of an academic institution who illegally promoted a professor based on purely subjective measures instead of productivity in research/publications, teaching, and service. Centeno obviously lacks in each of these 3 categories and yet she was promoted to "full" professor. Such promotion is a violation of the faculty handbook policy(none of these knuckle headed administrators gives a damn about policy here and neither did the tenure committee who voted to award Centeno full pro). Gosh, this is simply not going away because you yourself probably love no standards when it comes to tenure. But it is a larger issue at hand here surrounding rules, policy, playing the "single mother" card because any faculty member like myself are currently on track line can holler foul ball when we go up for tenure and subsequently denied as a result of not being "single" and without child out-of-wedlock. So, yes it's not petty fixation on Centeno, it's simply rationalist thinking that propels me and others to point out these law breakers who didn't earn tenure the right legal way. Centeno didn't follow the policy that governs the process. She skated her way straight to full professorship. Perhaps Centeno should talk with Jeff who could offer her some sound advise on how to gain full professorship the legal way!
March 22, 2017 at 1:39pm
March 21, 2017 at 5:15pm------------- Who the hell are you to judge what is a petty issue, what the proper ranking of issues should be? In scientific and medical research some study AIDS, others cancer, or Heart attacks, others blindness, others hospital care. They are all important. Is podiatry as important as pulmonology? Perhaps not. Is there a need for both? Absolutely. So get off your high horse and knockoff with your self righteous holier than thou attitude. If you are so wise and such a judge please stop with your anonymity and publish your name. In the mean time please spare us your tears for Centeno.
March 21, 2017 at 5:15pm
Days and days of complaining about this topic, again?  It seems like a petty fixation on one professor's career if you ask me.  For all the major problems that ASU has to resolve for re-accreditation and financial solvency, let alone to excel as a rural university, I wouldn't place "Dr. Centeno's professorship" among the top 10 or even top 50 issues that need to be addressed.  Whether she is the most popular faculty member or the most published, the most "authentic" Latina or whatever that infantile gripe is about, Dr. Centeno is nowhere close to what is really wrong with ASU.
March 21, 2017 at 12:52pm
I think the point of discussion as to why Dr. Centeno is a full, tenured professor because she is a single mother and is a "minority" is valid. Why would anyone want to deny her tenure or promotion, knowing that she was likely to pull out the single mother card or her "hispanic" card? She has become a broken record by saying that she is hispanic, feminist, scholarly, and so forth, but she has not proven anything. And organizing Women's Week which has poor attendance and poor events does not count for doing anything scholarly.

It is sad that Dr. Centeno is able to get tenure and be a full professor without doing anything except taking a trip to Europe every year, that does nothing except allow her to get a free trip from students. I bet you the trip they are taking this year will be nothing more than a tourist adventure. Every one else who has gone up for tenure has to show they have done scholarly work and are proficient at teaching. She has done none of these. How can a person be a full professor and never publish anything? Maybe when I go up for promotion I should take fancy trips and stop doing research, and claim to be some sort of ethnicity I am not.

Dr. Centeno is discouraging. She is nothing of a professor, yet this evil bruja gets a free pass and gets to take free trips to Europe every year. Although she needs to go, she won't be hired anywhere else, because she would actually have to do something.
March 21, 2017 at 9:20am
The Tenure&Promotion Committee "gave" tenure to Dr. Centeno because she is a single mother? Is this the policy now here at Adams State to just "give away" tenure due to social status? This is an all time low which reflects no standards used to evaluate faculty whom are applying for tenure. What about single fathers up for tenure? What about divorced fathers up for tenure? What about widowed fathers up for tenure? And what about heterosexual single fathers up for tenure? The T&P Committee can now use the lowest-of-low litmus test for "giving" tenure because it's certainly not "earned" around here anymore. But, I digress, Dr. Elison earned his full professorship.

- A single white transgendered with three children
March 20, 2017 at 9:15pm
Wow, this is really an eye-opener regarding Dr. Centeno. As a graduate of Adams State I was "forced" to enroll in one of her courses. Something was missing from her lectures. Motivation, aspiration, inspiration, knowledge of the issues all lacking from Dr. Centeno. That's why I didn't give her glaring evaluations and am very surprised she hasn't been fired. I didn't like her.

- An authentic Latina!
March 20, 2017 at 8:54pm
I am so glad that someone else see Dr. Centeno for what she really is: a "fake" Latina, a "fake" feminist, and a totally "fake" teacher. I took her class last semester and she taught the subject like a middle school teacher. I'm is this college or am i back in high school? During class, I asked her about the other course i heard a lot about on radical feminism. I asked would it be taught again and when? She simply did not answer my question at hand, but proceeded to deflect by giving a plug for her course "Women and Culture". She only said, the professor who taught that course is no longer here. I looked at Dr. Centeno and asked why she ain't here what happened? Well, i eventually dropped her class because it was void of college-level teaching that i had hoped for and didn't challenge me at all.
March 20, 2017 at 4:31pm
March 20, 2017 at 12:52pm- Centeno has not published (maybe a letter to the editor), does not attend her discipline's conferences, does not do research, does not present conference papers (that would be difficult since she does not attend any conferences), lacks intellectual curiosity, and probably does not does not keep current in her field. This semester she has 45 students in four courses. Look at her department. That is the lowest average class size in her department. Check her enrollments in the general education courses HGP 110 in the fall and HGP 111 in spring. Compare her numbers with everyone else who teaches those courses. So she is not scholarly, students do not like her and will not enroll in her courses, and most of her efforts are in pressuring her Model UN enrollees to constantly sell cookies, burritos, donuts, whatever, to raise money for her European vacations. Hey Bev, here's a way to save some money. How much is she costing Adams?
March 20, 2017 at 12:52pm
I agree with the previous comments about Dr. Centeno. She has done nothing but use her to promote her travels around the world. Basically, this club takes a huge trip to go play and pretend to be the United Nations. What is the good in this? What has this done for the university besides getting money to travel and play around in a different country? This is her only claim to ever being worldly and cultured.

Dr. Centeno is nothing more than a mediocre professor, who stumbles through any lecture or presentation she gives, and has her favorites, all who get to travel with her and most likely earn better grades in her courses. She can't even fill a class the way her colleagues can. If she was the lone political science professor in that department, that program would see its end, because no one except her following of students take her classes.

How is she a full professor? Has she published anything? Does she even do research? No. She has done nothing scholarly, but who would deny a "latina" single mother promotions or tenure? All she does it gather students she can intimidate to continue traveling around and role-playing. This is not scholarly in any way. She is as real as a $3 bill, but gets pass after pass for being a wannabe "latina" and other things she claims to be.
March 19, 2017 at 3:34pm
March 17, 2017, 3:00 pm- You are right on the mark! 

"She is no scholar. She is only interested in having students raise money so she can travel around the world in her Model UN club.

Centeno has scammed and bullied hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to get her and a handful of her sycophant students a vacation to far away places. Upon their return all they talk about, all the photos they have, are of tourist sites, bars, restaurants, not of the actual conference. They receive disproportionally higher sums of money than the students who actually participate deserve. But anyone at the ASF Senate who questions this club getting so much money is immediately labeled a woman hating racist and is on Centeno's "do not speak to" list. What a dismal, depressing, mean spirited woman she is. Unlike Jeff, she had no trouble getting full professor. Everyone knew not to deny her, even though she has no real publications, gets mediocre student evaluations, and has the lowest enrollments in her department. If she had been denied it would have obviously been because she is a Latina woman. Yeah right.
March 19, 2017 at 3:20pm
With all the scandals going on at Adams let me add one more. I am sure most of the staff in Richardson Hall have NCAA brackets. I like sports myself. But most of them use their Adams STATE office computers to enter their brackets, see results, and so on. Is it ethical, legal, to use state computers for gambling? I know Ken Marquez, Frank Novotny, the ladies in HR are in the pool. Maybe I should alert the state legislature.
March 18, 2017 at 7:58pm
I totally concur with the previous comment regarding Dr. Centeno's "Women Week". Given her phony stance on women issues, it's no surprise that the event lacked "real" serious intellectual discourse on feminism. Please remind me again why a deep serious intellectual and scholar such as Nealy wasn't retained in that bullshit department? Oops, I figured it out, Dr. Centeno subjectively cast a mean-spirited vote against Nealy... wow. And now she can't even organize the "Women Week" event? And I've attended these programs in the past as well as this year, but I really don't see the point anymore.

Dr. Centeno marching for what cause? It certainly wasn't for women support whom skin are shades darker than hers?

You are correct, Crow-ther isn't eating by himself... hilarious.
March 18, 2017 at 3:00pm
I want to state how disappointed I am that Women's Week was not as lively on campus as it has been in the past. I think we have to thank Dr. Centeno for this. In my opinion, there was not as much variety in any of the events at all. Where was the excitement? What happened to males participating in events? I thought the panel on all males who identified as feminists went a long way to helping out Women's Week. In my opinion, having only all-female participation for the events is somewhat counter-productive in the true ideals of what feminism is about. With a good amount of focus on creating equality for women, Dr. Centeno and others should be reminded that anyone can be feminists, not just females.

But I am not surprised. Her events during Women's Week were not great. Even her "keynote" address was unmotivated and hardly anyone participated in her march. She is no scholar. She is only interested in having students raise money so she can travel around the world in her Model UN club. Such a disappointment that she has depleted Women's Week into a joke.
March 17, 2017 at 10:01pm
Congratulations Dr. Elison. Deserved! Crowther isn't the only one eating "crow".
March 17, 2017 at 12:24pm
Congratulations Dr. Elison, full professor. Vindication...
March 17, 2017 at 9:02am
Dr. Elison, congrats to you! Crowther is eating "crow" right about now!
March 16, 2017 at 10:13pm
Congratulations Dr. Elison, your promotion is well deserved. It is nice to see things work out the way they are supposed to.
March 8, 2017 at 3:45am
Given how badly Beverlee McClure bungled the ACLU lawsuit - embarrassing ASU, increasing their insurance premiums, and shredding her own credibility, one can only wonder what personal injury attorney would want to take on her case, anyway.

If I were Gilmer, I would call her bluff and speak out publicly.  There are MANY people who would happily contribute anonymously to a legal defense fund for Dr. Gilmer should McClure actually try to sue him.  And can you imagine just how terrible it would look if she did so?  What Board of Trustees would want to retain a university president who files personal injury lawsuits against former employees who speak out?  Go for it, Bev.
March 7, 2017 at 9:21pm
Today's forums were predictably disappointing. More of McClure pointing fingers, shirking responsibility and smearing her enemies (Gilmer and Elison). 

She even admitted that the forums weren't her idea. Rather some faculty reps came to her and told her she needed to do them. Why the hell aren't those people running this institution? They clearly understand the need for proper communication and transparency, unlike McClure and her minions--all sitting in the front row.

The beauty of it all was her deer in the headlights look as the room filled to capacity. Her comment that we were there because we cared. Yes Beverlee we care. We always have. But not about you and your "leadership". We care to see you exit before you completely burn it to the ground along with our careers. 

Final observation: very, very few questions. I wonder why? Could it be the culture of fear that she seems to think equates to "respect".

March 7, 2017 at 9:06pm
One of the beauties of positioning all of your mirrors toward the outside world is that you never have to look yourself in the face. Eventually, however, regardless of how long you ignore reality, the outside world will stare you in the face. I wonder, when that day comes, how McClure will justify her actions? At some point she'll have to admit that she's played a role in all of this. Unfortunately, for ASU students, staff, faculty, and the larger SLV community, it appears that it's going to take losing accreditation for McClure to see the light.
March 7, 2017 at 8:25pm
What is McClure's side of the non-disparagement / non-disclosure agreements? She couldn't help herself today and had to deride Gilmer with the implication that she could have filed a personal lawsuit against him. So unprofessional. Let's build trust by putting down others. Then there was the slightly veiled reference to Elison. No wonder we work in a culture of fear. Glad I attended because it just verified she is hopeless as a leader. Board members, please find us someone competent.
March 7, 2017 at 8:11pm
The open forums today were great! Whew! What a burden off my shoulders. Good thing we had these forums because now I truly feel like we work in a safe, happy environment.
March 6, 2017 at 4:34pm
One has to wonder, at minimum, why 1) President McClure didn't disclose to the campus that she and Dr. Gilmer went to mediation or 2) that they agreed jointly on the language of the statement attributed only to him. While so often assuring the campus that she is open and transparent, McClure has evaded disclosure whenever possible.

Note how ominous this mediation clause actually is: “6. Dr. Gilmer and his spouse agree not to make any disparaging remarks against the University or President McClure now or in the future. Dr. Gilmer understands that if he violates this term that President McClure has the right to exercise any legal recourse under the law against him that includes the disclosure of information in her possession.”

This is reminiscent of the “thick file” that McClure would carry around campus while referring to Ledonne, claiming he was on a police watch list that didn't exist, etc. McClure seems to believe that holding “information” against people (real or fabricated) is an effective way to intimidate and control them. J. Edgar Hoover would be proud!

It also gives us insight into how Richard Hall functions. When people wonder why no one is fired even after systemic wrongdoing with Extended Studies are uncovered, it is likely because so much of this “information in their possession” is collateral in exchange for continued silence. People are being bought off to remain compliant, still in on the take... or they are threatened with “legal recourse” should they speak out. Or they are just banned from campus under fictitious allegations, later settled without explanation.
March 4, 2017 at 4:09pm
How sad is it that we need a website like this to get information of what's going on at the very institution in which we work? You can argue that the president was going to address these issues at the forum but we all know there was no way that was going to happen. Even now with these documents in the open we'll just get another version of BS. Great stories indeed...
March 4, 2017 at 9:36am
Thank you, Watching Adams, for your ongoing service to the community. The latest round of documents you obtained and shared cast light into one of the darkest, most commonly frequented corners of ASU’s box of dirty secrets: Richardson Hall’s techniques for “disappearing” dissenting voices. Gilmer is the latest but certainly not the first in a long line of victims. 

The general impression the documents convey - point 6 of the mediation document, in particular - is of a vindictive, vengeful president who is willing to hold dirt over the heads of others in order to keep them silent. It's blackmail pure and simple, even if cloaked in legalistic officialspeak. Free speech is clearly alive and well at our public institution (not). What are you all so afraid of?

Fear not, similar documents lie just around the bend for McClure.
March 3, 2017 at 12:12pm
---- Editor's Note: We have received and published the mediation agreement between Dr. Gilmer and President McClure for public review.
March 3, 2017 at 8:44am
Is it the governor who has the power to fire university administrators and members of the BOT? They all need to go along with the alcoholic Crowther, neo-Nazi Margaret, incompetent HR tools, everyone on the business faculty, as well as extended studies. Clear out the swamp.
March 3, 2017 at 7:07am
As your article points out, Gilmer's "resignation" is a "story" but not a great one. It's pure fiction and it would be laughable if it weren't indicative of why ASU is dying. When will McClure be "resigned"?
March 2, 2017 at 8:56am
---- Editor's Note: We have received and published Dr. Chris Gilmer's letter of resignation and settlement agreement for public review.
February 28, 2017 at 8:14pm
Salazar is too egotistical, narcissistic, and most of all, power hungry to do what's in the best interest for ASU. As a current staff member, we all know this, but I guess somewhere deep down we ignorantly believe our current situation will change. In the meantime, McClure and her cronies as well as the BOT idly stand by as the building continues to burn. They should all be ashamed of themselves.
February 28, 2017 at 6:59pm
We need to get rid of Salazar. He has no idea how to run a university. ASU is almost bankrupt because of him!
February 28, 2017 at 6:31pm
… so undergrad enrollment has dropped by over 8% since Beverlee McClure arrived, Guaranteed Tuition has dropped ASU's credit rating, and the State Auditor concluded that ASU can no longer afford construction projects until it pays off its debts – with what increase in revenue? At what point does it become clear that McClure and the Board are unfit to lead Adams State University?
February 27, 2017 at 8:16pm
Has McClure been fired yet? Has dirt bag EC been fired yet? Is dirt bag EC having an affair with McClure? Has Adams burned to the ground financially? Has Elison sued Adams yet? Did faculty who applied get promoted and tenured this semester? Were any other faculty denied tenure and promotion besides Elison? Bye-bye Adams C.
February 27, 2017 at 6:40pm
I wonder if McClure's campus meetings have anything to do with she and Ed getting shut down when they tried to call the meeting of chairs and senators without Gilmer? What they did to Elison backfired. Trust in administration has never been lower. And trust in meeting "agendas."

Any predictions on what to expect at her meetings? Remember of course, she will read or hear about anything written here. Personally, I predict that it will be one big catharsis with everyone freely sharing their deepest fears and frustrations. All will be fixed, ASU will be saved.
February 26, 2017 at 2:34pm
That's a great game, 10:11! Here's my contribution, called “He Said, She Said: Disgraceful President Edition.”

Trump said: "One of the things I'm going to do if I win, and I hope we do and we're certainly leading. I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money. We're going to open up those libel laws. So when The New York Times writes a hit piece which is a total disgrace or when The Washington Post, which is there for other reasons, writes a hit piece, we can sue them and win money instead of having no chance of winning because they're totally protected,"

McClure said: “I believe that stronger laws are needed to protect victims of Internet mobs and cyber bullying. I hope others will join me in the effort to support these laws at the state and federal level. We cannot continue to allow Internet mobs to stifle the free speech of others.”

Trump said: "I love the First Amendment. Nobody loves it better than me. Nobody. Who uses it more than I do?”

McClure said: “ I will fight to protect the freedom of speech until my last breath, but alongside it I will fight for the preservation of civility. These cyber bullies, hiding behind freedom of speech, have in essence taken away the rights of others to speak freely by intimidating them into silence.”

Trump said: "I’m against the people that make up stories and make up sources. They shouldn’t be allowed to use sources unless they use somebody’s name. Let their name be put out there. Let their name be put out. 'A source says that Donald Trump is a horrible, horrible human being.' Let ’em say it to my face. Let there be no more sources."

McClure said: “It is tragically easy to sit behind a computer and lob shameful insults across the digital universe. Leveraging the tools of connectivity, meant to bring us closer together, cyber bullies use the Internet as a means to be hurtful while never having to look their victims in the eye... I am disgusted by what I've seen. These attacks have been the weapons of cowards, safely hiding behind a website to exercise their aggression.”
February 26, 2017 at 10:11am
Let's play a new game, Trump or McClure?
1. He and his team or she and her team "are serving notice that a new era in media relations is coming, an era in which all criticism is by definition oppositional -- and all critics are to be treated as enemies." Answer below.

2. "It's not just that both Putin and [he / she] lie, it is that they lie in the same way and for the same purpose: blatantly, to assert power over truth itself." Answer below.

3. "A culture that has accepted that graft is the norm, that rules don't matter as much as relationships with those in power, and that people can be punished for speech and acts that remain theoretically legal -- such a culture is not easily reoriented back to constitutionalism, freedom, and public integrity." Answer below.

1. It should be obvious due to the tense that this quote was written about Trump. For McClure, it would have been written in past tense and continuing (Ledonne, HLC, Elison).

2. Can't lose on this one: Trump and McClure. Everything with extended studies is fine, all fixed last spring, HLC is being a bully. Or Ledonne is a terrorist on a State Police watchlist. Or Gilmer resigned. Hah!

3. Trick question. ASU under Svaldi and continuing down the rat hole under McClure: graft, relationships with those in power, lack of integrity - extended studies, Novotnys, Crowther, Doell, Schlaufman, Mansheim, all those who taught hundreds of students online with minimal contact...

The parallels boggle the mind.
February 25, 2017 at 9:27am
Reactive leadership, such as the type of leadership currently being practiced by McClure, is analogous to the high school football team who is behind in the 4th quarter with seconds left in the game and is forced to play hard defense. The Open Forum next week to discuss "trials and tribulations" is a reactive and defensive tactic that is too little, too late.
February 24, 2017 at 8:48pm
Thank you, 6:35pm. I ask myself the same questions every day: What is wrong with this place? What kind of institution for higher learning is this? Is anyone out there listening? This institution is utterly diseased. It is hopelessly beyond internal repair. The idea of now discussing "grievances, fears and new ideas in a safe and open setting" takes too little, too late to a whole new level. The notion of holding bold conversations after virtually all dissenting perspectives - save Jeff's - have been run out of town is a JOKE. 

Except it's not funny. It's tragic. 

Hang in there, Jeff. This is Alamosa's version of the Salem witch trials. The fever and fervor will fade and the false accusers will disappear into the woodwork when outsiders finally come in, take over, and save the institution from itself. I can't believe that day is very far off.
February 24, 2017 at 6:35pm
Here's a quick point of clarification: Thomas GILMORE was ASU's president 1995-2003. Chris GILMER was VP for Academic Affairs for about seven months before mysteriously “resigning” earlier in February.

You know, this hostility towards Dr. Elison reveals some of the underlying dysfunction at Adams State. The guy has been asserting his rights as a tenured faculty member, quoting from the handbook, standing up for himself, using the legal processes available to advocate for his rightful interests, and in return he is being run down as “unstable” and deserving of “rejection.” What is wrong with this place? I guess everyone here is supposed to take it lying down, just follow the administration's orders, and exert no critical thought or speak openly. What kind of institution for higher learning is this? I hope the HLC pays attention to how faculty are being repressed.
February 24, 2017 at 2:17pm
Good god, would someone please promote this very unstable man?!

Mr. Elison has been rejected by his department, rejected by the promotion committee, rejected by the senate, his email outing Dr. Gilmore's insurrection against the President got Gilmore fired, and yet he continues on and on and on.

Call the attorney general, show us your teaching evaluations one more time, tell us about your research, we know, you are Mr. Perfect and such a victim.

One thing is sure about President McClure, she PNG'd the wrong damn person. 

- Not Jeff Elison, and not by a long shot!
February 24, 2017 at 11:36am
Babbitt or McClure toadie.
February 23, 2017 at 4:45pm
Babbitt alert at 1:45. Just the type the AAUP statement refers to: "Certainly a college or university replete with genial Babbitts is not the place to which society is likely to look for leadership."
February 23, 2017 at 4:40pm
I presume 1:45 is a School of Business faculty member based on their (largely irrelevant) right-wing political diatribe. This is valuable to examine in more detail because any Adams State employee who would regard “income redistribution, social justice, etc.” as ”scary ideology” is either very confused or willfully ignorant about how public education works.

The inescapable fact is that public sector education (K-12 or higher ed) is predicated upon income redistribution. It is funded by the collection and allocation of tax revenue for the purpose of investing in the future workforce and citizenry. Whether through state funding, federal student loan programs, or other government financial aid, Adams State University only exists because of “income redistribution.” So if you like collecting a paycheck from ASU, let alone believe in its charter to serve the public good of education, you should not be so quick to dismiss its funding structure as some scary “Alt-Left ideology.”
February 23, 2017 at 3:12pm
Thanks 1:45, you pointed out two more violations of Handbook procedures in handling my promotion application. That makes about 5 so far. My case just keeps getting better.

"the Department Chair ... may add documentation bearing upon the Faculty member’s teamwork, as described in IV.B above or any verified peer reviews"

and IV.B: "any documented evidence of a lack of teamwork shall be added to the Faculty member’s evidence folder and considered when evaluating the faculty member in the category of Teaching"

The Faculty Handbook-violating senate censure wasn't until a month after my promotion meeting. The faculty senate event to which you refer occurred less than 24 hours before my promotion meeting, my chair did not add this to my folder as far as I know, and the committee members who voted against me either did not tie my email to any criteria or they tried to force it under service, not teamwork as specified in the Handbook. They were improvising. In contrast, two committee members stated I had clearly met the Handbook criteria. What you think doesn't matter. It's what the Assistant Attorney General thinks and others making the subsequent recommendations or decisions.

And BTW, sections of ASU's Faculty Handbook are verbatim from the AAUP.

- Jeff Elison
February 23, 2017 at 2:10pm
Yes 1:45pm, and who does the ASU administration work for? The people of Colorado, the students who attend, and the public at large. The source of those paychecks seems to have been forgotten at Adams State, which repeatedly violates constitutional rights, academic freedom, tenure provisions, and the public trust in favor of self enrichment and personal ego.

It is little wonder that ASU rejects professional faculty organizations like AAUP in favor of its own corrupt regime. If one wants to know why the university is on academic probation, one need not look further.
February 23, 2017 at 1:45pm
The post about AAUP's position on collegiality is interesting. It is consistent with much of the Alt-Left's ideology about "equity," income redistribution, social justice, etc. Innocent enough words, but scary ideology. In fact the very ideology that was rejected by the popular vote in over 30 states last November.

But none of us work for the AAUP, we work for ASU, and the "Faculty Oath" you signed relates to your positions here, and here you are held to a standard of "Teamwork." If you have failed to meet the standard of "Teamwork" such as leaving your fellow senators in a lurch trying to figure out who wrote what lies about Dr. Gilmer, then that evidence and the censuring resolution of senate that followed "shall be added to the faculty member's evidence folder," per the Faculty Handbook.

So go ahead and quote the AAUP, the NRA, Black Lives Matter, or Ducks Unlimited, your paycheck is not signed by any of those 
February 23, 2017 at 12:49pm
I used to be a work-study for computing and that place is a mess. I was insulted daily in my time there by administrators and fellow student workers who did their bidding. A few of them even think that if they continue doing what they're told despite integrity, they'll have a job once they graduate, which didn't happen for any of the previous students that were offered this.

Before I left, a full time employee stood up for the students like me and put an end to it. Not at a cost of his own employment though, since then the intimidating supervisor has changed his focus on him and is doing some insane things to the poor guy. The administrator actually approached other work-studies and asked them to treat him like dirt. along with spreading rumors that he's on drugs and speculating that he takes psychiatric medications. very very shady and immoral coming from administration, especially for such a great employee and person. It's just sickening and I could no longer be a part of it.
February 23, 2017 at 10:55am
From the AAUP article On Collegiality as a Criterion for Faculty Evaluation:

"The current tendency to isolate collegiality as a distinct dimension of evaluation, however, poses several dangers. Historically, “collegiality” has not infrequently been associated with ensuring homogeneity and hence with practices that exclude persons on the basis of their difference from a perceived norm. The invocation of “collegiality” may also threaten academic freedom. In the heat of important decisions regarding promotion or tenure, as well as other matters involving such traditional areas of faculty responsibility as curriculum or academic hiring, collegiality may be confused with the expectation that a faculty member display “enthusiasm” or “dedication,” evince “a constructive attitude” that will “foster harmony,” or display an excessive deference to administrative or faculty decisions where these may require reasoned discussion. Such expectations are flatly contrary to elementary principles of academic freedom, which protect a faculty member’s right to dissent from the judgments of colleagues and administrators.

A distinct criterion of collegiality also holds the potential of chilling faculty debate and discussion. Criticism and opposition do not necessarily conflict with collegiality. Gadflies, critics of institutional practices or collegial norms, even the occasional malcontent, have all been known to play an invaluable and constructive role in the life of academic departments and institutions. They have sometimes proved collegial in the deepest and truest sense. Certainly a college or university replete with genial Babbitts is not the place to which society is likely to look for leadership."
February 23, 2017 at 10:02am
"Lost focus of non student athletes" huh. They have lost focus of all students. The administrators and staff really just take advantage to push their own agendas. Instead of working on safety for students they redo their building and have cameras covering every inch of it. Meanwhile, Student areas and parking lots where most crimes occur aren't even on the administrators radar for safety. The former police chief was fixing this, but got fired because he showed integrity. With the fancy conferences where people really just go to party, erm, social networking. Paid vacation on the company, erm, the students dollar. Often The stuff they report back from these conferences fall under the header of common knowledge, 5k to learn something that's readily available for free is just stupid. This campus only cares about the students money and ensuring the staff's own pleasure. That's why we are failing together.
February 22, 2017 at 5:58pm
Of course the ASU-owned Valley Courier had the same headline: ASU Improving Its Financial Position.
February 22, 2017 at 5:15pm
I see the ASU spin room is still in full effect. Compare the Denver Post's headline yesterday: “Adams State University in Alamosa is fighting deficit spending, state watchdog says - The San Luis Valley rural college can’t afford any new capital projects until it boost revenue, cuts costs” ... with the one from the ASU website: “Adams State University improving its financial position.”

So anyone reading only the university's state propaganda wouldn't know that anything was wrong with ASU's financial position to begin with and also wouldn't understand what problems led to that.

This misleading ASU headline comes from a long line of great hits, like when ASU initially declared legal victory with “Mediation decides in favor of Adams State University” (ASU paid $100k and lifted the ban) or when the administration trumpeted “ASU well positioned to improve debt rating” (Moody's had just downgraded the university's credit rating).  I guess when you're at the bottom, it's always better to be looking up?

How anyone buys what ASU is selling to the public is truly a mystery.
February 22, 2017 at 9:20am
The audio from yesterday's legislative review of ASU's performance audit is fascinating. Some real gems in there, mainly how badly our huge investments in construction are now hurting us.

McClure: "We lost focus on the non-student athletes and how do we increase those." Most definitely! We need more non-students on campus.

Extended Studies now reports directly to McClure and it will stay that way through the HLC review. That makes sense after she ousted Gilmer and considering Margaret's abilities. Now even less of the president's time will go toward raising money. Gilmer's expensive hiring and firing was never mentioned.

Senator Neville: "Tell me about the Board because I'm looking at a situation where apparently some decisions were made, that the debt load was increased extremely high over the last few years to a point where it's not really sustainable. So, I'm concerned, do we have the same Board? ... We have this new focus, a little more of a fiscal responsibility focus, which apparently seemed to be lacking over the previous few years." That's an understatement.
February 21, 2017 at 10:28am
I am afraid to include my name because of the campus culture of fear and retaliation. My question is - what is the highly paid Board of Trustees doing about this crisis?
February 21, 2017 at 9:51am
 .... and no doubt, jobs will be lost. Given ASU's negligent accounting practices, surely it should be those in charge of the books who walk the plank first.

Perhaps this is a chance for Dr McClure to show real leadership. If jobs are to be lost, how about she leads this little parade over the cliff?
February 21, 2017 at 9:27am
Also from the Huron Report's performance audit press release: "With tuition revenue of $5,636 per student, Adams’ tuition rates were some of the highest Huron found in its peer group and concluded that above-market tuition rate hikes might not be a viable solution to the problem."

Good thing ASU raised tuition to some of the highest in its peer group prior to locking in those rates with "Guaranteed Tuition" for ASU's economically-disadvantaged students.  But when you are building fancy new athletics facilities, polishing the administration building, and paying out huge salaries to senior administrators, VPs returning to faculty, and a select few department chairs and senior faculty, one must pay the bills somehow.  Though in ASU's case, it has been coming up short by "$8.9 million in Fiscal Year 2015 and $6.6 million in Fiscal Year 2016."
February 21, 2017 at 8:31am
If we increased enrollment by 500 students (!), we would still be losing money, based on Exhibit 23 in the auditors' report. We would need about 800 to break even. That's not going to happen quickly. Things are probably even worse than the report indicates given the fact that ASU's profits from extended studies will drop. The report and ASU's response agree we can't raise tuition substantially. Programs will be cut.
February 21, 2017 at 8:18am
From the Huron Report released this morning, this should have people worried:
"allocate resources strategically by considering eliminating or restructuring any financially under-performing programs as an expense reduction opportunity and investing in those financially high-performing programs that are most sustainable and impactful."

Eliminating programs is the easiest way to get rid of tenured faculty.

This is also worrisome:
"However, for the years included in our analysis, there were challenges in calculating instructional costs and related revenues on a per-program basis because of the University’s data structures. Though not uncommon in higher education, the University’s approach to cost allocation meant that constructing more nuanced, program-specific cost analyses was beyond what could be accomplished as part of this evaluation."

ASU's record keeping is so bad they couldn't even figure out which programs were doing poorly? Does administration know which programs are struggling? McClure's campus announcement about the report makes no mention of cutting programs.
February 17, 2017 at 10:33pm
How can you talk about how cyber bullying is so wrong when you allowed a white folks only study group to exist on the ASU campus? How have you proved to students that you support our HSI status? Sick.
February 17, 2017 at 2:32pm
Just a quick comment to say that I almost never visit this site unless Dr. McClure references it someway in her communications. If she is trying to keep people away from this site she is doing a terrible job. (you can insert your own quick jab about the terrible job she's doing in other areas) It reminds me of how I don't watch SNL unless 45 tweets about it. Wait, does that make Danny our little community's very own Alec Baldwin?
February 17, 2017 at 8:37am
The Troll obsessed with Ed Crowther's web page photos needs to get a life. The discussion of the pictures is silly and clearly this person has plenty of spare time on his/her hands. The Slipper is not only a bar, but one of the most popular restaurants in town, and nobody should be ashamed having a photo taken there. Oh I forgot that the concern is really for the child in the background. Really? No one believes that. Those of us who support Ed are reluctant to post here on the Danny & Jeff show because the small handful of trolls will come back with even more hateful posts.
February 16, 2017 at 9:31pm:
I think this quote from President Truman is especially appropriate:

"There are some people who wish us to enact laws which would seriously damage the right of free speech and which could be used not only against subversive groups but against other groups engaged in political or other activities which were not generally popular. Such measures would not only infringe on the Bill of Rights and the basic liberties of our people; they would also undermine the very internal security they seek to protect.

Laws forbidding dissent do not prevent subversive activities; they merely drive them into more secret and more dangerous channels. Police states are not secure; their history is marked by successive purges, and growing concentration camps, as their governments strike out blindly in fear of violent revolt. Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear." - Harry S. Truman, August 8th 1950
February 16, 2017 at 12:23pm

At least he admits "After 28 years here, I'm starting to scare myself.", while sporting an older ASC shirt.

He appears to enjoy MLK discussions. Apparently, he also admits to having a future (presumably at ASC/ASU) and an alter crocodilian ego as well, while standing next to a stuffed gator wearing a fishing 

"My alter ego and I in New Orleans (Back when I had a future!)"

Is Ricky Lake or Jerry Springer available for a town hall with ASU administration, faculty and students?
February 16, 2017 at 10:00am
Hey Bev, Do you really think a photo of a department head taken in a bar is appropriate for recruiting students? Think parents will be impressed? How about prospective students and their parents who have deeply held religious beliefs? Crowther was embarrassing and pathetic already with the shaggy burnt out 60s look. But now this? Is no one at all bothered by this narcissistic pagan?
February 15, 2017 at 4:40pm
Sorry 2:03pm, you are factually incorrect.  Rubi Slipper is private property that serves the public but is privately owned.   Photographing a minor without parental consent and then publishing the photo online is legally actionable.  It would take a simple cease and desist letter from a lawyer hired by the child's family to compel ASU to remove the image and there is no way the Attorney General's office would advise otherwise.

But really, the problem here is that a senior faculty member's official work photo depicts him sitting at a bar.  Is this truly that difficult to understand?

- Not Jeff Elison
February 15, 2017 at 2:54pm
I once heard that the speech we deem the most hateful and detrimental is the speech we must protect the most. It is easy to accept and agree with uncontrolled rants that fit our agenda. Whether that be personal, religious or political. In most every case that speech that fits our agenda is ever as bit hateful as speech that does not fit our agenda. 

Sticks and Stones my Break my Bones, but Names Will Never Hurt Me. It was true when I was five years old and whether you like it or not, it is still true today! Those that teach, say and preach otherwise are doing nothing but making our culture weaker and putting our freedoms in harm's way.
February 15, 2017 at 2:10pm
While the campus at large is distracted with fighting over Liberal vs Conservative, male vs female vs non gender, etc. Which by the way is what they want, there's plenty of Liberals and Conservatives at ASU working together to line their pockets. Watch the hidden hand or shall I say the sleight of the hidden hand.
February 15, 2017 at 2:03pm
This web is becoming more dumbass by the minute. Ask the hostess at the Ruby Slipper if it is a private bar and restaurant or if it is open to the public? It is public, and so are the views inside, to include any photographs that may be taken. 

"Jeff" (Ellisen?) proclaims to not write on the site by writing on the site and proclaims he is not "losing it" which is generally a sign you are losing it. No wonder he is PNG with his wife, PNG with the promotion committee, PNG with his department, and PNG with the senate of the faculty. Dumbass.
February 15, 2017 at 12:50pm
Make this merry go round stop! Bev, LEAVE while we still have a chance to save our university, community, dignity and cultures. You are driving us further and further to the ground. You have continued to lie, shun my culture and my home. You came here with your flashy shoes and boots and had no intentions to create transparency. My family has a long history of attending and teaching at this university and for you to tear it down. Tú eres uña bruja mala. 

Your cyber bullying message is only a scapegoat to which you do on a daily basis. If you stand true to ASU send out a message that really states the issues at hand. What are you doing with my education? Will my degree be accredited? What about people's jobs? What about those who had a hand of bringing this university to probation? Talk about accountability? ME MENTISTE! Estás mintiendo!Arruinaste todo! 

I believe I am being sexist, no wait yo so una mujer también!  I am a LBGTQ Mexicana estudiante. Maybe you too should also admit you are LBGTQ and be proud. Come out of the closet. 

- María José de el valle
February 15, 2017 at 12:03pm
I encourage everyone to compare Dr. Gilmer's "statement" to Dr. McClure's recent rant on "cyber bullying." The style is very similar and unusual phrases like "Internet mob" appear in both. This makes it very likely that Dr. Gilmer's "statement" was actually written by Dr. McClure and required to be signed by Dr. Gilmer before he could resign in good standing.

For all her bluster, she is not a very bright person.
February 15, 2017 at 11:34am
Small point of fact: a pub (such as Rubi Slipper) is a private establishment - and not a public place. Photographing a minor in a private location and without parental consent, then publishing it on a website is generally not a good idea. Plus, who would want to be photographed with Crowther? That should be a crime.
February 15, 2017 at 11:25am
9:29am looks like it was written by McClure as part of a plan to PNG Elison's butt. Using words like "irrational", "seek help", "hurt someone" sounds disturbingly similar to the rhetoric that was used against Ledonne. Based on the latter case, no facts or examples are necessary for asu administration, just innuendo.

From what I've seen Elison shows up, teaches classes, meets with students, and always says hello. Doing his job and nothing unusual.
February 15, 2017 at 11:03am
I wrote nothing about Crowther's bar picture or the baby. I have not posted anything irrational. And I'm certainly not "losing it."

- Jeff Elison
February 15, 2017 at 9:29am
Jeff, it doesn't matter how much you hate Dr. Crowther, it is not illegal to meet at a pub, nor is it illegal for the baby to be photographed in a public place, as you infer in your previous message.

It is feared you are "losing it" and becoming irrational in your posts and behavior. Please seek help before you hurt someone or yourself.
February 15, 2017 at 8:36am
Yes, Bev, we are fighting to save the university from you. Without hyperbole, it is fair to say that you are a failure by almost every standard. 

For a start, during your tenure, you have failed to raise enrollment. 

You have failed to improve graduation rates. 

You have failed to raise any real money for the university. 

You have failed to improve ASU's Moody's rating of ASU's credit worthiness. 

Instead of pulling everyone together, you have widened schisms into gaping chasms. 

You have brought ASU into public disrepute with your failed attempt to crush LeDonne in court. 

You compounded that failure by lying about the outcome, saying you won when clearly you failed. 

You have failed to nurture talent - in fact, only last week you got rid of Gilmer who was universally recognized as a competent, savvy straight-shooter who had the expertise to straighten out the HLC mess.

You take the credit for others' achievements, and blame others for your failures.

Meanwhile your remuneration package has sucked nearly half a million dollars out of ASU. And all we have to show for it is ................Nothing.

You are a failure. Please leave.
February 15, 2017 at 8:32am
We should pass no-confidence votes in the leadership of the Board. They are responsible for employing incompetent Svaldi for many years (lots of damage) and hiring equally incompetent McClure (more damage). No university should go on like this!
February 15, 2017 at 8:20am
"We cannot continue to allow Internet mobs to stifle the free speech of others," whines Dr McClure. So will she lobby for laws that also prevent her mob of sycophants from bullying her critics? I think not.
February 15, 2017 at 8:12am
Dr McClure says she is "speaking out to protect my dignity." You cain't protect what you ain't got.
February 15, 2017 at 8:08am
Dr McClure, you say it's cowardly to fire off anonymous criticism, but when Chris Gilmer offered his frank, honest and upfront criticism, you got rid of him. So why the hell would anyone want to stand up just you can stomp on them? 

What goes around, comes around. You are reaping what you've sown.
February 15, 2017 at 8:01am
Cyber bullying is at least democratic if unsavory. Look at all the nastiness expressed against the likes of Elison, Waddell, Smith, Smith, Centeno, etc, but McClure is okay with that because her critics are "evil" so it's okay to hound them.

As Truman said, "if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." And clearly McClure is having a melt-down. Time to vacate the building, Bev.
February 15, 2017 at 7:53am
Why does McClure think cyber bullying is not okay but it is alright for her to publicly brand someone a terrorist, use the full resources of a university including its police department and legal services to bully a powerless and jobless former employee, to constructively dismiss others or even simply "resign" them because she doesn't like them anymore?

She truly is an irony-free zone. Worse, she is an honesty-free zone.
February 15, 2017 at 2:10am
Regarding McClure's cyber bullying whining: Yes, Beverlee... stronger laws are needed to censor freedom of speech. It's especially important because if that freedom of speech disagrees with you, you may then fire that individual because, after all, disagreeing with a woman is simply sexist. And yes, I am a woman.

You are simply unbelievable.
February 15, 2017 at 1:03am
Regarding photos and general ASU web presence... After the other lawsuits (Remember the campus cop stealing from students and the postal service?), there was this one...

Coach denies threat - Trustees to review issue

Do you feel that 3 years is enough time for the next link to be removed? It's even a high Google search result return, 2nd in my case for "ASU Chief". 

It's still hosted on an outdated and VERY insecure version of WordPress. According to this, I hope this former Chief is receiving compensation. Even if it is a Beta/Preview site.

Cyber bullying has many meanings, and Dr. McClure holds the title currently, so look into your mirrors before claiming victorious victim and running the jewels on your campus community, education, tuition and people's futures.
February 14, 2017 at 11:18pm
February 14, 2017 at 3:29pm-Crowther holds department meetings off campus at bars. Either there or the Brew Pub. I suspect that probably violates state law but hey, it's Ed Crowther. The man who does whatever he wants while administrators enable him. Crowther drinks enough at these meetings that surely his blood alcohol count is in excess of state law so perhaps he will be in the newspaper again soon. Take a good look at this man everyone. This is a photo of a truly amoral individual. He has no concept of right or wrong. His narcissism has no limit. In many ways he typifies everything that is wrong at Adams.
February 14, 2017 at 3:29pm
Has anyone else noticed that Ed Crowther's faculty page has a picture of him seated at Rubi Slipper, a local bar?  Brilliant, especially for a guy with a history of driving under the influence.  Also, I feel sorry for the baby pictured directly behind him, whose parents likely didn't give permission for the infant to appear on ASU's website.
February 13, 2017 at 5:18pm
So what happens to the National Center for Historically-Underserved Students? It wasn't Beverlee or Margaret who drew all those fine people here. I'm guessing it is gone along with Gilmer. Such a waste.
February 13, 2017 at 10:17am
Of course Margaret wanted the article about Gilmer's resignation to be removed. It points out that she applied for the VPAA Position but it was painfully obvious during the interview that she had no idea what she was doing; the search committee refused to hire her and would have failed the search had Gilmer not accepted. Plus, McClure was in no position to install Margaret as VPAA against everyone's wishes after just having lost the ACLU lawsuit. The article also points out the feud between Gilmer and McClure was largely over his high level of competence and her embarrassing degree of incompetence in dealing with the HLC.
February 13, 2017 at 8:40am
The article about Margaret Doell interfering with free speech would be unbelievable, if this weren't ASU. Any critical free speech is seen as a threat to be squashed. Maybe she can send Crowther to Antonito to beat them up.
February 12, 2017 at 8:18am
It seems like almost everyone I talk to has applied elsewhere or at least thought about it. My point about the health-care worker was: community members are paying attention and they are worried.
February 12, 2017 at 8:13am
Dr. Gilmer is a smart man. He clearly knows something and risks severe retaliation if he exposes it, so he saved himself and exited from the sh*tshow.

Has anyone mentioned the "hiring freeze?"
February 11, 2017 at 10:46pm
Similar story for me!  I rented in Alamosa because I never felt like ASU was a reliable or stable long-term employer.  Ironically, senior administrators said they wished they could convince more young faculty to buy a home, start a family, and stay at ASU.  But the problem is, ASU doesn't treat its employees with nearly enough value or appreciation to make it feel like home.  I know so many faculty (and even some staff) who are eyeing the door and applying elsewhere as often as possible.
February 11, 2017 at 7:32pm
A health-care worker here in Alamosa told me he and his wife didn't buy a house since they moved here 3 years ago because ASU is too screwed up; and now, after hearing about Gilmer's "resignation" he's thankful they didn't.
February 11, 2017 at 6:05pm
Predictably, there is still no information on the ASU website about Dr. Gilmer's resignation. It tends to be the last place to find out what is going on at Adams State.

The Valley Courier ran this article yesterday, which is basically a re-arranging of Dr. Gilmer's “statement” that itself remains a mystery. The only additional information it contains is from the already-unreliable statements of BOT Chair Arnold Salazar, who famously insisted Ledonne didn't get “one dime” from the ACLU lawsuit. So here's what Salazar says, the closest to any explanation on hand:

“While Dr. Gilmer's tenure at Adams State University was short, it was productive ," said Arnold Salazar, chairman of the Adams State University Board of Trustees. "Dr. Gilmer voluntarily and at his own initiation resigned his position."

This leads to more questions for Salazar and company:

1. What circumstances led up to Dr. Gilmer “voluntarily and at his own initiation” resigning? Most employees who just moved across the country seven months ago do not wake up, rub their eyes, and resign from their high-paying administrator job in which they were clearly very engaged.

2. Did ASU do anything at all to try and resolve whatever matters led to this circumstance such that Dr. Gilmer could be retained? If there was mediation or some legal arbitration, just say so. Much like ASU's diminishing student body, one wonders why the institution so casually brushes off anyone and everyone who has issues with the university. It just demoralizes everyone else.

3. Does it occur to ASU's PR team that these random departures are destabilizing to employees and create a perception in the community that 1) all is not well at ASU and 2) they are being deceived about what is really going on behind the scenes?

4. There is mention made of an “interactive style which President McClure and I pledge to model together” but then Dr. Gilmer “resigns effective immediately” and cannot speak publicly, calling into question this entire statement. Does this “interactive style” include explaining what really happened to drive Gilmer out of ASU?

5. Isn't the real issue here that President McClure is a vindictive, narcissistic, and deeply insecure person who continues to cultivate a culture at ASU that drives away talented and committed people, replacing them with dutiful lackeys who lash out at any agents of change?

But don't count on these questions being answered by the ASU administration anytime soon.
February 10, 2017 at 7:44pm
Fire McClure NOW! We need new competent leadership!
February 10, 2017 at 7:27pm
Gilmer's "resignation", an interesting euphemism, was not surprising. It is incredibly disappointing, but not surprising, it was either him or Beverlee. The Board of Trustees made the wrong choice and now we will all suffer, including our students. And so will McClure; campus is buzzing with rumors about why a competent administrator would be forced out while an incompetent president would be protected. I'm sure her days are limited.

What is most surprising is how poorly McClure has handled all of this. As the previous post points out, her last two emails were total failures from a marketing, leadership perspective. She is instilling deep doubt rather than confidence. Each move shows her incompetence.
February 10, 2017 at 3:55pm
So Dr. McClure emailed the campus to try and calm everyone down before the weekend.  Here's my favorite quote: "I know that for many Dr. Gilmer's resignation was an unexpected turn of events and it has created some uncertainty and many questions."

The next sentence should read: “And I am not going to answer any of them. Instead, I will distract you with empty verbiage about how much I value each of you, until you say something against my actions, and then I'll publicly humiliate you and drive you out of ASU.”

Here are a few questions that faculty have at this point:
1. Why does Dr. Gilmer's statement, which appears to be in fulfillment of the terms from a settlement, not mention anything about resigning or transitioning out of his office?
2. Why is Dr. Gilmer publicly silent about his reason for leaving ASU and why can't he speak further? In other words, why did he sign a non-disclosure agreement as part of his settlement, unlike Ledonne?
3. Most of all, why was a well-qualified academic professional removed from his position after only six months of service? Was it because they were about the most impressive six months any ASU administrator has put in to actually identify and reform the problems with ASU? Isn't the real message here: “if you expose the depth of our problems, you're the problem and will be removed”?
February 10, 2017 at 3:31pm
I believe I've now read all the relevant documents, including Jeff Elison's purportedly offensive email, and I haven't read anything that even remotely justifies his censure by the Faculty Senate. What I have seen is the kind of robust political debate that ought to be protected rather than shut down.

Elison's comments here on WA have been consistently civil, in sharp contrast to those of some of his petty detractors.
February 10, 2017 at 2:47pm
The university president setting up mirrors pointed at her rival employee's residential window? Taking a faculty's private email about removing the president and posting it around the office building and in bathrooms? Secretly recording public campus meetings to prove the president said a former employee is on a police watchlist that doesn't exist?

Jesus Christ, this must be the most toxic and dysfunctional university campus in the United States! Any outsider reading this week's comments can see that it will take more to solve this than a weekend retreat in Taos or even on the high-end estate of the Salazar Ranch.

Adams State's major problem is not Beverlee McClure or Danny Ledonne or Extended Studies or the HLC. It is actually the same problem America is experiencing right now. It is a lack of basic trust, respect, transparency or camaraderie. Until you have that, no budget will really work and no department will ever get along. This website isn't causing that, it is exposing how profoundly rotted the ASU Campus culture really is.

It should be entirely obvious that the solution to ASU's (or the USA's) problems isn't banning people, driving them away, or shunning them until they leave. We must find ways to listen to each other and work together under competent and supportive leadership. The administration needs to be cleared out and replaced while the employees need to take a hard look at how to be supportive, trusting, civil and cooperative.
February 10, 2017 at 2:24pm
"So one of them lied, Elison or Gilmer. ... In this same email Elison lies about the classified staff being in on the deal."

You are over-interpreting a personal email w/o speaking to the author. I've explained elsewhere, including a very long email to all senators, that I was projecting my hoped-for outcome of the riff between President McClure and VPAA Gilmer. I hoped the Board would understand that he was far more important to the success of ASU. He said he would talk to the Board about faculty concerns regarding Extended Studies and HLC as part of his job; I added my hopes. I took liberties in an informal personal email, but neither of us lied. Similarly, I took the liberty of referring to Dr. Gilmer as "provost" as a short-cut appropriate for the intended audience.

Regarding the classified staff, I meant a different group of employees, but used the wrong term. No lie there either. Funny how NO ONE has bothered to ask me about any of this. Hell, I wasn't even invited to my own trial!

Send me an email or stop by my office and I can share with you the 18-page attachment from my email to senators. Oddly, I haven't seen that one posted on bulletin boards or bathroom walls.

- Jeff Elison
February 10, 2017 at 1:58pm
What would a march to support Dr. Gilmer achieve? Probably nothing, of course – just like the march to support Dr. McClure. My point is simply that it is revealing what this institution pretends to care about as a matter of public relations.
February 10, 2017 at 1:53pm
What's a march on ASU campus gonna achieve? Regardless of the cause the best it can accomplish is make the front page of the Paw Print.
February 10, 2017 at 1:47pm
ASU has always had a "secret society" atmosphere to it. Before McClure there were others at the helm who had goons reflective of them and now they've just been replaced with goons reflective of McClure. ASU is just a microcosm of what's been going on in this country for the last few administrations. We must not fail to keep our eye on the campus as a whole though because there are rogue groups scattered about that are just as vile and corrupt that don't get noticed. Just like carbon monoxide. Beware of the silent killers.
February 10, 2017 at 1:42pm
Why isn't there a march called "Standing Strong for Dr. Gilmer"? He certainly did more to improve ASU than McClure has... if Beez, Carol GM, etc. really want to unite faculty, they should start by organizing support for Dr. Gilmer.
February 10, 2017 at 1:37pm
How did Elison cause Gilmer's departure? With his email of December 11, which others had and I found tacked to a bulletin board in one of the buildings. Elison wrote: "I met with him (Gilmer) last week and he said he will speak to the Board of Trustees this week about removing the president." Gilmer denied that in front of the faculty senate. So one of them lied, Elison or Gilmer. In this case it is believed Gilmer lied so Elison got him fired by outing him. In this same email Elison lies about the classified staff being in on the deal.

Now we have Gilmer gone - good. Elison exposed as a liar, publicly censured, not promoted, and out of the house on his ear. All of this is earned and well deserved. He is disgraced and should leave.
February 10, 2017 at 1:24pm
I have immense respect for Dr. Elison and great admiration for the strength of character and fortitude he is displaying while being openly flayed by his so-called "colleagues". I know he is sincere when he states, that "I honestly believe Beez and others feel we've reached a point where we need to try something new", and do not doubt they've finally reached this point. Finally. They should have long ago. But if the faculty honestly want to try something new and hold a truly candid discussion, it should be organized by someone - anyone - other than McClure's apologist and bully-in-chief, Beez Schell. It's always the same moderators, always the same mock theater, always the same predetermined "anticipated outcomes" (to quote the invitation). How about some fresh faculty voices? Or better yet, perhaps staff should facilitate their conversation. Faculty might learn a thing or two about collegiality.
February 10, 2017 at 1:03pm
Based on first-hand knowledge, I can assure you that Dr. Gilmer did not "resign" because of Watching Adams. That is the kind of incredulous cop-out that keeps people from critically thinking about what is really wrong with ASU.
February 10, 2017 at 12:37pm
"‪11:57am‬", you made me smile. Or perhaps guffaw. How, pray, are Elison and Ledonne "responsible" for Gilmer's departure? At least back up your emotional outbursts with some semblance of rationalization. How else could anyone take you seriously?
February 10, 2017 at 12:06pm
Re: feel sorry for Elison... That's not karma. That's retaliation by individuals who can't handle the truth.

Jeff will be vindicated.
February 10, 2017 at 11:57am
Elison, Ledonne, and the other trolls behind this site are really the ones responsible for Dr. Gilmer's departure, although they will never admit it.
February 10, 2017 at 11:53am
Commenter "Feb 10 at 10:32am" perfectly articulates the intimidation heaped upon anyone who has a point of view that does not suit McClure and her acolytes. It proves the claim first made nearly two years ago that freedom of speech is dead at ASU, and that those who have the temerity to speak out are soundly trounced. 

Should - or perhaps when - ASU finds itself entangled in another law suit, this commenter's contribution is perfect proof of malice and vengeance by administrators, and confirms other testimony that most employees are too fearful to speak out.

Only the morally strong and personally resilient, like Elison, have the willingness to speak out. Even his enemies should toast his courage.
February 10, 2017 at 11:46am
"One has to almost feel sorry for Elison." Awww, so sweet of you. Don't bust a gut straining to find empathy. I don't feel sorry for myself, so you don't need to. In the grand scheme of things, these are pretty manageable issues, mostly first-world problems. 

The promotion process isn't over yet. The censure "hearing" was a Kangaroo Court, set up to be an ambush, which I did not attend due to having the flu and not having been told about it. Nor was it on the agenda. Who puts someone on trial without telling them and then holds the trial when the defendant isn't there to speak for himself? You can listen to the senate recording if you really want an answer. (Hint: Ed Crowther and Zena Buser) I won't miss Senate. There's a reason they call it service.

I won't comment on my marriage, just as you should not have.

Life is good!

- Jeff Elison
February 10, 2017 at 11:31am
Regarding February 10, 2017 at 10:32am: Wow. Good luck with that collegial chat, faculty. You need it.
February 10, 2017 at 10:32am
One has to almost feel sorry for Elison. In a period of a couple of months, he is denied promotion, censured by the Faculty Senate, removed as the Psychology representative to the Senate, is experiencing some serious marital discord, and is forced to bunk with Pipitone. When karma comes a visiting, it is harsh and brutal. Bad times.
February 10, 2017 at 8:05am
"Does anyone really think this event will prove anything other than a highly structured, artificially engineered attempt to ... ? "

I hope so. I honestly believe Beez and others feel we've reached a point where we need to try something new. From what I know, this meeting will be anything but highly structured. How artificial it is will depend on people's willingness to listen to each other and speak up honestly.

I agree 100% that the state of ASU affects everyone. I seriously hope staff will hold a similar meeting.

- Jeff Elison
February 10, 2017 at 8:04am
Re: February 9 at 9:03pm, BRAVO! Standing ovation for an outstanding observation! Thank you for articulating what I was too pissed to put into words!

Yes inclusiveness is for the few at Adams State. Perfect example? Carol Murphy is no longer "faculty". She retired from that role and is now an administrator. Yet her highness is one of those calling the "faculty only" meeting. Just astounding!

Way to continue the divisiveness. After all we lowly administrators and staff couldn't possibly have any skin in the game. We couldn't possibly have any ideas to save this institution. Nope leave that to the elite PhDs. After all, NONE of them are responsible for the HLC mess!
February 9, 2017 at 9:03pm
Regarding today’s disaster of an ABM invitation and "disinvitation" – oh, where to start? 

1. The Invitation:
In this short message, the word “colleagues” appears twice, along with “collegial” tossed in for good measure. The word faculty appears three times, including the lovely, exclusionary statement that “This gathering will be for faculty only”. 

Have faculty cornered the market on being “collegial colleagues”? Does Beez the Bully really think she is in ANY position to lead campus discussions on “connecting as colleagues”? Does anyone really think this event will prove anything other than a highly structured, artificially engineered attempt to shore up the rapidly crumbling Trumpesque Age of McClure? ASU has put on these sham shows before. I recall one in 2014, led by Novotny with another Novotny on the “panel”. 

Principled faculty can vote their distaste for this desperate 11th hour maneuver by McClure’s cronies by not showing up. Just don’t go. 

2. The Disinvitation
And then the glorious kick in the gut:
“If you received a faculty invitation, and you are not faculty, we just have to blame the abm system.”

Oh, so it wasn’t their fault. It was campus technology. I suppose they also blame the glaring typo in the original invitation (“We also invite ghe group”) to technology as well? They also couldn’t bother taking time to capitalize the acronym ABM. Such care taken with their dissing, dismissive disinvitation to staff. 

The staff disinvitation continues:
“Sorry for the confusion this may have caused. All faculty are meeting as a result of the recent resignation by the VP for Academic Affairs, which most directly impacts the teaching faculty. The primary responsibility for curriculum is held by full time faculty and the VPAA.”

Oh, really! Staff, who are at will employees with no tenure protections, who have the most to lose by our rapidly unfolding disaster, are the ones "most directly impacted" by the disaster that is ASU. Administration is so selective in their determination of what concerns whom and when. Margo and others have repeatedly told us that recruitment, retention, and getting off probation are EVERYONE’s responsibility. The resignation of the VPAA is directly tied to these critical issues of survival, so staff are directly impacted, even more so than faculty. This elitist, exclusionary, entitled attitude is a major contributor to the death of this campus. The Titanic is sinking, and yet they’re still concerned about keeping the 4th class passengers below decks and clueless. 

It cracks me up that those who trumpet most about inclusivity, transparency, and communication are the very worst offenders. This campus is rotten to the core. I’m with the other recent commentators: CSU-Alamosa. Toss out the lot of them.
February 9, 2017 at 2:10pm
It seems like people posting here are very upset. But what are we doing about it? Given that ASU is a public institution, there is a degree of shared ownership and responsibility in its success or failure. If you believe the institution is in serious trouble, consider reaching out to some or all of these organizations. You may do so anonymously, as you would here.

Colorado Governor's Office
Colorado Department of Higher Education
Higher Learning Commission: Complaints Against an Affiliated Institution
Higher Learning Commission: Third-Party Comment on an Upcoming Visit
US Department of Education - Title V
February 9, 2017 at 11:44am
As far as supervisors stepping up goes, I agree but at times they have been unjustly criticized for just asking people to do their jobs. Let's face it, supervisors aren't there to be somebody's moral or ethical barometer either. These people abuse their time in and out of work due to their own lack of a moral compass and a lot of people clamoring for supervisors to step up and crack down on so and so... Do they really want that? Most of those who cry loudest are doing the same thing so if the other person gets "cracked down on" then that other person is going to have to let go of their cozy life too. Some people are their own supervisor and they give themselves plenty of liberties and only run to their supervisor to complain about someone else.
February 9, 2017 at 10:02am
Damn, who's left at Adams? Goodbye Adams College, you are a piece of garbage forcing out Dr. Gilmer. And the rest of us who haven't been forced out will be soon and very soon. Those dirty wicked bastards and their firing squad Crowther, McClure, Doell, Novotny, will get what's coming to them... wickedness begets wickedness. They all have a special place in hell!

Pathetic Adams College...more like Adams State Middle School. Not a real college.
February 9, 2017 at 9:01am
In regards to the abusers of flex time; they are everywhere. One problem with Richardson Hall being the main focus of all the goings on is that it takes the focus off other people in other buildings who are constantly missing and the list of reasons is endless. Many times they find the furthest places (out of Alamosa) when it comes to appointments and their excuse is the quality of service is better. As far as the ones who. "stay in their office"? Don't be fooled.
February 8, 2017 at 4:55pm
Since he is a poet, maybe Dr. Gilmer's resignation letter should be this poem - a variation on the original by anti-Nazi theologian, Martin Niemöller:

First they came for the non-employees, and I did not speak out
Because I was an employee.

Then they came for the staff, and I did not speak out
Because I was a faculty member.

Then they came for adjunct instructors, and I did not speak out
Because I was a tenured professor.

Then they came for the tenured professors, and I did not speak out
Because I was a senior administrator.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak.
February 8, 2017 at 1:42pm
Isn't it stealing money when someone abuses their flex time? Isn't it also wrong to be gone from the office and not make note of time away on time sheets, which is a way to steal money? I see this as a huge problem on this campus that many abuse on a regular basis. People who are constantly away from their office and doing personal business while on the clock. It doesn't take much to see this. Just walk around campus and you will see how many people are "busy" instead of being in their offices. No wonder why so much goes undone here. Some of the biggest violators are people in the Library and Richardson Hall, who are frequently gone (mostly to run personal errands). Supervisors need to step up and stop letting people get away with this!
February 8, 2017 at 9:09am
I like the sound of "CSU-Alamosa." That was a proposal a number of years ago; however, I don't think CSU wanted us under their umbrella.
February 8, 2017 at 8:55am
While we're at it look into all the staff that abuses flex time (all while complaining about how others do it and not look at themselves) and spend time during work hours working on their degree instead of doing their job. That's been one of the biggest issues that has undermined ASU and goes unnoticed. Flex time is there for a good reason but it's abused and rarely ever made up.
February 8, 2017 at 7:39am
Based on the "goodbye Dr. Gilmer" comment, I'm guessing some people see his "resignation" as a win. It's not. It's not a win for ASU, not a win for students, not a win for faculty, not a win for higher education. And it's certainly not a win for administration. President McClure's odd email with its even odder attachment paint a pretty clear picture. Chris Gilmer was forced out by the McClure-Doell-Crowther Bully Squad. They couldn't work with him, so we all suffer. No one is safe. I've never heard so much anti-administration buzz on campus before.
February 7, 2017 at 10:40pm
Fire all in administration, including department chairs. Carefully review each faculty member. ASU is closed and control given over to Colorado State University. CSU will run what was ASU. They will supervise everything, put their people in place, and in five years the institution will have a better reputation as a real university than it has ever had. Do it.
Colorado State University-Alamosa.
February 7, 2017 at 6:15pm
Answer: HELL NO!!!!

You are spot on regarding language and propaganda. I expect Margo to be named "interim" soon. This is complete bullshit! For all of you McClure supporters, you'd better get your CVs in order. We will all be looking for jobs soon!
February 7, 2017 at 11:06am
Question: Does anyone really believe Dr. Gilmer wrote his "statement" of his original ideas? Or that he wrote it at all? 

Answer: The entire text is structured as a pro-administration propaganda document, praising Dr. McClure, shaming Watching Adams (like that had anything to do with the HLC or his resignation), and cheering on "positivity" even as he resigns "effective immediately." It isn't even written with any of the obvious gift for language that Dr. Gilmer has but certainly smacks of the trite, juvenile, simplistic thinking of B. Jeffries, er... Beverlee McClure!

More total and utter nonsense from the ASU administration. Hopefully some of the smart folks left at Adams can see through such a thin veneer of self-promotion from an out-of-control, vindictive university president. It's the written equivalent of the fiddle solo played at the fall of the Roman Empire.

Sincerely, the "Internet mob"
February 7, 2017 at 8:25am
Dr. Gilmer states the following in his non-resignation letter: “Beginning in November 2016, President Beverlee McClure has been accused of (1) discrimination against protected groups and at-risk populations, (2) creating hostile work environments, (3) retaliating against those she did not like, and (4) harboring homophobic tendencies. Concerns President McClure and I might have had about each other resulted from misunderstanding and miscommunication. Based on fuller understanding and better communication between us, I do not make these accusations against her.”

That’s quite a list of non-accusations. By the issuance of this non-resignation letter and the sudden departure and resignation, one can get the feeling that something is rotten in the state Denmark, to quote the Bard. Was Chris paid off with ASU dollars that it can’t afford to spend in order to avoid yet another losing legal battle? 

Why is there not an actual letter of resignation instead of an odd letter full of non-accusations with a “roll up your sleeves and join us in fixing our problems” attitude? 

There is no hint of resignation in that statement. If Dr. Gilmer was abruptly ousted, as is in keeping with the fine tradition of ASU then we could possibly project that this list of non-accusations can become the basis of yet another lawsuit. If there is an open call for character witnesses against Beverlee in such a suit, she has an ever-growing collection of joiners to that witness roster.

But hey, look on the “bright side”, Maggie gets to have her dreams come true. Bev’s gal pal, (no collusion or nepotism here) Margot gets to be VPAA for more than a day. YAY!!! Aren’t you all pleased as punch now! I’m sure she will do a fine job as usual in preparing the institution for the HLC review. AND remember, if you’re in good with the RIGHT crowd, your dreams may come true too!

Something else to wonder about, now that Bev’s voodoo hex has succeeded in ousting yet another foe, let’s see if she continues her “native American” tradition of placing mirrors in here windows affixed on her intended target’s residence.
February 6, 2017 at 8:17pm
Chris Gilmer: one of just many - far too many - forced out by a toxic administration. When does it end?

Given that Gilmer's statement is clearly not a resignation, why does McClure explicitly link it as such in her announcement? She is such a rank amateur. Amateur! Her statement, despite its terse, side eyes "compliment", will only lead to rampant speculation across campus and the valley. Bev, you are an utter fraud and fake, head to toe. You expose yourself more and more everyday. You may feel momentarily triumphant in driving yet another decent employee into exile, but just look in one of your mirrors if you dare - your own special day fast approaches.
February 6, 2017 at 7:41pm
Gilmer's letter certainly was not a resignation letter. Dated Saturday, it sounds like he was still hoping for the best for ASU and to continue working here. What happened on Sunday? 

The fact that McClure sent the link in her very brief announcement just goes to show she doesn't understand people, marketing, or business. It raises far more questions than it answers.

Chris Gilmer: forced out by a toxic administration.
February 6, 2017 at 6:10pm
Who needs to be competent when you have mirrors? I guess they worked. They drove away one of the very few decent administrators we've had in years. Good guys: zero; Evil: the count just keeps growing.

Our chances with HLC just dropped like a rock.
February 6, 2017 at 4:26pm
Do any citizens, taxpayers, parents, care about the corruption at Adams? Does the public care about how an institution is being turned into the laughing school in Colorado? Its reputation is being destroyed. Graduates with degrees will not be respected. New faculty will have no respect for a weak pathetic faculty, many with phony doctorates bought from for-profit Internet "universities." Does the public care at all how their money is being stolen by greedy, selfish, corrupt individuals like Crowther, and everybody in the business school?

Do people care that the institution is being run by an incompetent, mean-spirited, witch?
February 6, 2017 at 2:17pm
Re: "his office is empty. She won." God help us all!
February 6, 2017 at 1:29pm
February 6, 2017 at 9:16am - HAAHAAA... This is sort of like Crowther teaching a course on non-bullying, or Centeno speaking on "Don't claim to be a victim."
February 6, 2017 at 9:49am
His office is empty! She won. What a HUGE loss to ASU.
February 6, 2017 at 9:16am
Zena Buser is recruiting for a workshop on principle based ethics? With opening remarks by President McClure? This must be a comedy show. It should be hilarious!
February 4, 2017 at 8:27am
Goodbye President McClure.
February 3, 2017 at 10:19pm
"Goodbye Dr. Gilmer." Interesting comment. In Bev we trust. She is sure to save ASU from HLC and our financial straits with all her talents.

Secret meeting on Monday with Faculty Senate and Chairs Council, no agenda, called by Crowther on behalf of President McClure. Faculty and staff not notified. Nothing unusual there. Faculty, staff, and students go back to sleep. Those who care about ASU will be eliminated.
February 3, 2017 at 7:37pm
Goodbye Dr. Gilmer.
February 3, 2017 at 4:10pm
Quite the contrary, it is President McClure who has been undercutting Vice President Gilmer. Recall that he arrived on campus and quickly took initiative to determine what was wrong with Extended Studies and set about implementing those recommendations by the Mathieu report. But as her usual narcissism dictates, McClure has been impeding any real change and keeping Margaret Doell as her reliable puppet to oversee areas she has no clue how to manage or repair. And it will be to everyone's detriment given that ASU is nowhere near ready for the HLC to review these criteria.

All Jeff Elison did, from his private email on his own time, was encourage people to vote in a Watching Adams poll asking for a vote of 'no confidence' in President McClure – something that should have happened long ago. According to the poll, over 60% of respondents still believe she should 'definitely' have a vote of 'no confidence' against her.

Elison is guilty of engaging in popular democracy and for the interests of a better ASU. Only the vindictive elements of this twisted campus cabal would believe otherwise.
February 3, 2017 at 3:45pm
Dr. Elison's unethical acts were directly against the senate, not the faculty or departments. Thus it was proper for senate to discipline him as they did.

His unethical behavior was at the December meeting when his email accusing Dr. Gilmer of undercutting President McClure was read. It was also his email that accused the classified employees of opposing President McClure. (Gilmer and the classified employees both denied their involvement - so either they lied or Ellison lied).

Senate President Crowther covered for Ellison as he read excerpts from the email since it impacted a support resolution they were considering. Only he and Elison knew who wrote it. Elison, the coward he is stayed silent and let his fellow senators grapple with confusion. He had a moral and ethical duty as the one who knew the truth to speak up. He chose not to, and the senate in January acted properly.

Without Ben Waddell to do his thinking and to hold his hand one wonders if Ellison has the stones to continue as a senator.
February 3, 2017 at 9:35am
During the meeting, senators requested time to take the resolution back to their departments. Ed and Zena pushed for a vote. A bare majority of senators voted in favor of voting that day, as opposed to taking it back to departments and/or having Jeff present to defend himself. Zena argued for shared governance, just not outside senate. Sorry faculty.
February 3, 2017 at 7:51am
What a bunch of crying babies you all are.

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February 2, 2017 at 8:57pm
Pipitone a toadie? Give me a break. You obviously don't know him. And he didn't get my email. Backen did not receive my email either, so you can leave his name out of the Great ASU Email Scandal.

- Jeff Elison
February 2, 2017 at 6:39pm
February 2, 2017 at 3:40pm---Backen would be a good bet. He is one of Crowther's drug suppliers.
February 2, 2017 at 5:41pm
Zena Buser introduced a senate resolution to reprimand Dr. Elison, but didn't have the decency or professionalism to discuss it with her department. She accused Dr. Elison of not acting the way senators should, but he ran his resolution by his entire department and other faculty. H-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e?
February 2, 2017 at 3:40pm
I am just curious. Who in Elison’s tight social circle “snitched” and turned over the fated e-mail to the powers that be. Probably not Pipitone as he is Elison’s main toadie. My money is on Backen.
February 2, 2017 at 1:06pm
The February 2, 2017 at 11:45am comment makes a number of false assumptions and seems generally confused about what “success” even looks like.

Ed Crowther quite obviously is not fulfilling his core duties as an educator based on his course overloads and the students who have stated he doesn't grade their work or even ensure they pass the Writing Assessment before graduating. Then there's the problem of his vindictive character with regard to other faculty, driving out many good people over the years in order to protect his own ego and financial interests. All of this, of course, at the expense of ASU's students.

The irony is that many at ASU who strive to make positive steps for the university are the first to be bullied, reprimanded, or repressed for doing so. Professors who stand up for academic integrity, librarians who call for fully staffing their services, adjuncts who work long hours without adequate pay and no benefits. There are plenty of hard-working people at ASU who make less, do more, and keep the university held together even as a few people abuse the system and get ASU in major trouble with accreditors.

Does anyone seriously believe those “at the top” at ASU are either lonely or successful? They throw lavish parties for themselves, wave at parades, and speak at fancy dinner events (mostly paid for by Title V funds). But are they successful given ASU's low graduation rate, downgraded credit, plummeting finances and academic probation?

Whoever wrote that comment either isn't paying attention or is being paid to be inattentive.
February 2, 2017 at 11:45am
Since this comment section seems to be all about taking free pot shots, I'll take one. Most of the mush mouthed dimwits posting here seem to caught in a state of arrested development. Right around junior high school. I'm sure Ed Crowther is shaking in his boots right now because his Facebook friends are deserting him! If you expect to get paid or get credit from ASU, you may be expected to work, study or come to class. It's just that simple. Show up. Make a difference. A positive difference. Maybe classes would be even easier if you'd just show up! Maybe your work life would be better if you tried to make a positive step instead of a litigious one. Seems the hardest working people at ASU are ones who get vilified for being so "powerful". The hardest working people at ASU seem to have power simply because they are willing to do some of the work no one else is willing to do. Those working to bring money into the school, to create programs, pay teachers, oh, I don't know - keep the institution open, are the ones you all keep making hurtful and small minded comments about. 

It's lonely at the top. Success makes you enemies. Hiring and firing makes you enemies. None of this is easy work and here at ASU, no good deed goes unpunished. I believe our website author will attest to this. I'd love to see some integrity in this comment section, but if potshots & freebies are what float your boats....have at it! Mob mentality will win.

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